Regret Characters Tier List

[@Brianuuuu]

"Pretty much everyone who has Ayato would refund him if possible" Never before have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with

[@bai_reina]

YES 😭

[@_mako]

naur, he's irreplaceable in my husbando only quickbloom teams with alhaitham and especially cyno 😭 4pc deepwood with r5 sapwood goes crazy

[@ryneis]

sad but true

[@tahugumball]

Yes my well build ayato only do 9k-12k per slash with 68/200 crit & 2k atk lol

[@owowonn]

i would in a heartbeat if he wasn't just so hot and fine 😭

[@JosepiThe13th]

5:58 "Double Hydro died in Sumeru" WHAT????!!!! What drugs is that chatter on???!!!!! Sumeru is where Double Hydro was pushed into the meta as a mainstay staple 😂😂😂 3.0 is when Hydro Resonance was changed from an Incoming Healing Bonus increase (🤢) to the chad Max HP increase that it is today. That patch solidified Double Hydro as Hu Tao's best team because it buffed her damage and Yelan's damage and made Zhongli/Thoma's shield tankier. Then Hyperbloom, whose best team is Double Hydro. And, or course, Nilou Bloom, where having 2 Hydros is what allows Nilou to even hit the max HP threshold for her Bloom damage boost. Litetally the worst take I've ever seen from a chatter holy...

[@bonk8311]

also in 4.0 it got revived with furina being added to the game, with furina/yelan being broken, especially if u slap a jean or xianyun in there. diluc plunge, hu tao plunge, new raiden carry team, monohydro....

[@Gnurklesquimp2]

Just benefit of the doubt, but perhaps they meant it's where it rose and then also by the end of it fell again. Not saying that makes it correct, but at least it's not the exact opposite of reality

[@Nole2701]

Getting Eula in 1.5 and pretty much never using her to this day completely changed my pulling mindset from "pull for waifu" to "pull for waifu IF they are good"

[@miguelangelcosiorangel2617]

I wouldn't say "good" but "fun to play"

[@Nole2701]

@@miguelangelcosiorangel2617 I guess it does come full circle since good characters make it fun. Interesting mechanics are fun but if they're weak I never end up using them. Like Eula's burst is fun to pop but physical is just so bad that I never find myself using her.

[@miguelangelcosiorangel2617]

@@Nole2701 That's a fair point but not necessarily true, my favorite character is Dehya and i play her as a carry a lot despite how weak she is, and i think that even though we play teams for strength sometimes you also like to experiment or play something unorthodox so a character being weak doesn't mean is boring to play in my opinion. Btw nice pfp Durarara is such an underrated anime.

[@davidarenas2500]

So me bestie! I pulled for her when she came out, which ruined my opportunity to get Kaz, and now days i dont even want to touch her, fortunately i got kaz at the start of 5.0! And now i pull for waifu IF good at least or because the character is busted, cuz I want Nahida and she is busted

[@ambatubuh]

I got Eula in 3.8 ... I knew she was bad, but I couldn't resist

[@MikaMooMoouwu]

I am surprised how many people dislike chlorinde. I have so much fun dashing around with her and she carries me really good through all content (c0 r1). On top of that super comfortable to play with the self heal, the amount of number is satisfying and u can do so many reactions with her. Both overload and quicken teams work. I double crowned her and regret nothing.

[@hanshofer9458]

I'm glad. I don't use her in Abyss but she's super fun for chest farming!

[@lucasayabe]

yeah, she was one of the most fun characters i got recently, i started playing her as much as i play Keqing, and sometimes even more, because she has more team options. I never get tired of her animations.

[@wiswc]

She's the most fun character in the game for me

[@wiswc]

​@@hanshofer9458she's perfectly valid for the abyss btw

[@ganyunyuu]

i like her too! very braindead and comfy, i lost to jean on her banner and played her again on IT and i was having so much fun despite IT being so bad. so yeah I'll try to get her down the line for sure

[@lupi3606]

i agree with zaj take on characters who appear less can be better than "main" characters, but i thought neuv, furina, alhaitham or venti for example were consistent and interesting even though they were present through entire archon quest

[@chubbyman2564]

mf used childe for like 2-3 years straight and then would refund it like wtf lmao, put on some respect 🤣

[@k.chajel1770]

What having Neuvillette did to MF lmaao

[@apanaama3703]

I used him for a year and I might consider a refund. The guy hogs and rides on the coattails of 3 supports which I can use seperately in many other teams. Outside of vape, his dendro/electro/cryo reactions are limited since his hydro uptime is limited by his cooldown.

[@kitnal4143]

@@apanaama3703 with Mavuika you will probably find there is more room for Childe to work without hogging the best supports- although tbf you can still run him in quite a few teams but then again I don't min-max my account

[@chubbyman2564]

​@@apanaama3703eh imma be for real here if you use a character for a year to clear the abyss then find a better one as time goes on, you dont deserve a refund because you already got a value out of the character refund should be to a character where you pull day one and never or barely use them at all in any hard content ever since

[@Archflip]

​@@apanaama3703 Yeah, I feel like Childe's entire life has been kind of cope around his how they made his cooldown system. Arlecchino does it so right even with a long cooldown herself because it counts in almost exactly the opposite way. Arle's cooldown starts big but shortens with high field time is the exact opposite of Childe's which starts manageable but gets longer with field time.

[@dareijos4282]

Zajef's chat is always so cringe. Everyone can like and dislike whoever they want, but to say that Navia has no personality is really one of the worst takes of all time. Yes, she is the "nice girl" archetype, but being an archetype doesn't constitute a lack of personality. You don't need to be edgy to have personality, which can also be shown through actions, which was done with Navia throughout the whole story where she acted based on her own motivation and interests, rather than just to move the story forward. Zajef finds her personality boring, probably because she still is just a "good" and "nice" character, which is okay as it doesn't appeal to everyone. However, she was well written and has more personality than 95% of characters in this game.

[@PenguinsAreColdish]

all genshin chatters are cringe for the most part

[@donpetronio3166]

I guess they prefer standard western ugly girlboss characters with rotten personalities, so Navia being nice girl is offensive to them

[@chandler5637]

She still has a superficial personality

[@vorpal1174]

@@donpetronio3166 zaj explained in detail what he doesn't like about navia, she's a mob boss with no goons, i suppose even plain english is too hard to understand for someone like you

[@Deep_Side_Sleep]

Mate the fact that you are trying to defend a genshin character for being well writen just exposes that you either are a child or you only anime or both

[@Rebel4ebel]

To this day Eula is my favourite character in genshin impact in terms of gameplay I have not used her in abyss since sumeru

[@schmiggidy]

LOL I feel ya! Hardly ever use her anymore, but there'll ALWAYS be a soft spot in my heart for Eula ... primarily because she's so fureakin' hot.

[@exJumple]

Same. Loving her kit and character and huge pp numbers. Sadly no abyss cycle is sutiable for her now

[@Fruchti]

Same for me with Ayaka. I couldnt imagine my life without her. Omegawhaled when she came put for c4+ Sig, farmed artifacts for no one as much as her etc. etc. But Abyss becoming Anti Cryo and especially Anti Freeze really makes her not fun to play in there. Not to mention Floor 12 having many Bosses and even more frustratingly MULTI WAVE SPAWNS, AH I HATE THEM, PLEASE MIHOYO, STOP. Playing Ayaka against Multi Wave content is literal hell. Yeah haha, there goes half your ult into nothingness, nothing you can do about it cuz we spawn enemies on the other side of the chamber.

[@Axterix13]

Yeah, Eula remains my waifu, but the moment I got Dehya, Dehya became my main and I stopped using Eula in the Abyss. Dehya just clears content much easier.

[@alexprus7953]

​@@Fruchtithe cycles with 4 waves on one chamber were hell 💀

[@Levandrys]

Zajef when he sees a ugly ass character that has a somewhat weird kit 🥵

[@ced4775]

But dehya's a baddiee😢

[@GreenHellTube]

He's gonna love Chaska, that's for sure.

[@pyronado4320]

Now list some characters that fit this criteria and you'll have 500 replies by tomorrow

[@kingdoom5022]

​@@GreenHellTube Oh no , chasca gonna be mid isn't she

[@mandom5714]

​@@SHAW_777no way his opinion is biased?

[@ayzeee9855]

I haven't used my Shenhe or Eula in almost years. All they do is sit on the bench and look hot, and honestly i couldn't ask for more out of them

[@kitnal4143]

it is a very important job tbf, sometimes I let my Shenhe out of the basement for a bit of overworld then back to the abyss she goes

[@hallyuniverse]

dw they'll have their time to shine again in Snezhnaya (hopefully)

[@Nickulator]

I am currently building and testing an on-field dps Shenhe with Chongyun, Xiangling and a flex slot. Is it good and Abyss worthy? Lol no. Is it fun to play and a good excuse to play Shenhe more? Hell yea. Swap Xiangling for Dehya or Furina and put in Xianyun for a Shenhe plunge team! 😄

[@mormegil84]

Trophy wives.

[@kitnal4143]

@Nickulator it's probably abyss worthy *enough* just maybe swap to something big for the final floor

[@SleepyKurisu]

Commenting again to say that I've never really thought about it until now that the more a character shows up in the story the less interesting they can get Because Genshin does do this specifically with filler events, they just add already good characters into them then give them very cringe dialogue and it just leaves a bad impression behind

[@tasha2749]

Its me with shenhe, her first appearance on an archon quest is such a cool badass girl with a dark vibe surrounding her, like she is a human raised by adeptus with uncontrollable desire and emotion getting hold by a singgle string constantly having nightmares learning about human live through yunjin and the trveler, and then she shows up again in the last lantern rite and just doing something boring like girl!!!!!, cmon she becomes a gooner bait for people to purchase her skin

[@InmateOmighty]

This is literally Itto, Kirara, Klee, and Fischl

[@SleepyKurisu]

@@tasha2749 Shenhe is a good pick and just new liyue characters during lantern rite in general it feels like

[@SleepyKurisu]

@@InmateOmighty I'm not sure who it would be for me right now I can only think of Scaramouche in the 4.8 event probably all of those characters actually

[@hxnniboi]

hu tao and xinyan for example were cooler for me before all those filler events

[@TheTranquilMadness]

I don't agree with all of his regret characters but I wholly agree with his opinion about Arlecchino. He is in fact the only CC I've seen discuss how thoroughly her interesting traits and menace were nerfed in her story quest, so big respect.

[@Axterix13]

Not to mention how badly that quest was against Traveler's character as well. A hero would never hang out at that camp.

[@TheTranquilMadness]

@@Axterix13 I could see them going as a favor to Lyney or Lynette, but probably not staying, *especially* during the time they thought Arlecchino had murdered a child. Traveler's inconsistency on how they interact with the Fatui doesn't frustrate me as much as it does some other people, but it DOES frustrate me to some extent. I think it would have been very easy to fix by having them be a little more cold and distant around Childe in all their interactions in the Inazuma era, so that missable interactions like Traveler-Childe-Yoimiya wouldn't be doing so much work to remind everyone that the Traveler doesn't like the Fatui.

[@infrnlmssh9719]

Jokes on you. Shatbedo is getting a buff.

[@infrnlmssh9719]

@@Hakai11X Shatter is getting the Hyperbloom treatment.

[@ISMythix]

​@@infrnlmssh9719 kind of a stretch

[@infrnlmssh9719]

@@ISMythix I'm not speculating. Current leaks say that Shatter's damage will be increased to match Hyperbloom.

[@whippedforagroupcalleddrea5169]

​@@infrnlmssh9719leaks are speculations dude, they're not confirmed. But if being delusional makes you sleep at night, then go on...

[@infrnlmssh9719]

@@whippedforagroupcalleddrea5169 Not from next game version, they ain't. They coming in 5.2. Though subject to change, those have been incredibly reliable. The delusional ones are the ones tryna tell me things are wrong while having less overall information than one does.

[@Emilio_Valadez]

Wanderer is a character you didn't know you needed until you actually got him. I cant imagine myself doing exploration without him

[@caprichaos]

Literally I have Xilonen, Kinich, C1 Xianyun and none of them come even close to how great Scara is in exploration. It's a night and day difference and as someone who 100% every region I can't imagine not having him. In all fairness playing him without Zhongli is a MISERABLE experience lol

[@cleod7439]

My wanderer that i only use on es every 3 patches refuse

[@trendmadegamer8725]

Chasca powercpreet him thi

[@PiousMoltar]

Every time I play Wanderer in a trial or event I find his flying mechanic incredibly clunky and awkward and doesn't last long enough. Maybe I'd get the hang of it if I actually had him but I have no intention to pull him.

[@ISMythix]

​@@trendmadegamer8725outside of natlan they damn near have the same movement tho but chasca is a tiny bit better

[@MuhaamadAreeb]

6:16 that is just the copest thing. Yelan furina is objectively so much better than xingqiu furina because furina means you automatically have healing This xingqiu bias kills me. Because i dont even have yelan and i still almost never use xingqiu. Not only does he manage to find reasons to play xingqiu where you dont even need high hydro app or defensive utility. He manages to phase yelan out of her optimal teams aswell And ir you're not giving yelan a damaging weapon like stringless for her double hydro teams and adjusting her ER. Then OBVIOUSLY shes not gonna do enoygh damage to feel better than xingqiu

[@whats_goody_gang]

xingqiu cope is unreal

[@samuelchensantoso9677]

I unfortunately could never related of regretting a character, the biggest reason is I only get Who I want anyway, but I can understand why people do regret Their pulls sometimes

[@mickysaif]

yeah as f2p i never regretted anyone, even my ayaka who has been benched for two years i don't regret because I like her design and she carried me a lot back then

[@SleepyKurisu]

Honestly W achievement for you bro, not many people can resist the urge to pull on certain characters

[@febrizey]

I regret Nilou, her restriction is stupid and I never play her. Everytime I have an inkling to play her I go to put kazuha on her team...realize you cant do that and just take her off entirely.

[@Lichmassacre]

I also can't relate, as someone who constantly plans out my pulls even when I regularly spend. Pulling all the characters I want because of their story/character in game and then pushing them to be as strong as possible. I knew Dehya would be shit and I still pulled not only her C1 but her weapon too. Can't feel regret if I already know who I'll like.

[@qing52]

same, I have 12 limited 5 stars after playing for 2 years and I would get every single of them again if I started playing today. The only regrets I have are Homa and The Great Magic, which I got trying to get Aqua and lost both times, never getting Aqua for my Childe.

[@Gonshaaa]

My only regret is klee, i got her cause of my wish addiction back in 1.5, one day before kazuha's release, cause of that i had to wait a long ass time for his rerun

[@KategariYami]

Clorinde in Omega Regret is why I don't strictly adhere to only N3E with her. You only do that, you may find her boring. You treat her like a gun character who can move around a lot, you may have a TONNE of fun. Silver is the one with glasses? Brother they BOTH have glasses!

[@Ottobon]

i agree with that i just use it for movement as need be roughly around 3. It would be cooler with a variable but she is still one of my favorites. Zajef just always has and always will hate rapid-NAs, personally i blame it on some trauma he had playing league or something who knows

[@SleepyKurisu]

Zajeff has always had a pretty interesting 5 star character roster, he has some characters I wouldn't expect a numbers tester to have and some that I would but I'm interested in what other peeps in the comments here would want to pull for still or regrets pulling for me I still really want Childe and Wriothesley and I'd 100% want to get rid of my Eula and Itto Dang I guess I'm part of the 1% who have Ayato and wouldn't refund him for anything, I just like his design and play style despite it being not too strong. The skill is just very satisfying to me.

[@hanshofer9458]

Wouldn't refund Ayato, his skill is so cool. Same for Childe, he is the coolest. Would never refund my Itto, carried me through much endgame. Glad I skipped Eula, Wriothesley, Cyno, Klee

[@SleepyKurisu]

@@hanshofer9458 Wriothesley skip is a interesting one, did you skip him for another character or already own Ayaka? Also Ayato keep is so valid for me I'd refund my Itto purely because I've been trying to build a mono Geo team ever since I pulled him but just never get around to giving it my full focus

[@hanshofer9458]

@@SleepyKurisu Yes, i had Ayaka already. Wriothesley is one of those characters I LOVED in the story but his kit looked so underwhelming that i knew i wouldn't have fun playing him.

[@SleepyKurisu]

@@hanshofer9458 that's completely fair, Cryo is just my favorite element and it hasn't really put out a character I like play style wise other then Wriothesley and I wasn't able to get him on his only banner so I just use my Ganyu whenever I absolutely need a cryo dps

[@gingervald8601]

@@SleepyKurisu for regrets Lyney and Alhaitham. After I got Arlecchino I was doing single pulls to try to get Xiangling c4 and got him 3 wishes in. Should've just waited for the shop (at least I didn't lose much) Alhaitham I got recently after I started cause a friend recommended him. But I felt weird using characters I didn't know, and had no idea where the Wenut was. By the time I got to the Sumeru desert I felt fine with DMC/Collei for hyperbloom and Tighnari for spread, and cringed at the idea of farming the Wenut. Now I have Nahida and don't feel any need to build him.

[@diogoschneider2479]

C2 Dehya is probably one of my favorite characters for now because I love using her as pyro app and reaction trigger. (It's amazing for kinnich and Emilie)

[@internetghost469]

SAME! And not to mention the Interruption RES, so my characters aren’t getting tossed around like a basketball while I’m setting up their abilities.

[@diogoschneider2479]

@@internetghost469 yeah, it helps so much, specially with Kinnich

[@bjornnilsson2941]

I'm getting flashbacks to Zajef trying to play burgeon Dehya against a ruin guard and the pyro proc happening to high to hit the seed 😂 that said the increased time of interruption resist would be nice to have. I'm just 1 lost 50/50 away so maybe it will happen lol.

[@r.e.z9428]

She keeps things challenging, I finally got her C6 not to long ago. By far my favorite unit in the game.

[@ToeKat922]

No hate towards emilie va but i really hate how "mika" the voice is, i felt she would be a lot more dignified kinda like yelan, she also seems too mature for that voice

[@vic123]

The only character I've ever fully regretted was Albedo. That guy simply does not function. The flower does not work. If a boss looks at it, it breaks. If it spawns too close to a boss, it breaks. If you stand near it by accident, you lose a chunk of time. Albedo is just straight up dysfunctional. I've got a bunch of other characters that I never use, but I don't regret them bc I got my 10 mins of fun with them. But Albedo is a nonstop source of frustration. Unfortunate bc him as a character is neat, but his kit is so badly designed

[@AzureDrag0n1]

His burst not scaling with defense was a boneheaded design decisions. His flower breaking is something I can work around and I have even taken advantage of his elevator in combat on purpose. Especially with really tall or flying enemies. He also has one of the better characterizations in the game.

[@bobjones2959]

Yeah he's really weirdly designed. The split scaling on his burst/skill, the flower being such a core part of his kit and breaking so easily, and of course he has cons that focus on plunge damage for some reason. You can really tell he was designed during a time when they had no idea how to balance their characters. They really thought people would actually use the elevator for plunge damage but then they put a timer on endgame content :/ All that aside, what really annoyed me was that instead of going back and fixing all the issues with him, they just gave Chiori his kit but without the issues. Sure her skill can't snapshot and has a smaller radius, and sure she can't buff EM, but in practice she ends up being better than him like 95% of the time. It's the only case a direct powercreep I think this game has. I guess they were afraid of weird issues with bosses getting stuck on or around geo constructs, but man does it feel unnecessary that they break so easily. And not to mention his model was one of the ones that were pointed out for being noticeably weird-looking. Albedo fans really got shafted lol I don't necessarily "regret" getting him, I wish Hoyo would just fix his issues.

[@Axterix13]

He's very much an early game design, before the designers learned their lessons. Heck, Albedo and Xinyan are the ones that taught the lesson about that particular aspect of design. Early on, he was useful as a "4th slot" character, a least bad option you could drop into almost any team as a 4th member. But these days, we have many more character choices, so there's always a good option, and therefore, no need for a least bad one.

[@sockseater]

i don't tend to regret characters but i have regrets of primos spent if that makes any sense. ayato and kinich took me to pity twice and that makes me feel like i wasted resources and i'm going to expect more of them whereas i won my 50/50 on klee and wanderer back to back so they can just sit and look pretty and i don't have any regrets. they were also characters that i pulled out of boredom. i haven't even built klee properly, just ran her with nahida and burned overworld enemies for fun and the lore accurate klee experience

[@hannie798]

I pulled for albedo in 1.2 because i didn't know traveler could resonate with statues and I needed him to get some geoculi. 😭

[@Ottobon]

kek

[@TheJH1015]

I would never refund Ayato. He's still an incredibly reliable Hydro driver for my account especially in Bloom-related teams. Having near-permanent Hydro application is just really nice to have in various situations. If I want to play Nilou bloom or Hyperbloom, Ayato is right there and doing a damn good job.

[@amman9041]

I would sit and listen to Zajef saying poggies for 8hours straight

[@kyutoanfani]

get some help

[@FreneticPotato]

He looks like someone who would unironically say Skibidi

[@THESocialJusticeWarrior]

He doesn't have a waifu collector bone in his body.

[@heinzkohl7739]

He doesn't have a no life creep bone in his body yes. How tragic.

[@chad5115]

​@@heinzkohl7739so dramatic lmao, is it so bad to want to have pretty women on your account?

[@baluttery]

@@chad5115not really but considering the average genshin player, yep

[@leiplays-wf7ez]

fr and I honestly think that's interesting. I'm a gooner and so are most of my friends, we love hot women we pull for hot women. it's refreshing to see someone like Jef who's like also a guy like me but immune to all of the worldy desires for anime characters 😆

[@THESocialJusticeWarrior]

UNLESS his waifu is Alro and he is staying true to her by collecting no other waifus. Agree?

[@tarakan_io]

Video title is misleading, because there is a difference between "I reget pulling for this character" and "I will refund it now if I could". Like for example Hutao, Ayaka, Raiden all benched at this moment, but they were the goats when they were released. Hutao didn't become weaker (unlike freeze teams, Snejnaya will make it great again Copium), it's just new characters more fun and convinient to use.

[@ruxbon]

is it misleading when more than half of the video is "do I regret getting this character? yes or no" with how much of a yes or a no it is for him?

[@tarakan_io]

@@ruxbon Only one tier is "omega regret" and it has 2 characters...

[@ruxbon]

@@tarakan_ioyour point being...? even if there were no characters in that tier, it wouldn't change the fact that he ranked how much he regrets his characters. are you unfamiliar with tier lists?

[@StanTheWoz]

As a Navia main, I am very happy Zajef does not work for hoyo

[@Zer0Bunny4]

man sees a likeable and nice character and immediately says no

[@lostblueboy]

honestly I am at a point of collector, so i dont regret anyone. Sure I dont use klee ever, but i like to bust her out every summer and explore with her and just have fun. Plus eventually alice will release and i want them to be together. Plus genshin has like 80 characters, half of which are 5 stars. If u think i can play all of them, thats absolute insanity so I dont let it get to me that I dont play x character often.

[@SpookaySpctr]

Honestly same, I use the characters I own while doing their quests etc. because it feels more immersive

[@amitchowdhary2935]

Its ironic how zajef is a xingqui salesman and a hu tao hater at the same time

[@lgr28]

I have a fully built Ayaka, Alhaitham, Xianyun and Navia whom I never use at all and Mualani is soon going to be part of that team. Increasingly finding that mid dps characters and godly supports are the most satisfying to build and play because you feel a sense of accomplishment.

[@SleepyKurisu]

Mid Dps's actually make exploration more fun too because the combat actually feels like combat with everything not getting one shot

[@edimasv4581]

Then you should stay play ayaka she's mid.

[@tasha2749]

​@@SleepyKurisuMe with wanderer, the fact that you just press e and spam na without thinking and actually somewhat struggle a bit because i dont use support like faruzan or bennet on wanderer exploration team, playing wanderer kinich furina zhongli in overworld without any synergy whatsoever just for the sake of fast travel is super fun kekw

[@anegg1464]

Xianyun is great at doing that though, I’ve been having fun using her with Xilonen. But yeah I get what you mean, for me the only one I play is Alhaitham Furina QB just because its probably my fastest team, and if I had Navia probably would play her a lot too cus shes cool. A carry is only worth what you think of them, shown no clearer than with Ayaka.

[@planetary-rendez-vous]

I'm looking forward to building my dps Faruzan but I'm stuck in IT hell

[@soroushkowsarian3364]

Has zaj reacted to the Elemental base Multiplier changes yet ???

[@gazakana]

he actually saw it on twitter yesterday (just to talk about shatter albedo lmao), not sure if he mentions something on stream tho

[@heavenlyfebruary]

c6 shenhe and wriothesley is the dream combo

[@Stormcrosser]

14:29 bro literally she and Wanderer are the most funniest GPS is because they move and you have to click other buttons, then attacking the enemy only

[@moony1552]

As soon as I saw where Lyney was, I knew where Ganyu will be😂 You either love charge bows or hate them, no in between. For me, there is no greater joy than to hit a weak point of an enemy.

[@FischlInsultsMePls]

I will never regret getting any electro unit, since I always use all of them at least one every Abyss in an aggravate team with Fischl

[@anxietyimpact]

The first 5 star I got on this account was Eula, I didn't want her at all but I was a noob and didn't fully understand the wish system yet, I didn't know soft pity was a thing. I was in for Beidou constellations. My thought process was, as long as I'm not going all the way to 80 pulls, the chance to get her is abysmal, right? Just one more Beidou cons and I'll stop... she dropped at pull number 70 or something. The following pull gave me my Beidou constellation. Later I lost 50/50 on Kazuha's release because of that. To this day she's still level 20 and I still resent her so much lmao

[@te-jay6058]

I don't agree with his Navia take one bit. I think she was the best written character in Fontaine. She was your partner in Fontaine. And a very good one.

[@NoahSteel-wx8ry]

His thoughts about Zhongli make no sense lol. “If I lost Zhongli from my account, I don’t think I would pull for him again.” *puts in the ‘Would Get Again’ category …* 😅

[@rhythmblack3830]

The only character I regret is Ayaka. Used her sparingly, then got permanently benched. I dont regret Ayato even tho I rarely use him nowadays. Would refund Hutao. Her only saving grace is that I got her c1 early

[@christianmoraes7206]

Yoi and clorinde are two of my biggest mains lol

[@ahumanperson1638]

Yoimiya sucks so it makes sense why someone would regret her Clorinde is good but cringe to play

[@lordofdisford8272]

There's a ton of characters in a game with a success floor that is basically underground. Something out there for everybody. No wrong answers. 👍

[@lucasayabe]

@@ahumanperson1638 as much as i like play Yoimiya, i have to agree that her gameplay sucks, if the abyss doesn't line up well like the current one (probably the one i have most fun with her since i got her) she fells shit to play or have teams that aren't that fun like having to use Beidou to multi target content.

[@christianmoraes7206]

@@ahumanperson1638 everything that ppl think makes clorinde cringe makes her fun to me tbh lol. I mained yoi for over a year on her release but nowadays ill admit shes pretty lackluster, I had my fun w her tho

[@zerk343]

​@@ahumanperson1638 clorinde is not cringe wtf you talking about

[@Ookami9035]

I can understand if it from 1.x unit but shenhe had very low lifespan as meta character before cryo got powercreeped by sumeru characters

[@SeaSerpent.]

I don’t agree with many of Zajefs lore takes but his take on arlecchino I 100% agree on. Agree with the Navia take too

[@mickysaif]

the reasons why I'll never get navia are her cancer voice lines and the navia glazers overhyping her as the best dps in every tc channel comments

[@CreationsFlare]

You have to like Navia's Golden Retriever energy to really click with her. That said, thank the Archons Xilonen came out and is mostly a quiet idle character.

[@almightynoob1631]

​@@CreationsFlaregolden retrievers don't whine everytime they come on screen

[@SleepyKurisu]

I feel like Arlecchino's animated short ruined her story quest because the short basically gave us all the lore from the quest except it's just pure eye candy meanwhile the quest is just dialogue heavy until you can unlock her boss fight

[@kingdoom5022]

Navia trial in act 5 as a whole is to move on on what happened to her servants , that's and L take , she's easily top 5 characters personality in the game , she was amazing in the 4.8 event

[@KategariYami]

The main reason I run Kaz more over Sucrose is just that I find her a bit clunky...

[@almightynoob1631]

@@KategariYami same

[@wall6587]

I think I speak on behalf of all childe mains when I say: For the love of the tsaritsa hoyo, please just give childe a new team

[@chrisatlas4503]

Alternative title: Arlecchino lore review

[@AugusXD]

Klee isn't in the lowest tier. Thank you, Zajef, for keeping hope.

[@MrErdtree]

Idk why Clorinde is a skip, but I love how she looks like the Hunters from Bloodborne so I’m drawn to her.

[@FirstLast-qq9zh]

I still play Eula every abyss, i just wish they’d give her literally anything like no shot Mika is the best we can do.

[@aratakiittolover22]

Rare w zajeff Lore take (I still love arlecchino but yea she was more interesting when we knew less)

[@Dafydd4]

Based VA take, the voice acting in Genshin generally feels soooooo stiff but Joe Zieja is the goat.

[@lancevance6346]

Another "based" take: EN Wrio had some of the most awkward voiceacting and voicelines in the archon quest when speaking to other characters and isn't remotely a good example for what Zajef was trying to highlight about him lol. There's much other better examples in the game, especially now in Natlan.

[@FreneticPotato]

Max's Itto sounds the most natural since they let him Ad-lib a lot

[@GenshinGhost]

As a Clorinde main i feel so offended 😔

[@Flare8124]

I got her at 2 pity just because I did a random wish and she's been lv 20 since lol

[@isky6541]

I love my Wriothesley wholeheartedly and my hopium is off the charts for Snezhnaya. Please let cryo shine. I might even pull the archon for him even if I end up disliking her design.

[@regulardude1579]

Having limited wishes, you learn to love what you get and not have meta goggles on.

[@jkj5345]

the character i regret the most would probably be hu tao. i really love her as a character but she just feels so bad to play. i also have characters like ayato and yoimiya but at least I've had my fair share of fun playing them in different teams. my hu tao experience was just horrible not to mention how long I've been farming crimson domain trying to get her a perfect set. she's also basically only played in one team with the same supports which made her kinda boring for me

[@scarlettlav]

I have the opposite impression of Arle (I mean to each on their own. I love her more after she’s humanised) but I do agree Hoyo’s writing and drip marketing is very inconsistent that leads to people having vastly different expectations of the characters.

[@aigdius]

Sigewinne and Bazihu are similar. They both make life better in unpredictable way, but SW is more universal (at least for people who don't play blooms much). I have C1R1 and going to pull C2 at least. At C0 she is just nice universal healer. At C1R1 she is healer + sub-DPS. At C2 she is healer + sub-DPS + buffer. At C4+ she is the goat.

[@Liawdd]

She’s a waste of a character. Players are not gonna invest into an unsusable healer weapon only usable on her. Her cons are also a total waste, so many better cons to get, she’s just a total flop and should’ve never been released as she is, or just should’ve been a four star

[@whats_goody_gang]

people trying to cope defend OBJECTIVELY terrible characters kills me. like ay man i respect a sigewinne main but not when they pretend she’s useful meta-wise. what you described for her c2 is quite literally what bennet does at c0

[@muslimrafi275]

Zajef got that master's degree in yapology.

[@vokdmso9898]

my problem with shenhe as a non shenhe haver and a rizzley haver, is that at this point i feel very strongly about her being replaced by some other 5* Cryo support in Sneznhaya

[@flaku1324]

of course the biggest xingqiu simp puts the better, 5* xingqiu in meh lmao

[@ciofurinone4225]

I have Ayato. I got him "by accident" trying to get some Sucrose cons when he released, but I don't regret getting him, his gameplay is fun and he carried me a lot when I started playing Abyss. Even if he is not as nearly as good as he was on release, I still like him On the other hand, rhe characters I regret the most for pulling are Nilou and Clorinde, their gameplay are really chuncky

[@thelobotomobile]

I really hate this game sometimes. I finally got all the parts I needed for the Ayaka’s “meta” team (first it was Kazuha, then it was Shenhe, Shenhe’s weapon on accident and then Ayaka’s weapon on purpose, and finally Kokomi) only for it phase out of meta and not be used in abyss in most of 4.0. Surely I’ll have a use for Shenhe later though…hopefully.

[@Nickulator]

I must be the only Genshin player in existence who loves Ayato and would never refund him lol. He's a great overworld character, especially on TF.

[@ExaltedXero]

cmon that kazuha excuse is such an L take. The reason you use him is because he's better and easier than sucrose XD not because he's high on the chosen character list.

[@Senorgato029]

What happened with chlorinde was she is on thundering fury, but her atk sands and electro goblet are ass so she’s on em goblet and atk sands which have much better stats but she does negative damage outside of quick bloom and I don’t feel like farming better artifacts

[@arber7240]

Whenever he starts to talk about his opinion on the story of x/y I really have to skip those parts everytime. Sometimes he just has some of the worst takes I've seen on the story like ever and I'm an active participant in r/Genshin_lore since its conception so that should say a lot

[@tomekpiatek88]

I wouldn't give back my Ganyu. I like her too much, I also use her in the events quite often, especially with Venti.

[@KingOfMalevolence]

I use a Clorinde team that I haven't seen anyone else use which is Raiden-Nahida-Baizhu-Clorinde. Because both Raiden and Clorinde have relatively low field time, they can both act as DPS in the team and share Nahida's and part of Baizhu's buffs. ER requirements become lower for everyone and you can use Raiden as DPS instead of a bloom bot, which IMO is very boring.

[@abdullahgamal8238]

I would switch dehya with clorinde, and am I the only one who wouldn't refund Ayato? I think he is fun and solid

[@danielmonteiro7781]

“Characters I wouldnt even trade Zhongli’s C1 for” is kinda harsh but I agree

[@aster_hann]

king release the long awaited wriothesley guide please

[@Ulquiorra_Cifer]

Childe is very likely will have new teams very soon, ororon's kit seems pretty interesting for a new firecrackers team

[@narukami4959]

Meh

[@pyronado4320]

Itto eula and yoimiya for me. Thing is i already knew they're pretty bad but still pulled just because i wanted to test how it feels to pull solely based on feelings. It's terrible

[@Doobydoe]

@@pyronado4320 honestly good thing I gave up on pulling Itto when I saw his in-game model

[@pyronado4320]

@@Doobydoe everytime I see him he looks worse than before

[@lkd338]

Very happy I lost my Itto 50/50 to Tighnari 😌 would lose again

[@kitnal4143]

ngl I have Yoimiya and use her religiously- I also really want Eula. TBH though it is more that I know I can do enough of abyss without sweating and most of the game is farming and story/exploration. When powerful characters are just "can clear the game even faster" all I care about is being able to clear.

[@FreneticPotato]

I regret Navia. I realize I never really enjoyed her playstyle and would rather just continue the Unga Bunga. I still end up using Itto in a lot of situations despite having her. She's locked up in the basement with Eula never to see the light of day ever again.

[@himanshu4826]

Yo I’m new , can anyone tell me what poggies means ?

[@Dafydd4]

Basically if something is "pog" it means it's good. "Pog" is a twitch emote of a guy with a very excited expression. Poggies like a cutesy version of the term pog.

[@himanshu4826]

@@Dafydd4 oh I see , thanks for explaining

[@shinobu1886]

Saying Arlecchino's aura went down after her SQ is certainly a take.

[@Puppetmaster2005]

Kokomi is INSANE this patch........ I'm currently running her with Furina + Kazuha + Xilonen. It's absolutely bonkers LOL. Her normal attacks are hitting for 20k noncrits a hit LOL.

[@bifrost_1824]

It’s funny that some of my absolute favorites (Yoimiya, Eula and Ganyu) haven’t aged the best.

[@tinyzoo727]

Yeah, feelsbadman

[@AzureDrag0n1]

Ganyu for me is more a burst support now. I even put her on Emblem more now.

[@richboywinston5097]

Emilie helped Yoimiya a little bit

[@yarikar]

Thanks for sharing, that was fun :D

[@feelshowdy]

I'm probably the only person in this world who doesn't regret getting Ayato 🥲. I use him every abyss. And before anyone asks yes I have Neuvillette (C1 even).

[@saramegan2243]

I tried to make this tierlist too and I never pulled anything that I regretted in the slightest.

[@Br0llyLSSJ]

You could "Star" your characters and sort them in the character selection screen in the abyss. That way Sucrose would be higher up if you "favorite" her. Edith says: I think it is called "Astral Mark". Works quite good.

[@williamsonah5667]

Twas this day, that zajef choose to war with the entire community RIP zajef😢

[@MOEMOEKYUNBEAM]

Its rare that I completely agree with just about every part of a creator's list but this time I actually do, if I could refund my Chlorinde, Yoimiya, Cyno, Eula, Albedo, Klee I could have a C6 of someone I actually like.

[@alexsjarif]

I fully relate to the arlechino part thats why i actually hope the tsaritsa will be actually evil

[@kingdoom5022]

Tsaritsa is literally the only character that shouldn't be evil , her entire purpose is to delete celestia which are the final biggest villain in the game

[@alexsjarif]

@@kingdoom5022 what i mean by evil is like zajef just described arle as being evil for the greater good. Like sacreficing inocent people to save the world type of thing

[@leiplays-wf7ez]

@@alexsjarif man I hope they go balls to the wall "end justifies the means" type of character with the tsaritsa it'd be so awesome but it's mihoyo.

[@kingdoom5022]

​​@@alexsjarif Arlechino was literally by far the most disappointing harbinger between harbingers in all of the archons quests , she literally was a plot armour with no personality , her story quest at least makes her decent

[@alexsjarif]

@@kingdoom5022 dissagree but ok

[@TheBerryChocolate]

i always think i will get tired of childe, but then we get these battle events with a lot of small enemies where he turnes the whole arena into a washingmachine. I'm just way to addicted to those hydro chain reactions.

[@boringfactor8792]

The only character i have ever regretted is neuvillete. Legit haven't touched him since like week 2

[@xDharak]

why?

[@boringfactor8792]

@@xDharak playing him feels like playing a Mario platformer with no enemies and no hazards

[@mickysaif]

personally I love how his ca feels, especially when you animation cancel the balls sucking and instantly let out the beam it feels like accelerating a car

[@kingdoom5022]

​@@mickysaif Exactly

[@lancevance6346]

I dumped 300 wishes to get Neuv C0R1 then went back to my C4 Ayato+Kazuha comp. Nothing hits the same fun and gameplay wise.

[@la_dose5206]

Matters of taste... also would refund a few chars but they all had so much playtime that it doesn't feel fair. That's what bench is for.

[@quicksilver2330]

As Ayaka main, seeing Klee above Ayaka hurts. At the same time kinda justified considering a complete lack of attention to Cryo (minus the changes to reactions, which didn't "fix" anything outside of making electro-charged stronger, eh isn't a Cryo reaction anyway)

[@bbajr]

why don't u give sucrose astral mark?

[@michaelyang838]

Feels like the reasoning of him being critical of characters and writing was not only super subjective but also hilariously bad. Every single person I’ve met who is this critical have been a miserable human being. Def not a place I wanna be

[@mikevin5238]

I pulled for Eula coz she pulled me into the game. I made it my longterm goal to make her one of the best in my account. I haven't made progress, but I would never forget pulling for her.

[@MrHav1k]

Only character I regret pulling is Eula. I got baited by damage per screenshot on her first rerun. Everyone else I’m still satisfied with.

[@FPSrad]

Warning: contains story spoilers!

[@hiimapop7755]

My biggest regret for pulled 5 stars is probably Albedo, since he does feel underwhelming, and he's easily countered in the Abyss. Other than him, I don't really regret getting any of my other limited 5 stars. I even find Eula fun since my build on her has a ton of ER, so I just burst every rotation. I guess this is cos I'm a lot more lenient with the characters I pull for, since I'm pretty much the only one making the decision, lol.

[@dan2800]

I don't see a kind soul in the comment section that provided a timestamps for every character

[@sandy12543]

I’m tired of people saying nuevillete is a boring character like HOW ? I’m genuinely curious ? He is socially awkward , tries to communicate and understand human emotions and played an important role in Fontaine quest. Regarding his gameplay being boring . I can agree to that for some extent cze not everyone wants to complete a challenge in few minutes . But when it comes to tough bosses , He would easily be the most comfortable and easy character to use along with Furina (besides hydro enemies ) .

[@tierlis422]

Man, I regret Clorinde so much. She took 2 full pities that I could have saved for Chasca, Mavuika, Citlali, or used on Mualani.

[@rensharlie1341]

For me it's Itto C1 Was fun for 1 patch, but i gave up grinding a decent set for him and just abandoned him, using his mid arts for other characters