Reigniting my Passion with Car Waxes | Pinnacle Souveran Detailing Wax Review

[@seashackf1]

Waxing is definitely good for the soul. I’m into all the latest products and won’t go back to the old sealants and wax routine for my protection. The new ceramic spray toppers win that battle hands down. Where wax comes in for me is nothing beats the richness or depth in its shine. None of the new products can match it yet. So maybe once a year or so, after a decon wash, I’ll put a coat on. The fun, experience and results are always worth it. Use whatever product with good carnauba you want. None are going to last long, but that’s not the point either. The ceramics are for protection. Carnauba is for you.

[@keithblacknell957]

Best content for a while, was worried you were becoming a Porsche channel. Applied some Dodo juice waxes recently, waxing for me is almost like meditation.

[@peterowen4456]

Agreed. Car care can be a useful "mindfulness" thing - relaxing.

[@justjosh11]

"that's my greatest asset, I'm an idiot!" - I don't always agree with everything you say or how you say it, but there is a sentiment I can relate to :)

[@andrewgormley6851]

my father used a paste wax in the 80's called rain dance

[@coletorrens1121]

Back in the 1980's this was a great product. Would love to compare it with todays waxes.

[@robsx4280]

😅 I picked up some Raindance in 1989 in Lawton OK and brought back to the UK, I probably still have the bottle somewhere, Used that, Crystal Glo and good old TW Hard Shell.

[@fnagdungdagint]

Mine too. Apparently it was a big deal back then 😄

[@SuperJapierdole]

Actually I have both Scholl Vintage and Pinnacle Souveran in personal collection. I do not consider waxes as obsolete at all. This still is protection and hobbyist gem. Pinnacle has good looks and application is super nice. You can do wowo but also leave the thing for a night and removal still be a dream. Souveran is kind of a special thing as you accept super low durability - like up to 8 weeks only. It does the wet look thing right and can punch in high league. I compare this stuff to high tier zymol stuff, swiss, bilthambers. Souveran is the thing and I love having it at hand.

[@richardpage1162]

I often used to use R222 wax (used to be P21) back in the day. Wet look for days and insane beading! On a wet day that froze overnight, the beads that froze were often 2cm wide and 0.5cm high in places

[@helipeek2736]

£85? Wow, I’ll stick with Soft99.

[@notorious_ji9762]

Yes I agree Fusso topped with Kiwami. Absolutely amazing.

[@miguelroscas]

​@@notorious_ji9762can you give more details please? You wait to cure to put kiwami?

[@maseraticc2834]

Interesting, thoughtful, comprehensive and passionate video John - 10/10! For me, the point here is that Pinnacle Souveran and similar waxes are for our special cars that are garaged, that are only really used during the dry summer months - so cars that are loved, looked after and cosseted. The synthetic sealants and ceramic coatings are really for daily drivers that are not garaged and need that level of protection and durability from sitting outside 24/7, as they are subject to environmental pollution, rain, sun, bird poo etc. etc....also, for people who can't be bothered with spending time waxing cars - incredibly some see this as a chore 🤷‍♂. I am not interested in durability here. I use Souveran on my classic which doesn't see any rain, unless I get caught out (it happened once). I put a coat of Souveran on perhaps 3 times during the summer months before I go to an event - the red paint then looks like it is dripping off the car, the gloss is incredible. I see Souveran as a feel-good show car wax! 👍

[@petersmith7126]

If you have the weather and the time to do it then I still find actually applying a paste wax is very therapeutic and seems to finish off your day cleaning the car on a high note

[@AndrewGibson22]

I still use liquid BMW Autowax: I bought six tins of it in 1989 and still have two left! Not quite the durability of Soft99 or BH waxes but gorgeous to use and a glorious shine, 35 years after it should have gone off 😧

[@chrisyoung5573]

Loved this vlog, turning back the clock is always heart warming. I can tell your very passionate and knowledgeable about your waxes. I'm in my seventies so have tried quite a few myself over the years but to be honest without knowing very much about any of them. Interesting to me at least is Autogym produced great waxes then and transitioned so well into the ceramic products of today. For me wax is dead though. The modern day products are so much easier to apply and give more protection for longer. Although the nostalgia of the back breaking effort to apply a quality wax is still very powerful. Thanks for this video ,very enjoyable to watch and yes nostalgic

[@squarterman8807]

Having enjoyed detailing for nearly 10 years now I have come to realise that all these different protective products actually have their place, including still carnuba wax. If you have a garage queen that you only get out on the odd sunny day and it is beauty of finish that is the most important to you, then I still think waxes give the best finish and colour depth of all (I find most of the others to be too reflective rather than enhance the colour). Cleaning the wifes car and can't really be bothered, but want some decent protection? I'll spray Sonax BSD on it - quick, cheap, durable and looks pretty good If I have the time to prep my car, and autumn/winter is coming up then I'll stick something like Tac Systems Moonlight on it - great protection and longer lasting, but takes more prep Then there are "top-up" type products like Tac System Shinee Wax which give a quick top-up when I don't really have time (a bit like BSD). Depends on what you want, the car it is going on and how much time you have. I've realised more and more that there is no "one answer" - they all excel in different ways and I use them all.

[@markjefferson7492]

Great to see some back to roots old skoll wax shootout. Big wax fan here and great to see some product content back on the channel. Watched until the end, loved it and can't wait to see the 10 wax comparisons. If you could include Anglewax Fifth Element in the shootout, that would be great. Fab video John 👍🏻

[@davebentley3542]

Unless I’ve missed an episode…. We don’t know what you’ve done engine wise to the Porsche…… what’s the situation?

[@johnhall8707]

The Simoniz® Company came into being as the first American car wax company in 1911. Its formation was made possible by George Simons, who developed a cleaner and a carnauba wax product for car finishes.

[@robsx4280]

Great video as usual and i watched to the end 😊. My first high end wax was Zymol Titanium back in mid to late 90s. Lovely wax to use and a little granular until softened. I used to apply it on my Zircon Blue Toyota MR2 and it looked fantastic, but more than that it made me feel like i had really treated the car to something special. I have a few very nice to use waxes at the moment but none have given me that feeling. Tempted by Zymol Glasur next though.

[@ForensicDetailing]

glazur is lovely, slight grain to it but also quite balm like, nice and soft and oily. I borrowed imrans for years :)

[@flightofthefelix8820]

Started using Sam's Detailing Signature Paste Wax after seeing Felix from APS Detailing in Germany using it on an old Audi 100. He completely transformed it! I would be interested in your view on this wax Jon. It certainly brought my old XJ40 Daimler up a notch!

[@MrHyde14537]

Greetings from the US...Watching this video made me nostalgic, so I went to my garage and pulled my old (10yr+ ??) container of Souveran off the shelf just to enjoy that wonderful tropical smell. It seems like the quality of the bag and towel has definitely fallen over the years. My bag is more golden with quality stitching. My towel was a dark blue, edgeless Cobra wax removal towel. It seems like Pinnacle have left this product on the vine to wither. With modern ceramics, and spray-on, wipe-off products, I don't use pure wax much anymore, but when I do feel nostalgic to put something on by hand, Souveran is one of the best to scratch that itch. It won't last, doesn't fill much (the car I use it on doesn't need that), and it attracts dust, but it goes on like warm butter, buffs off easier than anything, leaves a warm, beautiful glow, and the smells is lovely (very tropical and fruity). It is definitely one of the best waxes to use just to savor the experience!

[@MegaFregel]

That’s something I learned to appreciate over the years. I started off going for maximum performance (and I’m still into that) but sometimes you just want a great user experience.

[@subarubrat]

Hello Jon, Great video.👍 the Pinnacle wax seems very similar in character to Blackfire's Ivory wax that I used back in the day. Other waxes I like are Poorboy's Natty's blue, Dodo Juice's Purple Haze and Victoria Concours wax (sadly no longer available I believe).

[@Stucun84]

I enjoyed seeing you put your moustache in the wax 😂… I still have some Chemical Guys (oh no!) 50/50 wax and I love it…

[@simonyounger9583]

Great watch so thanks Jon. I'll be sticking with the Autoglym the for the time being

[@chrisdunn8215]

Great video John very informative, i am glad that the Auto Glym won your test because its what i use, however i have recently purchased some Bilt Hamber Double Speed Wax...will it win me over? i do like Auto Glym products though and i dont think i have used a bad one.. BUT i can say the same for Bilt Hamber too especially Touch-less and Trace-less. Brilliant video John keep them coming cheers mate.

[@ForensicDetailing]

the Bilt Hamber wax cures harder, beads like crazy and will outlast the autoglym wax. DS can get some moisture sticking on the surface if your garage is humid. The BH DS is unbeatable really at the price point. Its the best performing wax at 16 quid. But Autoglym is a class act to, a bit more high end.

[@kevkav5680]

Really interesting testing John , going to get some of my fusso coat on the car this weekend!

[@Jimmer-Space88]

Absolutely with you on Caruba waxes. For many of us who love to take care of our vehicles, there’s great pleasure in our weekly washes and finishing of the vehicle. For that exact reason I won’t use ceramics. I would have nothing to do for a year or two.

[@DavidC1]

🤣

[@willtothewong]

Awesome video. Looking forward to more deep dives into traditional paste waxes 👍

[@haroldcottam8174]

Great video and I would love to see more about waxes. No one is producing content about wax. I learned so much about wax today thanks.

[@johnbrown3951]

I must be a geek on Wax as I watched to the end and would probably have listened for another hour. I am very lucky to live within 10 minutes from two luxury brand car wax makers in Angelwax and Mitchell & King. It would be interesting if you were to showcase British made waxes. I had a car ceramic coated with Gyeon Mohs and regretted it as I couldn't play with my range of waxes so I sold it within 2 weeks.

[@zzhughesd]

Paste wax rules Jon. Ended up riding bike. Bluetooth. Just listened to you about 3 hours. Kept playing your next video. Learnt loads ( reminded more where I go wrong !!! ) You were regretably buffing a paste wax double speed mini polisher hating on it. Saying not designed for machine. Is there any advantage at all using machine. I don't see what it could be ??? And when I hand polish. I tend to go around in circles loads over and over. Does it just need a wipe on and not a rub across panel. I always wonder if the Carnuba needs rubbing in. Or literally a wipe with light pressure once per square inch. Cheers Jon

[@ForensicDetailing]

not really but nowadays with cordless machines on low speed it can be quicker and you get a nice thin even coat. but getting the wax on the pad can be a bit of a pain. The gyeon wax with its cool applicator does get around that problem though

[@zzhughesd]

@@ForensicDetailing yup. Cheers J. I’m going to carry on my hand. Even with Tennis elbow it’s a pleasure hand wax feel the panel. Only small city cars. Hand is fine.

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Wax is not dead. Doesnt last long but at least i dont chase water spots

[@dthomson409]

Hey John, could listen to you talk about detailing products until the end of time. I love your easygoing and not too serious presentation style, and it's obvious you have a huge amount of knowledge and experience which makes you my most trustworthy source of detailing information. I'd be keen to see more of the benefits of waxes compared to newer paint protection ie sealants and coatings. I've been a detailing enthusiast for the last 2 years and I keep getting told about this 'glow' especially on metallic paints that only a wax can provide. Im yet to see good KZbin footage of this in comparison to other protection. Maybe you could get your hands on a few premium waxes and do a 50-50 on a panel between a wax and a coating to show off that 'glow effect' to everyone. PS if you're looking for a premium boxing experience to go along with a modern premium wax, you should try and get your hands on Bowden's own beaut beads from Australia. Cheers!

[@ForensicDetailing]

we have gone of done this mate. I think the video was called like holy grail of gloss. waxes do have a slightley more reflective jetting thing. hard to describe. and yes theres a fine line between BS and real benefit. But that being said I will always love wax even if I dont always use it out of laziness.

[@tonyosullivan2382]

Really really enjoyed this video jon. Love these detail chatting ones🤙 angelwax enigma wax has to be in your top 10.its amazing stuff👌

[@coletorrens1121]

Sad that this is un KZbin friendly cos its the best content on here in a while. Fascinating deductions, and simply you at you very very best. As a pro detailer I apply ceramics day in day out, its where the £££ is. Would i use a ceramic on my pride and joy? Hell no! Wax every time on my own stuff, even the works Navara has soft 99! Hang on a moment, why am I saying that? Profits will plummet! Shut up Cole! Aaaaaatissssshu!

[@chrisbradley3224]

Would love to know how the Infinity Wax Optic compares. I love the smell and feel. I used to use Souveran regularly until about 2012, it's good but overrated I am afraid. I switched to Poorboy's Natty Red and it was quite similar for much less money.

[@Auris58]

Nothing better than putting on a lovely wax 👌👌

[@brettmitchell4750]

Not old old but I remember getting the dodo juice cook at home wax. It was an interesting experience cooking it up and applying to the car. Was an awesome process though 😂

[@hamish856]

Try Mitchell and King if you are interested in wax Scottish based company.

[@kevinb7058]

Just received my 1st order from M&K today buddy. Pure, titan and went for rpm and azure wax. You tried any?

[@karlhulme8014]

I’d really like to see John do a video on this company. Currently I can’t really justify buying another wax… but M&K are top of my wish list .

[@samuraipete2488]

Hi John, have you ever considered using Mitchell and King waxes?

[@ForensicDetailing]

I tend to use wax less m8. And if I did send the money swussvsx or zymol are the ones I would go for probably but love what Mitch and king do.

[@jw191]

I’m still a regular Autoglym UHD user

[@Theorangeman.]

This is a great product

[@taxi54938vito]

Still think fusso are on point,thanks to your videos I purchased or I probably would never have bothered

[@johnmelling9950]

I wonder if the Autoglym has some extra filling ingredient such as kaolin since its more of your typical Halfords consumer wax that will be used by people who wont be polishing before applying? The filling aspect was very impressive but anybody that used the Pinnacle Souvran back in the day knows that its one of the best looking waxes. Those oils just add immense jetting on dark solid colours but the durability is about one month in the real world. Another nice looking wax was P21S Concours, another very oily wax with great looks but poor durability. I think the best all rounder ive ever used though was Swissvax Best Of Show. It leaves a great glow to the paint whilst having not bad durability for a show wax. Some other notable mentions are Chemical Guys Petes 53, Victoria Concours and Lusso Oro. I spent many hours doing Cleakote Red Moose Glaze followed by a wax on my red Toyota MR2 back in the mid 00's. More recently ive dipped my toes back into waxes and 3D Poxy is a real nice looking machine applied liquid wax

[@ForensicDetailing]

I doubt they would use kaolin. Thats more a meguiars thing. Im not sure what autoglym are doing but its got a good solvent system in it, it will cure out properly and fully but it beads like crazy. P21S looks very much like the pinnacle does it, mega oily insane shine but no durability. Swisswax BOS is nice isnt it. I think its changed names recently. I will get some and review it for the channe but ive used it before. Petes 53 is great. I think Ive used one victoria wax once but cant remember. angelwax enigma is one that I love.

[@philh3409]

Petes 53, Bilt Hamber Doublespeed, Meguirs 2.0, Turtlewax Graphene...all in my arsenal for when i feel the need to just take my time and stand back and enjoy the fruits of my labour. Oh, somebody pass John the Kleenex😅

[@johnbob90519]

Thanks for another great video John (currently still watching) 😂 Do you use air compressors to do interior detailing? I have recently converted my van into a mobile valeting van. I'm wanting to get the Air Blaster Ultra but unsure on what compressor size to get, I know I need it to be 4.5 scfm at 90psi. I was just wondering if you have any recommendations please if you don't mind fella 👍

[@ForensicDetailing]

no m8 jusr vac really. no compressor

[@johnbob90519]

No probs, thanks for your reply. You got me hooked on loads of Bilt Hamber stuff years ago

[@JohnPooley-te9ei]

Nice1 Forensic & thank u

[@karlhulme8014]

Please do a review on Mitchell and King.

[@Charlie-gx9lm]

Been asking for this for ages. Ive had it for years, this stuff is BEAUTIFUL I low-key knew it would win on gloss 🤣🤣 you can use it in the sun on smoking hot paint too

[@johnmelling9950]

It really is a special looking wax. One of the few that really does add something to the paint on dark solid colours. Very wet and radiant looking.

[@BEALZABOZO]

An hour long video when I’ve work in 7 hours?! Let’s be having ya 😂

[@Simb-l]

John I think should polish and wax you tool box, it,would make a great episode.

[@rooboy99]

That would have to go on a whole different website! 😊

[@Simb-l]

@@rooboy99 😂

[@Bleutigerr]

Hi buddy, are you getting in the Rupes BigFoot HLR15 iBrid DA Polisher in for review? Looks like an amazing cordless polisher!

[@ForensicDetailing]

yes mate coming very soon

[@keithmelling8530]

I think we are all guilty of hunting the holy grail of glossy paint. I asked a guy when i was a kid how did he get his car like a mirror. He whispered to me ‘start with 1500 sandpaper’. Lol

[@brandonherrera2891]

I have pinnacle souveran as well. Truthfully, I prefer my gyeon wax over it.

[@deaconfamily2441]

Hi John, thanks for the video, What do you think of SOFT99 Fusso Coat 12 Months Wax Dark on a black car?

[@ForensicDetailing]

its about as good as it gets for a wax in a tin mate.

[@MrMuuf]

Loved to listen.

[@DailyisRaceCar]

Can you add collinite 476 to your list? Used it for years (tin has just finished after 10 years) and found it better than autoglym. It’s also much much cheaper

[@ForensicDetailing]

id personally favour colly 915 over 476.

[@paulmcgarry7745]

Unless my eyes were deceiving me you gave Pinnacle a 3 for price which I assume is an oversight!! £85 for Pinnacle £48 for Autoglym. So....only my opinion, I would say Autoglym wins your test hands down - it is a British Company so for me another reason to choose it. Having said that not sure I want to revert to waxing but reading the comments it just might be good for my soul so you never know 😁😁🚗🚗

[@seashackf1]

Waxing is definitely good for the soul. I’m into all the latest products and won’t go back to the old sealants and wax routine for my protection. The new ceramic spray toppers win that battle hands down. Where wax comes in for me is nothing beats the richness or depth in its shine. None of the new products can match it yet. So maybe once a year or so, after a decon wash, I’ll put a coat on. The fun, experience and results are always worth it. Use whatever product with good carnauba you want. None are going to last long, but that’s not the point either. The ceramics are for protection. Carnauba is for you.

[@g40nut]

You said you could not smell much of a scent of the wax, but then again you are sneezing😁. Mine from 2006 still smell of tropical fruit, with a little hint of coconut. One waxed my daily A6 in October and added a little bit of their spray detailer Crystal Mist every other wash, and it was still beading in the end of March. Driven in snow and salt in Norway

[@ShaneC2788]

Very interesting thanks

[@spookypunky]

Always wanted to try this stuff out, dont have $70 for wax. That's a tank of gas...

[@SeattleWizard]

24:27 hahahah . BE NICE! 😅

[@damiankimmins3880]

You short of a few quid?

[@GregoryVeizades]

Dont forget Angelwax has some quite spendy products.

[@markjefferson7492]

Ive just got some angelwax fifth element for the summer. Looks a nice pour

[@RodeoRides]

Here 🇺🇸 Collinite 845 or FK1000P

[@GregoryVeizades]

845 is good but Super Double Coat is better in my opinion. Also Marque de Elegance is a good competitor to Souveran.

[@zippysearle]

what's with eyes 👀 😂

[@ForensicDetailing]

they got like their own thing going on I cant control them :)

[@paul6749]

Agree re the point re too easy a wipe off…makes you think you are removing all the protection you have just applied. Sorry John, your sniffing gets on the nerves😬

[@RobertSmith-di5ll]

I like your content - so I guess that makes me an idiot

[@OraEtLabora0]

18:52 Allah? 😉

[@bestcrazyboy8487]

He did not say bloody Allah 🤮

[@davidboyce6427]

Thanks Jon🫡Appreciate your deep dive to unlock the Wax mysteries 👀👌🫡