Reincarnation and the Tripartite Soul of Indo-European Tradition

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Survive the Jive

Survive the Jive

7 жыл бұрын

Understanding the European Religious Tradition.
I believe that the European pagan religions had some notion of reincarnation. This is evident from multiple sources from Buddha to Plato. I look at different Indo-European traditions for evidence of the tripartite conception of the soul. I reference the works of Julius Evola and Rene Guenon.
There was a concern for honour and glory. We see this in the Greek concept of Kleos which comes from Proto-Indo-European *ḱlewos it is also akin to the Norse fylgja.... but this was not the ultimate goal of pagan religion.
The highest part of the soul was what Plato called logistikon, akin to Logos, and related to the PIE concept *rta which refers to the governing principle of all creation and being.
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@killoreo
@killoreo 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for going over all this Pre-Christian European culture . I am an Indian and seeker of Vedic knowledge and I read about the connections to the Pre-christian similarities to Sanatan Dharm. When I speak to Europeans most people unfortunately have absolutely no knowledge of their Pre-Christian past. Keep the knowledge alive. As a far as reincarnation the soul moves on, meaning for example when u close your eyes and do not speak or see or hear, and clear your mind "you" are still there it's is that "you" that moves on without all the "Maya"/ world attachments ( name, status, feelings, etc.) attached to it, or it reaches "moksha/nirvana/release from the cycle"
@cincoy3679
@cincoy3679 4 жыл бұрын
killoreo No. They toke are gods alway from us.
@ronalddunne3413
@ronalddunne3413 3 жыл бұрын
I'm no Hindu- but I definitely hear what you are saying.
@ixisinvestigator6009
@ixisinvestigator6009 3 жыл бұрын
i wanna meet some other peoples ho believe in vedism and sanatan
@nitinbull8720
@nitinbull8720 2 жыл бұрын
@@ixisinvestigator6009 I m here
@ixisinvestigator6009
@ixisinvestigator6009 2 жыл бұрын
@@nitinbull8720 can we give each others facebooks? or discord?
@redwolf7929
@redwolf7929 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is very important for us who are of European descent. Our wonderful culture has been suppressed particularly in the "colonial " nations of Australia, Canada and U.S. It has been replaced with consumerism ,and the abrahamic Christianity. People who can feel there's more than that often search in other cultures for soul substance , not realising we have our own very deep ,ancient traditions.This channel helps inspire exploration of such.Thank you.
@redwolf7929
@redwolf7929 2 жыл бұрын
I would also like to add that these 3 differant "levels" or parts seem to correspond to the differant aspects of a person's life .We all have these 3 aspects at all times but they each seem to grow or decline as life progresses. A young teenager through to early adulthood is quite likely to be chasing sex , and pleasure, like drinking and partying.The next stage can be about family ,making connections at or for work , being part of a team or seeking "your" type of people to associate with , making a good name for yourself for employment and personal reasons. The next stage then moves into seeking understanding and sense out of life's experiences, looking for knowledge, and truth unburdened by societies norms or rules , or prevailing attitudes or religions ,and thinking about the next life or death. I read about this in one of those free books the Hare Krishna give out once ,and it had a really good illustration to go with it , showing a man going through life and death , and rebirth.
@haniamritdas4725
@haniamritdas4725 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree with your first comment! The stuff about Tripartite things - well yes it's very nice to organize things and thoughts in groups of three, where they can be compared. For example the yogic concept of "three gunas", which can literally be applied to everything everywhere.
@Yotun-of-the-WWW
@Yotun-of-the-WWW 4 жыл бұрын
the 3 parts of the soul are in Norse mythology signified by the 3 brothers Odin, Villi and Vé. Odin, the logos the search for knowledge, the head. Villi, willpower the instincts, the lusts, the genitalia, the bowls. Vé, Awe, Faith, emotions feelings, the heart. Those 3 brothers together were able to slay the fist being Ymir and create the worlds from its body.
@googlegulag7750
@googlegulag7750 4 жыл бұрын
Mind blown. Its fascinating insight. This seems to fit quite nicely, however is this your speculation/interpretation? Just wondering if there's within the texts to strengthen the link. Either way, fascinating. Thank you.
@DLC1325
@DLC1325 3 жыл бұрын
Of all Norse figures I have always identified most with Odin as a heavily philosophical/spiritual person, even though my name is Dustin/Thorstein/"Thor's Stone". Thank you for your insight.
@MaBrickHouse
@MaBrickHouse 18 күн бұрын
Goes back to the sky father and the indoaryan mythos of the one who is complete in his people as 3
@jackwalker7452
@jackwalker7452 7 жыл бұрын
I loved the "blood and soil" aspect of Germanic paganism, but I always felt there was a lack of transcendence in it compared to other Indo-European religions. Your videos make me think different. Thanks for this.
@Survivethejive
@Survivethejive 7 жыл бұрын
Eieio the depth is often overlooked even by those who call themselves pagans
@EadmundIsenHealf
@EadmundIsenHealf 7 жыл бұрын
This isn't really true, it's more to do with the loss of esoteric meaning in the few surviving texts we have, and the lack thereof.
@jattfitness3136
@jattfitness3136 6 жыл бұрын
nice this is in my indo scythian tribal beliefs as well
@infinity8288
@infinity8288 2 жыл бұрын
@@jattfitness3136 Reincarnation is mentioned in our book The Bhagwad Gita. Chapter 9 verse 25 says, If u worship Devas or the demi Gods like sun or moon, your soul will go to them. If u worship the forefathers ,u will get stuck with them. If u worship the spirits and ghosts , u will eventually enter the spirit world.
@audhumbla6927
@audhumbla6927 2 жыл бұрын
Yes brothers!!! 💪🏻🩸❤🍀 I very much recommend the YT channel "Norse magic and beliefs", his video on reincarnation, and how they burried people diffrently due to how they wanted to reincarnate etc, is very fashinating!!! He comes from a similar school of thought as "Lady of The Labyrinth", also very much recommend!! (I love this video of yours Survive the Jive, I return here now and then, bless you!!!!! 💪🏻🍀💚👑)
@CDPF5
@CDPF5 7 жыл бұрын
I've spent the whole day reading about reincarnation in paganism, and now Survive the Jive uploads a video about reincarnation... *THE GODS ARE TALKING TO ME*
@adindrecaj
@adindrecaj 7 жыл бұрын
its really not a coincidence that things like this happen, its been happening to me more and more often as i progress in my learning of Traditionalism and spirituality. It's only when you reject blind belief and atheism that you can truly have the potential to find the metaphysical.
@morgomir176
@morgomir176 7 жыл бұрын
Deities do not work in our favour. They are to make our life harder, so we can grow more wise and stronger.
@SirWilliamTambourine
@SirWilliamTambourine 7 жыл бұрын
Also, Google knows what you're reading most of the time, and when it think it does, it'll suggest in accordance to your "manifested" interests.
@CDPF5
@CDPF5 7 жыл бұрын
SirWilliamTambourine I'm subscribed to STJ, of course KZbin was going to suggest me the video lol
@lameusername1415
@lameusername1415 7 жыл бұрын
Law of attraction.
@adindrecaj
@adindrecaj 7 жыл бұрын
All of this is just absolutely brilliant, I need to learn about this more. I can't believe I was so foolish as to be an atheist / nihilist at one point in my life.
@petergibbons8494
@petergibbons8494 7 жыл бұрын
I can't believe someone thinks this is true, not just that proto-Indo-Europeans believed it but that it's actually how human beings are created. I don't even know where to begin with this: the argument from antiquity, where do these essences come from how, how do they affect the physical person.
@adindrecaj
@adindrecaj 7 жыл бұрын
firstly, at the beginning of the video, he said these were his personal beliefs. Now, do you think this is all just some bullshit someone made up one day? look it up yourself dude, do your own research. i have, and i have logically came to the conclusion that they did believe in these things. the concepts Survive the Jive talks about, they makes a lot of sense. They're compelling, mainly because these abstract concepts are seen in so many other pagan / pre-christian beliefs. Also, I've been able draw a lot of parallels with pagan and pre-christian beliefs with science. For example, in the ancient vedic texts, there are mentions of planetary systems, round planets, and even very (relatively) advanced concepts such as time dilation. another example is the fact that the ancient greeks believed that in the beginning of time there was only chaos, no light or structure, and only fundamental materials. then, things started coming together and light was born, along with planets, solar systems and what-not. this is almost identical to the description the Big Bang Theory gives about the beginning of the universe. (maybe this is a weaker example because the big bang theory doesnt even have an equation to sum it up and has many inconsistencies) And you know what, even if all of this isnt true, and the human has no soul (which in my opinion is kind of absurd to believe we dont), its still much better to believe in these kind of lies as appose to accepting that we have no souls and life is meaningless, living a miserable existence, and becoming a husk of a human being; aka, an atheist or nihilist.
@adindrecaj
@adindrecaj 7 жыл бұрын
remember, man is the measure of all things. not science. science merely a platform that lets us collect information, to which the interpretation of such is left to the observer. science will not and cannot have the answers to everything. and, Philosophy is a school of knowledge just as valid as science.
@petergibbons8494
@petergibbons8494 7 жыл бұрын
In case I wasn't clear, I don't think previous people were morons for believing in this. Based on the more limited knowledge of time and the lack of the rigorous scientific method, these were rational to believe. Also, like the language many of the beliefs come from earlier ancestral or nearby tribes which explains the similarity; if they were all totally different that would require an explanation. Metaphysical concepts are often metaphorical as well, so they can be interpreted in many ways. That doesn't make them wrong because of that, but you have to look into how closely their concepts actually match scientific theory and take into consideration explanations that are at odds with it. I don't agree believe in something, even if it's not true, just because it's better for some reason. Denial of reality leads to problems. What exactly is better in this sense anyway? Is it really that if you and everyone don't believe you have a special place in the universe, you might as well slit your wrists in the bathtub?
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 7 жыл бұрын
Adrian KSM I think a thinking person must pass through the atheism phase to cleanse their perceptions before they can understand spirituality.
@RafaelArandas
@RafaelArandas 5 жыл бұрын
The Irish also believed in reincarnation...maybe many of the ancient European peoples as well. It is a very fascinating concept.
@nepalifighter5275
@nepalifighter5275 4 жыл бұрын
Mostly no, also ancient Hinduism lacked that idea. The belief in an afterlife/spirit world was common.
@ronalddunne3413
@ronalddunne3413 3 жыл бұрын
@@nepalifighter5275 Hinduism lacked belief in reincarnation? That's certainly news to anyone who has read the Bhagavad Gita. Reincarnation was certainly part of pre-Xian Celtic beliefs as we understand them. Ancient Greeks believed in an "after-life" which came to an end at some point and the person was reborn, swept clean of all memory of previous life..
@sakogekchyan7366
@sakogekchyan7366 6 жыл бұрын
This is not related to Indo-Europeans but I thought it would be interesting to bring up. The Yoruba of Nigeria have a theology that is very similar to Hinduism. It's almost eerie. The belief in a unity that underlies the multiplicity of things in the universe.👍🏼 The belief in multiple avatars that are manifestations of this higher reality.👍🏼 A belief in reincarnation.👍🏼 A belief similar to Karma.👍🏼 An ancient understanding of the existence of other planets.👍🏼
@alpachino7659
@alpachino7659 5 жыл бұрын
Aguanile mai mai
@arthurkoopmanswatercolors
@arthurkoopmanswatercolors 4 жыл бұрын
And Shango is the Nigerian Thor
@qarmatianwarhorse6028
@qarmatianwarhorse6028 2 жыл бұрын
@Store Patternator BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
@Jumpoable
@Jumpoable 2 жыл бұрын
@Store Patternator NO, because these are the CORE spiritual concepts of the Spiritual REALITY of our planet (& the multiverse) & all who dwell within it. It is the LAW.
@turicaederynmab5343
@turicaederynmab5343 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, I'm working hard at forging a spiritual path for myself that is adequately fulfilling, you and Varg have been at the forefront of this along with the poems and songs of my ancestors, and of course some academic literature.
@vetiarvind
@vetiarvind 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a hindu brahmin and yes, we have a gothra (or a name of lineage) that we must remember. Each gothra has characteristics, for instance, the one I belong to are supposed to be witty but rather hot-tempered. All the words like "name" or "rupa" are sanskrit in origin.
@joalexsg9741
@joalexsg9741 5 жыл бұрын
When we think of the Magi scriptures the Muslims destroyed it´s heartbreaking, one can only wonder the fantastic Indo-European connections those teachings must have kept, as the Magis seem to have had much in common with European pagan traditions! Parthians and Medes (both ancestors of the modern Kurdish tribes) must have had it in its pristine forms. Hinduism has fortunately preserved a lot of it but from what I heard from Hindu friends when I was on Facebook, only some special traditions have kept the true Indo-European spirit, which was very broad-minded and not given to sexual bias influenced by the patriarchal Abrahamic religions.
@joalexsg9741
@joalexsg9741 5 жыл бұрын
@CoD RocKz # Wild gaming Well, any religion changes through time, that´s a natural process any of them go through and some changes are for the better. However, to know what you call 'original Hinduism' one would have to pick one of its oldest, attested phases when it was not the common religion once shared by Iranian and Indian tribes, when there was not Zoroastrianism and Hinduism yet. In which sources do you rely on for your assertions, do you have any links to any accessible article available for free in English on this?
@joalexsg9741
@joalexsg9741 5 жыл бұрын
@CoD RocKz # Wild gaming Oh, you were referring to the Vedic period, ok, I get what you mean now. I've had Hindu friends on Facebook that would hint me on many topics of Hinduism approached from alternative perspectives, i.e. non mainstream. Even after I dropped out of FB I still use their tips as basis for my own web searches.
@SinghSaab62456
@SinghSaab62456 4 жыл бұрын
because of brahmin, lot of our people left sanatan dharma called as hindu, pagan, mithras and mayan. brahmin ruined these religion for there own greed, Vedas only truth but brahmin alway oppose vedas. too much brahmin supremacy make everybody leave the all these religion.
@SinghSaab62456
@SinghSaab62456 4 жыл бұрын
@Just another geek i didn't anything about there caste, all I was saying they feel superior then other, which is not the narrative of brahmin
@x13thmonkeyx18
@x13thmonkeyx18 7 жыл бұрын
Some important notes: 1. Hamingja is called Xvarenah (or Khvarenah) in Zoroastrianism. 2. Plato's view of the soul is different than of Buddhists, but very similar to Vaisnavas'. Please read Bhagavad-gita. I think the best translation is the one that translated by Hridayananda dasa Goswami. He's a real philosopher and theologian. At the same time he has great knowledge about Indo-European traditions. 3. Probably Sanskrit Gandharva has the same root with Greek Centauros. Thanks for the video.
@restlessresearcher1895
@restlessresearcher1895 7 жыл бұрын
Further note: contrary to 17:30 in the video, the Indian class system isn't tripartite but divided into 4: Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaishya, Shudra. Also at 8:14 daemon does indeed refer to a divine spirit, according to a very old source, Hesiod (Theogony, line 990).
@pranavathalye
@pranavathalye 6 жыл бұрын
Restless Researcher The early Hindu society during the Rigvedic (except Mandala X) and pre-Rigvedic times was divided into 3 classes. As the society becams more complex the 3rd class was split into two. This can still be seen from the name of the 3rd class Vaishya which literally means "of the vish(village)" i.e. villager or commoner. Later Vaishya referred to merchants and the commoners were then called Shudras. Very similar to how in post industrial society the eartswhile commoner class split into bourgeois and proletariat.
@TheShree909
@TheShree909 5 жыл бұрын
@@amannoobs what do you mean by 2 or 3 Upanishads instead of whole Gita?
@somaraja4858
@somaraja4858 5 жыл бұрын
pranav athalye Incorrect. It appears more likely that The three upper classes shared racial homogeneity as the Āryas, while the fourth class represent a separate racial population that was incorporated later. This is why the vaiśya possess the particular privilages of hi born Āryas; e. g. To study the Veda, perform sacrifices, and offer charity. This was never permitted to the śudras, and it is unlikely that the vaiśyas arose from this fourth class and acquired the dignities of a dvija later.
@GothRailfan
@GothRailfan 6 жыл бұрын
As a Platonist and Proto-Indo-European polytheist, I am a firm believer in reincarnation or as Plato calls it metempsychosis. "Cattle die, kindred die, you too shall also die: But I know one thing that never dies. The glory of the great dead." Best quote ever.
@apples-girl9210
@apples-girl9210 6 жыл бұрын
Godric of Gaul 🔥please explain this meaning?
@wolfodinson5303
@wolfodinson5303 5 жыл бұрын
Yes like (Beowulf)
@LittleDolfie
@LittleDolfie 4 ай бұрын
Dear Trans woman, do you know who Evola? And what kind of people read him? :) Pls do respond I am curious
@hansbismarck8412
@hansbismarck8412 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing, how is it things I’ve always felt has long been tradition of my people?
@abhimanyukarnawat7441
@abhimanyukarnawat7441 3 жыл бұрын
Your people as in indians?
@jasonmcguire358
@jasonmcguire358 3 жыл бұрын
4 winds
@jasonmcguire358
@jasonmcguire358 3 жыл бұрын
@@tehfuqizg0inon588 like RNA
@finnicpatriot6399
@finnicpatriot6399 3 жыл бұрын
tehfuq izg0inon Or idk, God and universal truth? Stop thinking in only materialistic terms.
@finnicpatriot6399
@finnicpatriot6399 3 жыл бұрын
tehfuq izg0inon Your original comment made it seem as if these traits developed within certain genes and only within them, not the point you're making right now.
@Maria-yr6yf
@Maria-yr6yf 7 жыл бұрын
Henlo Tom! Very good video again.
@Survivethejive
@Survivethejive 7 жыл бұрын
very good comment
@ShadyCharacter97
@ShadyCharacter97 7 жыл бұрын
It feels like there's a current that passes through the whole KZbin community here, and there's a convergence of views that gives me kind of a good feeling about the future. Thank you for doing such great videos.
@nataliebutler
@nataliebutler 3 жыл бұрын
That's the KZbin algorithm giving you more of what it knows you like.
@A_Koenig
@A_Koenig 7 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video, never stop making these! I've recently started exploring the Vedic tradition by reading the Bhagavadgita and I'm absolutely amazed at the deep sophistication of its teachings and their essential parralels to ancient European spirituality/philosophy.
@Savo1312
@Savo1312 7 жыл бұрын
We actually here in Macedonia bring food and drinks for our family members that have passed away on their graves.. I would have never guessed that, that tradition has roots so old.
@apples-girl9210
@apples-girl9210 6 жыл бұрын
RandAlThor 🌫Are Macedonians Greek?
@themobstar58
@themobstar58 4 жыл бұрын
@@apples-girl9210 it's a slavic thing
@davids3282
@davids3282 3 жыл бұрын
@@apples-girl9210 Not really, the area they live in was called i think by the romans macedonia for administrative purpouses, so maybe thats how the name stuck, but they dont have much in common with greeks, the tribes living there spoke latin before slavs settled there.
@nikolailitavr2502
@nikolailitavr2502 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I could like your videos twice man. I have shared a lot of your thoughts and insights but with your knowledge of Indo-European traditions you are able to highlight the truths and connections so well. A lot of what you are talking about also perfectly aligns with our modern understanding of physics, neuroscience and biology. It would be awesome to create some kind of intersectional work of art that highlights how this ancient esoteric knowledge of the metaphysical now relates to various fields of science and our understanding of the universe. This art could potentially be a blueprint for something like metareligion where our ancient traditions are brought back and melded with our scientific understanding of the world. Love your work man!
@a.abrine4992
@a.abrine4992 6 жыл бұрын
I hope that one day you will make a series of videos on the "Proto-Indo-European pantheon". Where will you tell us more about Dyaus Phater, Dheghom Mater, Perkwnos, Haeusos and the Diosenewes... What can be known about them, how their form evolved, what sacrifices were made to them, the esoteric knowledge that was attached to their power, etc. It would be a huge job but in view of what you did on Wodanaz, you're certainly the most competent person to realize it !
@johangrostkerck6046
@johangrostkerck6046 Жыл бұрын
Might Dyaus Phater be related to Tiwaz/Deiwoz? Tiwaz used to be the most revered god in antiquity, atleast before the Migration Period kicked off and war became a such central theme in culture that Thunroz, the Germanic god of war, became one of the most important gods (atleast afaik - I'm no expert)
@tfan2222
@tfan2222 Ай бұрын
@@johangrostkerck6046Thunraz was already an important god (and goes all the way back to the days of a singular Indo-European people). But yes, you’re correct: Tiw is related name and formerly role to say, Zeus or Jupiter. Woden took his place, not Thunraz.
@1950sTardigrade
@1950sTardigrade Жыл бұрын
this was my favorite thing ever. as a christian proto-indo-european reconstructionist, this led me to the understanding of spirit reincarnation
@KortovElphame
@KortovElphame 7 жыл бұрын
about time you Europeans embrace your Traditions .
@svarog8126
@svarog8126 6 жыл бұрын
nope
@atomicdawg100
@atomicdawg100 5 жыл бұрын
Indo/europeans and aboriginal/europeans were different peoples and different cultures... indo european culture originated on the central asian steppe not in europe
@cocopus
@cocopus 5 жыл бұрын
should be the same for the rest of the world...
@user-nk4fv5ej1c
@user-nk4fv5ej1c 5 жыл бұрын
@@atomicdawg100 And then they moved into europe and established new nations. If you want to go back, both the PIE Europeans and indo Europeans came from Africa.
@atomicdawg100
@atomicdawg100 5 жыл бұрын
יעקב בארק very true..
@simonh1791
@simonh1791 5 жыл бұрын
This channel is awesome. Followed you from a distance on twitter for a while, however have only recently become truly interested in anglo-saxon paganism and possibly practicing it. There's so much for me to learn coming at this from a completely ignorant starting point. Thank you so much for compiling the content you have, helps people like me who have been lost for so long get truly in touch with our roots. I will be going through every single video you've uploaded. Keep up the great work!
@1337Gameplayer
@1337Gameplayer 6 жыл бұрын
Truly enlightening. Great video, as always!
@aidanhryc6334
@aidanhryc6334 7 жыл бұрын
You make very high quality videos about really esoteric things. Very much respect to you and your channel. Keep it up.
@seanranklin2733
@seanranklin2733 6 жыл бұрын
You deserve a lot more subscribers! Nice videos, thankyou.
@eucalyptblaze
@eucalyptblaze 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great video! It's something I've also been thinking about recently, so it was good to see this video come up. I was reminded also of Collin Cleary's essay on countercurrents on the metaphysics of Indo-European tripartition. You have the best channel!
@Diederikk
@Diederikk 7 жыл бұрын
I think those not open to the spiritual side of reincarnation should at least realise they are but a bridge between their ancestors and their offspring, of which they are borrowing that which their ancestors gave them. What then will their children do but inherit that which they leave behind? A purely material approach to reincarnation. Without your ancestors, you would not be. Not only biologically, but everything material about you. In that same sense your children will allow you to join the long list of your ancestors. That is how, without spiritual thought required, a strong connection can be made. What is more meaningful than adopting the ways of your ancestors and allowing their blood to flow again in ever newer generations who in turn do the same, and in that way, to live forever?
@Atlas_21
@Atlas_21 7 жыл бұрын
Very nicely said!
@louisr8732
@louisr8732 5 жыл бұрын
"That is how, without spiritual required, a strong connection can be made." I completely agree with what you said, except for this part. I think this concept of ancestors and offspring (which both span across space, time and matter in a sense that you personally will never be able to) is actually profoundly spiritual. Our relationship to this reality which lies almost beyond our imagintion is hard to define as anything other than spiritual I believe.
@conradopadula3347
@conradopadula3347 5 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Brazil.
@SR-yz9tg
@SR-yz9tg 5 жыл бұрын
That is what Julius Evola discerned as a feminine and telluric way of “eternal life”, and the way you put it makes it sound like Diotima of Martinea viewed eternal life or in this case reincarnation in Plato’s works such as “Symposium”, definitely a very mediocre way of comprehending transcendence
@LittleDolfie
@LittleDolfie 4 ай бұрын
​@@SR-yz9tgwhat did Evola say about the Masculine? I think of him highly I would like to learn what he approved of
@cidv4075
@cidv4075 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of your best videos and it's great you integrated the work of others. Thanks for sharing
@Armdfg
@Armdfg 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. This is a very complicated topic, and yet you managed to fully understand it and to explain it in a way everybody can easily understand. Keep up the good work!
@westernman7715
@westernman7715 7 жыл бұрын
More great work. An interesting topic to cover at some point would be the Irish síd mounds and the similarities between the 'síd beings' and the 'elves' of old Norse myth, (Roman numina also resemble these). Their seems to be an overarching belief in a parallel supernatural race among the indo European people, a fascinating topic
@krispalermo8133
@krispalermo8133 3 жыл бұрын
A root cellar reinforce interior with stack stone, then cover in turf. Centuries later people resettle the area to farm again called the earlier people's food storage shed a " fairy " mound. Sorry I learn my intellectual dismisness in grade school back in the 1980's dealing with Southern Baptists bull crap derogatory disregards towards other people's beliefs. I got paddled a lot in Sunday school. Case in point, depending on how much land and cash you work have to work with. Create a hut, .. a.) place a marking post into the ground, tie a rope to it and walk a eight to 12 ft circle around the post marking the ground. Then dig a trench outside the circle and stack/ pack the dirt to create a foundation base for the hut. Buying or free hauling any local flat field stone will help. b.) Land clear a bunch of shrub tree growth and use that to build the hut walls/ roof as an over size wicker basket, follow with a mud plaster. Then you have a sleeping area which humans have lived in for thousand of years. I always had strange/ weird dreams in the one I built as a teenager. 2.) Spiritual energies, .. a.) Current theory what I have been hearing for the pass 30 years, concrete/ asphalt blocks " nature/ natural " energies. And stone out lasts wood and stores mental energy longer. Such thing as " healing " crystals, and there use to be sad lonely fire place hearths. The stone remembers the person. b.) In old foundations in Europe and a few in the Americas there was a spot in the basement or cabin that had an arm length narrow pit lined to stone. It was used to Draw up Earth energy or to make offerings to the Under World to their ancestors. c.) As for the hut, remove the floor turf, dig just below the top soil and create a stone eight spoke medicine wheel lined with the North Star cause the ancients didn't know of the magnetic north pole. Cover the wheel with about a foot of pack dirt. The center of the hut/ medicine wheel is where you keep your cooking/ warming fire. Then get ready to have a bunch of imaginary visitors showing up. Nut job Jesus freaks nearly see, blame, claim that the devil is everywhere haunting them. Or always being visited by angels. Now you have something called " knockers " fairy, imp, what nots or children spirits. Most times I just have squirrels dropping down on my roof or a bird flying into my front door window. Other times I hear a loud banging knock and nothing is outside my door. 3.) Build at your discretion, cause once something come into your life, they do not leave. Humans are great sports for fun & games. a.) Believe nothing and there is no " science " equipment to record or back anything. Importantly tell no one new or did not help you build the hut what is under the floor. b.) People will express what ever they view/ vision base on their own cultural background belief, some will just feel calm or have the hair on the back of their necks stand on end. Honestly is Sleep/ Dream Research even a logical sound scientific study or just bull crap to get grant money in the same line as " ghost hunters." Religion : there is different levels to reality and my holy book is The Truth on such things. Science/ cough" fictions : Well we do know about vibrational frequencies and a lot of strange thing have been witness which neither religion nor current science can explain. So I'm going to build my own test lab and see how people react being inside of the hut and around it. Hope you have a good weekend, and maybe a good laugh. Gods bless.
@judeross3875
@judeross3875 2 жыл бұрын
@@krispalermo8133 Wow thank you so much for sharing. I am blown away and have tingles like I've been there before in the roundhouse xx
@krispalermo8133
@krispalermo8133 2 жыл бұрын
@@judeross3875 For a brief moment and think about the .. odds .. of you finding my post, that in of it's self is a bit magical. Hope you had a good weekend and G*D bless.
@judeross3875
@judeross3875 2 жыл бұрын
@@krispalermo8133 Ah thank you and to you. I drew a picture of what I imagine your hut to be over a year ago!! There is magic I believe at play!! I always imagined my roundhouse to be made from cob walls but interestingly I currently live in a beautiful terraced old miner's stone family cottage. Still has the old coal shed and outside working loo in the back yard complete with hatch. Who knows one day for me I keep looking at that picture I drew and my relationship with stones and our mother earth. I too may sleep in my own built round house. Blessings to you and thank you for the inspiration xx
@BasedLink
@BasedLink 7 жыл бұрын
This description of the soul is eerily similar to much of psychoanalytic literature's description of being, and the mind. It is amazing yet a bit sad to realize that our people understood these things thousands of years ago but that we've completely forgotten them.
@adityatyagi4009
@adityatyagi4009 6 жыл бұрын
The truth can be most found in the Vedic (aka "Hindu") tradition in the most highly developed form.
@julianhe7348
@julianhe7348 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is truly amazing and heavily underestimated by many! Thanks for your work it's absolutely inspiring ☺️🙏🙏🙏
@alcmaeon9
@alcmaeon9 7 жыл бұрын
You ve made your self perfectly clear brother. We need more people like you. Keep up the great work! Εβίβα ἀδελφέ
@ceawlinofwessex6607
@ceawlinofwessex6607 7 жыл бұрын
excellent video thank you for all of your work. *I raise a midnight horn of Mead to all my fellow brothers !!!!!*
@richard3854
@richard3854 7 жыл бұрын
I found the three elements of soul very interesting. Great video!
@RicBennett
@RicBennett 7 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly informative. Some of the beliefs are utterly profound. Subscribed!
@travisaurand7550
@travisaurand7550 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your work I've been chasing this for a very long time.
@belligerentmovement8
@belligerentmovement8 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. Will be sharing your vids.
@colemanneilson915
@colemanneilson915 5 жыл бұрын
When he is speaking at the very end of reincarnation being constant, I always use the seasons as a way to visualize this. Firstly, he mentions that we should not imagine reincarnated as something restarting but instead being constant, as the divine in us is constant. Imagine then that just as there is permanent divine element amplifying itself to several bodies as they are born and die, so does our life on earth travel through the seasons or summer and winter. We do not die in winter but are witness to this death. Another way to see it is that the seasons always return, it is not the exact same season as last year, but in its essence and energy the season is a thing which has returned. Therefore even though we die on earth, we do return, not identical as before, but the same in essence and energy. Nothing in this universe is wasted.
@vrilgoldenage2353
@vrilgoldenage2353 7 жыл бұрын
Mate your channel is something we all needed, cheers!
@fabioartuso321
@fabioartuso321 7 жыл бұрын
Very good video, thank you for your efforts; you deserve respect even just for the references to Evola and Guenon ;-)
@elisabethsphilosophy6459
@elisabethsphilosophy6459 7 жыл бұрын
Very good video! This is just the topic i like. How i see this is, i could explain quite simple. We have an finite life, just the physical human. And that one is pretty much only concerned with survival in the finite physical life. And then we have an 'higher being'. The consciousness you could say. And to reach the highest potential of that, you have to act out on integrity in your physical life. Because that way you learn the most. Maybe we are all extensions of the universe. The universe is consciousness. If the universe wants to understand itself. It has to see itself from out of as much perspectives as possible. Maybe thats why we humans have tools to perceive and even judge. The brain and senses. I think the more you act on integrity (we all have this feeling that tells us the way) the faster you learn, the more the universe 'expands' in all knowing. Often when somebody had a near death experience, they tell that they had an all understanding of everything.. Maybe because the consciousness of one person then blended in with the one big bunch of consciousness of all. I btw very much agree with plato, you should not repress your physical kind of being. Just try to understand it, and order it properly. Get it indeed in harmony with you 'higher being'. If we as humans get this physical being, i believe 'the universe' wants us to experience it. Not repress it.
@Survivethejive
@Survivethejive 7 жыл бұрын
interesting angle. thanks
@HijabifiedModesty
@HijabifiedModesty 6 жыл бұрын
Have you both ever looked into Dr.William Pierce's Cosmotheism explanation? It's very similar to what Elisabeth mentions here.
@aodh_ruadh
@aodh_ruadh 6 жыл бұрын
I actually agree with you Elisabeth we cannot reject our earthly desires. It is easy for the Buddhist monks to do it because they are provided for nutritionally and financially. Unlike our hunter gatherer forbears who had to live from meal to meal, day to day. They were hunters and warriors both, when they could seek glory and honour. That coupled with their short life span they must have lived great lives, if they were great enough perhaps they transcended being reincarnated enough times. Interesting thoughts, loved the video Tom.
@TruthHurts907
@TruthHurts907 3 жыл бұрын
Not that he's a role model, but this reminded me of Crowley's mantra 'do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law'. I think you may be onto something.
@carolinesmyth127
@carolinesmyth127 3 жыл бұрын
From what I've understood so far, I came to the same conclusions. It's very empowering to hear this from real intellectuals. Thanks again Tom for a wonderful presentation 🙏
@CuFhoirthe88
@CuFhoirthe88 4 жыл бұрын
I watched this video once when it was newer, neophyte redpill, I then went back a bit to JBP (algorithm picked up liked him and recommended your Neitzsche video). Then I went and binge-watched your channel, at various stages. Through that I came to reading Evola's Revolt Against the Modern World and The Mystery of the Grail, and later through you I've found Dharma nation and discovered more about the Vedic tradition, including the Bhagavad Gita and such scriptures in my reading. I recently started reading a series of four articles on counter-currents by Collin Cleary on Vedanta. I have prior sources on such subjects myself before though, through Plato's Republic (the myth of Er was really compelling to me as well). I came back to this video after reading part II of those articles. It was a good choice as you've cleared quite bit of this up for me. I can always come back to these for a refresher on any Aryan spirituality, Aryanity, if you will. That's why they're so good.
@Survivethejive
@Survivethejive 4 жыл бұрын
so glad my work is helpful for you
@woodendforager3240
@woodendforager3240 3 жыл бұрын
so reassuring to see this vid. I've just been binging your videos about migrations / invasions after discovering your channel, and thought "man this guy makes some good vids but the science / DNA stuff, sounds a bit phrenological, maybe he is completely rational and disregards spiritual notions". Then saw this and it is so reassuring, the universe saying "you are not alone!" Thanks man.
@erickruger6604
@erickruger6604 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. By making the comparisons among the various IE branches it helps to clarify what the ancient terms for the soul actually meant.
@JamieHumeCreative
@JamieHumeCreative 6 жыл бұрын
Really very interesting. An appreciated compact flurry of information. Thank you
@TheHeartmindsoul
@TheHeartmindsoul 6 жыл бұрын
I find your lecture fascinating and yes, enlightening as well.I really appreciate your videos.
@RodM.Peters
@RodM.Peters 5 жыл бұрын
You've pulled together many interesting threads in a very cogent way, and for that I just subscribed. You will take a major step towards greater understanding of the matter if you come to grips with an admittedly hard concept to grasp, namely, that very likely, all incarnations are simultaneous. That means, you're already ALL those alternate selves living different and rich experiences of the universe, and that, very likely, the main magnun opus, the major task, is to reconnect to those literally lost brothers and sisters of yours, the actual lost tribe concept, in a way to integrate into your higher self, immesurably enriching your current somewhat alienated status. This is of paramount importance and there's sources pointing to that direction (I didn't just make it all up). You might want to reasearch the concept that we are all part of a "fractured soul", one infinetely greater and wiser, but that, like the prodigal son, we must find our way back to the "father" (better yet, the higher self, regardless of whether that higher self is akin to a Wothan-like entity, or a Loki-like entity, or any number of other possible archetypes) and out of the exile (you might call it the big disconnect) created by the ego.
@mckeamish
@mckeamish 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother. Keep spreading the word. I hope a thousand people find this video and they share it with a thousand more. This is a really good explanation reincarnation, using ALL of the classical sources. I hope we all drink in wallhalla together after this meat dream. I’ll do my best that’s for damn sure.
@willianwatzko899
@willianwatzko899 7 жыл бұрын
Very good video. I have to thank all day since I found your channel.
@DouglasTimes
@DouglasTimes 5 жыл бұрын
That was deep. I’m going to have to rewatch this one
@belligerentmovement8
@belligerentmovement8 7 жыл бұрын
Just watched Acharya's video on the three Vedic Paths, Vaishava, Shaiva, Shakta and then clicked upon STJ for the three parts of the Soul: even though we have a racial soul and it may be important to us and to the integrity of our various cultures politics and society in general it is not the Ultimate. Great to see STJ using a very holistic view of indo European and other (Buddhism) religion to piece together the ultimate truths that can be found in our more Odinistic past. Love it. It satisfies my ancestral racial soul and helps to redeem and renew it whilst keeping my hearts eye on the Ultimate prize.
@mattias6139
@mattias6139 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding info and work man.
@maceain
@maceain 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent summary, well done. I expect, and hope, a book on this theme shall follow.
@jphilology7357
@jphilology7357 4 жыл бұрын
This - one of the best on reincarnation ever produced online! Thank you!!!
@lilaschwarz6014
@lilaschwarz6014 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. I am finally beginning to get hold of some spiritual aspects of the life of "my people".
@ghostkitty8988
@ghostkitty8988 5 жыл бұрын
I love your channel, so informative
@BirkaViking
@BirkaViking 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic interesting video again Tom. Greetings from Södermanland
@Orourkebanjo
@Orourkebanjo 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great upload!
@lullabi3234
@lullabi3234 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Bloody Perfect video. Just triggered such a Hard Deep Revelation into my personal composition and background. I feel like the experience of Epiphany upon recitation of some central Pagan precepts makes a damn fine testament to the authenticity of Spiritual Value on this path. I thank you. And Evola, of course!
@mattimaunu
@mattimaunu 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool! thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@garytucker5748
@garytucker5748 7 жыл бұрын
Love this guy,spot on mr Rowsell,respect bro.
@demensvgc
@demensvgc 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! As a Greek and a Classics student, though, I feel the need to point out that in ancient Greek the suffix "-ικος" doesn't add the meaning of "little" to the word (that would be other suffixes such as "-ιον", "-αριον" etc). It rather means someone/something that is "pertaining to" the meaning of the stem of the word.
@Semiogogue
@Semiogogue 7 жыл бұрын
Great clip. Thanks! Don't forget to throw the Muse of history (Clio) in with your mnemonic chains related to fame or being 'heard of'. Also, you might enjoy stitching the Roman household gods into your consideration. You already covered the 'Genius' (tied of course to gens, and hence originally associated with a given family line rather than an individual, until the time of Augustus, as I recall). But you should also have a look at Lares and the dii familiares proper such as the Penates, and perhaps most importantly the Manes. Given that these latter are never referred to in the singular you might enjoy adding them to your framework of consideration (i.e. those who do not attain to fama). Lastly, I would point you towards the Artes Memorativae, which were about much, much more than rhetoric - particularly given the way we've seen that there were certain gods associated with certain parts of a house...
@decapitatedfairy234
@decapitatedfairy234 2 жыл бұрын
I am late to the party but- I can’t quite believe this video, I grew up in an atheist/ christian family, and even as a little girl I had ideas about the soul and reincarnation, that I never discussed with anyone. watching this video I am so shocked, my ideas align almost exactly, I have never, ever in my life had these ideas verbalised back to me, Thankyou so much for this video!
@kiwikiwikwikiwi
@kiwikiwikwikiwi 7 жыл бұрын
This was a very interesting and well made video! I have nothing to add on the information and sources you used, but I have a word of advice when reading out loud from a book. Try to go slowly and emphasize the subjects and verbsin the sentences. This allows a listener to follow the general meaning of the passage MUCH easier!
@EyeOfWoden
@EyeOfWoden 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Thomas!
@TheAureusPress
@TheAureusPress 7 жыл бұрын
amazing - excellent - important work you're doing
@fizeekpoaster
@fizeekpoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Very enlightening and interesting. I wish I had found this video three years ago when it came out, but alas I may not have been ready for it then. It makes a lot of sense to me now though.
@theelderscrollsfreak
@theelderscrollsfreak 7 жыл бұрын
Glad Varg recommended this channel.
@joalexsg9741
@joalexsg9741 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Taoist/Shamanist with very eclectic stands and have always loved Druidry and Scandinavian shamanism, our concept of the Primordial Nature has very much to do with Plato´s world of ideas in a certain sense and would be interpreted as the Source of all Wonders, the very Source of Magic itself, at least in the older, shamanic view of the concept, which can be traced back to the Yellow Emperor´s phase of shamanic Taoism, with links to extraterrestrial legends of Immortals from the Stars. For one who has been interested in Indo-European ancestral spiritualities and languages for decades, this is a must download, sharing and thank you so much for this!!
@cincoy3679
@cincoy3679 4 жыл бұрын
Jo Alex Sg It’s good that everyone is different. Fight because there people out there that won’t us all to be the same. That’s way there so much war today. God help us all. To stop them. Are we all will be so bored it will be the end of life on earth.
@celteuskara
@celteuskara 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent work, many thanks! Just thought I'd add that *klewos is seen also in Slavonic "slovo" and "slava" - word and glory. This branch of Indo-Europeans even take their name from this concept of fame. Mention might also be made of Germanic name elements like Hlew- and Hlod- (as in the early runic Hlewagastaz and Clovis/Louis/Ludwig etc.).
@daca8395
@daca8395 4 жыл бұрын
Slavs have simmilar concepst: Um-mind Duh-spirit (literally the ghost) Duša-the soul
@kshu3onku505
@kshu3onku505 6 жыл бұрын
In this video I finally understood what soul is. What being is and what religion meant when explaining being in that manner. Thank you thank you thank you.
@topophil
@topophil 5 жыл бұрын
What a great video. Thank you so much
@angelorumXIV
@angelorumXIV 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome information and very eloquently shared. Thank you!
@Survivethejive
@Survivethejive Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@hsram1985
@hsram1985 6 жыл бұрын
"He is the Soul of the Universe; He is Immortal; His is the Rulership; He is the Allknowing, the All-pervading, the Protector of the Universe, the Eternal Ruler. None else is there efficient to govern the world eternally. He who at the beginning of creation projected Brahmâ (i.e. the universal consciousness), and who delivered the Vedas unto him - seeking liberation I go for refuge unto that effulgent One, whose light turns the understanding towards the Âtman." Shvetâshvatara-Upanishad Sanatan dharma/Hinduism says you soul(Atman) is eternal and unborn.Atman(soul)will born again and again to improve and experience all that life has to offer and finally merge into Brahman(supreme infinite consciousness, who is god of the hindus) when soul liberated and realized the true self.
@MekTS
@MekTS 2 жыл бұрын
I could swear that Julius Ceaser specifically mentioned that the Gauls had a belief in reincarnation which was key on why they were considered so fearless in battle. I could be misremembering. I certainly was surprised when I first read about it.
@micksimmons8827
@micksimmons8827 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very valuable insight as my wife and I reflect on these ideas
@alkaajani1083
@alkaajani1083 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for sharing this
@askyle8421
@askyle8421 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible insight!
@ML-mu2qr
@ML-mu2qr 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video. Lots of wisdom
@jkb1O5
@jkb1O5 5 жыл бұрын
Netti Netti : ) thanks mate! Great Stuff
@Countcordeaux
@Countcordeaux 7 жыл бұрын
The Doctrine of Awakening was my conversion experience.
@Helvetorment
@Helvetorment 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always incredible. I was just reading some of Plato's books and i'm wondering if you agree with the greek concept of Anamnesis, which is totally related to the topic of Reincarnation.
@TruthHurts907
@TruthHurts907 3 жыл бұрын
Would make sense...sounds like amnesia, which fits.
@TheGiantRobot
@TheGiantRobot 3 жыл бұрын
This common theme of three is really interesting to me. I was shown once during worship that the world is made of three parts: vibration, sensation, and God. When the vibration touches sensation, perception arises, which is louder than knowledge, and God no longer sees itself/ourself but sees the illusion of the material and spiritual worlds.
@Hordalending
@Hordalending 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting subject, and professionally and thoroughly explained by you. But what are your thought on the modern past life regression therapies?
@DrEnginerd1
@DrEnginerd1 6 ай бұрын
Very good presentation
@angriff6308
@angriff6308 7 жыл бұрын
Do you think Rta corresponds to Ørlög in the Norse mythology? Fantastic video, thanks for this!
@Survivethejive
@Survivethejive 7 жыл бұрын
it is closer to OE Wyrd I think
@missminx6984
@missminx6984 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant explanation
@behappy8248
@behappy8248 5 жыл бұрын
Hinduism is the only Indo-European religion which survives with a significant population.
@theawakeningtraditionalist5891
@theawakeningtraditionalist5891 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, as always. Interesting how these three elements of human consciousness seem to be reflected in the physical structure of the Triune Brain- with the lowest level reptilian brain as the seat of the lowest level, and the neocortex with the highest. Some of these thoughts also exist within Christian mysticism and the early Church (obviously brought in from Platonism)- the overcoming of sin, for instance, could be seen merely as the higher self attempting to control the lower; and the higher self (gnosis, mind) somehow cognisant of the Universal mind- God.
@sylwiamiauek9755
@sylwiamiauek9755 7 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@ZoroarkChampion
@ZoroarkChampion 3 жыл бұрын
The idea of the tripartite soul present in the original indo-european tradition is very interesting and I would like to read more about it. Can you recommend any sources/interesting books?
@Dystisis
@Dystisis 7 жыл бұрын
The pagan view of the 'soul' always seemed more Aristotelian than Platonistic, to me, whereas Christianity is closely tied to the Platonistic or even Cartesian conception. The Platonic / Cartesian conception of the soul divides sharply between animal sensation, feeling, and movement, on the one hand, and thought or mind on the other. The Aristotelian conception, however, sees the intelligence already in the practical, emotional and sensitive. So just as the pagan does not distinguish between a spiritual and material world, the Aristotelian does not divide man into a purely physical and a purely mental entity. Aristotelian virtues are at once intellectual, spiritual, and practical.
@LittleDolfie
@LittleDolfie 4 ай бұрын
Interesting. I would like to read more on this
@ianmckenzie4089
@ianmckenzie4089 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Celtic Christian and love this spiritual stuff. My beliefs teach me to avoid the first or carnal life, to aspire to the second or conscious life and finally to achieve the third or spiritual life. To look toward rebirth in the new earth where all chattels of the old physical material body is overcome. Not much different my friend except I follow Christ as my spiritual teacher. Elohim bless you sir!
@mariogalante7
@mariogalante7 4 жыл бұрын
Best channel in the whole KZbin
@shanekonarson
@shanekonarson 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant ! Thankyou
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