Rejects talk about Chaos Space Marines (rare dialogue)

[@theinternetpolice2078]

"Surely, the blessed Adeptus Astartes are too pure to be corrupted?" "Zealot I literally got instruction on how to deal with traitor marines when I joined the Guard"

[@elementz301]

And those instructions were "hope you have a full company or else you die"

[@biggumstevens1784]

@@elementz301 more like "grab a shield and prepare to be invincible to all damage, then poke them with a bayonet about 5 times and watch them die" if they are anything like space marine 2.

[@angeleaterstudios1004]

​@@biggumstevens1784 To be fair, you're playing as a Primaris going against corrupted first born. Especially a heresy era first born. The gap between them is like comparing a spec ops soldier to Captain America.

[@sergiogrys4925]

Cutthroat veteran: "I have fought the traitor Astartes. Pray you never see one"

[@olknoxlo]

More "I have heard stories about those who may have fought traitor Astartes" But you can headcannon what you want.

[@Rosa_0000]

@@olknoxlo guardsmen barely ever see normal Astartes, much less the 10.000 years old corrupted marines that walked with the Emperor. Most people have no clue that these marines were a thing, and the ones that do probably only think them to be myths and never expect to actually see one. Not sure if the Uplifting Primer says anything about them, but even if they do, it would be total bullshit like "yeah engage Khorne Berserkers in melee, those guys can barely swing an axe"

[@generik7414]

Reminder that ogryns actually consistently beat space marines if they can make it to melee, and only struggle at range because they rarely if ever aim.

[@CoffeeFiend1]

As Ogryn I reject these hurtful stereotypes. We big brain users, higher cognitive faculties and the like.

[@Darkangelnum1]

They are indeed quite strong however what the abhumans lack is finesse A threat to be sure but manageable

[@jalpat2272]

And Thunder warriors could fold them like accordion, Astrates power is in their longevity rather than brute force.

[@silent_stalker3687]

Genestealer breaks into APC Has spent centuries adapting to take on the Guard. Finds Ogryns. Edit a month later Yeah i forgot this happened in The Spiral Dawn book

[@PwnzorBob]

@@JohnWarhammer0 Not sure about the current edition, but in the tabletop ogryns usually outperform space marines in terms of strength, toughness and wounds, which gives them a statistical advantage in melee combat rolls. Fluff-wise, it depends on the writer. There's a section in Dark Apostle where an ogryn tackles a Chaos Marine in Terminator armor and smashes his head in with a ripper gun, then grabs another CSM and slams him headfirst into the ground.

[@KRIMZONMEKANISM]

I love how a diverse Darktide squad (1 Psyker+ 1 Ogryn + 1 Zealot + 1 Veteran) can, "realistically" fight back against a single Space Marine. They could easily give us a boss fight with one. Just as long as it is NOT a freaking Death Guard Astartes, they should be fine.

[@snappedsquire8479]

We're fighting Nurgle worshippers, if a Chaos Marine shows up it's almost guaranteed to be a Death Guard

[@Jester4460]

@@snappedsquire8479 maybe special asignment boss

[@sofija1996]

​@@snappedsquire8479 And if it's not Death Guard itself, it's still a Nurgle-aligned Astartes warband with all the insane resilience and nastiness that ent(r)ails.

[@meltdown4126]

It's going to be a Plague Marine or something similar, if we ever get there. And it'd be the only option that would make sense from the game mechanic standpoint too, since "normal" Astartes, traitor or not, are supposed to be lightning fast and Darktide generally adheres to the "bigger=slower" design philosphy

[@Resi1ience]

@@meltdown4126 I dunno, Rinda Karnak is pretty damn fast.

[@Shot5hells]

I love the accent this veteran voice has. It sounds mostly English but occasionally there’s hints of this New Zealand/Australian/South African vowel shift. Like when she says “Dead” in this clip, it’s kind of a “deed” sound.

[@LoRdInTeRwEbS]

It's a brum accent from Birmingham

[@SirSaladhead]

@@LoRdInTeRwEbS Keep a bab on what you're blabbering

[@LoRdInTeRwEbS]

@@SirSaladhead that's what it is though

[@Shot5hells]

@@LoRdInTeRwEbS That seems accurate otherwise, but I can't find any examples of that dialect where the "e" sound in words like "dead" is pronounced as an elongated "ii" in the same way we do in NZ. The veteran voice definitely does have that quirk in it though

[@squiddgy]

just birmingham literally

[@Nick-bk7es]

'Smart' Ogryns are terrifying because they're purely natural and stronger than Space Marines in melee..

[@therandomlaniusedward2140]

In one warhammer novel one inquisitor had a smart ogryn that was also a psyker. Yes, Psyker ogryn.

[@yeet_the_heat6328]

Considering how Saber and Focus treated the Hive Tyrant fight in SM2, that might be a way to create a Chaos Marine boss in Darkride: Creating a trap that was supposed to kill the Marines but one survives so heavily wounded that your squad has a chance.

[@jaredmccain7555]

Also would work best if it was just one marine as a boss.

[@cute_smol_kat]

reminder that fartshart stated there would never be astartes in darktide, you need to understand that the presence of even a single one would change their entire narrative

[@aaronlaughter6471]

I mean in actual lore anyone can kill a space marine, hell some normal.guy with a sharp stick was able to kill one in the horus heresy, his team even said if it wasn't so pathetic it would have been hilarious.

[@anotherage8758]

Primaris helemt got penetrated by rebar lol. 4 Veterans with plasma can melt Chaos SM pretty quick

[@ASingleSpaghetti]

Remember that time Ciaphas Cain (a regular guy) fought a Hive Tyrant with a chainsword?

[@LoRdInTeRwEbS]

CSM and guard are an interesting interaction. On one hand, guardsmen are probably executed (if they survive) afterwards since Astartes are treated as angels and seeing them corrupted goes against a lot of imperial propaganda. On the other hand, they still need guardsmen to fight and protect and i suppose it's not really a secret what happened to Cadia.

[@ГенадийСамобранцев]

In commissar Cain 3rd book guardsmen face world-eaters on several separate occasions, and thats just a tip of the iceberg, cuz in the finale of the book they straight up banish a slaanesh demon in its summoning chamber, and they aren't executed after that

[@LoRdInTeRwEbS]

@@ГенадийСамобранцев well yeah, he's a named character lol

[@ГенадийСамобранцев]

@@LoRdInTeRwEbS not talking about Cain. He's with 579th Valhalla regiment, and a squad from Tallarn regiment as well as their commissar. all of these guardsmen are present as they follow closely behind a 5-man world eater squad, and all of them, as well as the rest of a valhallan unit deployed witness the slaaneshi demon and banish it. Not even a word about guardsmen encountering khornites/demon after that and Im pretty sure I will read more about 579th in later cain books

[@Avera9eWh1teShark6]

Not necessarily. In Pandorax the first half of the book was Death guard versus the Catachan Jungle Fighters, and early on, a mere four Jungle Fighters ambushed three Plague Marines, basically fighting them 1v1, and killed them all with no losses. It wasn't until later when daemons showed up when Grey Knights and Dark Angels arrived to even the fight. Even then, none of the remaining Guard regiments were executed. They just had their minds wiped, but they were even given time to pay final respects to their fallen comrades.

[@axios4702]

They aren't, cadians deal with them often for example and they show up on manuals about how to handle them. The answer to that is artillery btw. If your religion has angels, there of course will be fallen ones.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

I want a boss fight thats just one Chaos Marine and he's the toughest boss in the game so bad.

[@maximivanov4851]

imagine fighting a Khornite in a tight chapel

[@bloodwriter1]

Just imagine that one day there will be nurgle’s space marines as enemies. That should be fun

[@slyllamademon2652]

Ogryn: Traitor Marines? Very Tough. (Ogryn can beat space marines in a fight)

[@peterclarke7240]

I think they mean "very tough to chew." Or they're just being humble, because they're good bois.

[@illuminatecentral]

Oh yes. Very tough. Lots of muscle.

[@olknoxlo]

Ogryn can beat space marine in a fight? Maybe in a wrestling match. Any book where an Astartes faces a Ogryn its a story about a dead ogryn.

[@peterclarke7240]

@@olknoxlo "maybe in a wrestling match..." I mean... That's pretty important, don't you think? Look, I'm not disparaging your precious Super Eunuchs, I'm just pointing out that anyone who can beat them in a wrestling match is probably pretty bad ass. Also, we know very well that almost all the lore, including the books, is written from the Imperium's, and specifically the Astartes' perspective. The Unreliable Narrator is writ large in 40k lore. Best not to take it too seriously. It is satire, after all.

[@vanillaicecream2385]

@@olknoxlo its like hulk vs thanos, yes an ogryn is stronger than a marine but the marine will collapse their throat with a swift punch and dodge all the attacks they throw back

[@fatwheat1]

Its upsetting that Vermintide had Chaos warriors popping in and they were considered the big baddies when they were first seen. I really wish in darktide, a chaos space marine would enter the fight. Like the assassination missions are a joke as it is. 4 geared players on damnation can wipe the floor with the end boss in seconds.

[@nodosa994]

Can't say the same about the Karnak Twins in the hardest difficulty

[@fatwheat1]

@@nodosa994 Honestly those are a different story. The pox gas i feel like is the worst added feature to the game xD

[@jiyuhong5853]

We’ll talk to the nearest Cadian or Hanz, they will tell you that falling is not just possible but already happened

[@lmap05_REAL]

I want them to put an unwinnable fight against a chaos space marine because I constantly hear darktide players asking why they don't put space marines as enemies in the game because they think they'd be easy.

[@LoRdInTeRwEbS]

I mean, we have plasma guns and bolters, we'd be ok

[@martindovah3810]

​@@LoRdInTeRwEbSWe wouldn't be helpless, but I think we'd be far from okay.

[@HappyHog11]

@@LoRdInTeRwEbSI mean realistically the Space Marine has put a bolter round through the entire squad’s foreheads before they’ve gotten a shot off.

[@internetuser320]

@@HappyHog11yeah the problem isn’t that the guardsman can’t kill a space marine. It’s just the space marine will kill them before they got the chance

[@HappyHog11]

@@internetuser320 for sure. Fire power isn’t the issue, it’s just that we’d never be able to use it

[@UtkanZaman]

the atmosphere of this game is amazing!

[@flashn00b]

Would be cool if a Chaos Space Marine were added as a fourth monstrosity. We've always saw them as armored mooks in other games, but I imagine that they'd be a much harder foe to a group of disgruntled hive world citizens with nothing to lose and a bolter to gain

[@krossbow789]

meanwhile in rogue trader: My human in non-powered metal armor with a primitive non-power sword bonks chaos marines to death in a single turn. (Note this is HIGHLY lore innacurate)

[@bluntblade6887]

My players who used psykers could do the same barehanded. It also typically killed them… and everyone within a one mile radius. Sometimes it happened intentionally too.

[@brightestlight9462]

nah, a rogue trader with enough techno artifacts and augmentics and insane bullshit could absolutely bonk an astartes lol rogue traders have access to better gear

[@brightestlight9462]

@@jaredmccain7555 darktide doesnt have restraint, the shit we do in darktide is absolutely marine-level feats lol

[@SuperPelmetos2002]

​@@jaredmccain7555*casually changes meaning of word restraint so it better fits his narrative.

[@locomotivefaox]

And thats just so you have atleast 100 soldiers to run slower than you!

[@leonidaspereirafilho499]

Wait a moment. In imperial lore, people dont jnow that some of the daemon princes like fulgrim and mortarion were sons of the emperor. Did that change with dark imperium? Maybe the space marines know, but not some nobodies like your crew in darktide.

[@epsilon1572]

i assume theyre just referring to the astartes as a whole? super unlikely that these four chumps would know about the actual blood sons falling to chaos

[@illuminatecentral]

They're referring to Astartes as a whole, the Primarchs falling are still hidden. Mostly depends on the writer.

[@brightestlight9462]

but maybe some of the vets have heard of their buddies fighting chaos astartes, or fought them themselves

[@Clarence43180]

how do you have the reflex sight on the hellbore lasgun?

[@El_Hornio_II]

He's got a mod that allows the player to customise the weapons

[@mr.bravehart8183]

How'd that lasgun get a sight on it? Only the Kantrael one has that I think?

[@blueboy1958]

Extended Weapons Customization mod It's on Nexus

[@MothsAreEternal]

Adressing all these comments about "adding a CSM would be difficulty since 4 players canonicaly shouldn't have a chance vs him". Then...why not make WOUNDED CSM as a bossfight?

[@rosalindchapman9035]

These guard are too spooked by chaos space marines, just roll a 4+ followed by a 5+ followed by them failing to roll 3+ (6% chance). easy peasy ded marine.

[@davidmarshall7390]

'Anything but a 1!' lol.

[@Lajos_Kelemen]

Someone hasn't heard about the Horus Heresy it seems.

[@sharpnelshots]

Oh my

[@lmclelland2172]

How did you get the site

[@Cheese_syrnik]

I have the same question

[@Cheese_syrnik]

I found the answer. There is a mod on Nexusmods, that allows additional customization for weapon. But it is buggy

[@lmclelland2172]

@@Cheese_syrnik That seems a bit unfair because that adds a huge playing advantage

[@GiggyWiggy2086]

Sights for the weak iron sights the manly way not with a girly scope disgusting