Seiko Glacier Marine Master Reduced: Almost Perfect! SBDC167 / SPB299 [ SBDC167J1 / SPB299J1] MM200

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@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
It feels like it's been a long time coming, but here is the review for the new Save The Ocean Glacier Marine Master Reduced... Also, check out the Antarctica Monster: kzbin.info/www/bejne/enKviWZvgdl-gac AKA: Happy Feet Monster, Ice Chicken Monster
@HVG67
@HVG67 2 жыл бұрын
Great review as usual, Shane. I think you know I'm a big Seiko fan, owning a bunch of them and also a bunch of Seiko homages. One of those is a MM300 homage by Heimdallr. After getting that, I told myself I really want a Marine Master. I knew you were going to review this one, so I was curious to find out if this smaller one would be the one to get. In one way this ticks all the boxes such as the sapphire crystal and - low and behold - a milled clasp. But then there are those disappointments like the bezel alignment/insert material, unsigned crown and the lume that is a total let down... At that price... 🤔 So yeah, I wonder if we'll see some homages that are actually better bang for buck... Still: it gives me that Seiko itch..
@mcroadtrip7313
@mcroadtrip7313 2 жыл бұрын
Bezel is ceramic
@hidas8
@hidas8 2 жыл бұрын
No ceramic!
@dado380
@dado380 Жыл бұрын
​@@mcroadtrip7313 It's not Ceramic, it's lacquered steel!!
@edschermerhorn5415
@edschermerhorn5415 2 жыл бұрын
Wife just bought this for me for my birthday. It is a beautiful watch. With my small wrist, this case design is fabulous! I didn’t notice the two tone hands until watching this video (have had the watch for 3 hours!). I love the readability of this, and the glacial color face is a nice difference from my other blue divers
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
It's a gorgeous watch. I love mine more everyday.
@larrydalton2205
@larrydalton2205 2 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous watch. Dial being fantastic is not unusual for Seiko but that case design is amazing! This watch was deserving of the longer review. Thanks!
@marklipson
@marklipson 2 жыл бұрын
The texture of the blue dial is so nice. Man, I love pretty watches.
@topsky9220
@topsky9220 2 жыл бұрын
The last great diver from Seiko was King Turtle and Samurai, with ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal and ISO-rated 200m just under 400$. It was on strap but with a Strapcode bracelet it looks at least double the price or more.
@hmr171
@hmr171 2 жыл бұрын
I'm normally a plain black dial type of person who doesn't like colored dials or textures, but that dial is gorgeous.
@thetrentmeister
@thetrentmeister 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the SBDC143 Willard a couple of months ago, and I absolutely love that watch. The one you’ve reviewed here is in the same tier. They are great watches. Thanks for the great review and beautiful macros.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! How does the Willard wear?
@thetrentmeister
@thetrentmeister 2 жыл бұрын
@@RelativeTime The best Seiko I’ve ever worn. The fit and finish, the size and scale are amazing. I’m very glad to have it.
@thetrentmeister
@thetrentmeister 2 жыл бұрын
@@RelativeTime I should add that the seichu straps that it comes with are absolutely beautiful. The best natos ever. I did buy the OEM bracelet too, which is also fantastic.
@CostaKoren
@CostaKoren 2 жыл бұрын
Ordered one from the AD. It was perfect - great fit to wrist, great feel of the weight, everything aligned. And had a huge spec of dust on mirror finished side of the hour hand :D . So I returned it and demanded a new clean one. They sent me one. As perfect as the first one, without the dust. So, I fully wind it to see the accuracy with watchcheck app. After one hour the watch halts. I thought that ... well lets wind it again and check - same thing, dead after an hour. Tried third time - ran great for 70 hours. I wound it again and again got great 72 hours. So, I wind it third time and this time wear it on the hand. And... halts after a short time. Returned this junk to AD. I don`t know what is wrong with their QA procedures but they are really not up to the standards.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Seiko really needs to get their crap together!
@reggievanness
@reggievanness Жыл бұрын
The Seiko marinemaster is the watch that i will owe someday i am sure of it! Thanks for the review
@simonwright6882
@simonwright6882 2 жыл бұрын
I picked up the spb187 this year and on the whole it's a great piece. The lume is disappointing, my old skx with printed lume is far brighter and longer lasting. I could live without the divers extension but I understand it's there because it's a prospex.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Simon, did you happen to see my other reply? Hope so get back to me soon. email is the best.
@vernon5blue
@vernon5blue 2 жыл бұрын
I've been looking at the 62mas style watches for a while but couldn't decided which one to buy, but as soon as I saw this model I bought it, and to be honest I think it's fantastic, I haven't taken it off since I got it.
@marcopolo242
@marcopolo242 2 жыл бұрын
Love that dial and bezel combo. It's strong. In the end i decided to go with the king samurai with the white dial, as i had just recently bought a blue dial Farer Charlton. For me the king samurai bests this one in every aspect(case shape, ceramic bezel, lume) except the movement and i couldn't ascribe another 400 bucks for a 4R to 6R upgrade. Huge competition once you hit a grand from just soooo many companies.
@camarocarl7130
@camarocarl7130 2 жыл бұрын
I hate the 6R. All my 4R movements run much more accurately.
@1959Berre
@1959Berre 2 жыл бұрын
It looks great, especially that dial. I am a true Seiko fan, but this one does not give enough bang for the buck.
@amgittins
@amgittins 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. How do you release such poor lume on this watch? The bracelet should have a bigger bling factor than it does considering the dial.
@zacharyparis
@zacharyparis 2 жыл бұрын
I already have the brown dial version but I love this one too. Do I need both?!
@GabrielSchlaefer
@GabrielSchlaefer 2 жыл бұрын
You already know the answer. 😉
@96kyh
@96kyh 2 жыл бұрын
I'm usually struggling to keep up with the Seiko diver models. This one with that dial & size, looks like the one for me if I'm buying a diver.
@clivebushnell8428
@clivebushnell8428 5 ай бұрын
It's a beautiful watch, but when I looked at the MM reduced series in the boutique in London, I have to say, I wished that Seiko hadn't reduced the size. The dial is beautiful, but the watch doesn't have the presence that I enjoy so much. I see a lot of comment on social media calling for smaller watches, but I personally don't get it and especially I don't get it for dive watches. I own and love the original blue Sumo, a Save the ocean Samurai, an SBDC077 Green Sea (the large 62 MAS) and my smallest Seiko at 42mm, a black Fifty five fathoms. After looking at all the Seiko Boutique had to offer, I was left feeling that the only watches I was drawn to were the special editions around the £2500 mark, but I really didn't feel that they were worth that price. I ended up buying my first non Seiko watch for many years, a Tissot Seastar 2000. It's big, at 46mm and 16mm thick, its beautifully finished and has a gorgeous fumee dial in aquamarine blue with waves a domed sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel. Looking through the domed crystal, I love the depth of the case and the layers of detail, with the hands, indices, chapter ring and textured dial all having very much their own plane to inhabit. Still keeping a close eye on new releases from Seiko of course.
@u.u.u9969
@u.u.u9969 Жыл бұрын
Seiko & Tudor has some thick case shapes. But seeing that this is 42mm/13mm is interesting 🤔
@khulgarulfsson8067
@khulgarulfsson8067 2 жыл бұрын
It’s very pretty. It’s probably not really for me but I can certainly appreciate that it’s got a lot going for it. You did an amazing job photographing and filming it. 👍
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gmotionedc5412
@gmotionedc5412 2 жыл бұрын
I love my 62 mas version! It’s great and I love the time reserve. But I will say I get as much joy from my spinnaker or Farer! It’s all about what you like. Seiko is still my fav overall brand!!👍
@dachanist
@dachanist 2 жыл бұрын
If it was $650usd - I'd buy it, but pressed indices, printed not filled lume, chunky clasp, bad alignment and +/- 25 seconds per day makes that my top. The dial is a beauty. It would feel good explaining that "It's just a Seiko" with that Glacier dial.
@ppadilla8990
@ppadilla8990 Жыл бұрын
At that price It should have better movement and QC 6r35 are unpredictable movements
@WolfgangVonKempelen838
@WolfgangVonKempelen838 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, lots of information, execute at the perfect pace. Thank you Sir
@jodysilvia2
@jodysilvia2 2 жыл бұрын
I have a mm200 and the case shape and size is fantastic. I have a 7.25 wrist and it fits my wrist perfectly .
@theplasticdesert2408
@theplasticdesert2408 2 жыл бұрын
Seiko are in a really interesting place atm. They’re more “budget” line are punching way above they’re waste line to the degree that their watches that cost twice as much really aren’t giving you much more in a lot of cases imho.
@nrs6956
@nrs6956 2 жыл бұрын
Well done review. Thank you. Agree with the disappointment with lume, but I usually have enough light.
@javiersaturno9689
@javiersaturno9689 2 жыл бұрын
Came for the first hand review on the seiko, stayed and subscribed. I think it's a great review, where one does not need to read between lines. Value on this piece is low, however pretty it looks from afar. Thanks for the vid
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome. Value on Seikos at this price always seems to be pretty low. Although I still love this one, but for me it's all about the dial.
@nbt3663
@nbt3663 Ай бұрын
Good heavens, you're really good at this. It's a gorgeous watch. Most of the negatives I would not even come close to seeing. I wanted a 7000, but their hard to find. I just never liked the new rounder case of the divers that took its place. But this watch caught my eye. Heck, I forgot all about how this case looks to the old divers. To me, this is a dress watch. So, is this case closer to the originsls? I have an old 64 rolex my dad gave me. Very nice and basic looking. I havent worn it in years. My samsung smart watch is what i wear. Wish i could find a black bracelet that would fit it. So i dropped a serious hint that id wear this if the wife were to buy it for me. Lol. My guess is she wont. Lol. Too busy buying things fir our wonderful grand kids. Maybe i should let her watch this review, all puns intended. 22:04
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime Ай бұрын
Thanks! Who knows, maybe she will surprise you.
@Bob.martens
@Bob.martens 2 жыл бұрын
I have the first gen STO turtle and Samurai. Both with sapphire, and the turtle with MM- style hands. I have all the Seiko divers I want.
@johnakos23
@johnakos23 2 жыл бұрын
The reason the lume doesn't last as long nowadays is because it isn't deep filled. The hour markers are raised and Seiko only uses a tiny amount of lume on them. If you check one of the older MM200 models they glow brighter and for longer too because they actually have applied markers as opposed to raised.
@colmfarrel4742
@colmfarrel4742 2 жыл бұрын
They aren't applied they are stamped from the back of the dial.
@petertelinde130
@petertelinde130 2 жыл бұрын
simply stunning dail
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
It really is!
@777soul56
@777soul56 2 жыл бұрын
I love this ⌚!! In regards to the lume my thought is they didn't want the white lume to turn green as it does due to sheer strength. Low light transition markers stay white keep the color balanced with the dial.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
That could be.
@96kyh
@96kyh 2 жыл бұрын
I love these 2 : Seiko MM 200m Reduced and the Speedmaster Reduced.
@drews4685
@drews4685 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and review of an awesome looking Seiko . I agree that such a great dial deserves stronger lume . I’ve noticed quite a lume difference between models and years of Seiko divers , with surprisingly some from a few years back stronger than some newer ones. Keep up the good work 👍
@kamenlitchev
@kamenlitchev 2 жыл бұрын
That's a coincidence - I am, too, waiting for that exact model to get to me... And yesterday I had the Antarctica Monster on my hand, oh, I LOVE that watch!
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy this one when you get it. I love both of them for different reasons. I can't help but smile when I wear the Antarctica Monster. Whereas I'm always in awe when I wear this one.
@ralphus555
@ralphus555 2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always Shane. I get the value proposition, but that dial is spectacular... and that's why people will ultimately buy it. Nobody does dials like Seiko...
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. Seiko is a master. Plus another side to the value proposition is resale. There are exceptions, but Seiko usually has pretty good resale if you happen to buy one and don't like it. Unlike a lot of Ali watches.
@SilverSergeant
@SilverSergeant 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, Shane. Thanks for the DressKX shot. That is still one of my favorites for value.
@amgittins
@amgittins 2 жыл бұрын
DressKX is certainly a conversation piece!
@marcelodietrich8674
@marcelodietrich8674 2 жыл бұрын
What an absolutey gorgous watch! Fabulous review. Thank you!
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jim_bocho
@jim_bocho 2 жыл бұрын
The handset seems to be the same (or very similar) to the SPB143.
@ThePlaiibox
@ThePlaiibox 2 жыл бұрын
The bezel is the same as on the 62MAS 140th anniversary model - Aluminum but with a shinier coating
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Now that you mention it, it does look to be the same. Thanks for pointing it out.
@nikitaandriyashin7343
@nikitaandriyashin7343 2 жыл бұрын
62mas bezel insert is actually coated steel, on all their versions, including the shiny ones
@edteach3r
@edteach3r 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful watch. Good choice, Shane.
@warrioroh58d
@warrioroh58d 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting about the lume. I have an all steel MM200 and the lume is great on my example. It holds up against my King Turtle, dress kx and even my Oris Aquis.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Is that the 44mm version?
@warrioroh58d
@warrioroh58d 2 жыл бұрын
@@RelativeTime no it’s the current version
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
@@warrioroh58d interesting. Maybe it's just the glacier version.
@dpioli
@dpioli 2 жыл бұрын
I would like it a little bigger. Something between this size and the mm300. I own a great blue hole, i love it and i hate it for the bracelet and the bezel not being ceramic. Nowadays watches in half price come with ceramic bezel. I hate the bracelet not only fot the colar and pins but it is only 20mm and it gets narrou very close to the case tapering to only 16mm, algo the 1st link to the lugs make the case longer. should be buying a strapcode bracelet.
@MrEmbangweni
@MrEmbangweni 2 жыл бұрын
I have no source, and I do not know what the bezel insert is actually made of for this watch, but my "feeling" of Seiko's in this price range, is that normally the bezel inserts are made of steel
@shawnholloway2410
@shawnholloway2410 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! It is a nice watch and one I would consider. You are right, it is hard to beat the Orient Star Diver. For the SBDC167, is it made in Japan? It states Japan on the case back but I did not see "made in".
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Good Catch... I'm not sure. At this price it should be, but I don't see it specified.
@jhrodriguez08
@jhrodriguez08 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the SPB297 and basically you want to check time often just to look at the dial…..it’s also making me wear my other watches less
@Sandman.68.
@Sandman.68. 2 жыл бұрын
I have a blue face n bezel 300MM From Squire , I mean Steeldive.Its unbelievably fantastic . Has a etched signed crown , sapphire crystal, NH35a movement. Fender, i mean Seiko remain the star and cover the whole market . Maybe .
@ArniesTech
@ArniesTech Жыл бұрын
The case of this watch is a pure marvel ❤️😵
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын
The case is amazing. I can't think of another watch that comes close.
@Walterliquori
@Walterliquori 2 жыл бұрын
Such a nice dial. Man I just want an mechanical watch.I wish I got into watches before I got into knives I have a bunch of high end knives and I still just carry the same benchmade griptilian. I don’t know how you decide what to wear man it would give me agida
@collaberatorzseanhuang8952
@collaberatorzseanhuang8952 2 жыл бұрын
I like the different straps that you've tried on with that watch. They give different looks to the watch, and more wearability. My favorite is the strap at @10:21 . Is that canvas?
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! There should be a link in the description to it. It's a Nylon / Rubber hybrdi from strapseeker. They sent me some to check out. Really nice straps, but for some reason they use really narrow springbars. Looks great with the watch, though. The one I've been using the most with it is the Barton Cordura hybrid. You can see that at 18:27
@Koishishibaman
@Koishishibaman 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Thanks. That dial is beautiful. I have not tried this style case on my wrist. I wonder if it fits similar to my Sumo? The blumo is a sweet fitting watch. Also the case finishing is outstanding. I have the zelos spearfish. Love the dial...movement..,lume. The case finishing like all their watches....meh! I am kind of drawn to the sbdc169. Wonder how it feels on the wrist? Thanks again
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
The white dial on the sbdc169 looks really cool. I'm guessing it wears like any other Willard or turtle. Which are usually amazingly comfortable for the size. As for this one... I have to say it's the most comfortable Seiko Diver I've worn.
@salam-s9y
@salam-s9y 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you kept the Helm Miyako! I have it on the same blue strap! Its my daily now!
@michaelbradbrook9575
@michaelbradbrook9575 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review Shane. I have an older SBDC053 with a similar looking bezel that shifts between royal blue to black depending on the light. It is apparently it is made from coated stainless steel
@sadersan9860
@sadersan9860 2 жыл бұрын
great video thank you, I only wish if nomos tangente s could be around this price range
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. Some point I'd love to check them out, but the price is kept me from doing so.
@wescobts
@wescobts 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I have been stewing over my next watch, and Seiko has been in the mix. this video has helped me very much, thank you.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. 👍
@bosephusjr
@bosephusjr 3 ай бұрын
Great video.. great review. Thanks!
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@tobiasvogel5739
@tobiasvogel5739 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. May I can ask, what kind of is this watch on your desk with a green dial and brown leather strap?
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
That might of been the SWC Hyper-G. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmeVpWOgpKaZkNE I usually shoot watches in batches, and I think I was working on it at the same time. Otherwise, do you have a time code?
@tobiasvogel5739
@tobiasvogel5739 2 жыл бұрын
@@RelativeTime that is the one! many thanks for your fast response!
@elarson312
@elarson312 2 жыл бұрын
Great looking watch and thanks for a very well done review. The dial color is awesome. But it’s too bad that the price in save the ocean Seiko’s is now north of a grand.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
At least for the "Modern Re-Interpretation" line. I think you can get some of the Save The Ocean Monster and Baby tunas for $500. Still expensive for what they are though.
@tylerfeagan438
@tylerfeagan438 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. A blue birch diver💚
@ianmarshall3633
@ianmarshall3633 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Shane. Great video as usual. Overall the watch looks good. But I can't help but feel that the line plots and hands are a touch small when compared to the dial size. Compared to other Seiko divers it doesn't really stand out. The mini Turtle I think would be a comparable option for less money.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
I think they are a little small, but in line with the Marine Master 300 / 200 line. Funny you should mention the Mini Turtle. The first time I put it on it reminded me a little of how the Mini-Turtle felt on the wrist.
@fabmsrohfm2593
@fabmsrohfm2593 Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous dial. 😍🤩
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын
It really is!
@haping1
@haping1 2 жыл бұрын
Love my Monster Pinguin because it has an awsome dial. This one to, but for a lot more money. Compared to other (micro) brands, only a movement upgrade and a saphire crystalcannot justify the amount of money for me. Maybe a Zelos, Phoibos or Audaz next time? The Seestern MAS62 with MOP dial and lumed datewheel is better bang for the bug. Hope Seiko makes Save The Ocean models still with a 4R35 movement.
@zankotrpkoski3186
@zankotrpkoski3186 2 жыл бұрын
Hello from France, i like your video , i would like to ask you where did you find and which is the brand of the dark blue strap on a rubber basis? It looks like canvas on the top but rubber on beneath? I bought the watch last week… Thank you!
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
I usually try to link the straps in the description, so you can check there. Otherwise I had two straps like that in the video, both hybrids. One was from Barton, the other is from a brand called Strapseeker. Strapseeker is on Amazon here in the US, but not sure about france. Hope you are enjoying the watch... I love mine.
@zankotrpkoski3186
@zankotrpkoski3186 2 жыл бұрын
@@RelativeTime thank you for the answer, i will look for some straps. In May i bought the black series SPB255J1 and i was soooo happy with it and especially with the 70 h power reserve that i thaught have one in silver would be great too - and than i saw this one… i snapped :)… too bad that they did not offer a blue seichu strap with it… that would be a perfect match!
@rck4w
@rck4w Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@anotherwatch
@anotherwatch 2 жыл бұрын
Good review. This is very good looking watch when I last handled it in an AD. I still prefer the MM300 only because I prefer their builds and the heft. I know that it is not a fair comparison due to costs differences. Thanks for upload.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Fair Enough, thanks for watching!
@flow2tech
@flow2tech 2 жыл бұрын
@Another Watch if only the mm300 came in at this size or even 40mm ..It would be an instant buy for me..This is the next best thing and I'm cool with it ..I do believe eventually, that Seiko will come out with a smaller higher end mm300..It's only a matter of time..
@anotherwatch
@anotherwatch 2 жыл бұрын
@@flow2tech if they do that, I would be one of the first purchasers 😀
@flow2tech
@flow2tech 2 жыл бұрын
@@anotherwatch I'm with ya 💯.. With the current trends of smaller case sizes, you'd think Seikos marketing team would be all over this...Take my money!
@chrisj854
@chrisj854 2 жыл бұрын
It does have a ceramic bezel
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
That would be nice. How do you know?
@sanjeetbhawsar
@sanjeetbhawsar 8 ай бұрын
Really Nice Explanation Best of All Till I Watched On KZbin Related This Seiko Save The Ocean SPB299j1
@simmobb2
@simmobb2 2 жыл бұрын
20:16 / 22:03 Really, that NATO with a Pepsi Bezel. Should've gone to Specsavers 😂😂
@tonyboros712
@tonyboros712 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Shane. Am I the only one that prefers the simplicity of an unsigned crown? Just curious.
@flow2tech
@flow2tech 2 жыл бұрын
@Tony Boros I don't mind it ..I think with these they are trying to keep in line with historical references..They didn't have the signed crowns back in the day..
@amgame9489
@amgame9489 2 жыл бұрын
im with you. i like the unsigned crown. i like simple. sometimes, put too much on something, it ruins the item as a whole. besides, we dont look at the crown to tell time, we look at the dial.
@CJ_102
@CJ_102 2 жыл бұрын
As a hobby collector I'd rather go with the Citizen Orca. The "quality" diver market is saturated with big hitters, Swiss names and outstanding value (if you take the time to look). This is an amazing watch, but only for casual wearers needing one watch or perhaps folks who want to build a specific Seiko collection. For general collectors, shelf space is limited, so actual (sub $1,000) Swiss made divers keep their crown and novelty Japanese items are better served with ones offerings the Orca etc.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
So what in particular do you think the Swiss do better in this price range?
@leonelcunca2843
@leonelcunca2843 Жыл бұрын
I got that watch, amazing, worth well the price 👍🏻
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын
It really is!
@checksix_TC
@checksix_TC 2 жыл бұрын
Love the review. The way you shot the video, the lighting really brings out the beauty of that ice blue dial.
@steveyoung101
@steveyoung101 2 жыл бұрын
Unless you are a Seiko lover. For this price, I can get a Mido, Ball, and many more options.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Which Balls come in around $1000? That's another brand I want to check out
@alicemacdonald1550
@alicemacdonald1550 2 жыл бұрын
Great choice! 😺 Looks like a sapphire bezel!
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
It has that glossy sheen. Hopefully I hear back from Seiko at some point on what exactly it is.
@danielw.556
@danielw.556 2 жыл бұрын
The 6 million dollar question 😀Yeah, even on advertisement pictures, some are off by half a mark. For a +1000$ watch? I have a sub 400$ Manta ray turtle... of course it's off. And it makes me crazy. A sub 300 Tissot is perfectly aligned.
@ericfreutel8240
@ericfreutel8240 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful comprehensive review. Many thanks. Gorgeous watch!
@anthonyschumacher9925
@anthonyschumacher9925 2 жыл бұрын
Saphire overlay in the bezel.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing it's just Aluminum. It just has more of a shiny glossy polished finish, as well as their diashield protective coating.
@andreaiacolina
@andreaiacolina 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is such a beautiful piece! After many Seiko watches in my collection, this could be the ultimate Seiko diver. Need to see one in the metal.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
If you can find one, they are worth checking out.
@andreaiacolina
@andreaiacolina 2 жыл бұрын
@@RelativeTime tried one on today. Amazing. The dial is just gorgeous 😍
@gregalonzo747
@gregalonzo747 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on the negatives. Though I like the look of this Seiko, there are many other watches in that price range that offer better value.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
If you could pick one in this price range, what would it be?
@gregalonzo747
@gregalonzo747 2 жыл бұрын
@@RelativeTime, frankly, neither. I just don't trust Seiko any longer. I would probably go with a microbrand.
@nikitaandriyashin7343
@nikitaandriyashin7343 2 жыл бұрын
Shane, sorry to pinpoint that, but on a second viewing of the video, I noticed that you show the image of 6159 while talking about 6215.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Which part? Was it the still image or what was on Chrono24?
@nikitaandriyashin7343
@nikitaandriyashin7343 2 жыл бұрын
@@RelativeTime The still image one, Chrono24 was correct.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I grabbed that off seiko's promo for the new models. It had it listed as the 1968 inspiration. I thought they were referring to the 6215. Maybe I got it wrong. www.seikowatches.com/us-en/products/prospex/special/1965-1968-1970-savetheocean
@nikitaandriyashin7343
@nikitaandriyashin7343 2 жыл бұрын
@@RelativeTime Yeah, I guess they referred to 6159 as the first 300m hi-beat diver, mentioning it being a 10-beat one. Donno why they don't like the 6215 that much😅
@bmwohl
@bmwohl 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked your video. I've been wearing my SBDC047 for a few days again, and I like it just as much as this watch. You helped me put off the urge to "spring" for a Spring Drive diver.
@khronokraze
@khronokraze 2 жыл бұрын
I was seriously considering this one. But, as far as the more premium Prospex line of "vintage reissues" are concerned with 6R35 movement, I ended up getting a green Willard recently. Btw, I also like that light blue dot on the second hand. I'm very particular with my blue colors.. I held out on this one cause I wasn't sure if maybe some green, perhaps too much of it, may be seen in this type of blue dial. Idk? Overall, I think it is probably sufficiently more blue enough. Great buy!
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
There is also the 62mas version that's more of a traditional darker blue. One reason I decided to get this was that the blue was so different. I didn't want it to match any of my other blue divers, or ones I might want to get in the future. It's almost like a metallic electrified tiffany blue.
@khronokraze
@khronokraze 2 жыл бұрын
@@RelativeTime I think I do like the darker blue of the 62mas version. But, I prefer the mm200 case. Idk?.. I think the mm200 would still be the best one to get out of the 3 they made.
@jwt1035
@jwt1035 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful watch.
@thachnguyen5836
@thachnguyen5836 2 жыл бұрын
hey Shane, you're the best watch reviewer seriously
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TheMostSmokeCrew
@TheMostSmokeCrew 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a real pretty watch. We need to protect our environment.
@roberttakatsu3926
@roberttakatsu3926 Жыл бұрын
It's a dive watch did you take it down 18 or 20 meters? Do you even dive in a pool?
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын
I haven't dove in a while, but this one has been in the ocean a few times. Why are you asking?
@WeibenWang
@WeibenWang 2 жыл бұрын
My Christopher Ward C60 Sapphire also has a beveled crystal that refracts the indexes and minute hand to the edge of the dial, so you can point the timing bezel right at the image of the minute hand. It's cool, but it's not original to Seiko.
@squinkygordon1322
@squinkygordon1322 2 жыл бұрын
The Seiko 6105-8000 released in 1968 was also supplied with a beveled crystal that refracts the indices. This was decades before CW came into existence.
@TinBin-Craig
@TinBin-Craig 2 жыл бұрын
Its a nice watch... the price ouch.... cheers
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Especially for a Seiko. I think the regular versions will come down in price, but not sure this one ever will.
@SaSpursFan
@SaSpursFan 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody else feel the indices are disproportionately too small for the dial in comparison to the bezel insert?
@kit22brady
@kit22brady 2 жыл бұрын
What is that beautiful dark blue nato at 4:58? Thanks
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
I belive it's a sharkskin singlepass by Blushark.
@erickruse4679
@erickruse4679 2 жыл бұрын
The whole time I watched that, I kept thinking why would I pay 1200? Maybe 600. Compared to the Seastar 2000, with the ceramic, and the rhodium hands and the even prettier and also pretty unique dial, with 3x the water resistance... I'll give the seiko a win on the case and band though, those are pretty great. The seastar 2000 case is as overtly utilitarian as any watch ever gets, and I replace the band with a miltat hexad on the second day, but from the top down, it's spectacular at the price point, and on my wrist has only lost several seconds over the course of as many months.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
I'll have to check that one out. In fact I need to pay more attention to Tissot in general.
@bryanryan4504
@bryanryan4504 2 жыл бұрын
I just got this one. The size is actually 40mm not 42mm
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of if you want to take my word for it or not. Official Seiko specs say 42. www.seikowatches.com/us-en/products/prospex/spb299j1 That said, it wears beautifully. Like a perfect 40 mm thanks to the case shape.
@bryanryan4504
@bryanryan4504 2 жыл бұрын
@@RelativeTime I know that they list it that, which is strange. I measured again and it is definitely 40mm. Yes. I actually prefer this 40mm than 42 so I was pleasantly surprised. It wears very well.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Curious. Do you have the same glacier model? Or another Marine Master reduced? If I measure the bezel I'm at 40.5 Going straight across from the 9 to the three and I'm at 42.2 Going down from the 12th to the 6th. I'm right at 41.
@bryanryan4504
@bryanryan4504 2 жыл бұрын
@@RelativeTime yes I have the spb299 same as yours. Ok then perhaps I was just measuring the bezel. I will try again. I don't have calipers I only have a students ruler on a protractor
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. I, personally, am not paying that kind of money for a Seiko that isn't Grand. Still a beauty, though.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
I hear yah. I'm curious what most people conisder to be too much for a Seiko. Maybe I should do a poll.
@yoinkhaha
@yoinkhaha 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t realize there were different size MM200s.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
With all the nicknames the Seiko family tree gets confusing. So I thought it was a good idea to go over all that. Some people have also started calling these the new MM200. Which doesn't really explain what it is.
@watchesgadgetsandstuff
@watchesgadgetsandstuff 2 жыл бұрын
Fanatastic video - The sound of your videos is perfect! (some of your colleagues neglect that bit). Love the watch too!
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! When I started this whole thing, I did it with the idea of providing good quality images so you can really see what the watch is like. As well good audio so you fully hear what I'm saying. I started out at a good place, but I've steadily improved the quality of things as I've gone on.
@nikitaandriyashin7343
@nikitaandriyashin7343 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder why noone noticed that this version's hour and minute hands are now same as 62mas and Willard's - unlike all the MM200 reduced which had a more pointy hour hand and a minute hand that narrows down. Also wonder whether all new MM200 will have those hands or it's only this version.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about mentioning it in the begining, when I was going over the 3 different versions, but I didn't want to overload people who weren't as familar with them.
@nikitaandriyashin7343
@nikitaandriyashin7343 2 жыл бұрын
@@RelativeTime makes sense
@sendoacarrete7316
@sendoacarrete7316 2 жыл бұрын
Porque los que veo por internet tienen el bisel azul?? El bisel del vídeo es negro no?
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
It's a dark blue bezel, but it's very reflective. So in a lot of shots it looks black. But it's definitely blue.
@rappers5719
@rappers5719 2 жыл бұрын
Why always automatics? I understand the inner workings are more involved. Is this A snobbery thing? Auto over, Kinetic, Quartz, etc.
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Personally i wear both, but as for channel, generally speaking there are more interst in Automatics. Part of it is due to snobbery in the community, but I think a lot of it is also becaue most of the "nicer" watches are Autos. Most companies don't put as much attention into their quartz watches. There are some exceptions of course.... and some of those videos perfom fairly well. As for kinetic watches... they are kind of dead. Seiko doesn't seem to care much about them anymore, and there is more of a focus on Solar. And this is coming from someone who was a fan of their kinetic watches.
@rappers5719
@rappers5719 2 жыл бұрын
@@RelativeTime Thank you. I bought an Invicta with the Miyota internals. Not impressed. The actuator (Pendulum) seems, well, stiff. My first and probable last auto purchase. Thank you again. I have asked the same question to quite a few sites and received nothing back. Good luck with all you do.
@jimmylaw2136
@jimmylaw2136 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a stunner! After seiko started increasing price for new models, seiko is now my secondary brand, where I will selectively buy, like the 5kx gmt. And maybe this one if I can ever get past that price. Orient was my primary brand, till they behave worse than seiko, they raise price for both current and new models in MY and SG. So now I don't have any primary brand. Haha
@retardinho5048
@retardinho5048 2 жыл бұрын
Prices are rising everywhere. I don’t understand why people are making Seiko and co. out to be villains for that.
@ericfreutel8240
@ericfreutel8240 2 жыл бұрын
Terrific review. Love your lighting and macro photography. Gorgeous dial. Many thanks 🙏 😊
@RelativeTime
@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@finesse49
@finesse49 2 жыл бұрын
I like the dial but I'm not into divers, unfortunately.
@PukaHeadMan
@PukaHeadMan 2 жыл бұрын
Great review and killer watch!
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