Relics of the Northern Line (Tales from the Tube Episode 5)

[@smerajayadeva6693]

"If that interests you-" YES PLEASE GOD YES I can spend hours watching these videos and amassing fun facts about the underground to recount to friends who aren't cultured enough to care for the same. Thank you

[@richardclarke376]

Excellent videos: no annoying music, no gimmicks - just solid well informed content !

[@JagoHazzard]

Thanks!

[@ShaunieDale]

And very dry humour! That’s why I come here.

[@ghostdog4330]

"Minor KZbinr"?, tsk tsk, don't be so hard on yourself. You have a cracking channel in the works here. :D

[@adonaiyah2196]

Its been about a year since he made this

[@MarkyFormula1]

@@adonaiyah2196 I presume they would roll out the red carpet for our Jago now!

[@georgethomas7814]

An interesting collection that seems to have been ignored by many....... Light hearted and interesting content.

[@tjejojyj]

Nice. 👍 I hazard a guess that Britain has as many railway focused KZbinrs as the rest of the world put together. More history? More railfans?

[@JagoHazzard]

I guess there’s probably some deep-seated cultural reason. It might be because Britain had the first steam railways or perhaps because we have so many heritage railways. Or something else entirely. I should research this...

[@georgethomas7814]

@@JagoHazzard I would say you have already started. Mentioning the use of the underground stations during the WW2 bombing raids.... Also covered the sheer volume of trains and the existence/need for rail without impact on the growing city. Needed transport for goods, even funeral trains..... The number of people able to take/hire trains for excursions.....

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@tjejojyj France and Japan have very large railfan communities too, but of course tend to produce content in Japanese and French, thus not really competing with the English-language videos!

[@Krzyszczynski]

I used Clapham Common station every day during a 6-month sojourn in the area. Shortly after I moved there late in 1974, the down escalator was dismantled for repair and everyone had to walk down the stairs to the platforms - which fortunately aren't too far below the surface. Throughout my time there, no progress whatever was made, beyond attachment or removal of the odd sprocket wheel. For all I know, people are still having to use those stairs!!

[@iankemp1131]

I actually saw King William Street on a special visit in the 1980s. It was fascinating for many reasons. It was used as a WW2 air raid shelter and still had the "Careless Talk Costs Lives" posters on the walls. We then walked down the tunnels part way under the Thames (until it got too wet underfoot) and it was strange to hear ships' propellers directly above your head - they felt very close! I have always thought KWSt would make an interesting tourist attraction. The small early C&SLR engines struggled to climb the bank into it. I remember the narrow island platform at Angel as well, you felt uncomfortably close to the trains on a busy day.

[@Endominius]

The island platform at Angel was terrifying in rush hour. Until I saw this I had no idea they had changed it.

[@chrisstephens6673]

"Minor" KZbinr, I think you are a bit behind the times with that opinion. If the present sub rate continues you will soon get your silver YT plaque.👍

[@SeverityOne]

"...insanely wide platform..." Shows platform that would be of average width in any other city

[@JagoHazzard]

In London you accept the risk of being lobbed on to the track as one of the hazards of everyday life.

[@SeverityOne]

@@JagoHazzard Yes, that's one thing I noticed when I first took the Tube. I was used to Amsterdam, or even Paris, and standing on a platform that feels narrower than our corridor at home, pressed together with hundreds of people while trains coming rushing in, was quite an experience.

[@jerribee1]

@@SeverityOne You don't just get a ticket to travel on the tube; you get an adrenalin rush as well. How's that for value?

[@SeverityOne]

@@jerribee1 London is an exciting place, I must admit. You might need therapy and/or medication afterwards, though, but it's all worth it.

[@2Worlds_and_InBetween]

@@SeverityOne I have lived here most of my life.... its something you seem to become used to 😋

[@MarvinStroud3]

In 1968 the tube had "moving stairways", now it has "escalators". We Texans hardly speak English at all and hate to see proper English being Americanized. We love to hear proper English spoken properly. People from Victoria, Australia seem to do it well. Thanks for the excellect informative videos.

[@lescalverley8335]

Yes remember them well as I drove 1938 stock on the Northern line during the late 60’s

[@colin6644]

Thanks for showing me the new Angel. As a schoolboy in the late 1950s at Owen's School nearby (long gone!), I used the old island platform every day. Always felt rather exposed standing between two lines!

[@JagoHazzard]

I feel the same at the Claphams. I wouldn’t want to go there in rush hour.

[@taraelizabethdensley9475]

Such little platforms would make me very nervous

[@HonestMan112]

I've been watching this very addicting series all day.

[@VictoriaElizabethUK]

You can see the old Angel Station on the BBC 2 documentary that was made about Angel Station decades ago which was filmed just before London Underground announced the plans for rebuilding the station. Towards the end of the documentary the plans for the new rebuilt station are shown to the station staff.

[@jonathanlanglois2742]

You call that a wide platform? There's quite a few in Montreal that are easily that wide and even wider then that. The older narrower cut and cover stations on the green line aren't as appreciated by passengers as the newer deep level stations that might as well be underground cathedrals. There's truly something to be said about brutalist architecture. When thinking about brutalist architecture, a lot of peoples think of a number of large concrete buildings dotted throughout of the city and it really does not get much love at al. Many think that those buildings should be torn down. The brutalism style is known for it's use of concrete as a primary material, for being big and monumental. It's a style that is fully realised in the Montreal Metro, but interestingly enough, the metro stations aren't associated with brutalism in the collective mindset, and yet, it's everywhere in those stations. The thing that the Montreal metro does very well is leaving exposed concrete while adding patterns and shapes to the concrete and just enough color to make the entire ensemble very interesting.

[@paulrobinson419]

If you want to see a few more bits of the C&SLR, go to the Elephant and castle, and Borough stations. Particularly the northbound platforms and look at the roof. There are two differing levels where the platforms were extended to accommodate longer trains when the Northern line came into being during the early part of the 20th century.

[@ianbuchanan2461]

After a temporary power station, at Great Dover Street, the line was powered from a power station at Stockwell, building still there I think, until 1915 when it became powered from Lots Road power station in Chelsea, opened in 1905. It would seem that, in the early days, station lighting was obtained from gas, electric lights on the trains. On opening the traction voltage was 450 volts with just a centre conductor rail, but that did prove inadequate to get the trains up a steep gradient and the distance of the end of the line from the power station! From the beginning there were tunnel lights that could be switched on by the signalman and there was a pair of copper wires in the tunnel that the driver could use to clip on a telephone and talk to the signalman. So, tunnel lights and tunnel telephone are still there on the system but are relics of the first line to be built!

[@JagoHazzard]

Interesting, I’ll have to look the Stockwell power station up.

[@VauxhallVictorMan]

OMG. I was working in the building next to the station in the 1970's. One of the guys I was working with said there was a disused station next door and would we like to visit it. So 2 girls myself and him went to the basement and through an unlocked door into the station. I remember seeing latrines and posters from the war that the paper had disappeared leaving the print stuck on the walls. He suggested we walk through the tunnels so we set off. After a few minutes we heard strange noises and he said we should turn back but I wanted to carry on. The noise became louder and we became frightened . He shouted we should go back now so we turned around and started running ahead of the thousands of rats that lived down there. I never went back. I know why... By the way great videos. Love them.

[@PopeLando]

Before Angel the same thing happened at Euston. Euston on the Bank Branch was an island platform just like Angel and the southern stations, but was filled in when the Victoria Line arrived. The southbound platform is similarly extra wide.

[@chrisblay]

I used to work in King William Street and never knew it had an old underground station. Bank station was just over the road and I remember the worn concrete steps from years of people treading on the same spot. Also enjoyed your stories about the (now unused) Bank foot tunnel and reported ghost stories from people over the years.

[@martinmargerrison2300]

Funnily enough and ironically there is an English local authority called South Northamptonshire District* (*no connection with the tube line obviously). It's in the south East Midlands region ... err 😟🤔

[@chazzyb8660]

I must admit I used to find that island platform at Angel absolutely terrifying. I'm not sure why I was so scared, but it was very narrow. I used to stay right in the middle - widthways - until the train arrived.

[@JagoHazzard]

The ones in Clapham are still a little unnerving.

[@rainyfeathers9148]

🙋🏾‍♀️It would interest me. We walk around and see strange things, big and small but never know we're looking at a whole story. Sometimes even a rabbit hole of historical shenanigans.

[@silviasanchez648]

That platform you called "insanely wide" is normal size for German undergrounds. Just a random piece of information.

[@somethingelsehere8089]

Amazing. I lived in London for 3 months back in the 90s. I remember bits and pieces, and that image of Angel station in its original form brought with it a shock of recognition. Thank you.

[@stevev3664]

I remember the island platform at the Angel station back in the 60s.

[@keithchesworth9865]

DO you know anything about Camden? I used to use that one a lot when working about London and was intrigued by a Electrical Circuit sign showing a dead end branch, which is never mentioned

[@lotsofspots]

City Road's very visible from the train on the stretch between Old Street and Angel - the platforms are gone, but where they used to be is easy to see in either direction.

[@STRAWBERRYJRECORDS]

The presenter of these videos really has a natural talent for telling the story. Probably the most pleasant narrator I've heard in a very long time. Very relaxing and fun to watch and i won't stop till I've watched every story! Also very interesting! I've been obsessed with the underground for years and I've not heard most of these stories! Please keep up the good work and well done to you sir.

[@JagoHazzard]

Many thanks!

[@SamSitar]

there is also a video of someone skiing down the angel tube station escalator.

[@lars7935]

While the underground has a rich history I always find the trains and stations cramped and the station spacing on the same line is way to close. But non the less it is one of the best rapid transit systems in the world.

[@trevordance5181]

The Glasgow Subway was built with all stations having narrow island platforms. The busier ones have been converted in recent years though so now they have a seperate platform for each direction.

[@davidschwartz3894]

Superb ...i always thought Angel escalator was very,very long !! I renember the island platform ... used to feel nervous when two trains approached at the same time ! Thanks for all your great videos..

[@yusufturner1971]

Looks like my former home Kestrel House on the City Road at 2.08, surprised to see it still there! Love the videos, so thank you! 👍🏼

[@jaypeg49]

I'm honestly so glad to come across another channel that covers the tube. It's one of my special interest, i suppose you watch Geoff Marshall?

[@freddyaraujo3094]

Wonderful piece of history of the tube. Thanks for sharing. You really know how to take us to the places you visit

[@elizabethspedding1975]

I think the Northern Line has a lot of character, but I feel for commuters who have to use it each day, as it does struggle to keep up with the times.

[@borderlands6606]

Back in the 70s and 80s the Northern Line had a dubious reputation, particularly at evenings and weekends. That said, the tube as a whole wasn't especially salubrious back then.

[@jamesharmer9293]

I remember the old platform at Angel. During rush hour it was well dodgy.

[@stephenpegum9776]

I first moved to live in London back in 1977 & remember the old single-platform Angel station very well. I was always slightly nervous using it particularly in peak times when two trains arrived simultaneously. Then it was a real squeeze on that narrow platform!! 😱 As it happens, I now live very near the northern end of one branch of the (er) Northern line - but I'm not saying which one !! 😎😎

[@jacksugden8190]

I used to use the old island platform at Angel, it was reconstructed in 1992, remember the old walkways and lift shafts and the old station building very well.

[@duchygardens]

See that? That's a reference to Newman & Baddiel's "History Today" that is. Brilliant.🤣🤣🤣

[@johnbristow8099]

I remember using the old single platform Angel station when I was at City University.

[@LunaDragofelis]

Even the new Angel station platform is rather narrow compared to Munich underground platforms. Munich underground started operating in 1971.

[@NeilFLiversidge]

I love the old-style signage. There was a pre-war 'arrow' sign at Wakefield Westgate station pointing toward the air-raid shelter, but sadly it was swept away a few years back when it was modernised. I just googled it and it's mentioned here: www.tracesofwar.com/sights/10864/Sign-Air-Raid-Shelter-Wakefield.htm

[@DoubleACbg]

“Island platforms”... I’ve encountered quite a few on the London Underground and in the New York Subway system. Strangely enough, in the first location I lodged at in Deptford when I first visited London, there was a map of Manhattan subway lines hanging in the toilet.

[@edepillim]

I lived at Morden so the Northern line was my transportation into the west end. I didn’t like it one bit. After a few yards we were plunged into darkness for the remainder. As for those island platforms, far too dangerous for today’s crowds. During the war my father did the daily trip from Morden to Edgware to work at an aircraft factory. I remember seeing a picture of a double decker bus disappearing down a bomb crater above the tube line, Balham ....see bus in a bomb crater 1940 on google. When l used the line the rolling stock was 1935 vintage. Much better now. BTW l got stuck on the bakerloo line just before Regents Park for an hour and a half, old stock, no p a system, summer rush hour, no air conditioning, overcrowded, overheated. I was beginning to panic but luckily my Tom Sharpe book, Wilt, took my mind off things. After that l travelled to Paddington by bus.

[@josephteller9715]

Your videos continue to be a wonderful calming thing for me in these days of pandemic.

[@michaeljames4904]

0:42 photobomb there from the Bethamite panopticon, of Millbank Prison (the feeder, National Penitentiary, for those sentenced to transportation to Oz)... _very striking seeing it alongside the mapped railway lines!_

[@buzzofftoxicblog791]

Thank you brings back memories 😊live in Pembrokeshire now #buzzofftoxic

[@ianashleigh]

Here's a question in 2022 Young Jago: does any of the Bank Station extension with the new King William Street entrance use any of the original tunnels for pedestian access to the station? Time for a revisit?

[@LeoStarrenburg]

Caution: Doors may open unexpectedly ! Danger: Safety labels may fall off ! 4:04

[@carld3687]

Thanks Jago. Very interesting as usual! I'd love to know more about the station that used to be between Old Street and Angel. I used to drive past the brick building that was there before it was replaced by the metal sculpture that covers the ventilation system I think. I remember that above the sign that read 'Central Street' there was a piece of art by a known French street artist called 'Space invader". I hope it's being preserved somewhere after having been taken down

[@ttrjw]

I understand the gap between the two banks of escalators at Angel is designed to provide passive provision for interchange with Chelsea-Hackney.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

…politely hinting at future videos? yes, please! your takes are sarcastic and witty, but have history in them so of course more history videos are wanted!

[@BJHolloway1]

Excellent as usual - keep them coming have you ever done a video on the very large Goods Yard at Bishopsgate - the one that burned down one Saturday in the mid late 60s?

[@simonwest9450]

Those photos of the old Angel platform really are some of the bleakest photos I’ve ever seen. Looks almost black and white

[@paulflanagan6591]

I love your videos. Not only are they interesting but you deliver the narrative with knowledge and humour.

[@rodjones117]

Interesting that Angel has the longest (highest?) escalator on the Tube network. I always thought it was Highgate.

[@DavidShepheard]

I used to visit Angel, before the station rebuild and it was a very unplesant station.

[@Strudlfaust]

"Angel has an insanely wide platform" even though that wider platform is about the same size as regular platforms on newer metro systems

[@JagoHazzard]

Strudlfaust I’m just a country boy from Zone 3.

[@lescalverley8335]

Angel was originally an island platform. The Northbound line was diverted on to a new alignment with the original line being removed and the platform widened as a result.

[@Cornodebassetto]

Les Calverley indeed, Euston has the same on it’s Northern line platforms. The original island platforms can still be experienced at Clapham North and Clapham Common.

[@Puckoon2002]

You can see how "wide" the island platform was at Angel, there is a brass strip, between the tiles, running the full length of the Southbound platform approximately along the line of the old platform face. Also the entrance to Angel in Islington High St is a new one, the original entrance is around the corner in City Rd, using lifts only. The rebuild came about because the old lifts were in major need of rebuilding/replacement, so the new building erected on Islington High St had the requirement of fitting the new station set into the planning permission.

[@spazda_mx5]

Island-type underground platforms freak me out for some reason.

[@bb32112]

Interesting video! Keep up the great work 👍🏻

[@fosterfuchs]

3 years later we finally found out why the roundel at 3:44 is on a spike.

balham tube disaster during ww2 bomb hit ubove would be a good vid

[@bennettste]

Up and down the city Road, in and out the Eagle that's the way the money goes, POP goes the weasel

[@luxford60]

And those lines are on a sign on the wall of The Eagle on City Road. Possibly the only pub to feature in a nursery rhyme.

[@iankemp1131]

@@luxford60 But not the commonest form of that nursery rhyme - though equally applicable. It took me years to realise what it meant, not being a Cockney.

baker street is far better its got style and looks victorian love it plus has a song after it

[@andrewwigglesworth3030]

up the city road" ... in and out the Eagle ...

[@tornadoe13]

Im suprised you didnt mention kennington loop.

[@ParaSytius]

I remember the Angel platform back in the early 80's as a young child, I thought it was pretty incredible that it was so different to other stations I had seen. I was rather confused when I eventually got to see the station again after it's 90's update (which I was unaware of at the time) and wondering if I had imagined it all.

[@ianmoseley9910]

Para Sitius You could argue that Mile End is effectively 2 island platforms!

[@iankemp1131]

@@ianmoseley9910 Indeed, but they are nice and wide. Like Hammersmith, Acton Town, Earls Court, Finchley Road etc.

[@Azul_Pshye]

I love the northern line it in itself is a cross cut of London life far better than some others

[@exlibrex]

In the 1980s I worked in Regis House that sits over the old King William Street Station (that was the 1930s building that has since been replaced). Once we were given a tour underground and we were led through an anonymous door in the basement. I don't remember any station buildings but we were led through the tunnel and I saw WWII posters and other air raid shelter paraphernalia. We walked all the way under the river and I remember there were gaps where you could look down and see people waiting at an underground platform at London Bridge station.

[@JagoHazzard]

That sounds really interesting. I wonder if all that survives today.

[@iankemp1131]

Fascinating - yes Regis House replaced the old station buildings. You got further than I did on my visit, the tunnels had standing water once you got about half way under the river. Maybe they pumped them out a bit or they dried out, as my visit was very early 80s. The Wikipedia article on KWSt suggests that the tunnels have been severed since then by further Northern Line upgrade work.

[@Pauldjreadman]

Amazingly these videos are addictive. I think it’s because I like history. You should collaborate with Jools Guide who tours London. If it wasn’t for the undrgound London would be really screwed.

[@davidpeters6536]

Last time I was there it still had the island...

[@BaseReality]

How old is the sign at 3:49 ? It it possible it's coming up to a century old? And maybe an idea for a future video, picking out which lines have the average oldest signage.

[@yusufturner1971]

The Angel, Islington platform was so narrow, the new tunnel is clearly a welcome update! Very interesting videos, so thank you! 🙏🏽

[@JagoHazzard]

Glad you’re enjoying them!

[@yusufturner1971]

@@JagoHazzard I do so if you're happy producing them, then I'm very happy to watch them! 😃

[@szkoclaw]

I've once worked in a warehouse situated in abandoned tunnels in Clapham. The warehouse itself was half-abandoned, too, holding only some very old files with no permanent personnel. Very deep underground, very claustrophobic.

[@JagoHazzard]

Cool, I’d heard there were some underground warehouses in that area.

[@paulqueripel3493]

Was it one of these en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_deep-level_shelters ?

[@szkoclaw]

@@paulqueripel3493 Possible, they looked similar. There were some active tunnels right next to the tunnels, judging by the noise, too.

[@Puckoon2002]

Those "abandoned" tunnels at Clapham were one of several deep level tubes, planned to be used as an express line, but were built during WW2 as bomb shelters. There are others near Goodge St, Camden Town and Belsize Park stations, check the Subterranean Britannica website @ www.subbrit.org.uk

[@JagoHazzard]

Puckoon2002 I did a video on them, as it happens.

[@Ibis117]

Clapham Common was the first station I commuted into the city from in 1982. Things could get a bit fraught on the island platform when it was very busy.

[@4444colin]

Always loved the Kennington tube station dome. Being born and raised in London but now living abroad, I feel I can critize without guilt. London has always let itself down with allowing planners to demolish the great buildings and neighbor hoods whilst keeping the crap. The people just roll over and allow. Maybe the people don't realize they have a voice and would rather just complain. I am amazed the E&C bakerloo station is still standing. Just my opinion from a far away safe distance. LOL🤗

[@jimg9820]

I recall the double platform at The Angel from the '80s. There used to be a regular comedy gig on Sunday lunchtime nearby that we'd occasionally visit. I was never there during rush hour but I can understand the old double platform would have got very crowded.

[@MrGreatplum]

Fantastic stuff - I like those central platforms but these days you’d want them wider!

[@mikaelt3241]

Hej from Sweden! I like your videos! I haven't seen all of them. Have you talked about electricity, has there been any big problems, how much do they use etc, etc.

[@DavidJCane]

You could also have mentioned that there are some original C&SLR 1890s wall tiles on the stairs at Elephant and Castle. They did the same platform infilling exercise on the southbound bank branch platform at Euston when the northbound tunnel was diverted to provide cross a platform interchange with the Victoria line

[@amethyst7084]

Really good video Jago - would be great if the island platform at Clapham Common and Clapham North were widened, like the one at Angel was. Modern passenger numbers require it.

[@highpath4776]

Worth a look at the original Stockwell Station Too. (oh, you did, sort of) Angel used to have lifts the side exit is still in place. Add a date for Angels platform change, it seems like yesterday. used to give me panic attacks on them.

[@tomdalton498]

Just answered a question I've had for years and that was why angel had such big platforms. Cheers for that

[@johnvincent2792]

More more more 🙏🙏🙏

[@London1064]

Very interesting 👍

[@johnhealy6260]

Brilliant.

[@carolinesexplosion]

Loved this video too, thank you! Have you done Down Street tube?

[@JagoHazzard]

Not yet! It’s on my list.

[@carolinesexplosion]

@@JagoHazzard excellent!! People think I’m mad because I’m crazy about the tube, railways and their buildings. I’ve been to the disused tunnels at Clapham South (I think) and Euston. I’ve even been to 55 Broadway. Fascinating building

[@francescascanlan4549]

Ayyy, Kennington was my local station back in 2018

[@PhlanMichellePurss]

As a railways history enthusiast from Australia (Yes that Penal Colony, LOL. But I’m Aboriginal) enjoy these kind of video’s please make more?

[@JagoHazzard]

Thanks! There are plenty on the way!

[@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy]

Love it! This is superlative journalism

[@trevoruthy]

Hi friend Only just discovered these great clips of yours ! This is just the sort of thing I watch now instead of watching the telly. Keep producing them mate, you're making a good job of them !!!

[@JagoHazzard]

Thanks!

[@soberhippie]

Those narrow stations are a deathtrap

[@JagoHazzard]

I have mixed feelings. I like the original layout, but I can’t help but feel nervous for the passengers when the station is particularly busy.

[@terryoconnor8543]

Really enjoy all your stories about the tube. The old Angel station terrified me as a child , I used to wait halfway up the staircase!. Would love to know more about the old station between Old Street, and Angel. Look forward to watching more of your videos, do some more stair challenges, I always count the steps now!!! Kind regards...

[@JagoHazzard]

Ah yes, City Road, that would be a good topic!

[@alexhatfield2987]

As a Battersea Boy, Clapham Common is my local Northern Line station and I strangely agree with your sentiments about its "look". Lived near Kennington and agree with you there too. Live near Battersea Park now and can't wait for the NL spur to the power station complex. Keep up the good work. I think I'll subscribe...!

[@JagoHazzard]

Many thanks!

[@Boabywankenobi]

2:15: yes, this video idea would interest me. Has it been made?

[@JagoHazzard]

Not yet, I keep meaning to. Guess I should get on that.

[@Boabywankenobi]

@@JagoHazzard : Only recently found your channel, it is superb. Any new content is greatly appreciated.

[@darmtb]

2.15 I’ve walked by that and thought it was something to do underground. Please do a video on it. Thanks for the info on the insanely wide platform. I had that thought, but never guessed it was another tube.

[@JagoHazzard]

As it happens, I finished making a video on City Road this week, so it should be up in the next couple of weeks!

[@InRegardz]

im not even from London and i find this so interesting

[@daisyshell8637]

Another interesting tale of a section of the Tube about which most of us know nothing. Now here's a question for you ...I live in Harrow and often travel from Harrow and Wealdstone into Central London. There's a noticeable difference in level between the station platform and the floor of the train, to the extent that it is very difficult for a disabled person to use. London Overground also use the station but their rolling stock is newer - until it gets to Euston, where, again, there is a big different in height between train and platform. It's quite an old station and as I'm sure you know, was built to serve the main line trains running from Euston to the Midlands. After this ramble, the question is - was the Bakerloo rolling stock originally higher so that passengers could step easily onto the platform? I don't remember it being so. Any ideas? Daisy

[@JagoHazzard]

No, the Bakerloo has always been very low, but the service to Harrow and Wealdstone actually pre-dates the Bakerloo. In 1917, the Bakerloo took over the service from the London and North Western Railway, who operated conventional trains. So they were stuck with the old platforms. Actually, the video I’m currently filming (which should go up in about 3 weeks) indirectly deals with this very subject. Many thanks for commenting!

[@isa9engineer430]

the bakerloo used to go to stanmore

[@patl709]

isa9engineer a by which route? I believe that the Jubilee line to Stanmore was originally the Metropolitan line but I maybe mistaken.

[@PopeLando]

@@patl709 Most changed line on the Underground. Built by the Metropolitan Railway out of Baker Street, it was later connected to a deep tube and three extra stations and transferred as a whole new branch of the Bakerloo line. Then in 1979 the Bakerloo branch to Stanmore became part of the Jubilee Line (without which, the original JL would have been 4 stations long!)

[@Krzyszczynski]

Where tube stock and mainline stock used the same stations, I believe there was a "compromise" height for the platforms - which was a little too high for the tube trains and a little too low for the bigger ones. Jackson and Croome refer to them more than once in "Rails Through The Clay". Part of the aborted Northern Heights project would have involved platform rebuilds of this kind.

[@dambrooks7578]

Old Street station is very close to City Road which still has The Eagle pub on it, why mention this or why is it famous...? It is the pub that is mentioned in the old nursery rhyme Pop Goes the Weasel, well you like mention of London relics... 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@JagoHazzard]

There used to be a station on City Road itself, too!

[@dambrooks7578]

@@JagoHazzard I didn't know that, I like looking at the lyrics in old rhymes and songs that casually mention spots in London, then go and try to find them 🤩