Ralphs' school in SF was the same in the late 90s/early 2000s with Kurt/Ralph. Very tough. All the top guys (who didnt get hurt) went on to have schools and be top black belts. I had the privilege to meet Relson once at the Pan Ams in 2003? He has an aura to him - you know he is the real deal... Thanks for this video!
@bananapatch91183 жыл бұрын
Love it ! My grandson and I were able to meet him at his school here in South Carolina last month….a great honor for us.
@ronin63276 жыл бұрын
More of these videos please! Loving the story and history.
@awakenotwoke69306 жыл бұрын
I just switched from a Rilion Gracie Academy (got to train @ headquarters in Miami as well) to Fight Works (Relson) Academy. It is a world of difference. Heavy amounts of Self Defense based Jiu jitsu and the techniques are full of invisible concepts and are very “shark like” in its style. Simple yet highly effective technique. I love it. My Professor is a 3rd stripe & Relson’s 40 Black Belt. I’m blessed indeed.
@BananaBabys4 жыл бұрын
relsons school on queen street was my first school at 16 years old. we were the only few teenagers that trained. it was mostly older guys. I still miss that school and is my favorite because the people there were very cool. Also I miss the self defense aspect that is much lacking in other schools.
@hoppy7602 жыл бұрын
Great video and great to see my professor, Carlos Valente mentioned in it as well.
@IronAjaxxx3 ай бұрын
My Instructor got his black belt from Jim Thrift who is a Relson Black belt. I met him at a Seminar he held in MD. 🔥Video.
@spaceace416 жыл бұрын
I had the honor of attending a seminar with him at his affiliate academy in Columbus, OH this past March. Relson was awesome and has a great sense of hunor. Really nice guy.
@wingoreviewsboxingandmma36672 жыл бұрын
Romolo is using that room gymnastics room at the university of Hawaii with spring board floor aka suspended mats
@cabalofdemons6 жыл бұрын
Relson is the shark. He teaches tried and true fundamental BJJ for self-defense.
@scarred105 жыл бұрын
Do they spar with strikes like Gracie academy, if not it's not self defense
@Kimuraking5 жыл бұрын
@@scarred10 They do for sure. That's why Dave was saying they actually learn how to fight at Relsons academy
@PapaCael4 жыл бұрын
@@scarred10 in fact, you will find rougher than combatives' sparring on many Relson's affiliates.
@Ninja-iu4gg2 жыл бұрын
So glad I joined jiujitsu under the valente bros so greatful. Self defense for life
@wingoreviewsboxingandmma36672 жыл бұрын
When I lived in Oahu his schools were everywhere
@dckona36342 ай бұрын
I remember being humbled AF in Kaneohe I think it’s in town now kapahulu area I think….. coach Ron was awesome!
@michaelgondokusumo53366 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, I am Michael of Indonesia , I trained with Relson Gracie around your time from 1990 till 1993 .... I recalled some of name Hanson Inoye , Rumulo ..... I left Hawaii to Jakarta, Indonesia in 1993 ...... It is nice to hear all of you .....
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
"Bali" Mike!!! you were one of my early training partners. you were a blue belt when i started. how are you? it's been YEARS! i hope all is well. don't be a stranger, ok?
@michaelgondokusumo53366 жыл бұрын
Ryan, Where do you live now ? How do I contact you ?
@michaelgondokusumo53366 жыл бұрын
my whatsapp +6281510088700 or my email michael.reginaputera @gmail.com
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
KamaJiuJitsu@gmail.com I live in the Dallas, TX part of the country now.
@kayle12234 жыл бұрын
Kama Jiu-Jitsu it’s so cool to be able to see two training partners from the old days find each other again!
@tomb94202 жыл бұрын
I had a guy who was under relson when he was in hawaii and he showed me how to to do attacks from the guard like arm bars
@patrickgaul35265 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing the Relson story. I have been training under with him since 05 and received my black in 2018. Always a blast learning from him and the other teammates under Association.
@KamaJiuJitsu5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the comment, Patrick!
@rhinobridge4 жыл бұрын
@Patrick Gaul can I ask some questions about him? I want to start tranining and I can choose between Rolker Gracie and Relson Gracie. I like the self-defense approach Relson has but he seems the type of person that won't accept suggestions or questioning. Is he like that? He also looks very old. Does he still train with the students phisically? Is he open to new moves? From what he says, it makes me believe he only teaches what he has learned with his father and doesn't accept new stuff developed later. What do you know about him?
@patrickgaul35264 жыл бұрын
rmagcastro There is not another Relson. He is old skool just like the rest from that generation. There are plenty of black belts that balance old and new ideas. What area you in?
@DUARTE996 жыл бұрын
Training with Grand Masters Relson and Rickson are at the top of my bucket list. Great job on these BJJ historical videos Ryan! Love them! 👍👍 Also, how can I order a cool Kama Jiu-Jitsu shirt?
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
Email us at KamaJiuJitsu@gmail.com with your size.
@davibourne38566 жыл бұрын
Relson is a beast, in his student Koral belt Malibu. "He was the best one I've seen in a street fight".
@nic77316 жыл бұрын
I love how nice your videos are man, it’s like sitting down with a wise friend and listening to them, you’re genuine. Hope more people come to this channel
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Nic!
@HawaiiJapan8085 жыл бұрын
Great history/story, I remember the fist class I went to around 1994. Thanks from Kauai.
@brendant91276 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the history videos Ryan. I find them very interesting. Keep up the great work Rusty as well! You guys inspire me along my jiu jitsu path.
@pinchesmurf6 жыл бұрын
You've had a hell of a journey Professor, love the channel, you're giving great insights to the history of the art.
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@wingoreviewsboxingandmma36672 жыл бұрын
Romolo teaches at the University of Hawaii now
@michaelgondokusumo53365 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, It ‘s to hear about the story about Relson and the Gracie Jiujitsu school in Hawaii .... Bring lots of memories..... I remember the twin brothers, Cofee and others .... including you ..... I have not practiced since I left Hawaii .... I met Rumolus once when I visited Hawaii in short trip when my aunt passed away .... Glad that you still put on youtube regarding Relson and others in Hawaii ......
@KamaJiuJitsu5 жыл бұрын
Bali Mike! why have you not begun training again?! if i remember right, you were a 4-stripe blue, back in 1992. am i correct?
@michaelgondokusumo53365 жыл бұрын
Yes ..... I had blue belt 4 stripes ...
@michaelgondokusumo53365 жыл бұрын
I still think which one you sholuld I take .... De Been jujitsu or Gracie Barra ....both of them afflicte to Carlos Gracie Junior ..... Of course, I think Gracie Barra should be better and being tought by Black belt Brazilian and others Australian .... Den Been Jiujitsu is closed to my home .... Gracie Barra is one hour from my home. I will take a look the class first ..... thank you for encouraging me .....
@KamaJiuJitsu5 жыл бұрын
try the closest one first. you having trained at GM Relson's in the early, EARLY old school days, you can easily tell if what you experience today is what you want to learn. i'd bet your mind will be blown at the differences then vs now...and not necessarily positively blown.
@chicodecoster6 жыл бұрын
I've been blessed to share some mat time with both Relson and Rickson. I train at the Gracie Academy in Torrance whenever I get to the LA area, so I have been able to train with Ryron and Rener Gracie as well. I have also been on the mat with Shell Young from Tako Jiu Jitsu when he visited Relson Gracie Jiu Jitsu Las Vegas. When I heard his last name I brought up your videos and Kama Jiu Jitsu and Shell said he was your cousin. Too cool. Hope to share some mat time learning from you one day.
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you met Shel. If you go to HI, he runs our Honolulu affiliate. He’s a great guy and very old school in his training and his thinking.
@FabioBrazilil4 жыл бұрын
Muito bom ver o respeito pelo mestre. É difícil ver um americano ter raizes de artista marcial. Parabéns.
@nathandubois12544 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos and history lesson ..It must have been so awesome to train under these guys ..straight from the sourse. Priceless
@KamaJiuJitsu4 жыл бұрын
it was. i didn't know how lucky i was until years later.
@KamaJiuJitsu4 жыл бұрын
i always thought they'd all be around forever. it never crossed my mind that we all get "old."
@nathandubois12544 жыл бұрын
@@KamaJiuJitsu that's awesome I been doing some karate for a few years a little bit of throws leg sweeps are involved . In today's day is it still ideal to find a a legit jitsu school?
@KamaJiuJitsu4 жыл бұрын
That’s the ideal.
@nathandubois12544 жыл бұрын
@@KamaJiuJitsu good news thanks lot im from rhode islsnd and ill stat doing some bjj research for local dojos im so wooried about it being watered down .i dig the pure knowledge your dishing out
@elijaheternity96686 жыл бұрын
I heard from a friend of mine who trained with the Gracies since he was a kid who used to do privates with Heilo said that Relson was the bad boy of the bunch. He said when you trained with him he would teach you how to destroy your opponent. I heard he was a no nonsense guy. A trained street fighter who don't take shit from no one
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
That was very true from my experience training with him, too.
@elijaheternity96686 жыл бұрын
It was funny because I wanted to start up again from a long lay off and I started drilling and doing all the exercise drills from Judo/Jiujitsu you know Armlock drills, escapes, mount, and every time I was in a position I would think of a strike (punch,knee,elbow) and he said to me " you remind me of Relson" I said why? He said that's his mentality there was one time where he said if you get somebody's back and you can't get in for the rear naked Choke,grab him by his head and bang it into the floor I started laughing..
@joebeast155 жыл бұрын
Elijah Eternity I’m a black belt under Relson and yes that’s true. Relson isn’t above head butting you in your face. He doesn’t play nice, and everything he does HURTS
@karly75676 жыл бұрын
Great video, I've watched it 3 times. I'd love more videos about the history you know.
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned!
@tacodaddy43094 жыл бұрын
Dude, I knew you were from Hawaii, seen this video and I’m like.. I knew it. Love your vids. Awesome to know you one good Bradddah
@terrellkluting5370 Жыл бұрын
Ill be seeing you in Chino Valley soon! Super stoked to meet you and train with you.
@KamaJiuJitsu Жыл бұрын
The only Chino Valley I know is in Southern California. Do you know something I don’t?
@terrellkluting5370 Жыл бұрын
@@KamaJiuJitsu chino valley Arizona. At Tri-city jujitsu? June 10th
@KamaJiuJitsu Жыл бұрын
Yes sir!!!
@elvergalarga60164 жыл бұрын
I trained at o2 under the onzukas for a little while but it became if you train here you can’t train anywhere else, and when push comes to shove $120 a month is a hard sell in Hawaii when $60 per month gets you on the mat with former members of the national judo team and every neighborhood has their own mma gyms
@KamaJiuJitsu4 жыл бұрын
Tako and O2 are my “home academies” when I visit HI.
@NicoGF6 жыл бұрын
Lately knew about this channel and also gjjr (gracie jiujitsu rocks, a podcast) both are phenomenal! Keep it up. Love your first hand stories, tips and concepts of the art. sound wise, well rounded human being, best regards from uruguay south america
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Nico.
@dylangebhart5507 Жыл бұрын
My coach found his professor, Carlson Jr at a club also. I'm seeing a pattern here!
@KamaJiuJitsu Жыл бұрын
Yeah, we found the party animal professors. We can learn from them and party with them after class!
@mako25346 жыл бұрын
Really miss training at Todd's gym. Incredible knowledge.
@Ninj-gw1qu6 жыл бұрын
Excelent bjj chanel, probably my favorite and i never officialy trained bjj. I did what you skipped over.
@kellyokamoto16046 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan, really enjoyed this vid and the history of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. As a former Island boy myself-born and raised on Oahu, now in So. Cal., I appreciate the connection of Relson in Hawaii. Keep doing these bi-optics on Gracie family members, please?
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
SoCal? And you haven’t visited our SoCal campus in irvine?!
@MonacoRocha3 жыл бұрын
I lived in Brasil SP For about 6 years .. My Brazilian Wife was begging me to Quit Karate ,TKD Boxing, & start Training in BJJ, this was 1985 I totally ignored her telling her she didn't know what she was talking about.... OMG !!! What An Arrogant Dumb Stupid Fool I was ... I had a Bjj Gym Next door.... Gracie Black Belts Teaching..... I stayed ignorant till 1999... But then it was to late I was on the road ( Cirque du Soleil) for many years..... Well I should have listened .... F....
@terminaltranscendence84224 жыл бұрын
Great video Kama🙏🏿
@jimmycve6 жыл бұрын
Great info in this video. Thank you Ryan! Much respect
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@morpheus18186 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan! Great info...
@evankrhodes5 жыл бұрын
Where do Sam Mahi and Ron Shiraki fall into the first blackbelts under Relson in Hawaii?
@KamaJiuJitsu5 жыл бұрын
Sam, I trained with until I left HI in ‘92. I think he was a purple belt when I left. He used to kick my ass, 😆 Ronn, I never met.
@evankrhodes5 жыл бұрын
@@KamaJiuJitsu thank you. We talked about your video in class today.
@KamaJiuJitsu5 жыл бұрын
awesome! what academy is that?
@junon4 жыл бұрын
I got to train with Sam Mahi when he was instructing the day classes for the Onzuka brothers in the early/mid 2000's and I really liked his style. I remember whenever I'd take a day class then go to class later that night and do something I learned earlier in the day both Mike and Chris would comment "you learned that from Mahi didn't you?". He was a big intimidating guy but he was super humble. Unfortunately I don't think he is teaching anymore.
@evankrhodes4 жыл бұрын
@@junon I still train with him at Relson Waterfront in Kalihi, well that was before our academy was shut down because of the pandemic. It's funny you mention his style, all that train with him regularly get comments from other guys regarding the style and teaching of Sam. Hopefully we'll be back training again soon. God bless brother🤙🏽🤙🏽
@Mr850man6 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing man, keep it up
@manonguyen90165 жыл бұрын
Good knowledge passed down thanks
@wingoreviewsboxingandmma36672 жыл бұрын
Porrada means brawling and fighting
@KarmaLodroSenge5 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan, Since you have trained with both Relson & Rickson....what are your thoughts on Relson's style of Jiu-Jitsu vs Rickson's style of Jiu-Jitsu? Would you find the two of them very comparable as far as pressure, weight distribution, etc? Would a Relson school teach everything a Rickson school (like Kama Jiu-Jitsu) teaches as far as that stuff and details, and the "invisible Jiu-Jitsu stuff" go?
@KamaJiuJitsu5 жыл бұрын
Both are top of the food chain. I’ve learned valuable lifelong lessons from both. Relson told me straight up, Rickson is the best. Very few people know Rickson’s JiuJitsu, so it would be difficult for ANYONE to teach it, even if they think they know the concepts and watched a video of or attended a seminar taught by Rickson or one of his handful of firsthand black belts. I was pretty knowledgeable when I came to Dave as a brown belt. But turns out there was so much I didn’t even know existed. My cousin Shel, who flew to CA just for a private with Rickson a couple years ago, had his mind blown at what he didn’t know that he didn’t know. And he’s a long time black belt under Egan and Enson Inoue, two of the very first people who trained under GM Relson in HI. Hope that answers your question.
@KamaJiuJitsu5 жыл бұрын
We Live Marketing yes, for sure.
@jsvboston5 жыл бұрын
not heard any videos on Renzo... tru Heart of a fighter. never back down from a challenger. even being shot 5x beating last of 3 thugs .
@byronjuarez6564 жыл бұрын
I'd love to learn how John Danaher (Renzo Gracie BB) adapted and evolved his style of BJJ within the Gracie curriculum!
@Rhardebeck6 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks for sharing. Pound that like button
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TheCheapReefer4 жыл бұрын
Relsons black belt Dr . Jeff Hudson is my lineage
@wsmaga6 жыл бұрын
Awesome story, thanks.
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@counterkidnapping17374 жыл бұрын
Now, imagine what you've learned from the start Judo, Wrestling, GJJ then you mix it, boom, you're dangerous.
@ChristianWarrior766 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@mrfrederick7596 жыл бұрын
Excellent video thank you!
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Robertgz946 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy that you met him at a club lol.
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
😆 not if you knew him!
@Gong149215 жыл бұрын
Hello Ryan, I found a Relson Gracie Academy in my town, as well as a Gracie Academy where they follow the curriculum set by Rener and Royce Gracie (Gracie University). Both academies have a fundamentals course, but it seems that the Gracie University affiliate has a more step-by-step curriculum. From the look of it, it seems that Relson's Academy has more members. From your experience being involved in Relson's academy, is their fundamentals class similar and step-by-step as well? I appreciate all of your help.
@motorflunky4 жыл бұрын
I have trained both. Relson's program is more self defense and includes strikes
@MonacoRocha3 жыл бұрын
POHADA !! I Love that Word...
@jtwhalen54386 жыл бұрын
Super informative. Thank you! Curious to know why you moved to Cali from Hawaii. I'm moving to Honolulu here shortly and plan to look into the academy.
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
i got a job in '92 as a securities analyst. there were only about 3-4 entities in HI that had them, and most of them were small shops that weren't hiring. so i could keep training, i moved to Torrance, CA. eventually moved to OC, which i liked better.
@Pendraeg5 жыл бұрын
One of my bigger regrets was not training with Relson in the nine years I lived in Hawai'i. I saw those flyers at UH, too, but felt to invested in TKD to change styles (trained with Joe Bennet first, then Danny Kim). BTW, were you still training with Relson when Phil Cardella started?
@KamaJiuJitsu5 жыл бұрын
i left HI for CA before Phil started.
@lukphom37274 жыл бұрын
Kama Jiu-Jitsu how long did you train with Relson for
@0nlyBigT6 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on Royce Gracie black belts calling themselves Royce Gracie black belts, because everyone in the lineage currently get the belt directly from Royce despite not actually training or learning from him directly.
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
I did a video on true lineage a little while ago...
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
Here you go, Tyler. Let me know if I addressed your question. If not, lemme know. Thanks! What’s Your REAL BJJ Lineage? Don’t Lie Now. - Kama Vlog kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6CVoGZ_d5umkKs
@byronjuarez6564 жыл бұрын
@Kaz lemon I disagree on one point - I believe Royce was open-minded to cross training. Royce used wrestling double-leg takedowns in UFC 1.also mastered boxing's speed bag (UFC 3 promo, I believe) and he used Jon Jones style oblique kicks since the beginning.
@jsvboston5 жыл бұрын
why not talk about Renzo? must see (Renzo and Relson talk about street fights) in there past... awsome and raws laughs! do a video on Renzo..plz
@Rollsgracie43 жыл бұрын
Rickson gracie doesn’t smoke🤣😂😅
@sliderx18976 жыл бұрын
if u dont mind me asking Prof. Ryan, what was his reaction to u training with Prof. Kama?
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
GM Relson prolly doesn’t know me from Adam these days. I haven’t trained with him in decades.
@user-bn4ov9sp5s6 жыл бұрын
Hmm Diddent BJ Penn train train with Relson... BJ is some where in that mix think.. idk im a huge fan of BJ penn .. great content man..
@ToddAtkinsShow5 жыл бұрын
HomeBizNetworks.com BJ didn’t train at Relson’s academy regularly but his brother Jay Penn did.
@ToddAtkinsShow5 жыл бұрын
BJ came up under Ralph Gracie in Cali and the Nova Uniao guys mostly after that. Leandro Nyza was the first guy BJ brought out from Brazil to Hilo. Charuto Verissimo came after that.
@s2166746 жыл бұрын
You've mentioned Todd Tanaka a couple of times now in your videos. How good is he? His school has the best schedule of any academy I've ever seen. Incredible access to training, and if I ever get that way, I would be interested in checking it out. But, there are other options in the area, so that makes me curious.
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
Try them all. At the end of the day, the best teacher is the one you “click” with.
@robsudo22082 жыл бұрын
Drake and Bruddah Wayne out of RGW. Miss those guys and team no love 🤙
@ogwitmo6 жыл бұрын
I remember watching Relson teach in a portable building next to the fire station in Pupukea, might have been mid to late 90’s.. and seeing Egan training when I was a student athlete at university of Hawaii in 1998... cool story.. mahalo
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
I remember getting smashed by Egan...
@ogwitmo6 жыл бұрын
Kama Jiu-Jitsu glad I found your channel... as far as Egan goes I’m pretty sure he was on P.E.D’s , in fact I’m 99.9% sure he was... were you and Dave born in Hawaii?
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
We were.
@halehualalai6 жыл бұрын
Mahalos!
@djgdjg66126 жыл бұрын
I'm curious...How good was Rorion compared to Relson and Rickson? I've heard someone say that Rorion was considered the best teacher but not sure how good he was compared to his brothers.
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
GM Rorion was really, really good, from what I was told. He’s never lost a fight, either.
@rnunez706815 жыл бұрын
@@KamaJiuJitsu did he compete as much as Relson and Rickson? Did he have street fights too? I haven't seen much history on Rorion as his brothers.
@buffalospringfield91405 жыл бұрын
@@rnunez70681 Rorion put aside his fighter carear and start to work on manager administration Jiu Jitsu and his brother carear for exemple, Royce carear.
@BrysonBukoski5 жыл бұрын
Cheeeehuuuu! RSA!
@addisonporter13165 жыл бұрын
What do you mean when you say Steve Maxwell is no longer a black belt under Helson? If Helson gave him is black belt isn't that how it works?
@KamaJiuJitsu5 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. I think Prof Steve no longer affiliates with GM Relson. As a result, his new master will determine his rank, not Relson. Of course, I could be wrong about his affiliation.
@thewarrior67844 жыл бұрын
Will you make a video about Rorion?
@KamaJiuJitsu4 жыл бұрын
Maybe...... - Rusty
@thewarrior67844 жыл бұрын
@@KamaJiuJitsu I'm just saying, because you made videos about Rickson and Relson. Making at least one about Rorion would complete the "trio".
@KamaJiuJitsu4 жыл бұрын
We haven’t done a biopic on Rickson quite yet, but it’s on the list of videos to do for sure.
@thewarrior67844 жыл бұрын
@@KamaJiuJitsu really? A Rickson's bio would be great!
@dannychampion252 жыл бұрын
In San Antonio Texas there are two Gracie relson and Carlson what is the difference
@dannychampion252 жыл бұрын
I mean academy's in San Antonio Texas what is the difference
@abdushodmonov95686 жыл бұрын
Do you do promos?
@brianhatch335 жыл бұрын
Ryan, I love your videos. You have been training for over 30 years...why are you only a first degree black belt? Rickson in his grandmaster acceptance speech laid out the criteria for all the black belt levels and you and Dave Kama have far exceeded them. Yet, you and Dave our fairly low black belts but, have yet to receive your proper promotions. I feel as though Rickson may slight his nonfamialal students in favor of family promotions(Gracie, Machado, Valente, etc). Thoughts? I could be completely wrong but, just my perspective.
@KamaJiuJitsu5 жыл бұрын
2nd now. But I got my BB 3/2012 from Dave. As far as the ranks, I don’t care. Neither does Dave. Our rank is what our master gives us, based on what he feels. The timeframe is only a guideline. Dave, the KJJ instructors, and I are turning out awesome KJJ practitioners. That’s all that matters at the end of the day.
You would be good either way, if they’re running things the way they’re supposed to.
@KamaJiuJitsu5 жыл бұрын
historically, both. present day, hard to say. i'll have a video up on Sr soon.
@Aaaasss-t4q4 жыл бұрын
RIckson did lose though in competition.
5 жыл бұрын
relson the black sheep of the family that hardly nobody knows exist quite sad tbh
@bazokie6 жыл бұрын
"I'm not sure Steve is still a black belt under ..."!!? What does that mean? Did he not pay his dues and get demoted to blue? Did he suck so much in competitions that he demoted himself? Relson an indian giver???
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
Uh, no. How did you make the leap to demotion and sucking in competition? He’s no longer affiliated with GM Relson, so that means further promotions will be at the hands of another grandmaster. Dude, lay off the soy. Just sayin.
@bazokie6 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhhh, right, so if he were to get a stripe or whatever it would be from a different teacher so he would be "under" them now. Of course. Sorry, brain fart. Thanks for the clarification.
@bazokie6 жыл бұрын
and it wasn't soy, it was sake...
@KamaJiuJitsu6 жыл бұрын
Sake will do that to you, clean as it is. That’s why we like scotch and whiskey here 😉
@cabalofdemons6 жыл бұрын
Scott was the first non-Brazilian to go from white belt to black belt under Relson. He's a 3rd degree under Relson but broke away sometime in the late 2000s. He runs and operates his own association Devine Jiu-Jitsu which has 12 schools, 10 of those schools in South Carolina/Georgia/Florida.