Reman junk!

Another horror story from a reman part that almost destroyed an engine.

[@trail457]

Anything with Chinese bearing will fail fast.I found that on hubs on trucks.Can't beat good old made in USA bearings.

[@krisn8820]

As a mechanic in the auto world, it's hard getting good parts anywhere lately. Seems like dorman is making factory parts now too. Nothing but junk

[@mikeshultz1007]

Kent moore tools are pretty much exclusive to General Motors and the Detroit Diesel division of general motors. That counter bore set is for either the series 50 or series 60 engines. In the later years after the spx merger they started making tools for other manufacturers. A few years ago I purchased every single kent moore and dealer specific tool that a Chevy dealer had when they went out of business. That dealer happened to service medium duty and gm buses back in the day so I ended up with all of the 2 stroke Detroit diesel tools along with tools for the cat 3208 and cat 3116 since it was used in gm medium duty.

[@williegillie5712]

The last remanufactured starter my buddy bought quit within a few months. I opened it up to see what went wrong and low and behold none of the magnets were attached to the housing. They all were spun around and stuck together. Thankfully we still had the old starter. I replaced the brushes in the old one and he hasn’t had any problem since. Utter crap this reman stuff is.

[@justastudentoftheworld3940]

I've complained about our country not being self sufficient for 50 years, now we're learning why. These other countries could starve us to death, not only farm goods but every piece of equipment that needs electronics.

[@jimmyaber5920]

stockholder and CEO wages are more important than you or me or this country. Sure, companies have to make money but the story is told by full earnings reports with board of directors and CEO wages and bonuses.

[@robertborchert932]

Truth. These top end executives placed obscene profits over long term reliability. Well, the rooster has come back. Look what you guys have done to your companies. No excuses, you suck.

[@strattuner]

just learned this last year i've told everyone i know verbally,now i'm saying it on this channel cause most of you guys are techs and mechanics on all sorts of stuff,not only the parts are crap,i just learned that they are making and rebuilding all of the transformers and generators that fire most of our plants and sub stations,in other words china has us by the balls on our electricity grid,check it,i did,its scary damn scary,we have no backup,all i can say is buy generators for powering your shops and homes just in case,i hate even talking about it,now how in the hell can you backup gasoline that rots in 6 months

[@robertwinton2649]

The only thing I found true about made in America are those cute little labels that say made in America and it's the gospel truth the label itself is made in America God knows where the junk was made that it stuck on I think that's the reason why they paint the junk green and call it John Deere

[@jacobgroezinger1606]

A soft start is ideal for an AC motor that runs at full speed all the time. A Freq drive (VFD/AFD) are for both soft starting and controlling the speed of an AC motor to control for pressure, flow, etc. Freq drives can also spin a motor faster than 60 hertz as well. Like anything else they can be basic or wild depending on application.

[@ollie-lk5dx]

You know when I tell people what you just said they look at me like I'm crazy. I worked in a sugar mill and we had dozens of vfd's most of the time it was to speed up or control flow of pumps.

[@kennethhoover6195]

how does that work on dc?

[@rodfreess6019]

@@kennethhoover6195 VFD don't work on DC, there's no frequency on DC. You have to control the voltage to control the speed of DC motors, and that requires feedback to know what the motor is turning, because DC motors will speed up with less load and slow down with more load.

[@kennethhoover6195]

@@rodfreess6019 I understand DC is controlled by resistance how do you control ac?

[@KristaMae]

@@kennethhoover6195 changes the frequency. If nameplate says 1750 rpm at 60 Hz, the speed will be proportional when you speed up to 100, 120 Hz and slow when you go to 40 Hz. We've got a motor with 72:1 reduction to 15/60 chain drive to get final shaft rpm to roughly 1/10th motor rpm. We run the arm at 4 rpm and motor at 40 Hz.

[@murdockbutler1146]

Yeah, trying to save a dollar on reman parts that run off the motor gears or can contaminate internal motor, tranny, or rearend isn't a good idea at all and this is a perfect example. Other reman stuff to stay away from would be fuel injector pumps and hydraulic oil pumps. Case dealer put a reman steering pump in a mxm190 I bought from them. 50 hours later pump died and shed fine metal flakes into transmission. 2 transmission oil/filter changes, still showing metal flakes in oil, and 1000 hours later the transmission started crapping. out. Just say NOOO to remans

[@wazza33racer]

they cant even reman .........a water pump, one of the simplest mechanical items on an engine. No hope is there.

[@fleyboy99]

I do not understand why JohnDeere keep on going with this reman shit what a great way to ruin your reputation i will go with a Case IH .. not with that green crap

[@prevost8686]

Deere is just one of many manufacturers peddling poor quality reman parts at premium prices.

[@ChiefHasben]

Getting too old sounds familiar with me. I really appreciate watching you, as a craftsman that has perfected the profession. Thanks for taking us along.

[@fourfortyroadrunner6701]

All remanufactured junk is well, junk, and many of the NEW parts are as well. "Becuz China." The NTSB, so far as road vehicles should have gotten on to this years ago. Few years ago I bought a dimmer switch from NAPA. I don't think it went 40 cycles, I don't drive much at night anymore. I'm 73 and in the 70-80;s I spent 15 years selling parts when brands were BRANDS and even offshore stuff was usually decent. I can't name all the brands that are now meaningless. Perfect Circle, Sealed Power, McQuay Norris, National and CR seals, TRW chassis and engine parts, the list is endless. And Standard/ Blue Streak and NAPA Echlin. All gone to shit. Big piles of soft stinking shit

[@davidj4662]

Thanks for going to all the trouble to record these videos, I know it's a pain in the ass while you're working on something.

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

Not too bad, thanks.

[@svthorasailing4868]

It would break your friggen heart with these cheese based parts.

[@mikeznel6048]

No, what should break you heart is what these people are doing to our country.

[@ramosel]

@@mikeznel6048 But they feel good doing it because they are doing it with the most diverse group of idiots one administration can pull together.

[@kennethkaczypenski6224]

Always dreamed about living in the wilds of Alaska ever since I read and saw the TV special on Dick Proenneke "Alone in Alaska!

[@Rimrock300]

Just not forget to stay clear of reman axes and such, and you'll be alright;)

[@nozmoking1]

NEVER buy a remanufactured part unless you have no other choice and have a desperate need for the machine to get back to work. And in that case buy TWO.

[@jackking5567]

I know a manager at Renault/Nissan. He works at their Paris (nearby) headquarters. I asked one day about vehicle recalls and failure rates - it was around the time the Leaf was coming in and batteries were (and still are) junk. That manager explained that the company is very aware of failure rates from parts. The company accepted a 4% expected failure on any new vehicle and they had internal types of insurance cover that would pay for recalls, parts and staff time at dealerships on repairs covered by the company. I've a feeling that vehicle manufacturers are raising those expected failure rates. As others have said, they really don't give a toss as long as they sell machines.

[@Oliver-kv2mm]

I’ve some great deals on tools just having cash available when someone needed money.

[@twistin140]

Thanks for the share Warren. Always an interesting video. We'll see ya on the next one.

[@markwise9267]

You can never have enough tools. Think men just live tools I know I do.

[@kevinklingner3098]

Good tools forget the Chinese junk tools . The first time you use it it is the size it says or it spreads or breaks. Japan Tiawan KOREAMAKE.GOOD STUFF. I LIKE EUROTECH TOOLS. BAHCO WHICH IS SWEDISH MADE BUT STANLEY OWNED IS GOOD TOO..

[@kevinklingner3098]

What is with this reman stuff of JD is it just repaired to a price or whats the go. It is always better to do the job.right first for.amy.number of reasons least of all I never liked working o a hot tractor on a hot.day or outside on tractor focusing things on.a old day.

[@kevinklingner3098]

Any time I bought parts for the 8450 or the 8400i always put knew parts in.Its cheap insurance..Mixing.new with old.is.never good

[@Ollie603]

We had a big meeting about 5 years ago and basically said, we are never fitting reman to jobs we do because the liability is too high, one of the best decision we ever made imo.

[@Prariedog]

Hope all is well Warren, your an awsome mechanic and take the time to share your work day with us . Sure do appreciate it ! Take care Warren and family

[@henrymichaelwilson8107]

Hello Warren. You would think one of those Machanical water pumps would last a lifetime. My MF 390T has never had a new water pump from 1998.

[@Gustav4]

And another one

[@mataiterapreha]

They're going to have to start warranting the shit out of everything a reman part touches if they expect to sell that crap to people. Either that or get some kind of quality control in place.

[@halwilliams1682]

Challenger and Massey tractors built in Jackson, MN have a zerk to grease the water pump bearing. Probably a good idea.

[@matthewdarling5982]

Was wondering you opinion I recently purchased a nh bb 9060 3 by 3 big square baler looking for a tractor that would run that and some tillage on 100 acres pr year was thinking of a caseih 7240-8940 new Holland 8970 or a Jd 8400 what would be the most reliable for the future based on your knowledge of working on tractors I’m just starting out on my own don’t want Def nor do I need a screen in the cab any suggestions would be appreciated i enjoy watching you videos thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to post them

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

Those 8970 are pretty tough tractors. Of course I don't think you would get hurt on anyone of those three in that era.

[@matthewdarling5982]

@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 thanks guess I’ll see what’s out there

[@bcbloc02]

My vote would be for the 8400. We have several 8000series over 20000hrs that have had very little done to them. Mainly just fix the 4wd seals from leaking every 5000hrs.

[@matthewdarling5982]

@@bcbloc02 thanks for the input

[@michaelmoore6151]

Cutting Corners with The iron that you count on for your Bread and butter doesnt make sence.. I've wrenched on equipment that has been done by operator error.. And now I'm sure hes not going to buy anymore garbage for his equipment..

[@michaeldunagan8268]

Yeah I can't really feel sorry for the guy with the tractor as I posted in my comment when he's going to skimp on $200 when driving a six-figure piece of equipment. I laugh off $200 on my relic semi tractor. But I'll be damned that it's going to be down because I won't buy an extra $200 part over crap. The only defense I'll allow this guy to speak is that he bought it from a dealership which should come with some quality or warranty.

[@disturbedcarrot]

Based on your reman advice I decided against reman alternator. Mine gave out in my toyota diesel car. A new Toyota alternator was 800 quid, a reman was 400. Got the auto electrician to rebuild the original which he also approved as being the best option.

[@landlifem5872]

People are just lazy now. A lot of components on a vehicle/machinery can be rebuilt, as they have in the past, but now a lot of people just wanna swap parts and not actually fix them.

[@disturbedcarrot]

@@landlifem5872 goes for everything thing really, obsolescence was a strategy introduced in the great depression to stimulate the economy. It's working well! Similarly, people used to grow their own vegetables and stuff, but why when it's less than a dollar per packet down at the store.

[@dirttdude]

same thing in the marine industry... tell your customer that a little gizmo that's from the the dealer costs 900 dollars and when they're finished bitching, they go someplace else but they're delighted when you tell them the made in mexico knock-off is 12 dollars. Of course it comes back next week with a totally pissed off irrational karen attached to it.

[@d.t.4523]

I rolled my toolbox into my brother's garage and left it with him. I haven't seen it for several years, and I'm happy as can be. Keep working, it does pay good but I'm not interested anymore. I hope you get a few days off, now and then. Good luck.

[@trail457]

I hope John Deere goes good for the repair of the engine.They want to sell junk they should be prepared for repairing what it destroys.

[@ggem8125]

Hi Warren is a Cummins generator from 1968 with 1200 hours model NT-335-GS worth anything. Spent its entire life in climate controlled building. Engine worth anything?

[@davidmills6477]

The older Kent Moore tools were very high quality tools. Knew several people that worked at KM before they closed their factory in Jackson Michigan and outsourced a lot of their manufacturing overseas. Most everyone I knew took pride in working there, but like most skilled trade people in manufacturing there got screwed over when they closed.

[@Bodhranarama]

I get your deer tent stuff man I think about things like that all the time. I live in a small country but not many people so plenty of wild space.

[@mikenorris232]

I enjoy your videos very much Warren. This country needs more men like you. Keep on keeping on! By the way I’d love to see a video about your story of how you got into working on heavy equipment. That would be a great video!

[@michaeldunagan8268]

@18:84 If I were to enter farming today I would not do so without irrigation. Stakes are too high to risk a drought even east of the Mississippi River. This said: I read a comment where they did not let people irrigate their lands with the aquafire; so I guess one just can't win as a farmer.

[@maxpuppy96]

I don't buy reman parts anymore, I have been through it. There is just something about them, all John Deere all John Deere parts and they just don't last and I don't know why? Chinese aftermarket maybe better. I just bought a 4045 from a guy with 300 hours in it, I had a choice of buying that or a totally rebuilt one. I chose the used 300 hour one because I knew it was factory assemble and I knew it had original John Deere parts. God know who rebuilt the engine.

[@robertstock9912]

Hey Warren is there any equipment out there that doesn't have so much over head and if so what is it just thought I'd ask

[@kevinsunderland247]

Frustrating

[@samgilmer7345]

You should keep a old porch umbrella on your truck. Makes a big difference having some shade to work under

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

Only 80 degrees, but earlier this year it would have been nice.

[@doglaslondon7904]

Good to see you working on 8100 i have 2 of them one with 8.1 motor other has 7.9 that pipe is a pain great to se you back

[@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP]

Here's a perfect example of the phenomenon known as "False Economy" that people fall into. Thinking to save money, they purchase a much cheaper cost product- that in turn usually ends up costing substantially more- than the regularly "high priced" item, because of the inferiority of workmanship and/or materials when it prematurely fails. Hey, Warren- what's this $300 water pump going to cost now, when you're done, parts & labor? Twice? Three times? Customers do this all the time with vehicle maintenance, too. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_economy

[@tomdillard9558]

the problem is when companies out source their replacement parts to other companies and the put their name on it and it is the same junk that's out there for sale for half the price

[@russellflemister393]

had a 2000 chevy suburban it had both sae and metric it was a pain to work on having half your tool box layed out

[@phylliswhite4154]

Have a Ford with the international diesel, Same thing. Metric and Sae. on the same brackets for alt, air conditioner etc.

[@gs1100ed]

Nice score on the Kent Moore tools! You will get good service from that set.

[@petewood2350]

Save money just buy the brand new part, or rebuild it your self.

[@Gordonseries385]

Hello Warren and Crew. Glad to see everything is back to normal... Oscar is to tired to do some pants leg sport action and Lulu is checking out what your doing. Cool on the tools, thank you for sharing. Take Care!

[@wymershandymanservice9965]

Rebuilders using 3rd world parts and labor yet charging premium prices.

[@mfreund15448]

No, the manufacturer are pocketing the savings How do you think Deere can pay millions to the CEO?

[@wymershandymanservice9965]

@@mfreund15448 Agreed something is definitely wrong because when they build the machine quality parts are used. But all these remanufactured items are put together with pure crap 💩

[@michaeldunagan8268]

This includes the company Apple by the way.....

[@matthewkesler1175]

A mechanic in my area had one of these type of water pumps bearing fail( I think it was OEM) . It took out the timing gears and bent the crankshaft. It had ball bearing shaped divots in the crank gear teeth. Incredible damage. A used engine was installed.I immediately checked the type of water pump on the JD tractor at the farm I worked at. Different pump or Id have immediately recommended a new water pump . It wasnt obvious the crank was bent but the mechanic knew it was possible with the kind of pressure that occured. A dial indicator revealed the worse news on top of the bad. At least it wasn't a case of low to no hours failure.

[@mongomay1]

Warren, Get your engraver out and mark what all those tool parts are to work together, so when you need them It will be done and will not rub off.

[@Ivansgarage]

That little bit of sloop in that water pump, just needs some grease.... lol

[@andrewhaley5061]

I work and one of the best marine repower boat yards in New England specializing in commercial fishing boat repowers. Stuff like c18s Scanias, 1000 man engine and a ton of smaller 450hp Cummins I repowered a lobster boat with a reman c12 it didn't last a week before the engine gave up, reman parts and engine are junk they aren't worth the packaging there shipped in

[@aussiedirtmover]

😥😥😥😥😥😥The advntures of trying to save money with cheap repairs some work some dont😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥

[@markamcampbell6340]

you remind me a lot of my uncle Lynn Daugherty. full of wisdom and stories.

[@richardcornelius1050]

Reman engines are best purchased from reputable engine suppliers . Jasper ain’t one of ‘em . Because they love to re-use parts even though they have already lived their service life . I bought my long block from “Power Train Companies” best price , They deliver and pick up at no additional cost and I was able to purchase their installation kit ( New water pump , Serpentine belt , plug wires , plugs , Air filter , Oil filter , Upper and Lower radiator hoses and Gasket set ) plus upgraded the warranty to Gold and still paid far less than I would have for a Jasper reman . Words to the wise . Shop around and do your research . Well worth the time .

[@Ham68229]

Reman of anything is junk. I feel sorry for that guy. Cheers :)

[@AKUSUXs]

Serious question... If farmers aren't getting rich then why do they always have newer equipment? Along with that that always have some of the newer pickups and other vehicles. I would love to have a business that is backed by insurance and or the US Government!

[@seantatham9960]

Great score on the tools!!! Not sure how comments got shut off on latest video but it was a good one too!

[@michaelmcdonald6727]

Hey Warren, another great video showing your mechanical expertise! Your customers are lucky to have you around. Thanks much for sharing.

[@johnandcarolynmills3061]

Good job Warren & great to see the pups under your feet again.

[@ggem8125]

My 40 ton tractor supply log splitter has gone up 600 bucks in the last year . I guess a lot of people getting free government money are buying log splitters.

[@f.k.b.16]

I worked at Horton. The company that designed, tested, and manufactured that fan. Probably a 413369. It was a good company at one time.

[@zacb7427]

Crazy I don't have to much problems with reman parts but I don't get to much work either if your unsatisfied then ask for a refund or dispute it man if your not happy you don't have to pay.

[@netltube]

What's the saying about pulling so hard ... at at 26:58? Can't make out the middle word, I need to have that in my vocabulary lol

[@henrymichaelwilson8107]

We think they make it up has they go along with those JD engines. They are not in the same league has Cummins or CAT.

[@timskiff9422]

Water pump run off the cam, what happened to good old belts?

[@henrysosebee9241]

Warren I have some top deck sleeves for ntc Cummins if you can use them I will send tnhem to you

[@mt1885]

Sad part is new 'regime' is dismantling the entire country one will be lucky to get anything.

[@calumanderson5617]

Thank you for the video Warren.👍

[@rescuecow90]

Made me wince watching the fan blades hit the radiator.

[@andrewlaunderville5882]

I know you are a busy mechanic thanks for the videos they are so awesome

[@bradanderson1627]

Well them tools are a hell of a score! Gdam boy.

[@jrneff9773]

your cab over videio comments were turned off hope i didnt say stuff to get me banded sorry if i did jr neff west tn

[@rongrose3746]

Those 8100 tractors were a pretty good machine !

[@gasperajdnik5627]

Thanks for shering warren 👍. Take care now 👍🤝.

[@agtech4580]

6 months warranty on a reman water pump go after Deere for the repairs

[@marshallsayre58]

Hey Warren what happend to the "summer help" that you mentioned way back

[@dieselhatz4247]

Went with another outfit that offered better perks, unsure of what perks, probably health/dental and insurance?

[@approachingtarget.4503]

Want quality....produce it here!

[@randychristian7642]

I may not buy anymore John Deere products

[@robertcallaghan4358]

Interested to know the price difference between the recon/new water pump.

[@dtstarlingfarms1245]

$200 more for the new water pump

[@fia974]

I think that IH traktors and sparparts is..whas better

[@gerrycomfort7027]

all most like the old dodge hay this is cool man i like cool

[@henrysosebee9241]

I have used these cutters a lot in my time good luck with these tools

[@paulsvensson5247]

Or a swedish SKF bearing.😊

[@mikeznel6048]

Awesome find on the counter bore cutter. Especially the older ones. Pretty soon, you'll be the only one who can work on them, on top of all the new stuff.

[@jasonfletcher8444]

I have noticed that almost all the farmers I know that do well are also mechanics. It must really make a difference on the overhead.

[@timmayer8723]

My uncle had a massive dairy operation about 90 miles north of Las Vegas neVada. He was a master mechanic diesel, gas, electric, hydraulic. He would by a fleet of auction hay trucks in Sacramento and drive them back to Bunkerville Nevada. He had an endless supply of spare parts. He was a master welder. His operation was all computers, he played the Chicago options board. He was one of the most gentle , kind men I have ever met. He died about ten years ago as a very rich man. He and my aunt never took time off in 45 years running the dairy operation.

[@martiehensley4452]

Warren can you believe what is going on in Australia right know?

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

If the American people don't stand up it'll be here too.

[@martiehensley4452]

@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 this brothers me ever day and where can you run from this if no one will see in time

[@d5ncat227]

It's not just deere,it's all of them,Cat,Caseih,komatsu,there Q.C. dept. And the whole company could care less about your bottom dollar, they want you to trade every year or every other. I bought a new cat and the salesman told me a year later that I needed to trade at 1800 hours because the particulant filter is a very expensive repair.So you buy my trade in and BAM you pay cat to fix it and BAM I'm in debt with cat on a new machine,,,,,just a vicious cycle.

[@clemkaddilehopper4735]

All these companies make cheap crap that won't last. One would expect Deere to be the best but they are not anymore. My Uncle was an engineer for John Deere in the 1960s. Worked with 20 series. Those engineers were very proud of their 4020. He told my Dad, Just keep the oil changed, They will last forever! He was right!

[@B.E.Long.63]

Where are they rebuilt at Mexico, China ,Vietnam, Taiwan someone's backyard... Thanks for all your sharing with us.

[@fabriglas]

I would warranty that shit...

[@fiegenfiegen]

36:32: Kent-Moore! My first job (we are talking 1984) was in Kent-Moore Spain. After military duty I had the chance to keep working with computers in the European headquarters in Switzerland. The company was then bought by Sealed Power (SPX) and now I think it is part of the German consortium Bosch.

[@starterman2757]

It's not about re-man vs new. It's about quality. A lot of new stuff is worse than a correctly re-manufactured part. Know the guy that re-manufactures your part. I would never install a JD re-man.

[@scottwilke3966]

Are quite a few repairs are small stuff broken wire , wire connection sensors thing of that nature ? Then the small things that lead to big things such as this watet pump the cam gear which leads to the crank gear which leads to on and on just thinking ? Enjoy ur movies interesting to see how J D 55 series holding up they were just coming out when I got out of farm ranching we had a 2955 threw 4955 interesting to see where the failed first thank you

[@mrmiscast]

Some parts guys "This pump has a 1-year guarantee"/ Warren "That's because it's a guaranteed piece of shit" AMEN.....

[@thegreenerthemeaner]

I bought a Reman injection pump from Deere. It came apart in 1 hour and wrecked the gear train on the front of the motor. No help from dealer or Deere. That's the new way of customer service/appreciation. When my Powerstroke needed a waterpump, I bought a new one from Ford. After 20 years, I figured that was the only way to NOT have to change a lifetime warranty one yearly, let alone any other damage it might cause. Yup, it cost $300 over $85, but so far, no issues after 5 years.

[@Griffin854]

I don't mean this in a bad way, but to me your videos remind me of something out of a post-apocalyptic Mad Max movie. You're like some kooky, half-crazy mechanical genius pushed into the wasteland by marauder clans to fix old hotrods.

[@kennycraze]

O.L.F Farmer uses one of these, only his is an 8120. He had to do a major in frame rebuild on his channel when one of the cylinder sleeves developed a vertical crack almost it's full length.

[@cineminded]

So never buy Reman parts ? Or is it never buy John Deere reman parts ? There are quit some specialized shops for reman parts these days. It seems cheaper , untill it breaks down like this, you always pay the price in the end ...

[@matthewjones5450]

brother was going to comment on your cabover spring replacement vidio and they were turned off but i was going too say you need to find a couple of those old 90s truck bed rubber mats you could roll them up put them in the back of your service trucks and slide them under shit thats in the dirt and if they get oil on them you can just pressure wash them off and avoid all that dirt blowing every where when you use air tools and they are better on your back than rocks lol