Remember When Steam Made a Console?

[@JacobTech-3567]

Their first mistake was not calling it the “Steam Engine”

[@22xpz]

Jacob Williams ikr good one *stream engine* *cancer*

[@kobiecouzner-howie5461]

Jacob Williams true but steam machine is pretty catchy

[@fuitbythefoot]

OOOOH THATS THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR.

[@MimescaraAotWC]

@@kobiecouzner-howie5461 indeed

[@leticiadecker1749]

That reminds me of Thomas The Tank Engine.

[@Iusti06]

I remember seeing this advertised and saying “cool” the forgetting about its existence.

[@kaiwalsh6976]

I thought steam powered machines disappeared after the 20th century

[@Prince-mn6ur]

Kai Walsh xD

[@Ikhsanratdith]

Nice joke you got here...well said

[@theworldoverheavan560]

Kai Walsh lol

[@connorcriss]

Ulti Gamer stop saying gay and cringy it’s homosexual and wince-inducing

[@godli6063]

Nonfictional Yeti I'll say both

[@BoostedPastime]

Overpriced Underpreforming Undersupported Steam Flop.

[@Kiko_D_Awesome]

Boosted Fool if you download windows 10 it is worth the price for people that don’t want to pay for a top notch PC

[@LilBrujoFH18]

THIS WAS GOING TO BE MY FIRST PC EXPERIENCE BUT DECIDED TO ASK MY FRIEND TO BUILD MY PC.

[@serenityq26]

thats a lie. had it for 4 years and no problems or complaints

[@tascaandrei4198]

At least it has a good design

[@xFreSh999_]

@@LilBrujoFH18 why are you yelling

[@salahkh3040]

I only trust soujla game not these cheap consoles

[@ezny7393]

Al-Motamared المتمرد me to

[@BigBossultrastealth]

Lmao

[@frankwhitaker9408]

Those PC bitches just jealous of my Soulja Phone, Boi.

[@applayz138]

Same!!

[@haydenw8691]

Aim way higher than SouljaJunk.

[@drizztdourden3259]

Didn't even know these existed lol, don't think they were advertised in anyway here in Sweden atleast

[@Limboinpinbo]

They were advertised in Sweden but failed to go mainstream.

[@TechniqueSan]

They were too busy advertising the swedish to welcome muslims.

[@joel7342]

I thought the steam link and the steam machine was the same thing. Bad advertising indeed, at least in Sweden.

[@Djhg2000]

+Drizzt Do'Urden They advertized it quite heavily, but they also launched the Steam Link and Steam controller at the same time. You probably just didn't scroll down far enough.

[@mattias1099]

They did but it was a total floopppöpppöpppppppöäåpööåp

[@MitchellHang]

Lean, mean, Steam machine.

[@srt4804]

Mitchell Hang I love this.

[@dpixp]

Classic reference

[@clay4trey]

Bought in 2019.

[@WillyFreshy]

That failed horribly because it was just a ash grab

[@Spinomaks]

Mitchell Hang mean bean steam machine

[@StevenSenile]

It has a Alienware logo on it. I bet it's 3.000$

[@TT-mg8zc]

+ intel sticker +500$

[@wired-fpz]

330.

[@Minkey0]

DanielFromMcDonalds its only $500 i own the windows os version called the alienware alpha

[@Sickle771]

You can get em for cheap now, like a 100 dollars

[@toddcoward6245]

Only the logo

[@TheNotoriousRay]

i always wanted one, but i never had the money for it, now that i have money, theyre not a serious competitor

[@mohamedalhasan8713]

Welcome to capitalism :)

[@marzuXC]

Same here

[@Senorgrav]

They go for like 150 all day on eBay

[@danii_so2]

Now u can have the new one

[@doggy101]

well now theres the steam deck

[@keegan6570]

Just duct tape a GTX 1080 on it that'll solve all your issues.

[@Badger2357]

dont forget the i9 processor, RGB keyboard/mouse, and Bose A20 Aviation Headset with Bluetooth Dual Plug Cable

[@jonathanoxlade4252]

Shadow already has that lol waiting for a rtx upgrade lol

[@PirateCat822]

@@jonathanoxlade4252 t/woosh

[@lauchmelder1882]

Roses are red, Grass is green, I bought a steam machine In 2018.

[@randomfrankp]

Frank is random, His channel is the tits, Watch this video, Because it's the tits. Did I do it right?

[@jmaghera5109]

Lol

[@MandomJoJo]

randomfrankp tits are life eh?

[@24mass99]

Nice it was Cathy

[@fireball75677]

Well that's creative. Nicely done.

[@randomfan4446]

Wait, Steam made a console?

[@TheStinkusofYore]

Yeah, the program itself made it.

[@shugie6350]

Random Fan console/gaming pc

[@DanielS-zq2rr]

no, they made an OS for other companies to make "steam" consoles upon.

[@jort93z]

actually they did not i believe. they licensed out the name and made steam OS.

[@Superdan4290]

Random Fan If you consider a box that played games a console, yes.

[@Venisor21]

You can play Overwatch in the Steam machine? Don't you need like, a Blizzard Machine for that?

[@billywhellie3327]

XD

[@3024-r2j]

...

[@ZALKR]

Kendall Sain like from the dairy queen ?

[@oladotwav]

he wasn't even playing. look at his controller movements then look at the screen. it doesnt sync one bit

[@sunkenduncan2681]

Kendall Sain padum ching

[@big5th159]

I ain't never ever seen a console like this

[@iGoHam2]

eh? this console is acting totally different

[@thhb1]

This console is beyooooond me.

[@Maxikang44]

Same

[@vprebz9254]

Eh?

[@thomasmacdonough288]

It is a PC that steam named a console because mid life crisis

[@whilhelm9511]

I believe the reason behind their decision of installing SteamOS is because they are trying to push linux support as hard as possible, they want linux to be the next main platform for games and one way they could do this is, releasing a console running linux. this way game devs that make games with controller support would be incentivised to compile a linux build, effectively growing the linux library.

[@lanch5986]

A comment aged like wine

[@whilhelm9511]

@@lanch5986 5 years ago.. jeez... time flies

[@Narwhal12]

E

[@lanch5986]

@@whilhelm9511 and linux has 4% of the market share, things are looking up slowly but surely

[@syno894]

Why? I bought one in 2019

[@SnowTheKitsune]

Syno time travel proved!!!!

[@fireball75677]

Uhhhhhh that's funny because I bought mine in 2049. XD

[@SnowTheKitsune]

Mr. Shadow wow! 😂 I never would thought time travel is real!🤣

[@DatNapk1n47]

Ur 2 woke 4 this world.

[@claire4760]

That was a bad purchase. It stopped be worth anything years ago.

[@MTNDEWGANG]

I actually had one, but it ran windows, it had a i3 4130m and some Maxwell mobile chip, ran fallout 3 at 60fps though.

[@MTNDEWGANG]

Ouef1029 I had over 1000 ping once on my custom pc. Oof

[@CabbageGod]

What you had was the Alienware Alpha Console. Very similar but better, except the built in software which is pc-slowing garbage.

[@jamestor6700]

well an imac only has intel hd graphics or radeon pro which are both terrible at gaming

[@ChairyCrasher]

+Ouef1029 IMac is not a good computer for gaming. Not Powerful enough. I had a mac before.

[@ExplodedMrT]

+Mtn- Dewgang Custom PCs don't affect ping

[@fairyfire6481]

1. People with Pcs wouldnt buy it since they would only get consoles for the exclusives 2. Frankly it wasnt advertised well Also the stuff you mentioned

[@jamestor6700]

it was for people who wanted a console like experience when transitioning to pc, people who don't want to build one themselves

[@yoyofargo]

Steam: Hey fam wanna help us make a video game console? Nvidia: Lol Nvidia: Sup everyone introducing the Shield totally our idea

[@jejaps1689]

Yes, we're all here after the announcement of Steam Deck.

[@arsenicbug1537]

I used to have one and got it on sale. Gave one to my friend and honestly it wasn't a bad computer at all-- it gamed fine for what I wanted it to and if you can pick one up used for a decent price (200-300 for i3 models, maybe less if you're lucky), they're incredibly space conscious and deserve some love. I'd love to have one again for my guest room but maybe an r2 version. :)

[@greyjohnson4124]

The problem was the restrictions due to the os and the fact that they charged more for a windows version

[@eliasgagnef2019]

Grey John Couldn't you just install Windows on it yourself?

[@verycoolguy6696]

I actually got my Alienware alpha with windows 10 installed at the same price as the steam os one

[@fairyfire6481]

Elias gagnef yeah but one of the main points of a console is how easy they are to use. Like would a dad go through the whole hassle of installing windows on a more expensive machine rather then get a ps/xbox and just plug and play? Also the console market is heavily dominated by ps/xbox and nintendo as much as its drilled into peoples minds, when you say console people dont imagine a box of machinery that they can play games with, they think Ps4 etc.

[@MMXANCE]

wasn't the main reason valve even released them a dispute with microsoft? windows 10 was new at the time and Microsoft said something like all apps (that includes games) should only be sold through the windows store. That would mean valve would lose a good percentage on every sale. My guess is valve and microsoft arranged a deal and that pretty much made the steam machine useless

[@JordalCake]

Bro you're not even playing the game at 7:15? Are you just watching a video holding a controller?!

[@conner7061]

JordalCake holy shit this guy's a phony xd

[@SaveCorrupt]

*HE’S A GREAT BIG PHONY*

[@KeiFresh]

lol he activated his Ult without actually activating his ult

[@jennytolls5057]

JordalCake lol

[@xTouchOfGreyx]

the 3 games he showed in this video aren't even playable on steam os...

[@Mr.Atari2600]

Steam Machines kinda reminds me of the Pong Console era in the 70's. Just like how there's multiple different version's of Steam Machines. There's Multiple different version's of Pong Consoles. Both pretty much suffered the same fate.

[@snapcountersteer]

Same as the 3DO and the SEGA Saturn. Wait, do we see a pattern here?

[@dyslexicbatnam1350]

7:11 Lol you weren't even playing the game

[@risingiguana5408]

that game isnt even on steam too lol

[@junaidpc16]

@@risingiguana5408 You can play overwatch over steam by adding it to your library. It is possible to play overwatch over steam link.

[@younessmati5416]

XD

[@RazorEdgeBullie]

Well, it worked on me. I bought an alienware alpha at launch to check out this pc gaming thing that all the angry master race guys would scream at me in digital foundry videos. I loved it. Since then, ive built about 6 desktop pc's and my main one I put a custom water loop in there.

[@lilman227]

Dood_Sanshiro hell, I have 3 alpha's and 4 custom PCs thanks to them.. worked on me too

[@cjallen233]

Same, Ended up giving it to my older bro, to get him into PC gaming, worked on him as well, now he's looking to upgrade and going to hand it down to another friend.

[@droid16beta97]

PC MASTER RACE!

[@MyName_Jeff]

Tried to join the master race but my outdated laptop only runs games like smite at 20fps on low settings.... Feelsbadman 😔

[@kwah1]

rich boi

[@Roadstar1602]

They were overpriced, underpowered, and only ran SOME Steam games. Bottom line.

[@independantUKbeats]

And the controller is shite.

[@Roadstar1602]

A lot of people don't like the controller. I didn't mention it because you can literally use any controller you want on a Steam machine. You're not stuck with a Steam controller.

[@brandonselitetv1436]

Roadstar1602 I wish they went with they went with the beta design of the controller. I hate that they added a joystick

[@0denMS]

I can run gta 5 on medium at 90 frames and I’ve only put in an extra 30 dollars to the original 500 and I got it 3 years ago

[@daenerysstormbornofhouseta7968]

Mvdhatter that's not good....

[@ravi_s]

*RandomFrankP uploaded a video* I seriously stopped what I was doing to watch this. Been loving your content since 2016

[@lindah6954]

I remember seeing the Steam Machine for sale at Wal-Mart. It was $499. I knew that wasn't going to work out.

[@leander_aunvik]

Who else watch this in 2019? Right now for me, the clock is 00.45 on 1st January! HAPPY NEW YEAR guys!! 🎉🎆🎇🎊

[@viper9171]

WinciGye me

[@Pendleton115]

You watched this during New Years Eve, dude I’m sorry that’s depressing 😕

[@leander_aunvik]

@@Pendleton115 y?

[@zapid9118]

@@leander_aunvik Because if you use your computer/phone on new years eve it really shows that your family and friends hates you...

[@Takashikoi]

I use my xbox on new year but they dint hate me @zapid

[@MarcSelwan]

I don’t think Alienware is singled out as a “hated” brand. There’s the general shade thrown to buying pre built PCs but with GPU prices of late, the gap between pre built and custom built has shrunk. I personally like Dell products in general though so maybe I’m biased.

[@Noki0100]

Yeah agreed, not hate so much. But I'm obviously a better person in life than anyone that would buy a pre-built machine from Alienware.

[@GamerLappen]

Alienware is a company which sells overprice hardware non-stop so the hate towards them is justified in my eyes. The only ones which really love Alienware are little kids which throw their money at them just because its Alienware. Razer tends to go in the same direction with their fanbase, though at least Razer makes (some) good products like the Stealth.

[@SeekerLancer]

I bought an Alpha a few years ago with Windows on it before SteamOS was out and got it at a decent price on sale at Best Buy. It's still going strong as a small form factor PC.

[@iku5000]

agreed, only reason they get some shade is because the joined with dell

[@dubstepforever99]

razer makes the most garbage headset i ever tried.. 3 headset got broken in 1 year and i dont even rage in video games... razer kraken for example just started acting bad in a few weeks.. the mic stopped working.. then you only got sound on one ear and then it stopped working completely.. i bought a sennheiser after the razer hype.. its been working for years..

[@derekm6006]

That’s the same PC I have

[@slum7448]

Derek’s Universe lool

[@amarok5826]

Same

[@illestJun]

Was about to be me but nah. Sexy small pc tho but i got water cooling cause noctua finally release nice colour options

[@ki115witch2]

Derek’s Universe you mean an alien ware?

[@jaxw2628]

XxXFLIPZ360XxX alien ware is dell and dell is pc

[@seewardone]

Hey Frank, saw your tweet all late but immediately watched this vid. I like this video because you always do a great job of answering all of our questions about the product 👍🏾

[@alecnguyen838]

Lost me when they let alien ware make it, which is why it was probably so overpriced

[@Klokinator]

Yup. That's why I skipped out on it.

[@marzuXC]

1,000 for an i3

[@GOD_lovesyousomuch]

@@Klokinator No one asked tbh but mk

[@Klokinator]

@@GOD_lovesyousomuch Nobody asked for a woman's opinion, either.

[@GOD_lovesyousomuch]

@@Klokinator Nobody asked for a Idiots opinion, either.

[@antiherogrindviolence]

And now this year they made a handheld console. 🤣

[@PirateCat822]

Well at least this time they did the design themselves,and gave it a custom AMD chipset

[@donovan6320]

Well the situation is much better, proton has like 70% game compatibility or something like that, meaning most games will at least run. Or crash spectacularly in the worst case, but at least you can install then.

[@JainaSoloB312]

Early impressions are much much better than they ever were for the Steam Box, I'm optimistic but we'll have to wait and see

[@realm1704]

Roses are red Violets are blue I bought a steam machine And it broke in a week (Seriously don't buy it)

[@dedded1968]

OtherRealm Gaming I wonder how you handle a laptop.

[@realm1704]

I didn't personally break it. It was on my shelf I was playing it then it shut off and broke

[@dedded1968]

OtherRealm Gaming did you get it on ebay?

[@realm1704]

No. I got it from gamestop

[@dedded1968]

OtherRealm Gaming did you refund it afterwards?

[@erikmyers5013]

No

[@EyeSpyIrishGuyXD]

Cheers Jeff.

[@LedgeTears377]

U

[@misteridiot]

Crazyfireball 808 That's not how you spell 'yes'. Or 'bacon'. Or even 'tabula rosa'.

[@Toughfey]

No

[@lucian5389]

I think this is one of the few situations where most of us can agree that a console would be better than this PC

[@fireoil]

interesting anyway for people want to "finish" steam game. My gpu on my laptop dies, after 6 years of use. I can replace it but for almost the same price, i can have this steam console to just finish my old steam library. I don't want to put another 1800€+ in a comptuer nowadays to play, consoles are enough for me right know, i just need mid spec pc to play... but maybe there is always a better alternative to build a very cheap good 1080p PC in 2019/2020 to finish 2011-2017 games

[@ScottsHonestReviews]

where did you get your live subscriber counter?

[@getshrekt9044]

Tbh this is the best tech channel ive been subscribed to

[@getshrekt9044]

2018GameRoom Specialist :D

[@getshrekt9044]

2018GameRoom Specialist \;-;/ rwar

[@getshrekt9044]

2018GameRoom Specialist I couldn't come up with any more... Lol

[@uppercaseblue4797]

What about ur avg customer

[@adgo6088]

Austin Evans is better

[@TechJames]

I still want one :D

[@vegetables3375]

Tech James hey tech James thank you for all your wii hacking videos

[@Gryffon-wf3oh]

I'm sorry but you really don't. It has a problem with breaking down and to stop working completely. If it would do that you would have to send it back to Intel to fix your motherboard. Which would take about a month. Then after you got it back it would break again within a week. I just recommend saving up for a gaming PC that won't break every week or two.

[@Venturror]

Tech James I wouldn't get the steam machine I would get the Alienware alpha instead

[@klimadzu]

one D for you my friend

[@christiankingston5186]

Selling an i7 on eBay if anyone wants one... I used it for a while but due to financial issues am selling it...

[@ErikSaucegod]

I got one this Christmas. Just the regular steam machine i5 and I slapped in windows 10 and now it’s my first somewhat computer. I installed invidia experience and I let them optimize my games but I love it. The only thing it lacks is USB ports

[@Fuzely]

A USB Hub should help

[@lukesalvidge5451]

Erik Saucegod which one?

[@ErikSaucegod]

the regular steam machine. not the alpha but just the one that has an i5

[@angelorohit]

Who's here after seeing the Steam Deck announcement?

[@boozerswine156]

I have a steam machine but ive never had any problems with it

[@bepaye07]

Is the steam machine pay to play online?

[@mettaaa8061]

Its doesn't, it uses you're steam Account so basically it does not have the whole "Pay to Play Online" Feature

[@GregTheCamper]

try and not blink for 5 seconds, Frank

[@Kaxon]

Liam gotta keep those eyes hydrated

[@TheKingOfCurses98]

He is a hardcore fan of blink 182😉

[@skrrt1156]

ez i did it

[@coolmaddox5984]

@@skrrt1156 he was talking about how the youtuber blinks alot

[@MrRayCist]

that blinking gives me depressions

[@1337b2]

The moment you realize the steam machine has better specs than your own pc

[@Venom-sy2dw]

Build a new PC

[@bobs8005]

Venom why

[@Angelfyre.]

I have a feeling this concept could revive itself, with the Deck having perfected their OS and with the game’s compatibility being heavily pursued by many Devi think theirs definitely a chance for Steam Machine 2

[@alex.g7317]

I agree, when I heard about its shortcomings, I was like, “oh yeah, that’s not a problemo anymore!”

[@HulksterHogan]

The thing running on Linux was definitely the biggest killer of the console. Valve shouldn't even have considered releasing it until they fully released Proton, it would of effectively tripled the library and if we are going by the numbers of how many games are playable with Proton now it would of jumped from 600 games to 6,000. Some people might say they should of gone with Windows but I really doubt that would of been possible considering it was a competitor to the Xbox and even if Microsoft would of somehow been fine with it Valve definitely would of had to pay out the ass in licencing fees.

[@OurFantasyLife]

I actually almost bought one of these for about $200 at GameStop when they were clearing them out...it actually wasn't a bad little system at that price but I ended up just making a solid gaming computer instead.

[@foshbz2687]

I would totally buy one today if you could upgrade the GPU too and not just the CPU. I’d pay 500$ for a modern one with a R3 1200, GTX 1050 and 8GB Ram. But it would have to have Windows

[@doublevendetta]

fosh bz there is an R2 refresh, and while you can't upgrade the INTERNAL GPU, it is a 4GB desktop class 960, and it does support the Alienware graphics amplifier external GPU enclosure.

[@foshbz2687]

DoubleVendetta (*******Chance Cox*******) I know about the refresh but having one with a modern GPU and CPU would be cool. I know a 960 is just as fast as a 1050. But the heat and TDP would be much lower. Put a 1050 and a T class Intel cpu and it would be cool and quiet

[@doublevendetta]

fosh bz I owned both models at one point in time each. The second one really isn't that much louder than the first, or all that much warmer, especially when you think about the fact that it's 2X the horsepower. And the 960 in the R2 doesn't just compete with the 1050, it competes with the 1050 *Ti.*

[@atiagooqkinguliaalu4027]

Then buy a pc!

[@jeanboy9108]

With the last version of the steam machine you where able to get an adapter to use your own external gpu

[@SovietMods]

Rip Steam Machine Hello Steam Deck

[@ciru.]

I actually bought one of these and put windows on it. Runs things great for my little brother

[@mycoinsyourpurse2244]

Love the form factor of course. It made me make a sweet horizontal ITX build.

[@Maverynthia]

I wonder how it would do now, since the price point of the Steam Deck is the same and lots of comapnies are making their games "Steam Deck" compatible.

[@al-adeelah2507]

While steam machine did objectively fail. I can see it rippling effect to this day. with more game releases considering Linux, and the current Vulcan trend.

[@sentientarugula2884]

Nice

[@ttherexy1469]

Who is here for steam deck

[@joshuahickson4976]

The Alienware Alpha is sort of a beta version of this; same specs, shipped with Windows 10 and an Xbox 360 controller. You can find them online for ~$500

[@SSpore]

Joshua Hickson that’s actually the computer I use

[@joshuahickson4976]

ElderlySpore9 cool

[@ThePunisher2346]

I got one its badass

[@notposs]

Wish he'd have wiped the console down before those closeup shots of the grub on there lol

[@SpeedySPCFan]

Something I don't think you mentioned is that it seems to be practically identical to the Alienware Alpha line, down to the cut out on the case for the Steam logo and lights (but the logo is obviously missing). My boyfriend has been using the i3 model for the past few years and I think got identical performance to you; it's not an awful computer, and for the price and form factor it's nice, but it's definitely showing its age. I think these might also be nearing the end of their life with support because his wi-fi drivers broke with a Windows 10 update and there's been no fixes for it at all.

[@joelwilliams1376]

Completely forgot about this, I remember wanting one and then it just vanished.

[@georganatoly6646]

The SteamOS was actually a huge selling point and if steam machines in general took off would have been a huge boon to the overall ecosystem of non-pc gaming.

[@blackphoenixfamily8477]

Alienware is 'hated' because they got bought out by DELL.....

[@valent1ne_d4c]

Facts

[@bill_clinton697]

Dell, more like Hell.

[@r3zaful]

BlackPhoenix Family they start to make a less powerful and less customizable laptop currently. I miss upgrading availability like their m18x, changing laptops gpu and cpu like a fucking desktop is really satisfying.

[@Badger2357]

no because there over priced

[@FarukTTA]

why Dell Is one of the best gamming laptop company no Stupid Led Coloured Keyboard doesnt have a case that is more then 5 KG doesnt have 5 or 6 Fans or random Stripes its just a black Machine that runs perfectly

[@thetrueone1621]

Friend:what did you get for christmas Me:Steam machine

[@PunkHippie1971]

Valve did not market it enough for the console crowd. It’s like they couldn’t decide wtf it’s supposed to be. They should have gone for a low budget controller played console instead. $399 max. It was also dumb that you can browse games you can’t even play on the steam store. Needed to have it’s own store. Not a turn on for console players. Would have been better to create a starting lineup of compatible games and put ONLY THOSE on the steam machine games store.

[@CreatorPolar]

It played games on steam so it couldnt have trash specs or you couldnt play 95% of the games available making it useless unless they put custom parts into it and created a steamOS 2 so games could be optimised for it

[@oppastoppa9786]

It doesn't play disks, disks are a very underrated "feature"...

[@VintageWrestlingFan]

Roblox Dabber disks are dying

[@GoodnotGreat88]

Disks are dead

[@GoodnotGreat88]

I have crippling depression nope, games are tied to accounts. System bricks, get a new system and redownload the games

[@FloppyDisk893]

**Discs*

[@oppastoppa9786]

Irony is a weapon Dicks*

[@LundinSebastian]

I remember when they launched this. I just wondered how they were going to convince people that this is better than plugging your PC straight into your TV. I've invented a box that u can put food in and it's cold but it's not a refrigerator and it's not a cooler bag.

[@ecnation9725]

Don’t you mean when VALVE made a console?

[@WunRom]

So is there no console PC consoles anymore?

[@Chr0n0s38]

A few things seemed off while I was watching this. First, just a note in your description. From my understanding the Steam Machine was Valve's official offering, while a Steam Box was any other computer that ran SteamOS on it (since that was freely available). Second, Valve can't control what games are released for Linux other than games they make themselves. It's up to the game developers to make that choice. Valve likely picked Linux because it would have been cheaper for them. I'd also like to point out that counting the software library based on pages isn't really the best way to do it. Games have different numbers of DLC/micro-transactions, so if one game has 3-4 pages worth of it and isn't on Linux that makes Linux support look worse than it really is. Even just counting games isn't the best way to do it since there are a ton of crappy games that are Windows only. It would be better to look at the top 1000 games (or whatever number) on Steam, and get a percentage of the ones that are available for Linux. With a little work, many of the Windows only games can work on Linux as well (macs too for that matter), though just like installing Windows on there, you really can't expect a non-technical user to know this/figure out how to do it. Just a small technicality, SteamOS isn't really based on Linux, it uses Linux. They added some custom drivers and other software on top of Debian. This is a Linux system, not a system based on Linux.

[@lukedupont6238]

It's not hard to port a game to Linux on steam: I think Steam just needed to get more developers on board, and also ADVERTISE more. I didn't know that steam machines even existed for the longest, and many of my friends didn't either. One thing that Steam did succeed in is bringing a lot of games to Linux overall though: I ditched Windows 10 in favor of Linux for my home PC, and I can play 70% of my steam library: granted, I tend to like Indie games and older games, so my numbers may be a little skewed. Anyway, it's ridiculous that so many developers are locking themselves into Windows 10 as their sole, proprietary platform in 2018. There's so much potential for cool and innovative devices if developers just made their games more portable, because it's neither practical nor desirable to just run Windows 10 on everything, and I do believe it to be a legacy platform that, while well entrenched, will eventually be eclipsed by more open platforms as Microsoft attempt to lock it down more and more.

[@johnbrown9181]

> granted, I tend to like Indie games and older games, so my numbers may be a little skewed. Many indies are familiar with some form of UNIX (be it Linux, BSD, or OSX), and are happy to port them even if it's not financially viable. That last point matters far more for AAA publishers, hence why they rarely release Linux versions. > Anyway, it's ridiculous that so many developers are locking themselves into Windows 10 as their sole, proprietary platform in 2018. Basically all the AAA games are on consoles, and it's mostly indie games that don't have console ports. In any case, they're (for the most part) not locking themselves in - they're selling for the major markets, but not using UWP or anything else extremely hard to port away from - if a new platform comes out (eg, the Switch), and it's a major platform, you'll see a sudden flurry of ports.

[@aquazus]

@@johnbrown9181 You guys forgot to talk about Proton : Their own flavour of Wine/DXVK they made to make a lot of games playable on Linux even if they are not ported. I could play some triple A games that were Windows-only without any problem. They are actively developing this so I will not be surprised if another version of the steam machine comes out.

[@johnbrown9181]

​@@aquazus Wine always has been, and always will be, rather finicky. Sure, a game might mostly work fine, but maybe controller support on Wine is botched - I'm mainly thinking about Subnautica here (apparently the issue also exists when used with Proton which has it's own Steam-based controller driver). Or maybe there's some rendering issue in a major title that only appears under certain conditions, and takes a lot of work to track down. Maybe an anticheat incorrectly identifies Wine users as cheaters - IIRC this has happened several times before. Finally, games generally perform far worse under Wine than they do under Windows. DXVK is certainly better than wined3d, which is certainly better than wined3d five years ago (oh the horrors, not being able to use D3D11 back then), however it still has MAJOR performance issues. In general, Wine is excellent for running Windows software on UNIX-like platforms (be it Linux, BSD, or OSX) - however it will always have a lot of issues, and is more of a compromise than anything else. That's fine if you already have a reason to use one of those platforms, but if it's a game console then there isn't. Plenty of Mac users have never used the command line before, and would never dream of using BSD, but that doesn't stop them from using the PS4. Consoles are there for the purpose of playing games. A console that plays most games, though some of them have technical issues, some of them need you to set DLL builtins, some need you to install different versions of libraries b/c the newest versions don't work in Wine, is not something most people will want to use. Here's the fundamental problem: why would anyone ever want to use SteamOS, when they could just install Windows on that exact same hardware (or buy it with Windows preinstalled)? Anyone who doesn't already have a Steam account and only wants to play games on the couch isn't going to buy a more expensive, worse advertised and unsupported by any major publishers, Steam Machine. Anyone who does already have a Steam Machine and an extensive Steam library that they don't want to switch away from should be comfortable buying the Windows-based version of the console, and that won't have any of the aforementioned issues. TL;DR Wine is great, but completely unsuitable for building a console around.

[@faheemiqbal9665]

i think they should like have it on windows but run something like the steam big picture mode all the time. that would be better

[@whatareyoulookingat4045]

Steam machmeme or Meme machine or Steam meme machine What's best?

[@I_was_a_Bullfrog]

Eric Cartman Steam Memechine

[@littlepandathebambooeater9940]

Stmeme machine

[@etxlklic2921]

Lean clean steam machine

[@user-jn7xd4sm3q]

Steam meme lean machine

[@ShadowHunter984]

Dr. Robotniks Steam Meme Machine

[@ohgodno2733]

This was such a good idea I just wished they would try again

[@ElijahNMitchell]

Snagged a steam machine i3 at a pawn shop for $200! (they were about $400 at the time). The pawn shop had no idea what it was. Installed Windows and turned it into an Alpha. Been happy overall with it.

[@garrold7123]

Why remember? I want to buy one of these but they're not available ;-; WHY?!

[@hypertendencies_]

Haha I remember when I had this back in 2015 when they first came out. It was a very powerful PC for its small size but you can't get much out of it. However, it is a very good starter PC and I recommend it for anyone who is interested in getting in to PC gaming.

[@leonthesleepy]

Here after Steam Deck was announced ;)

[@DarkPhychic]

It will fail just like Steam Machine :)

[@leonthesleepy]

@@DarkPhychic we'll see ;) ~Gabe Newell

[@SolidZone26]

​@@DarkPhychic Can't wait until you are proven wrong. You'll come back to your comment and realize how it didn't age well. :)

[@AdventFate]

Yeah, they botched a console but surely they'll get a handheld right and topple Nintendo where everyone else failed for the last 30 years. So everyone says...

[@Platinum199]

@@DarkPhychicit’s already better then a switch

[@rudysarcade]

Yea I run one of these in the bedroom with windows 10 8gb memory and 500gb SSD drive . Works perfect still.. I don't do big gaming on it but GTA 5, pinball, hearthstone etc..

[@saykrus]

Your accent is so inoffensive and neutral, earned yourself a subscriber buddy! :'D

[@KayX291]

The reason it failed IMO was that it got released too early and was overpriced. If Valve patiently waited till 2017 and putted AMD stuff on it, then it'd be something. Since that year AMD's open source driver got really good so it would be useful for their SteamOS which is a Debian-based Linux distribution. If Valve decides to redo the Steam Machine thing, they should consider an option to let the customer to choose the hardware parts while having pre-made ones as an option. SteamOS right now just received an update and has a recent Linux kernel and graphics card drivers.

[@JainaSoloB312]

Ayyy what's your opinion on the new Steam Deck?

[@aymayoof]

Remember when your mom gave birth to you?

[@randomfrankp]

boooom good one!!!

[@gedeost]

No

[@Dmt42069]

U funny guy. Should go to circus where you play

[@Mortario]

aaa Mmm nope

[@seano_4319]

aaa Mmm she never showed up!

[@erikliljeberg1796]

Remember Halo 3?

[@TheTca211]

when halo was still good. would of rather it stopped then turn into what it is now..

[@Hybred]

2018GameRoom Specialist infamous is the correct word, not famous. I've never heard of you

[@ErraticHail]

Best game by many. Halo 4-5 are absolute walrus dick cheese compared to Halo 3

[@luizphilipe6970]

2018GameRoom Specialist so you got any money for your work ?

[@cassidyrosestearns586]

I kind of wish people would look at the original alienware version that I believe released before SteamOS. It used Kodi, which had full controller support but ran on windows essentially and didnt have the linux limitations so you could play essentially any game you had on steam. It was the first PC I ever owned and it led me to building my own PC. The version that came with Kodi also supported a desktop mode which allowed windows to run normally. It was much better than the steam version. Still though, with only an old dual-core processor you couldnt do a whole lot.

[@Rattonikus]

My only problem with the steam machine (I picked one up back in 2016) was the os. But it was really easy to install Windows 10, I grabbed my laptop, a spare use made a win 10 bootable install went into bios set boot priority to USB, boot to us follow install, once Installed install drivers, then install steam and start up Big Picture mode, and boom, you've just made a better steam machine! Now I have a real gaming PC (16GB DDR4 ram GTX 1070 Intel core i7 8700k

[@ViroVV]

No, because steam never made one. All they did was license others their brand to make branded PCs

[@vincentm.3156]

Ah yes, the Cleveland Steam-Box

[@leoczarneckiauger652]

Big Ounce you've ever heard of a snowdog?

[@pokemonprison3080]

Leo Czarnecki Auger "Have you ever had a threesome?"

[@Danneman93]

praise gape newell!

[@leoczarneckiauger652]

PokemonPrison no

[@poopcatgameplay8495]

Who's here after the steam deck

[@oatbelly8195]

Valve can't afford to lose money on each unit sold, they like to overprice things and make their profit on each unit sold. Xbox and PlayStation can afford to offer great performances with their consoles at a very decent price. PC gaming has great potential for gaming but overpriced when you compare it a console. If Xbox or PlayStation released a console worth thousands, it would trump any high end gaming PC

[@Platinum199]

Steam deck is sold at a loss

[@AlexSeibz]

In terms of games not being compatible, no mention was made to using Proton to play Windows games like Doom perfectly on Linux.

[@MrEdit-ic7th]

I remember when this was announced and thought it was a cool idea, but immediately forgot and all these years later suddenly remembered, wondering what happened to it

[@lalaelien]

I got my Alienware r2 back in 2014 still amazing today with a brand new 1070 inside it.

[@lalaelien]

Raptoast I first had to get rid of the small fan in the case to add some room and then I removed the cd drive and harddrive. I got the Asus turbo 1070 blower fan so the air comes out the back of the case. Its a very tight fit but is amazing. Then my ssd inside and my harddrive is in an adapter which I plug with a usb to my x51.

[@huzcer]

Alpha never had a cd drive

[@pokemonprison3080]

Minom Pnom He said alienware r2, not alpha.

[@FamousWolfe]

Couldn't watch this video to completion, so many inaccuracies. First off, the Steam machine you're reviewing wasn't made by Valve, it was made by Dell. It's called the Alienware Alpha and it's still being sold by Dell. Valve worked in cooperation with Dell sure but ultimately it's Dell's product, not Valve's. Second, regarding Steam OS, you said it's "Linux based". Steam OS is a distro or distribution. Steam OS is derived from Debian Linux. Not to be an elitist but I can tell you're not really a Linux user. Third, you stated you game on Windows 10 because "it's easier" and found the lack of games off-putting. Fair point, however you failed to catch what Valve was trying to do. As it stands, Linux commands roughly 2% of the OSes on people's computers. Apple and OSX command another 8-10% and the vast majority (88% roughly) is Windows. When game developers make games, they first determine who their target audience is and what OS they're using. Usually, this means that computer game devs make games for Windows and historically ignore Linux users because we're the minority. The end result is the vast disparity of games between the two OSes. Valve's Steam Machine initiative was an attempt to lure more game developers over to Linux, and to an extent it was successful. There's been a big increase in the number of games available for Linux, but nowhere near what's available for Windows 10. While I freely admit that it could be seen as a failure, Valve themselves have stated they have a few more proverbial tricks up their sleeves regarding Steam OS and Steam Machines. Maybe we'll hear about it at E3 this year. Maybe not.

[@masiyahearl4476]

Aye bruh ya typing to much, like stop

[@jefferyharambe5067]

KraftyzFTW why should he?

[@ROOKTABULA]

@@jefferyharambe5067 "Readin' and lerrnin' hurts muh brain. Thinking sucks!"

[@johnbrown9181]

> Second, regarding Steam OS, you said it's "Linux based". Steam OS is a distro or distribution. Steam OS is derived from Debian Linux. Not to be an elitist but I can tell you're not really a Linux user. Calling SteamOS Linux-based is technically true. 'The' Linux (the kernel) isn't an OS - it's a kernel. By itself, your computer cannot do anything useful. By combining it with a userspace (GNU/BSD), a graphics server (X11/Wayland) and a desktop environment (most commonly KDE/G[NU ]NOME), you get an OS. For brevity, most people refer to the Kernel+Userspace+Graphics Server+DE stack simply as 'Linux', which is fine and makes sense since 'GNU+Linux+X11+KDE' doesn't roll off the tongue. * > When game developers make games, they first determine who their target audience is and what OS they're using. Usually, this means that computer game devs make games for Windows and historically ignore Linux users because we're the minority. The end result is the vast disparity of games between the two OSes. There are three ways to get most games to be compatible - and having most (if not all) the major AAA games onboard was mandatory if it was to succeed: 1. Have a large enough userbase that it is always profitable to port - this is why every major game comes out on both consoles. 2. Pay developers to port their games - this is extremely expensive, and many publishers don't want their games on Steam anyway. 3. As an alternative to getting the AAA games on side, release many system-exclusive high-quality first-party titles - this is the Nintendo approach. Valve probably was only ever going to have a chance if they heavily subsidized the hardware (to establish 1 as fast as possible), spent silly amounts of money on getting games ported (2), and release several major first-party titles (3) - due to the number of titles required to meaningfully make a difference, this would likely have to be by paying 3rd-party developers to develop exclusives. This would be absurdly expensive, and they weren't willing to pay, hence the flop. * Whether we call this stack GNU+Linux or just Linux is irrelevant to the point, and neither Linux nor the GNU userspace are operating systems.

[@RePeLSTeeLTJe--]

>actually explains that this is not the OG steam machine in the video >Steam themselves call it "linux based" (and i mean, it IS) >Steam OS platform is as dead as Harambe, and you are actually arguing against that, claiming it's still a victory in a way I'd really like the Linux community a lot more if people like you did not exist. It's an OS, not a best friend that's being bullied, but an OS, why even bother typing this BS comment?

[@ginatails]

I thought the only console Steam made was the Steam Link... I never knew these existed

[@madmax2069]

Now since Valve has Proton, that eliminates most of the compatibility issues, they should have had that back then with this. So going from the benchmarks the GTX 860m is around the same as the GT 1030.

[@LinkieLinkGameing]

Dont use PUBG ever for benchmarking! PUBG is so unoptimised and laggy even if you have a Nasa super computer.

[@unusualsky2300]

Wtf oof

[@thomas-on4eo]

First Video I watched from you and I love you, btw I subscribed.

[@dnh3005]

ThatAgeraOverTherw same

[@aidan8667]

So is it a PC or Console?

[@TheRealIsaakAllen]

I bought one of these back when it came out except one thing, it ran windows instead. At the time i got it around $400 and it was a god damn steal. It had it's problems, but it was more cost efficient and better performing than any prebuilt or possibly custom build at that price point. It was a fantastic intro to pc gaming and I have since built my own machine. But i will always look back at this fondly.

[@hubertlenningrad2252]

Man, I really hope they can fix their steam OS and release it again. I am so sick of the pissing contest between console companies an opensource console would be completely awesome!