Xbox Should Not Make A New Console

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Should Microsoft make another Xbox?
And if they do, what should it be?
Maybe they’ll make a handheld!
Or an AI box!
Or nothing at all!
Maybe every xbox game will end up on the playstation or the switch I don’t know.
Today I will dive into whether I, me, personally, think that Microsoft will make another Xbox, and if they do, what I, me, personally, think that it should be.
So yeah
That’s the video

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[@chickenwings6172]

PS1 32bit to the PS2 128bit was the biggest leap. but snes to N64 was the first and a huge ass leap.

[@rocko7711]

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[@Planag7]

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[@vintagedot8350]

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[@GenBumbleBee]

well i can tell your a ponie. heres hoping fit does a video on u

[@thehorizonstudios]

Honestly, they kind of need to go into a Nintendo route and start innovating again, rather than just making another underpowered pc with crappy UI and zero exclusives Edit 1- MOM GET THE CAMERA Edit 2- for the people who say exclusives are crap, look at the massive success of nintendo, who dont have other buisnesses to get money from

[@user-ex6xc5ox3k]

One problem: Microsoft absolutely sucks at innovation.

[@ZontarDow]

The last time they tried to innovate they announced the Xbox One and they still haven't recovered.

[@kameronjones7139]

You haven't watched the video

[@lcoyle1998]

They have far more exclusives than Sony this year and given the sheer volume of studios they own and the amount of time it takes to make a AAA game, Xbox will almost certainly end up with far more exclusives than Sony unless there's a major shakeup. Nintendo worked out the real secret to exclusives; just don't try to be graphically ground breaking, the vast majority of consumers don't give a shit. Mario Kart 8 has sold more than any Xbox or PlayStation exclusive ever has...

[@boogerpicker8104]

It’s definitely not a crappy pc, the series X packs a punch when it wants to

[@Filthy_Cubes]

Microsoft needs to make a high powered console that is capable of running Blumpo Remastered

[@jackkane9679]

True

[@Hypnotically_Caucasian]

And Gwimbly IV: The Creamed Corn Strikes Back

[@richmanifesto1090]

I'm not upgrading for anything other than full immersion vr at this point

[@mrwri]

Microsoft should focus on making an open platform console. Something that runs Windows and can operate as a personal computing device. We could call it the "perfect console" or "PC" for short.

[@TheRenegade...]

If I could buy a disc drive for my PC that allowed me to play my collection of Xbox 360 and One games on Windows 11 machines, I’d get rid of my One S and not be considering switching to Mac and/or Linux

[@Extreme2SwaggerHD]

No they shouldnt do that that would be stupid and silly. You would have hackers on online games like gta online.

[@Sinaeb]

@@Extreme2SwaggerHD consoles literally don'T stop that

[@nzpowa._.6662]

Weren't people emulating on xbox and even got some fans making carryable TVs to attach to their Xbox series S to make it a portable console?

[@sookendestroy1]

Xbox: Home Xbox: Office

[@Outta-hz1ej]

I felt like the Series X just came out and we're talking about the next one?!

[@megamanx1291]

Yea they wanna go next gen in 2026 which is a great play, they shouldn't drop next to Sony anymore and try to be as if they're next to sony. They need a new installbase between the generations

[@marceloslacerda]

Yeah and graphics have only incrementally improved in the last few years. Hard to imagine that many people would be willing to upgrade.

[@samin90]

2020 was 4 years ago, in this point of the OG Xbox's lifecycle we were already talking about the 360

[@TheRenegade...]

Traditionally consoles have come out every five years. Last generation was kind of an exception

[@Outta-hz1ej]

@@samin90 Jesus, that's a scary thought. 4 years ago, huh

[@ozpin8329]

I remember that weird era at the end of the PS2's life cycle where games would be made for every console on the market. It was crazy to walk into a store and see copies of the same game designed for the PS2, PS3, *and* PS4 along with the 360 and One, Wii, and a stripped down version for the DS which was a little more than a mobile game. There was also this trend to have each version have its own exclusive character or features. One of the Soul Caliber games came out on all three major consoles, and each of them had an exclusive character only for that version: Link for the GameCube, Darth Vader and Yoda for the Xbox, and Heihachi for the PlayStation if I remember correctly. EDIT: Stinger pointed out that it was Spawn for the XBOX version, and Vader/Yoda was a later release.

[@Stinger420]

Spawn was for Xbox. You're thinking of SC4, that one had Yoda/Vader. SC 2 or 3, can't remember.....had the console exclusive characters. But yah, i agree with your overall point.

[@ozpin8329]

That was it! I couldn't remember exactly what game had what characters. This was over 15 years ago so my memory is a little fuzzy

[@SocksFC]

I remember the Spider-Man 2002 game on Xbox having exclusive Kraven levels. Even though this isn't too good of a practice to have content locked depending on the console, I do kinda miss it, gave each version of the game its own quirks

[@garydiamondguitarist]

One of the more sane, reasonable, rational and true observations in the comments here, rather than spin or lies. Yeah I remember that time too, right back in the golden era of gaming. Must have been hard work for all those developers to get all those games running across so many different platforms with very different architectures, but they managed it. These days Microsoft and Sony have PCs in branded boxes, and yet developers aren't always able to get something that works smoothly on all of them despite often using the same game engines and having the same x86 architecture to work with. Seems like a massive step backwards, or a regression to use a stronger word.

[@ennayanne]

usually handheld ports were completely separate games developed by different teams back then

[@aidans.9435]

We’re definitely witnessing the end of the PlayStation vs Xbox vs Nintendo status quo

[@CM-di1oz]

I think that Nintendo basically dropped out with the switch. Very few people have a Xbox and ps but many people have a xbox,ps,pc and a switch. It’s basically in its own realm now, and honestly the game cube was probably the last true “game console” by Nintendo like in terms of a traditional console

[@77wolfblade]

@@CM-di1oz I think they understood that you need a flow of games for a system no matter what flashy features it has, if it has no games then the console is worth nothing.

[@danf7411]

​@@CM-di1ozNintendo just does their own thing, they gave up after the GameCube. Then they released their new console with a gimmick and it sold more than a ps2

[@CM-di1oz]

@@danf7411 the swtich has yet to sell more than the ps2

[@SpottedHares]

@@CM-di1ozas of last report it only a few million less then ps2, expect led to match it early next year. So only marginally inaccurate.

[@Web720]

22:40 If MS does this, then every console manufacturer now has their own identity. Nintendo for the hybrid, Sony for traditional, and Microsoft for this quasi-console PC thing.

[@zadock6370]

quasi-console PC thing best description ever

[@Flyingclam]

Wouldn't the Steam Deck be the third?

[@Web720]

@@Flyingclam No because we are talking console manufacturer. Valve technically isn't one.

[@77wolfblade]

@@Web720 If Valve wanted to they could offer their steam OS to other manufacturers if they wanted creating in Linux like consoles if possible.

[@duderdude4831]

Traditional consoles won't exist in 15 years. PC's are the real competition which Microsoft understands, and Sony is starting to realize

[@SocksFC]

I feel like the next console should incorporate elements from the 360 days. Make avatars a focus again, have a fully customisable UI, bring back the varying colour schemes, make the console itself feel like THE ultimate console. The 360 had a great balance of AAA (back when they were of higher quality imo) and a large library of indies on the Xbox Live Arcade. Make gaming feel lively again

[@voltairethegoldflame9280]

absolutely agree

[@dragonusmolamola4140]

i love customization like that so much

[@JumCuggler]

This is basically what PCs do. Valve and PCs in general have cornered that marked.

[@BrandonTBlackwell]

YeH, the UI on the Xbox One|Xbox Series X feels so corporate and lifeless

[@genderender]

i absolutely hate how barren the modern consoles are. there's no sense of you in them, just a box that probably displays ads to you when you just want to boot up a game

[@holben27]

Your forgetting the biggest draw of pc: you can have one powerful station for work and gaming. Which makes the investment worth it for a lot of people, since they likely need a computer for work and school anyway.

[@77wolfblade]

Also if you're patient you could get good deals for each PC part. The gpu market can be a bit funny at the moment especially with the AI money grabbing thing we are on but in some cases prices are slowly going down.

[@PulseAttack]

Most people dont wanna sit at their desk to game after spending all day on it working

[@WithDreday]

I find it distracting. Hard to get any real work on a gaming PC

[@BlueEyedVibeChecker]

And if you own a laptop, you also get a free space heater while you play, perfect for saving money in the winter.

[@BlueEyedVibeChecker]

@@PulseAttack That's why you game with a controller on it unless you're playing an FPS. Calling that a non-issue would be giving it too much credit.

[@zeliph]

Microsoft should release an official Xbox Original/360/One emulator with ROMs that can be legally purchased instead (similar to GOG, but Xbox). Then allow the community create extensions for that emulator. I'll buy that!

[@GayKermit-._-.]

That's not gonna appeal to the general public tho. Most people won't know how to emulate, and most gamers don't want to play old ahh games. I don't see this idea selling alone.

[@russellg1473]

you dont even need a glitch chip to rgh3 a 360 anymore. you can do all this for like $15 dollars of components

[@TheRenegade...]

And allow people to put their existing Xbox games through an emulator (built into Windows) if they have a disc drive. Or just use their existing digital purchases

[@boiledelephant]

Isn't XBC incredibly difficult to emulate for some technical reason, though? Even if you're the people that made it? Architecture, or something, idk.

[@BlueEyedVibeChecker]

That wouldn't work, you've seen how people are up in arms needing multiple launchers (I dislike it too, I bought it on Steam Rockstar, why do I need your launcher to play it when yours seldom works?) Microsoft would need to release them on Steam and lose money, on the Microsoft Store or proprietary launcher and lose peoples faith, or a mix of the two.

[@redwolf6213]

This video just came out 4 mins ago and already people are putting their opinions in before finishing the video. Classic.

[@GayKermit-._-.]

Typical low attention span KZbin commenters.

[@77wolfblade]

That's the Internet for you.

[@bunnystick]

Engagement is engagement I guess

[@Labyrinth6000]

They need to innovate again, I see zero reason of getting a console when I can play the same exact games on my PC!

[@lcoyle1998]

If you've got a PC, you're basically in a different market to consoles now and chances are, you owning a PC that likely has Windows, is far more profitable for Microsoft than a physical console. Like it or not, you being able to play more games on PC WAS the innovation. Hence Sony Copying it

[@DimensionsofChange]

Well it’s easy to say that, but what can consoles actually bring to the table in 2024 that PCs can’t?

[@Heropsychodream]

If an xbox could function as a PC, including the ability to upgrade parts if I wanted, I might actually be convinced to buy a console again. I just don't see the purpose in buying a console when I could just upgrade my PC and play games on that.

[@sookendestroy1]

They need to actually have unique exclusives, innovate with the console. The 360 pushed the kinect and people were crazy for it until they had it and realized it was mid, but people had an xbox and could get a ton of exclusives regardless of the kinect.

[@Midnight93933]

@@DimensionsofChangereliably and quickly getting into the game. No drivers, no bugs, consistency. I personally hate PC gaming because it gets in the way of the game, in the way of the fun. That’s how it feels to me personally.

[@evancoleman8910]

Xbox marketing issues can't be overstated. I'm a PC and PS5 gamer and I still don't know which Xbox is the latest one, the series S or Series X. Yes I could look it up in 2 seconds but the point is that I SHOULD be able to tell with the name alone and I simply don't know. Now maybe I would know the difference if they had any exclusives that would justify me searching it up, but as you mentioned their exclusives are pretty lackluster. Both of these issues combined, the marketing and lack of exclusives are huge IMO.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Yes the answer is yes.

[@Pellingtons]

The thing is as a PC gamer the PC version of gamepass effectively obsoletes the Xbox.

[@kingpatatochip3357]

@@Pellingtons ye thats the main problem imo, once ya have a pc theres 0 reason to have an xbox, no xbox excluives at all, atleast the ps5 has..... uh.... astro bot I guess?

[@TheRenegade...]

They came out on the same day

[@twistedobsession3659]

I think everyone knows that the latest Xbox consoles are the Series lineup.... They have a marketing problem, but you're really over selling it. If you're a PC gamer don't even worry about having an Xbox

[@Gell-lo]

They shot themselves in the foot by refusing to let their high powered console actually play at its peak.

[@ZontarDow]

Honestly once you get a SteamDeck there is no going back unless it's to an older system that isn't supported anymore.

[@Yixdy]

Lmao nah I/most people play 'old unsupported' systems specifically on the steamdexk

[@gameappreciation]

Get a 3DS for 3DS and DS games Get a steam deck for everything else

[@Yixdy]

@@gameappreciation agree, Ive played through like 10 or so 3/DS games on my steam deck to completion, but It still don't feel right tbh, I'd rather get a New! 3ds XL and load it up. y'know? But they got expensive and slightly more rare the day they announced the eShop closure and are only getting rarer lmao

[@fugitive6549]

steam deck is overhyped.

[@gameappreciation]

@@fugitive6549 Meh.

[@jimmiewhite9182]

Imo I feel like having an upgradable Xbox that you can use as both a computer and a console would be cool. Just every year offer different parts that you could use to upgrade the system and have it all streamlined to be easy for normies to use. That way you only release a "new" console every decade or so. A hybrid console, but instead of a Switch like mobile/console hybrid, you'd go on the other end and have a hybrid console and PC that you could use both for if you only wanted one. That's probably what I would do as a designer for the new Xbox.

[@herrabanani]

Not gonna happen. Upgradability is slowly being taken away. You can't upgrade laptops at all anymore, and with steam decks being released, you can't upgrade handheld PCs either. Soon they will start releasing all in one desktops that you can't upgrade either

[@syco9008]

That’s too smart for a corporation like Microsoft to do.

[@TheRenegade...]

Ironically, Nintendo is who comes to mind for upgradable consoles. Their consoles had expansion ports up to and including the GameCube, and games themselves could include hardware upgrades (since they were circuit boards) up to and including the Nintendo 64, which also literally had a RAM upgrade slot. There’s evidence that they preferred to increase the longevity of their consoles than to make new ones, although most of their schemes failed and they made new consoles anyway

[@walkingonneedles]

i would also try to emphasize a return of customization, which in general has been sorely missed everywhere in the tech indusyin favor of a "sleek streamlined professional" kind of look making everything look rhe same for brand identity or whatever. im not your brand representative im a user of your device you designed let me personalize it!!

[@haroldasusus4684]

That’s an absolute mess of marketing/manufacturing and probably more just to hope the Xbox user base essentially jumps through all the hoops the “build your own” pc people do. It only appeals to people that wouldn’t buy into Xbox regardless

[@JosephJohns-xi1qb]

Gotta love how the doom and gloom for the console market completely ignores Nintendo who are doing better than they ever have before. Yeah, yeah, argument that they aren't directly competing, but the Switch is also clowning on almost every system ever released and might even beat the PS2 for units sold.

[@TheKNIGHTELFMOHAWK]

Yeah that’s cause they have Exclusive titles that people want to play and are more family friendly

[@georgewashington6171]

Maybe if psxbox did something cool for once in the past 11 years instead of making slow pc's with nothing to do other than run pc games at 900p then maybe the doom and gloom wouldn't be here

[@SpottedHares]

@@georgewashington6171you have seen a console since the original ps1 right?

[@joshuaijaola2145]

how do you continue to grow in a finite system?

[@AtlasNovack]

Me with my Switch: 😐

[@TheRenegade...]

The Switch is the only console which justifies its existence (in any way other than non-game, non-subscription price) in a world where you can hook up a PC to a TV and use a controller (which will only become easier when Valve releases SteamOS 3 for anything other than the Steam Deck), even if the PlayStation 5 tries hard with its timed exclusives

[@SB-ex8nt]

It's weird to think about how there are more copies of MK8 out there than PS5 consoles.

[@asackboyplush6508]

​@@SB-ex8nt PlayStation is temporary, Mario Kart is eternal

[@fugitive6549]

Switch sucks.

[@CM-di1oz]

@@TheRenegade...this is very much true, all of this on top of the fact it’s portable it’s truely not just another game box 5 it’s actually like unique even. Not to mention Nintendo is Nintendo and really one of the only companies with exclusive people care about all that much

[@samuelsolomon7330]

Nothing tells me that there is no future for xbox more than MVC collection not being considered for the platform.

[@NoctisTheFolf]

It wasn't just "not considered" as easy as it would be to believe. The devs had issues with the engine on the new hardware and can't release on the Xbox right now. It may or may not come out later

[@mr.awesome6011]

Oh boohoo. Do you know how many times Nintendo fans have to see games not get released for our consoles? Even games that could run don't get ported half the time. You will know our suffering😈WAHOO!

[@San-nj8fj]

@@mr.awesome6011Nintendo has exclusives, Xbox doesn’t. Even then, most games you’d play on Xbox are also on PlayStation, meanwhile, Nintendo attracts a very different demographic

[@crystalwater505]

@@mr.awesome6011 Imagine buying a Switch for multiplatform games. Lol.

[@chelsicalhoun6266]

@@crystalwater505I mean I’ll admit that I have some multiplayer games on my switch. Especially plenty of banger indies.

[@babutler1607]

Okay but does Mondly have an owl that threatens my family if I forget to do a lesson

[@anthonygotttheonly]

Tyler, one thing that could throw a wrench in it all is the fact that Michael Soft may push for more budget cuts for the Xbox division

[@spartaninvirginia]

The Xbox naming convention also isn't helping.

[@boiledelephant]

Imagine a naive grandparent trying to buy one for a child. That's the litmus test. If they're buying used, the chances of them getting the right bit of hardware are essentially 1 in 4 (people still refurbish and sell XBCs for decent money!)

[@_reZ]

They are almost certainly gonna make a streaming stick, so that you can still play games on your tv conveniently (while actually having a game library unlike Google stadia) And ofc we have already heard whispers of this as project keystone, to play games via the cloud. Having a series P (portable) and a series K (keystone) or whatever they end up calling it, might be their next gen consoles.

[@theactualbluguy1957]

sad!

[@RotatingPlatypus]

I had no idea Sony promised Linux on PS2, that puts so much more into perspective.

[@GrandmaHasDied]

They released it as a full-on kit PS2 owners could buy. It came with a VGA adapter, a network adapter, a hard drive, a USB keyboard & mouse and a copy of Linux on a DVD. Hooking everything up would turn your PS2 into a full-fledged desktop computer. Linux on PlayStation carried over into the PS3 era. But eventually it was disabled in a firmware update that locked out all alternative OSes; which Sony had put out in a bid to curb game piracy. Some users went out of their way to sue Sony over this, claiming that the ability to run Linux and other OSes was a marketed selling point and the reason they had paid good money for the console.

[@TheKNIGHTELFMOHAWK]

Makes more sense that the us military used like a bunch of ps3 consoles to make a super computer and also used them for training the troops

[@sumomaster5585]

xbox made a great documentary about how it came to be, a great watch on their channel

[@Bronxguyanese]

Most console gamers play Sony playstation and Nintendo for mobile. Xbox series sx does not do well globally.

[@pixels_per_minute]

If leaks and rumours around Valves' possible "Steam Machine 2.0" are anything to go off of, then they'll have a pc/console hybrid directly competing with Xbox. When will that happen? I have no idea, but it's more believable than you'd think. The Steam Deck itself is a standalone device with the ability to connect to another instance of Steam. So just replace your Windows PC with a console running SteamOS and now you have a fully standalone ecosystem not reliant on Microsoft. You throw in Steam VR and the Valve Deckard, and you now have a cheaper one-stop shop for a large majority of PC games with a portable companion device in the form of the Steam Deck. Valve can also sell these things at a loss because they're an infinite money maker. The coming years are going to be interesting.

[@Roxor128]

Not a fan of the terminology "PC/console hybrid". I think it's better to put it in terms of a paradigm switch from "console as platform" to "console as form-factor". The Steam Deck is "handheld as form-factor". It's fundamentally a Linux laptop in a funny case. Consoles need to become desktop PCs in funny cases.

[@burrybondz225]

valve is not an infinte money maker compared to microsoft. What will happen when you can get the latest arm based cpu (in a decade since games are developed for x86 ) that runs cloud games based on azure infrastucture? what happens when the real money makers micorsoft pay valve to include a game pass app in their new console? would valve whose bread and butter is their pc market on windows dare to refuse? Who will be considered anti competitive between the two? I don't see how microsoft doesn't become a gaming monopoly in the next decade.

[@pingus9934]

​@@burrybondz225I'm like 100 percent sure PC users in general find BOTH game pass and steam beneficial. Matter in fact that's exactly what steam deck users are asking at the moment, to have game pass work natively on their steam decks. So if anything valve would def take that deal cause they know steam users won't completely switch over to gamepass when Sony is still releasing their sht on PC as well.

[@bit8793]

Instead of having a steam machine replacing your PC, use Linux with proton 😭

[@thecactusman17]

Everybody is thinking in the wrong direction. Microsoft should engage in the PC hardware space and start making high efficiency gaming performance PCs. A $500 PC with the performance metrics of the Series X would be a massive success. The Steam Deck is showing that a dedicated gaming PC is an effective low cost into to to a greater hardware and software ecosystem. Microsoft focusing on quality PC design with wide crossover between entertainment and business tools would be a really effective long term business strategy.

[@ninten360]

like i'm kinda surprise they don't just make gaming-oriented versions of their Surface tablets/laptops with Xbox branding

[@77wolfblade]

Xbox GPU? I like that idea.

[@gusgilmanreal]

😊

[@darealdeal8185]

Isnt that what the Xbox Series X basically is already, a dedicated high efficiency gaming pc for $500?

[@thecactusman17]

@@darealdeal8185 Yes, but I'm saying they should actually let owners plug in a keyboard and use a lightweight Windows version for doing basic home office stuff. $500 for a fully featured Windows PC with Series X gaming performance. This would be a perfect option for students and people with casual home office needs. Create a new tier of Game Pass that includes Office 365 and they would clean up vs other consoles and do well in the PC market as well.

[@capnceem]

The more I hear about Xbox the more it makes sense why I heard rumors of them buying Valve/Steam. I feel as opposed to that as I did the moment I heard the rumor, but I understand it a lot more thanks to you and your twin channel Whimsu

[@johnclark926]

I think that might’ve been misinformation/possibly engagement bait. There was that ancient list that Xbox made that stated that they were willing to buy out anyone in the gaming industry, but I don’t think Valve has been in the realm of possibility for a very long time, nor do I think it ever will be.

[@haroldasusus4684]

They said that about Nintendo too. No way Xbox could do either purchase with A. Being a monopoly or B. Simply not affording it Steam is 75% of the pc market and Microsoft having Xbox, windows, AND all of that is crazy

[@Amphibax]

Won't happen and I don't see any reason why Valve should sell also they are not publicly traded so MS can't just buy them.

[@burrybondz225]

No way the ftc let that ever pass.

[@fraizie6815]

The largest technical leap they claim will probably be dedicated AI hardware integration and games making use of AI as a story telling device

[@h3069]

I just don't see why you would buy a PC console hybrid when you could save for a little bit longer and get a respectable PC that you could do whatever with

[@boiledelephant]

It was such a generational thing. For a while, people of a certain age (born in the 80s) were put off PCs by the learning curve. Nowadays even pretty tech ignorant kids are happy to own a PC, because they use them for school anyway. That's the existential threat to consoles nobody predicted: a generational shift that nullified their ease-of-use selling point.

[@Badmunky64]

I was just having this conversation with my friends about a month ago. I agree. Microsoft's best move is to make it easier to get into the PC market. The big question is can they avoid fucking it up?

[@LegioXXI]

No, they can't. Windows 11 still struggles to "beat" Windows 10 while macOS and Linux shares are steadily increasing on the desktop. Their approach to "AI" (Windows recall) was also a huge flop even before it got live, in the EU it's likely that it won't even be legal. It's not just the Xbox where Microsoft is losing their grip. And they are aware of that. Thats one reason why they shifted their focus away from Xbox and Windows towards cloud services.

[@sumomaster5585]

@@LegioXXI I dunno about macs, but linux will forever be a niche with regards to desktop/laptops. It's junky, nobody wants that

[@willjoseph9004]

they're already getting weirdly tangled up with new ai and spyware lol.

[@Tenfey]

Is it finally time to unleash The Xsphere?

[@mr.awesome6011]

OKAMA GAME SPHERE!

[@StudioKelpie1993]

I think of the Xbox Portable as something like the Lenovo Legion Go, which is a portable Windows Handdheld using Windows 11, so it is possible and that cost like around $600

[@CyroAsseo]

love seeing a video just when it uploads

[@TheVideoGameHub12]

i still can't believe how bad microsoft fumbled the series x. the console wars were pretty close with the previous gen and then they just got blown out of the water. in sales and how good the product is

[@blakkwaltz]

2:15 to skip sponsor

[@justanotherinternetwiseguy8018]

Theyve been doing the "xbox series" thing since the mid to late 2010s Anyway. They should move on from that, its starting to get old. If they want to they can still make an xbox 720.

[@CooperDianeBob]

A lot of those consoles even the past generation are still incredible expensive in most countries

[@cloudwarrior1921]

So they’re gonna make a gaming laptop

[@kingvideogames]

20:51 I love how you can just have a picture of a horsehead here and it could be easily recognized as a Bojack Horseman reference.

[@friskjidjidoglu7415]

If Microsoft Gavin and just fully put windows in the Xbox, I don’t see how that wouldn’t just have people asking “ why should I buy an Xbox when I already have a computer? (Or a PS5 👀)”

[@myfunbox355]

For backwards compatibility they should make an xbox emulator for windows. I want an xbox emulator.

[@spartaninvirginia]

Xemu.

[@myfunbox355]

@@spartaninvirginia can't play Halo 2 without disapearing geometry

[@asuperrandomguy8266]

They could but that would require work...

[@Yixdy]

​@@myfunbox355it takes time, ps3 emulation used to suck dick on a decent PC, now my steam deck runs everything I've tried at it no issue. Just takes time my man

[@Fernando-ek8jp]

​@@myfunbox355then just get Halo for windows? The Master Chief Collection exists you know?

[@Bendilin]

A portable Xbox would basically be a modern phone with a built-on Gamesir X2 Xbox brand controller on it, just playing/streaming Gamepass.

[@RyluRocky]

I think they need to focus on making Windows functional for computers before they try and make it workable for the Xbox

[@Roxor128]

Meanwhile, Valve is focussing on making Linux functional for consoles. For computers, Linux is already there for most people. The few holdouts being games by developers too lazy to update their anti-cheat systems and crap from Adobe and Autodesk.

[@VladimirLlyichLenin]

Last time I was this early, old Billy's company was an actual computer company.

[@d00gz_]

We’re nearly at the end of this generation’s lifespan, and half the annual franchises like CoD are still coming out on last gen. Goes to show how little of a jump these new consoles made and how fewer people are interested this time around.

[@Ksescel]

I am a firm believer of the “final generation” of consoles. With the amount of switches we can put on a chip seemingly at its limit at some point companies should sit with one system and only make slight variations over the years.

[@WaterKirby1994]

Agreed Gen 10 will probably be the final generation all things considered. Civilization collapsing is 1 reason for it to happen, although PS5 & its Xbox Counterpart aren't much of an upgrade from PS4 & Xbox One.

[@Electric0eye]

I don't even expect them to stay in the gaming industry for long, I'll be very surprised if they make another console.

[@brian20023]

Imagine if they made the portable concept with the 3rd parties somewhat like the switch, but instead of just a dock it can be like a setup where it has a gpu or other setup to hookup with a monitor/tv to make it a more powerful console? maybe would be a method too to get into selling physical media like cartridges or discs for larger games perhaps

[@Kriptonic_M]

The only thing I wish they would do is add a PC aspect to the Xbox, like let it run windows 10, access to PC gamepass or something

[@Enigmod]

I saw Ultrakill, time to like the video.

[@piotrekzielinski920]

at 16:00 - the reason for me is time. On PC: I need to start a launcher, which starts a launcher, which needs an update, which starts rockstar club GUI, to start the game, to show start menu. Then I can play. I have PC and console, and I currently play on console.

[@johnclark926]

TBF it’s different on a case by case basis. Obviously the GTA games are important and it can be pain in the ass to boot them up, but for other games (and especially indies) the booting experience can be plug & play and comparable to console. I will concede that there’s an issue of consistency on PC compared to console though.

[@CyberWolf3526]

To note around the 16:50 mark... pc can not just focus on Resolution or framerate, but can focus on both high resolution and high framerate by turning down the graphics. Where as the consoles only really have two options... Resolution, or framerate... As the pc you can choose two out of the three. Good Picture clarity, high framerate, and/or high graphic settings. Where consoles is only choose one of these. Good Picture clarity, or High framerate

[@ip4pwn1]

The issue isn’t the power of the consoles. The issue is development time for AAA games have begun to match the generation lifespans

[@marsinvader9078]

The next Xbox should be the intersection of console and PC. Like a stationary, more powerful steam deck.

[@MERCENARYTAO1]

We had those already. They were called steam machines and bombed hard.

[@marsinvader9078]

@@MERCENARYTAO1 the world wasnt ready, and the disparity between console and pc wasn't yet wide enough to justify the change

[@asuperrandomguy8266]

​@@MERCENARYTAO1yeah but Linux is on other level now, the only thing holding it back now are Anti Cheats refusing to allow they to work

[@77wolfblade]

@@MERCENARYTAO1 Valve learned their mistake and they developed a proton which makes Windows games work on Linux. Next time round if they do plan a another steam machine they will probably do a different tactic and learn their lesson from the previous.

[@bronyinsticks]

One comment. We are severely confused as to why the console company that is owned by Microsoft a computer thing, why it hasn't just created a computer with an emulator that can emulate the Xbox... We mean they know that emulators exist it just seems like a waste of resources to not use an emulator to emulate your system.

[@lenowoo]

Millions of people still hold into their ps4 here at least, in a country of 250 millions, and many still bought one considering now you can get them as low as $200. It is still perfectly usable. Ps5 is 4 times as expensive and doesn't really have anything wow in it. In 5 years maybe (when it become cheaper), the sales would pick up.

[@professordetective807]

23:57 | I mean, they already have browser-based versions of Word, PowerPoint, Excel, Outlook, Teams (with a webcam), Clipchamp, OneDrive, etc. (presumably to compete with Google Workspaces). This means that the CURRENT Xbox can do spreadsheets, through Edge Browser, using a USB keyboard and mouse. I don't know why you would, outside of major financial issues (the Series S or the One X was, somehow, the cheapest "computer" you could get), but you CAN. I presume the "Portable" will be about the same, in that area.

[@lcoyle1998]

Increasingly it seems only Nintendo actually care about exclusives being 100% exclusive forever, I wouldn't be surprised if more and more the only dividing line between Xbox and PlayStation is the services they offer, Game Pass remains the best value offer on the market. Time goes by, I think they'll never break through in Asia but they'll be fine. Kinda like where they are now, now I think about it. Remember: consoles are loss makers and finite sales, games are profit making and have a much bigger potential audience...

[@Roxor128]

Pretty sure I remember reading somewhere that Nintendo was the only console manufacturer to turn a profit on hardware, and that Sony and Microsoft subsidise their hardware with game licensing.

[@TopFix]

Did this guy even watch the Showcase? The PS5 literally has no games. 60% of past-gen console owners haven't jumped ship to current-gen yet. This gen is far from over. Watch this space.

[@WaterKirby1994]

Nintendo Switch won the 9th Gen Console War & if PS6 & G10 Xbox refuse to try some crazy game evolution like Nintendo typically does alongside releasing actual games they will lose again next gen. Switch is likely to outsell PS2 soon as the best selling console to ever exist.

[@Coco1477]

What youre forgetting though is that most of those games will have higher sales numbers on PlayStation than on xbox, so there are third party games coming to playstation, and theyve also had 3 exclusive games already this year with another one coming out later this year, so i dont see how thats having "no games"

[@makingitwork2]

They would make the Handheld Xbox a controller bundled with the Xbox Series X^2, primarily market that you can stream the console games directly to the handheld in your house and maybe outside via the Xbox Cloud, and not actually tell anybody it works as a fully independent handheld that runs things natively on Windows X.

[@TheKNIGHTELFMOHAWK]

So like the PlayStation portal thing they made

[@kylespevak6781]

16:29 Let's be real, that hasn't been true in years. Day 1 patches, installing games you bought physically, updates, etc

[@TheKNIGHTELFMOHAWK]

Yeah but you don’t have to worry about having to upgrade your console to play the latest games for a few years. You just buy the game and it works don’t have to mess with the settings

[@vetar3372]

The 2600+ will win this generation obviously

[@gdot1803]

Xbox PC / Handheld PC = Valve wins. Most people will set it to launch Steam Big Picture, never buy games on the Xbox store, and only buy games on Steam.

[@TheKNIGHTELFMOHAWK]

lol

[@CM-di1oz]

I mean not to mention valve already makes a handheld that would likely be better than whatever Microsoft would put out

[@77wolfblade]

We have to wait and see if Microsoft would allow that.

[@havono_ch]

​@@77wolfbladethere were reports since March this year that Microsoft is open

[@tyjones9864]

This take makes no sense. If Xbox users(who it would be marketed to) were to buy one then they would be bringing their library over as well. Why would they all of a sudden start using Steam?

[@DIGITAL27]

Need to fix it network issue, it disconnects me every 30min, but works fine at night

[@matthewdrummond1340]

I thought I've seen ads for an Xbox handheld online this week. Edit: Turns out that was an Asus ROG Ally with access to Game Pass

[@KingOfMadCows]

Considering the success of the Steam Deck, Microsoft should probably make a handheld. You would be able to play a lot of Game Pass games on a handheld.

[@Number_072]

Do Legion and ROG ally have access to the Game pass? Those are handheld windows 11 PCs

[@The31stcenturyfox]

I wouldn't call the Steam deck successful. In it's first two years it only sold 3 million units. Which would be considered a failure to any other company. While the success everyone wants to copy the Switch sold 32.27 million in it's first two years. The problem is Microsoft and Sony don't take chances either. They just copy Nintendo and do a shittier (we've seen this before job) The scramble for play on the go reminds me too much of the kinect and playstation move botch jobs. I'm sorry I don't want to see another attempt to copy like the kinect botch job. That might kill the Xbox brand this time.

[@Roxor128]

@@The31stcenturyfox We know nothing about how much of a profit or loss Valve is making on the thing, nor how much they spent on developing it. Unless they release that information, we can't call it a success or a failure. It's just a thing that's been sold. All we can say for sure is that Valve think it's worthwhile to keep selling it. Maybe they think it's one. Maybe they think they can get it to be one. We just don't know.

[@The31stcenturyfox]

@Roxor128 it's all in terms of amount of sales compared to the big 3. Valve ID a different beast. They generate income off of steam like you wouldn't believe. Obviously you can make profit at lower sales other wise all these VR headsets and retro emulators wouldn't be bothered to be produced, but a successful and conpetive competitor to the big 3 it is not.

[@mapache-ehcapam]

May Lord Gaben live for ever

[@maux7767]

What if they're not making a Steamdeck so much as an Xbox Switch? A handheld PC that can plug and play into the TV kills two birds with one stone really. All the benefits of this while still capable of just being the button

[@baronvonjo1929]

Im still on a PS4. There just arent any new games that I even really buy for the PS4, let alone the PS5. The price is absolutely ridiculous.

[@burrybondz225]

and you pay about the price of a new game just to play online. Biggest scam in the industry. The controllers have a huge stick drift problem, so expect to buy new ones too.

[@PatchCornAdams723]

The last time I bought a console was a pre owned PS4 in 2022 just so I could play Bloodborne. Now it is a DVD player.

[@boxfoxscoot1614]

you could buy a console for about the same price as a pc locking yourself to a single company and be completely at the whim of whatever bad choices they make all while having a device thats less useful than a computer, or buy a computer for a bit more and have total freedom as well as a useful tool

[@burrybondz225]

A console's value proposition is unbeatable when it is brand spanking new. The nearest comparable pc will be almost double the price. The problem will be 3-4 years down the line when the newer gpus come out.

[@burrybondz225]

also you have to pay for online which feels horrible to pay for

[@burrybondz225]

getting gta 6 early will also add to their value proposition. sorry for the three comments

[@boxfoxscoot1614]

@@burrybondz225 id honestly argue that having the newest components is not that important because theres not really any major leaps in computing power anymore and most games on pc have something consoles dont: graphic settings also only the very newest biggest triple a games (that are looking to be increasingly worse in terms of value) will tax your system

[@kylespevak6781]

11:57 Wouldn't be an issue if they were just PCs with settings

[@5hane9ro]

I think they should, but make it cheaper than the competition. Personally, at this time, they should model the Xbox as the "walmart" of consoles. Have the cheapest entry point with cheap games.

[@TheKNIGHTELFMOHAWK]

I think that’s what they do with the series S right now

[@papasalvo]

16:19 this is incorrect You can, very easily, set up a pc to be turned on remotely within your home from a controller or a cellphone as well as open in steam big picture mode and control your PC with a controller. I did this for my media PC in my living room as well as connected it to a NAS using nothing but youtube videos and the longest part was the NAS and the whole thing took a like an hour but without the NAS it was closer to 25 or 30 minutes Out of the box? Sure console has the W but these chages are all native and take no technical expertise at all to implement and now u have a console that u dont pay sony or microsoft to play online, a wider variety of games, the ability to upgrade, and ability to always hit high frame rates or higher fidelity

[@bobvance-]

So i think how video games will eventually end up is through a subscription model. What Sony and Xbox should do is work together to make a console that plays all video games on a subscription model. This way both companies could still make money and developers would have a guaranteed stream of revenue. This could also benefit gamers with access to an entire video game catalog, so instead of purchasing an xbox or playsation they could own one console with access to games for a subscription with multiple tiers. This way you dont spend $500 on a console you never use because you dont like the games and have to buy another console + games. I think this makes the most sense in the future.

[@Roxor128]

What really needs to be done for consoles is to switch from "console as platform" to "console as form-factor". Having consoles as platforms is a huge obstacle to customers. That needs to go. The only difference that should exist between a console a Linux PC is the UI and input devices. Doing a console properly should just be a matter of grabbing some budget PC hardware, shoving it into a case that looks good under a TV, installing a Linux distro with a gamepad-optimised UI, and plugging in a gamepad. The only thing we're really missing right now is the OS. We've seen it in action with SteamOS on the Steam Deck. All we need now is a standalone version to install on whatever you have lying around.

[@grant1905]

So many years in and no price reductions. They are profiteering off each console.

[@zephaniahgreenwell8151]

@5:08 You act like the Xbox 360 and PS3 did not get mid-gen refreshes. There were at least 2 refreshes, depending on how you count them.

[@emiel333]

Hiroshi Yamauchi is laughing out loud in Heaven. He told once in an interview (back in the 2000’s) the following when asked about his opinion on Microsoft entering the console market: “They will fail. They will absolutely fail.” He (Mr. Yamauchi-San) was right. Just like many other subjects back when he was president of Nintendo. The Nostradamus of the video games industry. He will never be forgotten by the company and gamers.

[@parrotv2]

You can buy midrange gaming laptop for 850 euros, xbox and PS5 are 450-500, but with gaming laptop you get a PC, everything you need

[@juzkful]

There is no ps5 for 250 dollars so combined with a gamepass, series s is an unbeatable offer….let sony sell the 600 dollar thingy while half the world is in financial crisis and then lets see….

[@shadespark4363]

Pfft i saw this uploaded 38 seconds ago

[@TheKingUpNorth]

A first comment. Wow. What an accomplishment I've made.

[@Jupa]

Horay

[@samuelanokye9073]

The real accomplishment is seeing a first commenter say more than one word. Good on you.

[@nicolasmatos6321]

If (somehow) made every backwards compartiable og xbox/xbox 360/maybe even xbox one playable on Windows i wouldnt mind them if they just stop making xboxes

[@Brandon-kt1qh]

Microsoft is terrified that Steam is going to release a steam-deck OS that you can duel boot on your computer “to get more power out of your PC.” If steam releases a gaming OS and adds apps like KZbin, gmail, twitch, Amazon store, etc, it’d be a serious competitor for Window’s dominance.

[@Roxor128]

A standalone release of SteamOS is really the last missing piece needed for a transition from "console as platform" to "console as form-factor". Once that happens, any idiot capable of assembling some off-the-shelf PC hardware can make a console that'll run most games ever made.

[@burrybondz225]

looooool. Games are built specifically with windows in mind. steam is emulating to get their games to run on linux. It cannot outperform windows (there is no getting more power out of your pc). That is also without taking gamepass and cloud gaming into account which makes windows waay beyond valve's "competitive" value proposition. No need to mention as someone who turned an old laptop into a linux laptop, that dual booting is not something ppl prefer. No one likes to second guess their system.

[@burrybondz225]

@@Roxor128 steam deck itself will probably run into problems if a handheld withboth "windows on arm" + gamepass comes out in the next decade. I think it will be harder to convince developers to make native ports but microsotft owns a HUGE library of games that will make any portable a big seller. Developers would be forced to make ports at that point. This is the problem with a monopoly, There is no real competition.

[@burrybondz225]

Of course it is more likely that microsoft will do nothing of this sort but the problem is if valve tries something they can threaten their entire hardware's existence.

[@Roxor128]

@@burrybondz225 Steam's Proton is just a fork of WINE and WINE is not an emulator. Emulators replicate hardware functionality in software. WINE is only concerned with the software environment and just provides Windows programs with the API calls they expect, then implements those using the Linux equivalents. The actual instructions still run directly on the hardware. Ergo, it's not an emulator. Performance hits are minimal, as most of what a given program does is not going to involve making system calls.

[@MinoltaCamera]

7:40 NOOOOO!!!! Because in PlayStation you need to buy each game for $80, and in Xbox you have all the games day one on Game Pass!

[@JmKrokY]

I dislike Xbox, but without them Playstation will start becoming worse and worse since they would have no competition. We can already see them doing this this whole generation already and it's just gonna get worse.

[@jonsteen8344]

Amazing advert plug, one of the best ive seen 👏

[@andrewjazdzyk1215]

Yes but if they made a handheld with the capacity to load steam games it would be lit as hell

[@OkieDokieSmokie]

The new console will just be a small form factor Win11 PC, with the xbox app preloaded and a skin over the UI. Mark my words.

[@B_Machine]

I cant remember the last time I was blindsided by the sponsor transition. I didn't see it coming. Well done!

[@Vulture1738]

they put 8K on the series x ads yet devs still throttle for series s support

[@juststuffwithwolfe4482]

I do like my Xbox and I was finally able to get one second hand and i didn’t know the new one isn’t that far away if you really think about it but sometimes i regret getting it because how stuff like that is dying out and i can’t make up my mind on the whole deal

[@sweetfeathery]

I think their next "console" will be a separate external graphics card in a console-like box that plugs into a Windows device that can turn any basic device into a gaming powerhouse.

[@ivoza]

You’ve made like 5 videos saying the exact same thing bro

[@MichaelChin1994]

Xbox should have like an open house city hall meeting for devs to just voice what they want

[@WOGDOG10]

They could make a new xbox that has a 'windows light' OS that lets you install steam, GOG, Epic Games etc but has a controller freindly UI, thier windows 8/windows phone-est live tiles would work great there. You should also be able to just straight up install windows 11, linux, openBSD or whatever too. I'd buy one as a budget gaming machine.