Destiny arguing with Nate's mom - Starcraft 2

[@JeremyJenner]

I came here expecting this to be Destiny arguing with his baby mama lol

[@Jhnih]

Steven: 1 Nate's mom: 1 Nate: 0

[@stabsargent]

destiny is like doing group therapy for this family LOL

[@LetsKuja]

This was literally the most interesting discussion and to be honest, the most calm discussion, I've heard in a while. Very interesting and fun to hear/watch.

[@whitemotheroffour9837]

I LOVE STEVEN. he just causes everybody to babble and stumble over their words everytime he throws another argument out. i love it

[@stayniftyGuyFaceMannPersonDude]

Nacho Thebird Fortunately it's the end result of having a logical argument, and totally changing someones point of view.

[@Jrez]

This woman seems pretty cool. Says herself she's not a prude and basically agrees with everything.

[@2ExtremeReviews]

funny thing that Destinys son is called Nathan

[@ashikmahmud9131]

2ExtremeReviews what's funny about it? 🤔

[@Lackingx]

@@ashikmahmud9131 Someone is not allowed to have the same name as someone else that's crazy and against the rules of nature

[@63Limar]

@@Lackingx no, because it makes it sounds like he is arguing with his ex-wife.

[@Lackingx]

@@63Limar Yeah I know we should banish both Nathan's to a realm where they are assigned a different name

[@63Limar]

@@Lackingx you are taking the idea of "funny" certainly in a wrong way.

[@WellThatsSilly]

8:30 is probably the closest thing to the right answer in this whole discussion, language and appearance shouldn't matter, but it does, so why set yourself up against the odds when you can appear more appealing by controlling yourself?

[@ryana6961]

After looking at Destiny and his attitude when playing games, you'd think that he would be a horrible father, but I think he'll make a great one.

[@nox7974]

without a doubt, hes smart funny and knows/seen most things in this shit 'fucking' world.

[@maul5211]

This comment did not age well

[@briandougherty8800]

@@maul5211 I mean, he's saying there's a correlation between how you act when you're playing video games, and how you are going to raise a child lmao

[@rathcorn]

Maul how?

[@firebreathercat133]

@@rathcorn Destiny left Nathan in nebraska just to go and live in LA. He still provides him with funds and shit ofc but he's basically a deadbeat now.

[@stian6390]

Destiny was born to debate with people, his vocabulary is like eminems rapping only in debating

[@UnverifiedUser]

Wow. Destiny is extremely well spoken. I'm very impressed, the way he conveys his ideas has a great flow to it and it's very easy to understand and follow what he's trying to say.

[@SoldierBear]

I love how Nate tries to get involved in the conversation but gets shut down everytime

[@johnnycash5684]

I thought this was Nathan memes, but it's some other dude. Still good video

[@TheChromaKid]

This was actually really interesting. Came expecting some guy shouting at some angry parent. Left with new opinions :D

[@sagitswag1785]

Destiny - the family councelor

[@TheLincolnWorld]

He made an incredibly smart move at 4:03 when he said he did not know the relationship between the mother and son. He refrained from venturing into territory he did not know. This is mainly why is successful at many arguments. He simply stays in his playing field to allow himself to use the most of his knowledge.

[@Ibnspud]

man I'm 20, at college and my family's military. pretty sure if I told my pops to shut the fuck up I'd set a record for visiting every continent simultaneously.

[@lofwenmark]

Ibnspud WOW YOU ARE SO COOL

[@Ibnspud]

af e HEY THANKS MAN CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL

[@IridescentMagnolia]

Nate's mom is arguing based on feeling rather than logic. Swear words can yes, be offensive, but they definitely make content have a *stronger* meaning through a stronger word. Simple words like "stop" or "shut up" don't mean as much as "shut the fuck up" or "fucking stop". You go, Destiny!

[@IridescentMagnolia]

Dan XD #bashheadagainstarock2016

[@MatteeTheRogue]

I love these videos lol. I love how Destiny can just instantly counter what people say. For me it takes several seconds to come up with something.

[@keybladelol]

Destiny is a god. Who the fuck is Nate?

[@arterialshadow]

No idea who these people are (came up in autoplay), but I don't know why people are giving the guy's mom shit. This seemed to be a very intelligent conversation.

[@MightyForSure]

+Roodoe Well maybe after min 5, when she was "enlightened"..

[@hamletshero]

"You're a nice kid, why don't you come live with us!" - GO DESTINY!

[@TheInquisitorX]

Destinys arguing is BY FAR the best arguin I have ever experienced while looking at the Bnet backdrop. A little more advanced than the regular "you suck".

[@sheerbliss6]

my.. my ears were not ready for 1080p vocals.... this is glory at its finest

[@MusicThrower]

Haha I like the insightful discussions of Destiny. Very sophisticated too, without getting mad or losing it.

[@C22WashingtonIrving]

Did anyone else notice the slight touch of sarcasm on the "Thanks Steven" at the end?

[@LookANinjaPanda]

17:39 "You're a nice kid wanna come live with us?" to Destiny. LOL

[@riktigtdumjaevel]

I would not want to get into an argument with Destiny. He's arguing better then most politicians these days (imo).

[@R4Z0R98]

What kind of people does this guy talk to on skype, like wtf! LOL

[@SaltiiLord]

everytime i watch one of these kinds of videos from destiny i sort of learn something whether it's how to troll someone or argue your point efficiently and calmly....i will apply this once school starts

[@Smoermannen]

Destiny: 1 Nate's Mom: 1 Nate: 0

[@hunghung01]

Steven is really good at presenting an idea ~_~

[@SoFarSoBook]

*clicks on the video expecting troll* *finds out its an intellectual epic conversation* *favorites & triple likes* Thank God we have people like Destiny in this world :´(

[@grandia09]

I think Steven just taught me more about life then anyone else in my family or that matter friends.

[@naes9999]

holy fuck, what is destiny's IQ??? he's a genius...

[@ducttapemaster1408]

Wow, I'm not going to lie: I have NEVER seen a KZbin comment that sounded so respectful and nice with THAT number of curses in it. lol good job :)

[@Sontraid]

Where is that arguing? That is a normal discussion

[@SelfMadeHero04]

You seem to perceive the word "argument" as something negative, as in "fighting verbally", while it can just as much be a constructive talk. Basically, they were arguing about if cursing is appropriate or not and the conclusion was: Yes and no, theres a time and place for everything. So yes, it was an argument, but yes, you can call that a discussion, it falls into both definitions.

[@Sontraid]

SelfMadeHero04 Well my mother language is not english so I might be a bit confused there, but doesnt argue mean something like squarrel?

[@SelfMadeHero04]

Sontraid My mother tongue isnt english either, but I learned english in an international school, taught by native speakers in detail. I also learned a lot online :P To your question, an argument is a statement, used as reasoning for another statement, thus 2 ppl arguing is literally a discussion. You could, for example be arguing about wether the death penalty is morally acceptable or not, bringing arguments such as, yes in some circumstances, if the accused has also taken a life (making the death penalty a trade, basically), or no, because a human life has indefinite value, and thus no sin could ever judge the death penalty. You would be having a discussion, but you can have it constructively and without a verbal fight.

[@Sontraid]

SelfMadeHero04 Thank you :)

[@jn319]

I love Destiny. Give this guy a day time talk show.

[@isuckatstarcraft96]

Y-ya know, d-don't... say... sweahs. I think the guy's going to be a pretty good parent.

[@Holygiant]

Is that Jerma reference really this old? holy moly

[@InzaneMode]

Steven is a master at argueing

[@dylangibson6349]

I'm a bit late to the party here, but anti-bullying campaigns in schools do fuck all. As a victim of bullying I speak from experience when I say it has never made a difference ever.

[@lightsbacon]

huge fallacy, u cannot base every1s experience upon ur own. unless u suggest all bully victims submit to a hive mind

[@XarcZai]

Full respect for Steven always.

[@benjamincooper1947]

Destiny is so awesome :)

[@Scardor]

Guy says 'like, you know' three times per point he's trying to present.

[@DoggyP00]

Seems like saying "what's up dude" to elders has become a lot more appropriate these days.

[@aidsit]

"as someone who's been through the educational system" sounded almost like an unintentional offensive remark towards the mother hehe

[@gatsby5555]

His audience is SC2 fans being addressed on a stream which is casual in nature and primarly for entertainment, so in that sense he knows his audience in a similar way in which a comedian knows his audience on an HBO special. At professional events, it is understood that at an event or venue such as a broadcasted tournament, a certain level of professionalism must be maintained. (partly due to sponsorship) So you can know your audience without specificly knowing who might be offended

[@dkabrt1]

@THESJS lol thats why the video is "Destiny arguing" not "Destiny PvZ" the best you could hope for was a so-so game with an argument going on in the background, which would be the focus. I personally enjoyed the video.

[@jangb98]

I like how the game was 18 minutes and the video was 18 minutes.

[@terakahn]

And usually has adverse effects in the long term and ends up with even bigger problems than you've had beforehand. it's like your TV flickering, and you smashing the side of it in hopes it'll just work properly afterwards.

[@arondj]

Watch his stream everytime he's on, for months. And this is probably the smartest dude I've ever knew, in all aspects.

[@PeterUstinox]

look at the video length then game length then who won the game and then the opponent's name. starcraft is the perfect metaphora for this conversation.

[@Marblez3]

"Use your English language" *3 minutes later* "The differ... the differensh... the differenation. Is that the right word?" Fucking LOL!

[@TigerClaws]

The game is about 12mins irl because of the 'faster' game speed setting.

[@Scardor]

'Just, like, awkward, like, you know, I don't know' Damn, son.

[@jukeboxwizard]

I think Steve has finally found his calling in life, a family counsellor.

[@Fluffyfier]

I have no idea what I just watched but I do not regret it.

[@RoageXD]

He is doing a bit of both in my opinion his points are very valid and what he is doing is to getting them to think properly BUT he is also doing an idea push on them which is also a high form of troll and hypnotism.

[@JamieGajer]

Rofl I have never seen anybody debate as well as destiny. Never slips up at any point in conveying his message. Hes awesome

[@Moskeeto]

Debates are a type of argument but in a formal manner. Arguments are not necessarily done in anger. A quarrel, however, is more specifically an argument done in anger.

[@TigerClaws]

I love hos he wrote the description in 3rd and 1st person perspective. xD

[@WoodenduckGaming]

I loved destiny as hes so direct and his language is on par. NOW I love him that little bit more.

[@elationtheory]

to build on your point. i will not speak about the reasons for not moving out for the rest. but here in singapore it's mainly economical. children simply cannot move out of their parents house because of the cost of living. a 1.8k square ft apartment just sold for SGD$1.1mil in feb. that's about USD$800k. and the bank takes it back in 99 years. so most young adults hold off moving out for as long as possible because they don't want to be stuck with half a lifetime of debt when they're 21.

[@benkao2008]

WOW guys. turn on Transcribe Audio. Destiny is the ONLY guy out there that can speak perfectly and the transcribe words came out 90% correct. Destiny is a BOSS.

[@godisblah]

this needed an after commentary from Steven.

[@RuneKatashima]

This doesn't sound like arguing or trolling. This sounds like a debate.

[@ZedsDeadXO]

It's simple: it's relative. Relatively to the situation, judge by yourself if cursing is appropriate or not.

[@sgzobama]

It's nathanias lol. His mom calls him it at 9:44 lol

[@davidmcwilliams123]

His voice doesn't sound like Nathanias's voice at all.

[@sgzobama]

he says himself its nathanias in the call. and it sure does lol. listen to the whole thing, it s hilarious.

[@Dakykun]

It sounds like she says "You do Nathaniel, it's totally disrespectful" to me

[@ajefferson26]

This is why i love destiny......always something entertaining going on his channel

[@ViralSC2]

@sciences8 I know but I mean.. anybody that's seen Destiny's stream for more than 30 minutes where he's talking should recognise that.

[@divine0g0d]

omg u should do more of this, i find this very fascinating xD

[@lolzaloud]

This is more of a conversation than an argument tbh :)

[@naduongruto]

I hope kids like Nate learned how to appropiately address anyone with specific language use and just in general. Since Nate said "thanks" to Steven, that must have meant that he felt appreciated that Steven pointed out his flaws and disrespect toward his parents and will reconsider his use of words to express himself.

[@Kebren9]

I liked and favorited this video when Destiny mentioned the school issue (avoiding and not teaching) it is so cool that someone like Destiny can leave this message on a lot of young ppl like me :)

[@tacoshitter]

There will come a time when they are equals, (if not already) but even then, a healthy relationship with your parents is important, and if they don't like being sworn at or disrespected, then that should be more than enough reason not to. To a parent, there role in your life doesn't end when you leave home nor should it. If you want to know why such a thing is important I can explain it to you, though frankly it would be sad if I had to.

[@Tookyerjob]

This is exactly why I watch everything destiny puts up. Regardless of SC2 skills, there's no player smarter or more articulate then this guy. Just a lot of fun listening to him talk to anyone

[@TheKwangBang]

i think 90% of the world is with you there bro

[@MrChannelReview]

Steven Bonnell = Best life coach ever

[@UnionRags17]

I enjoy watching Destiny play and respected him as a player, I am starting to like him a lot mroe as a person because, it seems, he thinks thing through in real life situations while trying to make it as clsoe to ideal as possible.

[@terakahn]

He's extremely intelligent. You'd never know it listening to him stream most of the time.

[@SuperStreamlineTV]

I mean to say 'gay' can be used to refer to anything that is undesirable to someone, or that you may not like.

[@hoburame]

I find Steven Bonnell increadibly inteligent based upon he's way of talking and he's way of thinking about it.

[@HorsesArePeople2]

Thanks, Steven. I have a persuasive essay on school uniforms in a couple days.

[@jonathanbelardo]

This isn't "Destiny arguing with Nate's mom - Starcraft 2" This is "Destiny schooling Nate and his mom - Starcraft 2"

[@KPG999]

@wombats If a speaker is trying to say fuck 1+1 = 2 and the listener replies with "what did you just say?" then it's the listeners fault for not understanding the message.

[@DarkMoon309]

" Walking into ur principle and say dude WTF i totally fail the test " my favourite quote. Destiny is so freaking smart

[@geraldnathaniel]

LoL the fact that this is tagged with 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 4v4, loving it.

[@RageOfAThousandSuns]

You sir are a God of the interwebs!

[@ricehasnolife]

I love the description to this video. "No idea why this happened." XD

[@LtotheIQUID]

this is more of an debate then an argument.

[@Mazzeroth]

You made very valid points Destiny. I believe I understand and respect you a little more after hearing this.

[@lionelchu]

the mom actually seem like a really cool mom

[@Tinkus95]

The love at the end of the call, beautiful.

[@ViralSC2]

To summarise these 18 minutes. "Know your audience."

[@Sstteevveerrzz]

Has anyone ever noticed the video is the same length as the game time in the menu?

[@factorx90]

Destiny could talk his way out of murder, and pin it on the judge and get away with it. The man can make a point

[@Fayn7]

Does anyone find it odd that the match destiny had went for the exact amount of time this video went for?

[@freakness]

Destiny you just made my day

[@DirkStarlight]

Destiny sounds like he could run a radio talk show.

[@aquaajb]

this is so poetic that I almost can't believe it's real