Renault Megane RS 280 Cup vs Hyundai i30N track battle | Autocar

[@marmlad]

shame on you, not picking i30n performance version...

[@danisantos3255]

Whatever, either way, the megane would win

[@santclause1]

I30n performance. will go against Trophy and still lose. then Trophy R will dismantle the Type R.

[@Cooleo465]

I agree. The Megane RS is more expensive than the i30N performance so yes it’s not the best comparison.

[@ConstantineJoseph]

The Megane RS will have a new Trophy version coming up soon. I'm waiting for that one

[@moegigo]

it was not available.

[@mazfosters186]

Can someone explain to me why they did not get the i30n performance instead? And on top of that, they compared it to the top of the line megane RS. I am sorry but this is not a comparison worth taking note of.

[@danielzink2587]

Top of the line megane RS? This is the standart version of the megane with manuel gearbox and the cup chasis. The Trophy version and the Trophy-R Version are yet to come, which are the "top of the line megane rs"

[@mazfosters186]

@@danielzink2587 top of the line for the moment is what I meant. It's like saying in 12-18 months we will see a 4wheel drive i30...

[@danisantos3255]

Maz fosters the trophy is the i30n performance. The “cup” megane has no more power than the standard megane unlike the i30n. Standard tires, etc...

[@ikarugaxx3749]

I think that was because with the versions they actually tried the point they wanted to make (that the Megane may come out on top of the i30Ns whichever version the latter are, but they have become less of a pure driver's car than they used to be and the i30Ns are, thus the i30Ns are a slightly better choice if focus is on driving pleasure rather than lap times or 0-100 drag races) would be carried over even more clearly. This is a great test indeed, because it also highlights you don't need to pay for the Performance pack in the Hyundai if you don't want to pursue best lap times and the likes of them.

[@biffon69]

@Land Dry explain this comment

[@stuartmiddleton3463]

Bit of a non test then really isn't it if you've not even got a competitive rival? Did Renault sponsor this?

[@Middle-of-nowhere]

Stuart Middleton Agreed it was sponsored The is not the top model of the i30 N How can this be competetive Unreasonable

[@DILINGER0]

The same when in other test, they compare the Megane RS EDC without Cup specs against the i30N Performance, Type-R, Cupra.....

[@leroy7647]

And had they performed that test with the same driver, on the same circuit as this one, we could have drawn some actual conclusions.

[@lyre8728]

this is neither the "performance version" for the megane, Trophy is... And this is probably not the "ultimate" version they will do, wait for a trophy-R ...

[@MiraSubieGirl]

Renault owner here pissed off... (2012 megane rs) I wanted to genuinely see lap times etc -_- What a waste.

[@ghepardogts]

Why bring the base model i30n? Does anyone even buy that instead of the performance version?

[@Middle-of-nowhere]

Ghepardo GTS I don’t know what’s the point of this video??? The is base model How can this be a fair comparison

[@MyRealName]

No, Hyundai built thousands of base Ns that they know they can't sell. Genius.

[@anastassiosgotoglou5143]

Its only the Base Renault Model the trophy Comes..

[@kerrwharrie4385]

The base Renault would be the standard 280 without the Cup Chasis pack, if they wanted this to be fair they'd either have brought a performance N or a base 280 without the Cup Chasis. This is just a completely biased test in favour of one car.

[@danisantos3255]

Kerr Wharrie the megane would win either way

[@EliasS48]

So you go for the cup version of the megane and not for the Performance i30, pointless video, not even watch it.

[@sarmadghori2704]

Try the Performance, but then against the trophy please ;)

[@kona328WH]

Come on lads, who the **** would get the standard i30n. Wasted video and thumbs down.

[@DanLMH]

They couldn't get an i30N performance in for test.

[@MyRealName]

Are you saying Hyundai build thousands of standard Ns that they know they can't sell? Do you even think?

[@kona328WH]

@@MyRealName they're in the minority. Isn't that obvious. Jeez.

[@kona328WH]

@@DanLMH understandable. But they should have just waited until one was available.

[@DanLMH]

When you've booked (& paid for) exclusive use of the track for a day, and also booked the other cars to be available that day & paid for their fuel/insurance, you can't not make content. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@VaunShiz]

Imagine a larger track, the Megan just has had years and years of refining it's performance

[@keunsoo2000]

I wanna see BMW M3 vs Audi A4 2.0 diesel

[@Ivzu]

Track battle between normal cars would be nice. For example Focus vs Astra vs Golf vs i30 with evenly matched engines.

[@kingkalitzchen350]

so the car with 30 horses more and an LSD is quicker on track, mind blown...

[@user-ww7wz2gs4s]

so we have the right to compare the Golf R 310 HP against the Megane RS 280 HP, 30 HP more! but not the Hyunday i30N with the Mégane !!

[@edwinjoseph2163]

salty af

[@alinturbut]

First disliked video on KZbin. In your shoes, I would remove this video and do the battle again with the performance version

[@swanblake]

Who is thumbing this up? Renault PR? Awful comparison. LSD vs no LSD on a track . Gee I wounder how this will turn out....

[@RennieAsh]

Thanks for testing a slightly less optioned car! I think it would actually be a better daily driver for a lot of people. Everyone loves comparing track times, but it's really a non issue on the road - handling, fun and comfort when not "racing" are important factors to consider. I'd probably get the LSD but with the smaller wheels depending on how harsh the ride is. In my area things like a Mazda mx5 would do great on the less than perfect roads

[@todlu]

I find using the base i30n a bit disturbing although you were quite fair to mention the inbalance few times

[@E92jenks]

The I30N Performance should have been used as a fair comparison.... Looked forward to seeing the test but this is one sided.

[@koengixxer]

I like the megane rs the most.. Looks the best of all hot hatches. Both great cars tho!

[@TosinSalisu]

Why can't people enjoy this video for what is? I know the cars might not be evenly matched but the content presented here is quality!

[@joshualcoy]

If the cars aren't match, where is the quality?

[@thorsautor4353]

Because in this case they could have tested the N vs. the Megane GT. And surprise: The N would have been quicker. Comparing makes only sense with matching cars

[@RennieAsh]

I think it's a great comparison. Plenty of top of the line comparisons out there already, what if someone is considering a slightly less optioned car? They'd love this test

[@radimarazim514]

N vs RS sport , N performance vs RS cup. Megane gt vs Kia gt ;)

[@minchang4057]

Good to see even the standard i30n better the Megane Cup in lap time but fun-wise.

[@LordKingPotato]

I must admit, never been a massive fan of Megane's but this one is probably the best looking hot hatch in a long time! i30 is a great car, shame it wasn't the N version would of been intresting to see them battle.

[@schumifan78]

Why would you bother testing the base i30N? No one will even buy it.

[@victorvelozleon8739]

not a fair comparison, and the guy in the i30n is dead on the inside.

[@swanblake]

Bahaha so true!

[@the-boring-car-guy]

Bugatti Chiron vs a mountain bike next

[@sumotherdude]

Wow so much hate for an entertaining 8 minutes watching two good drivers rag the shit out of a couple of pretty rad press cars, while also educating us on both of them and having a good time. And all for free.

[@themarenda]

Why the cup, but not the performance?

[@sbomorse]

So Hyundai sell an i30N Performance, whixh has the same amount of power and same type of mechanical diff to match the Megane, yet you chose the standard i30N which is cheaper, less powerful and without the diff a lot less capable. Not to mention the majority of sales of the i30N are of the Performance model. Stupid test.

[@pancho8334]

Mmmm so, what was the point here? The result is pretty clear... why not try the 275 I30N vs the Trophy?

[@ZappsMusic]

Megane RS 280 Cup? Or Hyundia i30N non-performace package? That is the most rhetorical question ever. Why would you even make a video on that? Missed opportunity.

[@BrunoSantos-jw3er]

How much Renault payed you guys?

[@markc9274]

Just buy a Type R, Golf R or a Cupra R if you want decent performance and an all round package!

[@stopspin]

I support the later response, how much did Renault pay you guys to make Hyundai look bad? East vs European, actually part European. It may have heaps of Nissan parts in it due to the "Reno" Nissan partnership. Japan and France vs Korea. The top spec hyundai model with lsd and other added bits would have smoked that Reno.

[@moogleFTWsXLoverX]

don't you get bespoke pilot sports on the performance pack for the i30n? this feels like major sandbagging

[@moogleFTWsXLoverX]

so is it just the N veloster that gets the bespoke tires?

[@moogleFTWsXLoverX]

I'm sorry they're bespoke pirelle's not pilot sports

[@bajerle]

Guys you can get the cup megane much cheaper than i30n performance. And it’s almost the same price as the i30n base model.

[@ChrisMisMYhandle]

All the hate for not havibg the performance version of the i30N. Yes it would have been better to have the performance versionbut there may not have been one available. Or maybe they were supplied with the wrong press car, or it could be one of their long-termers. They were very honest about it in the video, and Matt was still having a blast, a good advert for the standard i30n I would say

[@nkululekoduma2281]

Then the comparison should have not been done until the model with similar spec from Hyundai becomes available, or they could have asked Renault for megane RS model matching the same Power output as the base model of the i30N, no justification to this at all besides a review that is paid for or sponsored. I'm a fan of the Megane RS and I also love the i30N which I believe will have one over the Megane had it been the i30N performance model.

[@swanblake]

You either own a Renault or work for Renault. Which one?

[@ChrisMisMYhandle]

@@swanblake I own a 265 trophy but out of these cars I would probably take the i30n performance. I Just think all the hate on autocar is unjustified. The i30n still gets a great review and they adress the fact that it is the standard version several times.

[@markc9274]

Blake Swan these two are obsessed with Renault most specially the Megane RS when in reality the old RS and latest ones get destroyed by the Type Rs FK2 and FK8.....they just wont admit it 😂

[@timjrvine]

it held up pretty well considering

[@fastbikesandtoomuchcoffee6871]

It could have been a good video if you would have put the I30n performance in it....

[@ggg2862]

A bit unfair comparison isnt it? I would go for the i30N nonetheless.

[@danieldidac3487]

top renault vs NON top Hyundai.... Great job!

[@RRR_Motorsports]

Why on earth you not comparing the performance with the Megane? Not a fair review Bye

[@vMaxHeadroom]

As a 280 Cup owner, this test was a bit lopsided and unfair as the full fat i30n Performance would have been far better suited to taking on the Megane.. Think both cars are great and sadly the era of the ICE hot hatches is on the way out but with the Megane RS, i30n, Type R, 308 GTI it is a great swan song...

[@bimbeano]

Why not test the standard Megane RS then ?

[@gixxerboy555]

The base i30N isn't sold anywhere around my country..it's all about the real deal...the Performance version..and this isn't a comparison..they should do it over again with the i30N Performance...25hp more,the LSD (Limited Slip Differential) and bigger brakes ...Faster trough corners ,faster in straight lineand less breaking-fade, so...I just ordered that version.. :)

[@sonarcreep3691]

Could you put the i30 up against mk1 mazda 3 mps please?

[@Reddot_AUTO]

Without Performance package N car means no more N performance! Cause there is no N corner cabin differential. It’s miss match.

[@kgmfer]

It's really not fair that you didn't use Hyundai i30N performance pack edition

[@jurassicmatt2796]

Track ready car beats road car. Journalism at its best.

[@ivandoe33]

In my country i30N Performance is being sold for 32000 euros. Way cheaper than any other class hot hatch. But I doubt they will sell even one.

[@empyrionin]

In mine the Megane RS is sold for 30k, way cheaper than anything else except the i30N which is 29.995. they're basically the same price if you live in a civilized nation

[@jeremyhill3837]

Yeah shame it wasn’t a Performance, but look at the positives - the internet is full of reviews of them so this gives you a look at the model a step down. Good insightful video as usual by Autocar 👍🏻

[@SONATA862]

That's really not fair! Comparing a cup one to a base i30N

[@suspensiondude]

Drove both,but the performance variant of the N,and bought the N!

[@StephenButlerOne]

I really prefer the Hyundai. Though I seen a RS in France in the summer and it defo looks better as a poster. The Hyundai is alot more normal car looking. Much like the early type R, wasn't bonkers looking.

[@danmc17]

I've used those Bridgestones on a Megane before and really didn't rate them. I was surprised when I saw them launched with these fitted.

[@Philbyyyy]

Why bother comparing if you aren't using the N performance

[@mickwrinkles2318]

Not as much difference in lap times as you'd think. Which goes to show the performance version of the Hyundai is a really strong contender.

[@DavidLyon]

It's nice to see the Renault actually beat something.

[@thorsautor4353]

Makes absolutely no sense to test the 250 hp N vs. the Megane. Why not tested the Performance?

[@drsnowmon]

I had to watch it again to confirm I heard it right This whole video was kind of pointless wasn't it? And the last part when the "Megane driver was boasting and i30 N driver was admitting defeat" was rather comical You guys are bad actors lmao

[@alexandrefernandes9233]

Yes... big fail going to the track without the performance version of the Hyundai. This was an unfair match. But any away it was good to know the difference between a more focus track car and a normal one, for your money.

[@kevinprince89]

Autocar, you guys had a great chance of making a gem of a video here. Most other channels have been comparing the Civic Type R with the Megane RS, which is also an unfair comparison given the Honda's power advantage. You did mention a fair number of times the power disadvantage of the i30N in this case, but that hardly makes it a worthy track battle as a result. Even the conclusion you guys came to was vague.

[@WeirdBrick]

The civic vs megane is completely fair as they're currently the company's top models in this segment whilst as you point out the i30 is not!

[@kevinprince89]

Mate, the Civic Type R has got about 320 bhp. The Megane RS for now has got about 275 bhp. An i30N has the same amount of power in its Performance Pack guise along with a slippy diff. So that's my point.... The Hyundai and Renault both have about 275 bhp and both have slippy diffs. Makes for a perfect battle

[@markc9274]

GazRwood Civic Type R FK2 or FK8 the latest model destroys the Megane and the Trophy version won’t stand a chance either. They do right comparing the Megane with the likes of the Hyundai, Golf GTI or an ST.

[@pereldh5741]

Which one is Ben Affleck of cartesters?

[@f00lxpl]

At least you should have used Megan without cup suspension

[@sheldongannon4024]

Pls do rs vs 308gti 270

[@ObsessedN]

What was the point in this test? At least make it fair!

[@meganers96]

The Megane looks so much better

[@bighes100]

I really like the look of the new Megane too, looks fresh were others are looking the same. Gotta admire em for that.

[@simonbirkbeck2856]

as almost everyone has said, waste of time video - take the highest spec megane and the lowest spec i30n. what's the point?

[@Saavvvv]

Interesting to see the non performance version of the N go round the track but surely makes for a slightly pointless comparison.

[@dominic6860]

Very disappointed that you chose to go ahead with test even though Hyundai only delivered the base i30n. Look forward to rematch with performance version.

[@chawenhalo0089]

Old vs new Mégane RS please.

[@kubek555]

don't quite understand the point of comparing basic car without LSD with a crazy machine steering with rear wheels and fitted with LSD

[@esaipien]

Never heard of that version of i30n , it may be just for sale in England

[@MrCallaghj]

What was the point of this comparison? Shocking

[@jorgesp4911]

I now that the i30n its not the peeformance but megane with 4 control i30n dont has to do anything in circuit. And if people want i30n performance we has to get the megane rs trophy r too

[@mercedakiask4359]

What a stupid comparison!!! Next time compare the RS3 against the Polo Gti... 😂😂😂

[@MrLoose26]

agreed polo would kill the baby audi

[@n_a_c_e_r]

You are very stupid.

[@swanblake]

They would have most likely used the base Polo actually

[@BuhaiGras]

I take the Megane anyday the way it looks blows a lot of cars out, I didn't bought the magazine this year, but I bought the Romanian equivalent.

[@petercavellini3232]

I’d have the Renault because it looks better, the Hyundai is a bit bland to look at.

[@Adrianperformancequattro]

Next please battle old vs new like lancer evo 9 vs audi s3 or golf r

[@swanblake]

They will use a base VW Golf vs the Audi RS3

[@enfantterrible4868]

That's a great idea. Evo IX FQ360 vs RS3

[@dominoxzz]

Should have been the I30N performance version to be an equal match. But considering the regular i30n can give the top specced Renault Megane a taste of it's own medicine on their first try, tells me more about how bad Renault is or how bad they have gotten.

[@g00dfeeling]

That Renault is beautiful!

[@shinobeman123]

Forget the fact they dint have a fair comparison This guy in the i30 dint give you anything about the car at all

[@staceyhitchins7865]

Track battle in the non Performance i30n 🤦‍♀️

[@skrnicks1896]

*Renault Megane* 😍😍

[@r129r16pfl]

Thumps up for the Onitsuka Tiger Mexico 66

[@Evo1122]

Not fair for the hyundai. Bring on the civic type r and focus rs

[@Mattihacker]

Let's just turn it around. The perfomance version of the i30n would've just roasted the megane. Even the standardversion was close to the megane.. Btw. the i30n looks better, sounds better and is cheaper, so clearly the winner overall.

[@alvinxsingh]

Freaking love the track battles! Put a V6 Camaro 1lE against a Nissan 370Z Nismo! I know you would have to do in the states. I'd go to Leguna Seca.

[@RiccardoTheBeAst]

No offence, but the Megane was top tier, while the i30 was missing 25PS, LSD and 19 inch wheels...

[@donaldkack3159]

Performance Version will destroy it.

[@HesteBremse]

Good Video! Enjoyed to watch it - though would have been nice to see the i30N with the better performance pieces on it.

[@Guvb235]

What I take from this is how good of an effort Hyundai has made on their first attempt at a true hot hatch - the Megane should be better considering how many great hot hatches Renault has made before, yet it isn't. Good work Hyundai.

[@TheAussieRod]

Guys, in race competition that standard i30 standard is unfair.

[@vofking]

Doesn't make any sense to me to compare it with standard i30N with nothing and less power. Only performance package.

[@andrewmitchell2313]

Pointless battle... and a nerdfest

[@iandroid7]

Regardless of 30n performance, the winner in excitement way & drive joy will be megane 3rs :)

[@v_alexiadis]

Didn't anyone think before shooting the video that not having the 275 hp i30 would make this completely pointless? I don't get it. So stupid.

[@elaxel1469]

I want the RS cup with the i30N interior! The giant tablet of the megane is super stupid

[@Fiamma555]

I love this megane--is wonderfull

[@moono1]

Matt prior.....mr...”yes ummmm I think it has errrrrr aroundddd twooo eighty bhp!” You know what it has stop acting casual and cool and just say what it has! Winds me up!

[@d33pNacho]

Nobody buys the non-performance over the GOOD version of the i30N which is way faster (+25hp,LSD). This review makes no sense, I thought you'd be comparing the Megane with the equivalent i30N

[@tersy9862]

What a stupid review! I think that's the first thumbs down ive given. Why would not compare apples with apples?

[@DUFFY_33]

I do prefer the Megane III 2.0L engine..

[@paulditrap2858]

All it proves is a boosted up Renault is only just better then the lower version i30n

[@shaunsimpson3499]

What a unfair comparison. Why not the performance or the non cup.