The Most Controversial Movie Ever Made Got Its Director Murdered

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@sizzis2045
@sizzis2045 10 ай бұрын
There are actually a number of theories surrounding the murder of Pier Paolo Pasolini and the real motives behind it, here in Italy. I think a more plausible one has to do with "Petrolio", a novel which Pasolini was in the middle of writing at the time, and which was never completed due to his death, in addition to having many pages of the original manuscript reported missing. The novel was intended to deal with the theme of Italy's major petroleum company, ENI, at the time shaken by various mysterious events (to name one: the then-president of the company, Enrico Mattei, dying in an airplane incident which lots of people now believe to have been an assassination), and probably he started poking into matters that bothered someone.
@ukmenon13
@ukmenon13 10 ай бұрын
Yup, infact!.👌 There’s also this book titled L’Italia nel Petrolio. Mattei, Cefis, Pasolini, e il sogno infranto dell’indipendenza energetica”.
@sizzis2045
@sizzis2045 10 ай бұрын
@@ukmenon13 Also on the same topic, I may also bring up (for the non-Italian audience, since it is a well known work in Italy) "Questo è Cefis: L'altra faccia dell'onorato presidente" ("This is Cefis: The other face of the honorable president"), written under pseudonym by one Giorgio Steimetz. It is a tell-all biography on Eugenio Cefis, the president of ENI that succeeded Mattei, in which he was denounced of involvement in various backroom dealings, not to mention connections to Mattei's death. Cefis, it later turned out, was also a member of the infamous P2 masonic lodge. The book was published in 1972 and pulled off the shelves and national libraries almost immediately, becoming for a long time almost impossible to find (nowadays the book is freely available for purchase anywhere, though). Pasolini evidently managed to get ahold of a copy of it, which is why some parts of the book are also paraphrased if not quoted directly within the pages of "Petrolio".
@Dissenter
@Dissenter 10 ай бұрын
This film connects the Dutroux Affair with Operation Gladio. Dutroux involved a political pedo ring like Epstein's, but much worse. And Gladio involved the US government funding and using fascist cells for false flag terror attacks (mass shooters, bombings) in European countries like Italy. The US-funded terrorists, and Italian government officials admit in a documentary called "Gladio" (British Broadcasting Corporation) that they attacked civilians so they would trade their freedoms for more security, leading to a fascist police state. The fascists in the movie are based on some of the real ones involved in Gladio, who were also involved in the Dutroux affair.
@AngelaRodhas
@AngelaRodhas 10 ай бұрын
@@sizzis2045 Never heard of the story. Thank you for bring it up. Very interesting.
@masakatsuluv4593
@masakatsuluv4593 10 ай бұрын
Ever heard of Operation Gladio? Italians are probably more aware than MOST Westerners
@coyoteartist
@coyoteartist 10 ай бұрын
it is no surprise I think that this is the man who would have been able to create one of the most beautiful depictions of Christ. He didn't have to believe to understand it. He depicted Christ in the very manner in which Christ taught, as a story. 2000 years of stories given their agency and importance as the everyday reality of many of the simple people which he cherished.
@thevoid99
@thevoid99 9 ай бұрын
i have seen "salo" nearly a decade ago and.... i haven't seen it since as once was enough yet i'm glad i saw it and i still have my criterion dvd copy.
@letranger5
@letranger5 8 ай бұрын
No, Pier Paolo was killed not because of the film.
@zachharris3040
@zachharris3040 10 ай бұрын
Wasn't he a weirdo who liked kids?
@WishAAAProductions
@WishAAAProductions 10 ай бұрын
Casting Willem Dafoe as him was just perfection
@zephyer-gp1ju
@zephyer-gp1ju 8 ай бұрын
Thank You! I knew him but, couldn't think of his name.
@migangelmart
@migangelmart 7 ай бұрын
I want to see Willem Dafoe play Klaus Kinski before it's too late.
@realtv1494
@realtv1494 7 ай бұрын
What movie is that in the beginning with William dafoe
@richiewilliams39155
@richiewilliams39155 7 ай бұрын
@@realtv1494 Pasolini
@atodamadre3197
@atodamadre3197 7 ай бұрын
​@@zephyer-gp1juthe narrator literally mentioned his name in the video
@duetforherbivores
@duetforherbivores 10 ай бұрын
Another film that has its director killed was the box-office hit, The Gentle Art of Japanese Extortion. The director Juzo Itami was held at gunpoint and made to fake a s*icide letter and then to jump to his death because he had embarrassed the Yakuza in his film. It was years until the murderers confessed, though very few people believed Itami ended his life because of an alleged affair, which already aroused a lot of suspicion. I'd like to see an analysis of that movie knowing what we know now.
@adurpandya2742
@adurpandya2742 10 ай бұрын
Interesting
@LA-dm6kj
@LA-dm6kj 10 ай бұрын
Breaks my heart, i never knew this. He is one of my favorite directors with the funeral, taxing woman and tampopo
@choosecarefully408
@choosecarefully408 10 ай бұрын
Amazing what savages other cultures produce, eh? Americans on the other hand witnessed Creepy Uncle Joe molest under-aged girls live at a White House media event. & like all the Most Civilized People of the world, ducked back up their denials then elected him president. You can't kill someone for pointing out a corruption you deny exists, eh?
@YudaHnK
@YudaHnK 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for mentioning Minbo: the Gentle Art of Japanese Extortion. I just saw it and I'd have to say never have I seen an entertaining comedy be so impactful. The spotlight Juzo Itami brought on the yakuza helped change their society. Reflecting on Salo, brings Epstein to mind. And it seems nothing changed after he suicided himself, nothing of import anyhow.
@Sos_tenuto
@Sos_tenuto 10 ай бұрын
This is just a reminder that the "held at gunpoint" confession was someone's account responding to a journalist's interview and not anything official. Juzo's official cause of death is still suicide.
@SavedAndConfused
@SavedAndConfused 10 ай бұрын
Personally i always thought the point of Salo was to turn it off. No joke, i think by the end the film argues that by sitting back and passively witnessing the events we are participating in the heinous acts
@chrisdawson1776
@chrisdawson1776 9 ай бұрын
You probably voted for Trump
@SavedAndConfused
@SavedAndConfused 9 ай бұрын
@@chrisdawson1776 why would you assume that? I'm a leftist my dude
@chrisdawson1776
@chrisdawson1776 9 ай бұрын
@@SavedAndConfused Keep crying
@SavedAndConfused
@SavedAndConfused 9 ай бұрын
@@chrisdawson1776 about what?
@jackstack2136
@jackstack2136 9 ай бұрын
Your generation sure has an obsession with being attributed to things you did not do
@AAZEDLARC
@AAZEDLARC 9 ай бұрын
OK, I'm not kidding. My late friend, costume designer Theadora Van Runkle (Bonnie & Clyde, The Godfather 2, etc.) worked on a film with Pasolini and they got to be great friends (this was in the mid-seventies.) When she returned home to Los Angeles, she wrote him a few letters, but he didn't respond - she was sort of hurt but film sets can be like that. It wasn't until years later that she found out he'd been killed :( I don't know if she ever talked about it with anyone else ://
@brianbadonde9251
@brianbadonde9251 4 ай бұрын
Sure buddy and my good pal Martin Scorsese worked on a movie with Robert De Niro
@giegerernst2014
@giegerernst2014 4 ай бұрын
​@@brianbadonde9251 If you left your house more often, you maybe would be able to meet famous people to, basement dweller
@francisdec1615
@francisdec1615 3 ай бұрын
The murder was probably on the news worldwide, though, at least in all western countries.
@crapversereturn5800
@crapversereturn5800 3 ай бұрын
​@@giegerernst2014 People who never believe anything are a bit frustrating.
@mikejames303
@mikejames303 3 ай бұрын
​@@crapversereturn5800right, like why would the OP make this up? It doesn't make him look cool or seem interesting. He's just saying he knew someone who was a costume designer that worked in the film industry. Like wow how unbelievable😂
@juliocesarpereira4325
@juliocesarpereira4325 10 ай бұрын
Another film director assassinated was Theo van Gogh from the Neatherlands. He directed 'Submission: Part 1', a short-film written and Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Somali writer and politican which criticised the treatment of women in Islam. Ayaan Hirsi Ali went into hiding and today lives in the United States at a secret location.
@FijianSouljah1312
@FijianSouljah1312 10 ай бұрын
Wishing, hoping and praying that man and those who worked on the movie stay safe. 🙏🏽 😔
@briancox9357
@briancox9357 10 ай бұрын
Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a great lady, brave, intelligent and compassionate. She's a great antidote to those who believe that religious extremism can lead to liberation.
@Juan_Stabone
@Juan_Stabone 10 ай бұрын
It's a religion of peace!
@jeremywhite9667
@jeremywhite9667 10 ай бұрын
Yes, we know. They typical and historically routine failures of multiculturalism are ever present in our society.
@joeorca5087
@joeorca5087 10 ай бұрын
You re beyond help.......
@stephenperretti8847
@stephenperretti8847 10 ай бұрын
You ignore the fact that passolini.was a gay man. Why???
@valentinbonchev7485
@valentinbonchev7485 23 күн бұрын
No one cares
@BJones-yw4dd
@BJones-yw4dd 10 ай бұрын
This video finally explains for me the (yes, extremely) disturbing "art" film I watched with friends in college back around 1982. Certain scenes still haunt me to this day, though I'd forgotten the title long ago. Then this video came up on my YT feed and it struck a chord. Indeed it is the never-forgotten, freakish film I saw long ago; but now I finally have some societal/historic context for it. Thank you for making and sharing this video.
@johnmcgrath6192
@johnmcgrath6192 10 ай бұрын
Hard to understand if you do not know what Salo means.
@usefulusinguser
@usefulusinguser 10 ай бұрын
@@johnmcgrath6192 I haven’t seen the movie but don’t understand the connection unless the “salo” I’m familiar with also as a different meaning. I’ve always known it as that Slavic bacon you eat with onion or garlic as a chaser to vodka
@johnmcgrath6192
@johnmcgrath6192 10 ай бұрын
@@usefulusinguser Salo is the northern Italian city that the WWII facist government retreated to as the Allies were near to taking Rome. The movie is a graphic depiction of the sadistic essence of fascism and also its seductiveness. Basically the fascists spend their last vdays enacting a version of the Marquis deSade's depiction of a sadist holiday. They demean and torture, physically and sexually, the attractive looking children of anti-fascists. The movies next to last scene is of the fascists torturing to death the anti-fascist young people. The last scene leaves us with a caution: one of the handsome young male anti-fascists joins the fascist swith a sensuous kiss. This is a warning that hat many young people, the future of Italy, will be seduced into fascism through and its love of power and brutality.. But many, having no idea of what Salo means, just see it as sado-masochistic porn.
@email4664
@email4664 10 ай бұрын
@@johnmcgrath6192 Cool. I will just skip it then, and forget the rest of this documentary and watch something worthwhiel
@rdubdojaclick
@rdubdojaclick 10 ай бұрын
@@email4664 everyone in this thread has admitted that the film is extremely difficult to watch, but given the historical context, it’s more understandable. amazing that you received a well thought out explanation, then gave the most dismissively ignorant replies possible. normally i WOULD recommend some of Pasolini’s other work but you seem more sympathetic to fascists than most, unfortunately.
@ganglabesh
@ganglabesh 9 ай бұрын
why do people defend this garbage and say it's art....here's the description of the "film": The libertines kidnap 18 teenagers and subject them to four months of extreme violence, sadism, and sexual and psychological torture.
@Takeshi357
@Takeshi357 10 ай бұрын
Me, seeing the title: "This is going to be about Salo, isn't it? Video: *Rome* Me: "Yup, it's Salo."
@pvzgamer6029
@pvzgamer6029 Ай бұрын
What I thought as well
@michaeledwards6683
@michaeledwards6683 10 ай бұрын
can you imagine making a film like saló and then everyone thinks you tried to rape a teenager for the next 30 years but you are dead so you can’t defend yourself
@poindextertunes
@poindextertunes 10 ай бұрын
i mean he clearly stepped on some toes
@whitedragoness23
@whitedragoness23 10 ай бұрын
@@poindextertunesmore like he crushed those toes
@trahapace150
@trahapace150 10 ай бұрын
He did have a thing for young boys though......
@whitedragoness23
@whitedragoness23 10 ай бұрын
Did he really? Evidence sources? I havnt seen this book or read about the guy. So, I’m not sure what’s the evidence for and against him.
@frejo1931
@frejo1931 10 ай бұрын
@@whitedragoness23 according to wikipedia, he was once charged with sexual misconduct with 3 teenagers and wouldn't deny the claims and instead compared himself to a self described pederast. He later met the "great love of his life" when he was 41, and the boy was only 15. so. The fascists story was really quite reasonable.
@rachelblake2350
@rachelblake2350 10 ай бұрын
I watched this movie when I was a teenager. I don't really know why. I went through a very brief period where I wanted to see some messed up shit. I can recall watching A Serbian Film at that time too. Looking back, this seems really out of character for me. I think I was literally just looking for something gross and graphic, and I was not expecting something artistic and deliberate and philosophically charged. It caught me off guard, and is the reason this film stuck with me over the other trash that I watched in that brief window of my life.
@keithmockett3810
@keithmockett3810 10 ай бұрын
appreciate your honesty! Keith xxx
@adambazso9207
@adambazso9207 10 ай бұрын
@@dees9478 I completely agree. Art, I mean fresh art should be always somewhat rebellious and criticizing the status quo and embedded power-structures. I watched just few of Pasolinis films, he maybe provoked society on purpose too, just for the sake of it, but always had deeper, darker and philosophical truths in his work. I remember watching "A Thousand and One Nights", where in a scene one of the characters cuts off the limbs and then the head of a female character. That truly shocked me and stayed with me.
@MrScratch69
@MrScratch69 10 ай бұрын
I had a similar experience when I watched Irreversible. That movie screwed me up for several days - I didn't sleep for a couple of nights and I still haven't forgotten the day I saw it. Not until I read about the production of that movie did I get over the level of violence portrayed in it. It's a brilliant concept that they pulled of very well but boy it's a rough one.
@juniorjames7076
@juniorjames7076 10 ай бұрын
Well as a horny pre-teen in the late 1980s, I knew EXACTLY what I was getting when I rented this from Blockbuster Video. Too young to rent from the XXX section of video stores, I learned that 1970s (eurotrash) foreign films (especially Italy, France and Greece) were the next best thing. Directors like Tinto Brass and Jesus Franco, or the Emmanuelle films, but once in awhile, aside from gratuitous sex and nudity, some of these films had intellectually/artistically though provoking elements.
@thing_under_the_stairs
@thing_under_the_stairs 10 ай бұрын
@@MrScratch69 'Irreversible' isn't even the most disturbing of Garpar Noe's films, at least in my opinion. 'I Stand Alone' left me in a deeply depressed state for a few weeks, though I take that on myself, as it was rented out at the time with a warning on the cover that it is not suitable for people who are prone to depression! I figured that since I'd been warned, I could handle it, more the fool was I. As for 'Irreversible', having some acting training in the past helped me to get through that one notoriously long, single shot scene in the middle. Being able to focus on the incredible skill of the actors, particularly Monica Bellucci's remarkable strength and emotive ability, allowed me to detach from what was actually being portrayed onscreen.
@gilgamet
@gilgamet 9 ай бұрын
I felt a bit bad for him until reading the wikipedia description of the movie. How much of a deviant do you have to be to produce and propagate this filth?
@enricogori1945
@enricogori1945 10 ай бұрын
As an Italian Pasolini connoisseur, I highly congratulate you on your analysis. Most videos treat the movie as an extreme horror movie in the likes of Cannibal Holocaust, A Serbian Film, Martyrs, I am the Devil...you name it. No: it's worse than any and all of them. It's purposedly horrible due to all you explained in the video about Pasolini's pessimistic view of capitalist industrial society. It should be noted that, albeit a Communist, he didn't like the Eastern Bloc any better (though he did often go to 1960s-1970s Romania for rejuvenating therapies). Indeed he harbored a passionate hatred for fascists, and for that he was indeed constantly harassed by the Italian Social Movement militants (the ISM (MSI) was a neofascist party founded by former fascists. Its adherents carried out the infamous 1969, 1974, 1980 terrorist bombings). When Pasolini was murdered, as Pino Pelosi recounted in his book, which sadly never gained much popularity here, though interesting books were written afterwards (the best being 'Pasolini. Massacro di un poeta'). Even sadder, Pelosi passed away in 2017 aged 59. Most people were indeed convinced that then 17 years old Pelosi had indeed murdered Pasolini in self-defense, since the poet, writer, director was an avowed homosexual who was known to accompany himself with male prostitutes (bear in mind that Pasolini arrived in the outskirts of Rome in 1950, and the city's peripheric areas were slums no different than those in Third World countries until the 1980s). Nobody ever considered the fact that it was downright impossible for skinny, diminutive, 17 years old Pelosi to overpower 53 years old, 185 cm tall, muscular, excellent swimmer and semiprofessional football player Pasolini. But those were the 'Lead Years' (lead as in Pb, the letal chemical element used in b*llets), a contradictory period where Italy was in great development, but political tensions were very high, and saw the activity of left wing terrorists and right wing carnages, not to mention the international situation (Greece, Chile, Argentina, Vietnam). Thanks for this video!
@lowandodor1150
@lowandodor1150 9 ай бұрын
What a great comment, thank you from Vienna! Oh, do you perhaps know this one documentary film about Pasolini by TV station Arte? I believe it has "Rome" in the title and i saw it about 10 years ago. It is in black & white and it is written in the form of talking directly to him. I got interrupted watching it towards the end, i believe it is pretty long and i remember i was so fascinated by it, due to a few of the points you also mentioned in your comment. I would really appreciate any tips or hints of where i could find that film, mille grazie!
@lowandodor1150
@lowandodor1150 9 ай бұрын
"Pasolini - Passion Roma" is what it is called, but i can't find it anywhere.
@Experternas
@Experternas 9 ай бұрын
You clearly has a very poor catalog of film knowledge. I hate the fact that you bundle Cannibal Holocaust, A Serbian Film, Martyrs, I am the Devil as being on par. If we use those particular films I would say that cannibal holocaust is similar to Texas Chainsaw massacre since Censor actually derived from that movie while Cannibal ended up in court defending it as being a film rather than snuff. Martyrs (original) is in no way the same snuff as A Serbian film which is the one closest to Salo from this list. that film was also most likely more of a self arousing porn material for the director than anything else just like Salo was the coprophagia heaven. Finally "I am the devil" I mean, did you refer to "I saw the devil" by Jee-woon Kim or is it some slim student film you're talking about?
@Experternas
@Experternas 9 ай бұрын
taste is subjective and irrelevant@citylights8678
@enricogori1945
@enricogori1945 9 ай бұрын
@@Experternas You clearly have not read my whole comment, and only commented to polemize. Get a life, you nerd.
@jojor9766
@jojor9766 9 ай бұрын
Use Occam's razor here. The director picked up a boy for sex. Instead of providing sex for money the boy opted to kill and take all the victim had. Often in such cases there is overkill by the attacker. These cases are much more frequent than attacks by roving fascist murder squads. To believe otherwise is to believe that the squad knew that the director frequented the railway station for you boys to pick up and set up a stakeout with the boy and got lucky when he was chosen. Set aside how many others might have been and foiled the plot. It makes zero sense. The irony here is that the director condemned capitalism as he said it forced people into selling themselves for the gratification of the privileged.
@GerardPerry
@GerardPerry 9 ай бұрын
💯
@giovanna722
@giovanna722 10 ай бұрын
I haven't seen the movie but, of course, have known about it for decades. The recent findings in the Long Island serial killer case, which reveal the rich and powerful and their sordid connection to the deaths of prostitutes recently led me to think of Salo, and look it up. I assume that's why I got this channel in my feed. Excellent, well narrated essay on a great man. Thank you!
@mikepalmer1971
@mikepalmer1971 10 ай бұрын
And Epstein’s island.
@lilv3966
@lilv3966 10 ай бұрын
Once you watch it you’ll think about it for decades after
@vfxtutswithdan1893
@vfxtutswithdan1893 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't recommend it.
@gleichuberndeich25813
@gleichuberndeich25813 10 ай бұрын
So true. I watched it years ago, around my 40's or somewhere along that line, because I was curious. I still wish I hadn't been. After nearly two decades having watched it, some scenes still haunt me. It was awful, terrifying, cruel. Would never want to watch it again neither recommend it.
@fonziebulldog5786
@fonziebulldog5786 10 ай бұрын
Well, lets say its only disturbing in a weird way who are hard to find the reason for.
@trelard
@trelard 10 ай бұрын
Bit of background: I was born in the UK in the late 1970's and was of an age where the "Video Nasties" scare imprinted certain defiant principles when I was a child. Namely, tell me I can't see or hear something, I'm going to use a phrase with the acronym F.O.. The first time I watched Salo, it was a circus of depravity that left me feeling sick. I rewatched it a few decades later and was able to discern and separate from the visuals presented. What I found is this: Unchained power is a recipe for delusional power. Victimhood is offered by the powerful towards the weak as a means of survival, even if that survival can be measured in minutes. The truly powerful are those who refuse the whims of the 'powerful', even at the risk of death. It's a common truth throughout history, and nothing scares the 'powerful' more. They MUST have total subservience. They will NEVER have it.
@joebowl8315
@joebowl8315 10 ай бұрын
They have had it longer than you will ever realize.
@Brian-sh5ne
@Brian-sh5ne 10 ай бұрын
If anyone is interested in the subject of Pasolini portrayed in music, Scott Walker has a song called Farmer in the City about the man and uses Pasolini's poetry in some of the lyrics. It's a hauntingly beautiful song.
@numskul
@numskul 10 ай бұрын
Morrissey references him in the song, “you have killed me”. Pasolini is me 'Accattone' you'll be I entered nothing and nothing entered me 'Til you came with the key
@Brian-sh5ne
@Brian-sh5ne 10 ай бұрын
I haven't heard that one. I'll have to listen
@kalamar2
@kalamar2 10 ай бұрын
love Scott Walker, thanks for the tip
@Here4TheHeckOfIt
@Here4TheHeckOfIt 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@buschovski1
@buschovski1 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, i know the song. I had no clue what it was about. Tilts a decent listen. You ever listen to Bish Bosch? That album is really crazy
@techtoth1
@techtoth1 10 ай бұрын
Pasolini wrote about and denounced the corruption of uncontrolled industrial society; the terrible danger of making education a joke, creating a sheep population. The horror of corruption amongst every layer of society. All the disasters in industrial life he foresaw, came to be. We all owe heroes like him a great debt, for trying to open up our eyes, and fight big economic powers and their inhuman greed that kills bodies and souls without the slightest hesitation. Consumerism unfortunately has won, and we can see that in front of our eyes every single day. Thanks, Pier Paolo, for your courage, for your life. Thanks for the video. Always be very aware of the lies servant state powers throw at you.
@antonioromano9963
@antonioromano9963 10 ай бұрын
True. Education today is a joke.
@amerocker
@amerocker 10 ай бұрын
This accurately describes the American society. A Yank
@techtoth1
@techtoth1 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately most of industrial societies... 😔 @@amerocker
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction 10 ай бұрын
​​@@techtoth1but the poetic irony strucks when he himself dated teenagers...
@techtoth1
@techtoth1 10 ай бұрын
@@godzillazfriction as I already wrote on another video: he was 27, at the time, and the teenagers were consensual. So: are you going to loathe Jerry Lee Lewis music because he did something similar? Or let God be the judge, and instead take all the good (and it's a lot) his gift donated us? There is no poetic irony here; his words were, and are, enlightening, showing us all the horror of industrial societies. Make treasure of those, and let judgment on his life be dealt elsewhere. Besides, he wasn't even condemned. The accusation was not for corruption of minors, but for sexual acts in public, which was considered untrue. Leave the questionable, take the good. For your own good. ☺️
@amniote69
@amniote69 10 ай бұрын
During my first year at university, there was a Pasolini season at the local art cinema. That's where I saw Salo. To my mind, the extremes of the film obscure it's message, not least because it's really not the kind of thing that you want to rewatch. My favourite film from the season was "Theorem", starring the uncannily beautiful Terrence Stamp as a stranger whose influence on the members of a bourgeois Italian family is used as an iconoclastic allegory.
@elizabethroberts6215
@elizabethroberts6215 10 ай бұрын
……Terrence Stamp was brilliant as Sgt Frank Troy, in film, ‘Far From the Madding Crowd’. The book, by Thomas Hardy, was my set-book for Grades XI & XII……loved it………his writing so fascinated me, I went on to read other books’ by him, ‘The Mayor of Casterbridge’, ‘Jude the Obscure’, & ‘Tess of d’Ubervilles’……all brilliant………
@postmodernrecycler
@postmodernrecycler 10 ай бұрын
Teorema is a fascinating film. Both Stamp and Silvana Mangano are incredible and mysterious in it.
@pushingthroughthepaperthin9616
@pushingthroughthepaperthin9616 9 ай бұрын
I watched it a number of times. But that probably says more about me then it does about the movie.
@donkeywhistler
@donkeywhistler 9 ай бұрын
sounds like LVT
@milascave2
@milascave2 9 ай бұрын
@@postmodernrecycler It is indeed. And, did you know that it was the inspiration for the movie "Down and out in Beverly Hills?" Not that they were anything alike, mind you.
@augustobraidotti6992
@augustobraidotti6992 10 ай бұрын
You left out that he was a convicted pedophile while working as a teacher in Friuli. Hence his move to Rome, as he was banned from teaching. Today he would be cancelled, as was Polanski.
@burningphoneix
@burningphoneix 10 ай бұрын
"You don't understand! I need to cast Nude 16 year old boys in my movies! It won't work otherwise!"
@Yet333
@Yet333 9 ай бұрын
Polanski was never “ cancelled”. He was protected and ultimately celebrated and continued working for years.
@DublinCityHeart
@DublinCityHeart 2 ай бұрын
Nooooo!! Not another one!
@darrinwyatt4323
@darrinwyatt4323 2 ай бұрын
Polanski was celebrated for years after his conviction until Weinstein suddenly made Hollywood a little more shy about promoting pdf files
@imalwaysbluffing
@imalwaysbluffing Ай бұрын
That is an important detail
@mateusgreenwood1096
@mateusgreenwood1096 10 ай бұрын
No matter what Saló makes you feel, you should realize much worse things happened in real life and in every country.
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 9 ай бұрын
Wish to elaborate? In as many words as you require.
@kingy002
@kingy002 9 ай бұрын
@@maazkalim Polpot, Amin, Stalin, Hitler.... the list is endless of murderers and regimes that exploited people for the benefit of them staying in power, to line their own pockets, and to play out their ideological ideas. How you could even ask the question is fuckin' beyond me.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 8 ай бұрын
​@@maazkalimUse your imagination. People can be evil when they want to.
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 8 ай бұрын
Do you represent the OP, or are their sock-puppet, "@@falconeshield"?
@sybill123ful
@sybill123ful 8 ай бұрын
the way some of you are using actual human suffering to deflect how shit this movie is, is insane
@kristinechristlieb1383
@kristinechristlieb1383 10 ай бұрын
Another commentator mentioned Pasolini moved to Rome because he was convicted of indecency with a minor, an underage boy. Any thoughts on that?
@adrianaslund8605
@adrianaslund8605 5 ай бұрын
It's probable he had some darkness to him.
@Bojonatanjarpehag
@Bojonatanjarpehag 2 ай бұрын
If that's true it's bad of c. But it doesn't take away hes genius.
@dk60ish
@dk60ish 10 ай бұрын
In the early 80's I watched an indie theater double bill of "The Canterbury Tales" (1972) & "The Arabian Nights" (1974) when I was in college, which were both fun, colorful, & lighthearted in nature; I only learned later of his more controversial films & murder.😂
@COURRUPTIONCOIN
@COURRUPTIONCOIN 5 ай бұрын
Was said ; Pasolini told us fantasy's...and then he ...told us the truth..."
@stephanclemens2348
@stephanclemens2348 9 ай бұрын
Well, if there's a lesson to take away than that Kubricks and Pasolinis Fate indicate that making a movie about rich Elites throwing perverted Sexparties as an analogy to our system isn't such a smart idea after all.😉
@nunyabidnith7110
@nunyabidnith7110 10 ай бұрын
You kinda gloss over the horror of Salo...it's an adaptation of a book by the Marquis de Sade which, in book form, literally got him imprisoned for decades because it was considered so obscene. The book glorifies the pursuit of pleasure at all costs...pedophilia...necrophilia...and worse. You don't need a conspiracy to suss out why someone killed this guy.
@barrymoore4470
@barrymoore4470 10 ай бұрын
Sade was already in prison before he commenced writing his '120 Days of Sodom'. He wrote it during his imprisonment, and indeed lost the manuscript when he was transferred to another institution. That is why the novel was never actually completed, much of it remaining only in outline form.
@nunyabidnith7110
@nunyabidnith7110 10 ай бұрын
@@barrymoore4470 legit I realized that after I posted this. But I was, and currently am, drunk...anyway still. My ultimate point still stands...the book was WAY worse than the movie, and the movie was still plumbed the depths of depravity. Is it a surprise someone killed him? I don't support killing people because someone's fefes were hurt. But also, some folks do that because of blah blah blah.
@PedroDominguesunus
@PedroDominguesunus 10 ай бұрын
Wonderful and well researched video. Thank you for keeping him alive.
@Yet333
@Yet333 9 ай бұрын
Have to throw in a 🤖c-ment to counter balance the fact this film was 💩
@Syncrotron9001
@Syncrotron9001 8 ай бұрын
He missed a big clue. Dudes initials are 3 Ps, what number does that look like? He was filming a movie about a biblical location. Somethings up here.
@Josh-q9e
@Josh-q9e 7 ай бұрын
Pasolini sexually assaulted a 15 yr old boy. Why do u want him kept alive? I thought u guys hated men that sexually assaulted boys
@Can-x8k
@Can-x8k 7 ай бұрын
Why do you like Pasolini? He had a relationship with a 15 yr old boy. You guys hat men that go out naked around kids at pride parades so u should hate men like Pasolini too
@jota893
@jota893 10 ай бұрын
Salo. 1980s rainy afternoon in Bogota Colombia. I have never regretted watching that movie. Brutal film, but people in power commit horrors in the name of law, party, country, god, or some other rule. Very good analysis. Thank you.
@RedRonFJB
@RedRonFJB 10 ай бұрын
also committing atrocities in the name of globalism/ one world order too.
@evemaria37
@evemaria37 10 ай бұрын
​@@RedRonFJBthe ultimate goal is always the same : control and power.
@amerocker
@amerocker 10 ай бұрын
What is so brutal in this film?
@willardv
@willardv 10 ай бұрын
@@amerockerMainly its depictions of extreme sexual and physical abuse of teenagers
@amerocker
@amerocker 10 ай бұрын
@@willardv Thank you for responding.
@harrychapin808
@harrychapin808 10 ай бұрын
I have this film 🎥. He was probably assassinated by HIGH LEVEL OFFICIALS... because the film was about PAST HIGH LEVEL OFFICIALS COMMITTING EXTREMELY PERVERTED CRIMES against "young innocent people." ONE can only imagine what TRULY OCCURRED on EPSTEIN'S ISLAND 🏝... or what still OCCURS IN "BOHEMIAN GROVE." The film is brilliant regarding the DEPRAVATIVE treatment of INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS by the RICH & POWERFUL.
@Dulcestudio95
@Dulcestudio95 10 ай бұрын
Must suck being naive friend
@elizabethr.110
@elizabethr.110 10 ай бұрын
​@@Dulcestudio95ikr.. a tad unhinged as well. Not a good combo.
@raghailligh1080
@raghailligh1080 10 ай бұрын
@@elizabethr.110 Gotta LOVE the RANDOM capitalizations THOUGH. Comedy GOLD.
@derealized797
@derealized797 10 ай бұрын
Well at least he doesn't believe that men can get pregnant. The most ridiculous conspiracy theory I've heard recently was that Donald Trump was a "Russian Asset"... i mean, the people who believed that, rioted looted and burned cities for over 4 years, calling it "peaceful protest".
@MsDormy
@MsDormy 10 ай бұрын
Yes indeed - what do the undying ‘elite’ pervs get up to? Is adreno chrome really worth going to hell for?
@curtisdaniel9294
@curtisdaniel9294 10 ай бұрын
I saw this upon a recommendation from a friend. His only explanation was , " you need to watch this." I did, but it took me few days to get through it. Too much in one sitting. This was in the days before the internet and trying to find some background on th film was not easy. Your video essay is very good, and gives me the necessary details about the film and its creator. Even if it brought back some sad and disturbing memories, I would like to say thanks.
@egay86292
@egay86292 8 ай бұрын
can't handle sad and disturbing, Virginia?
@AthelstanKing
@AthelstanKing 7 ай бұрын
why would you intentionally consume such garbage in a life where you wont even have enough time to see all the actual good films lol. Deranged masochism @@egay86292
@hattorihanzo2275
@hattorihanzo2275 10 ай бұрын
I was in Bologna last summer. I was not aware Pasolini was from Bologna. I saw banners about a Pasolini in a square. The power of WiFi allowed me to discover I was a few minutes walk to his childhood home.
@alexandrerichard6057
@alexandrerichard6057 10 ай бұрын
Fascism and snuff/paedophilia in the higher ranks of society is a connection that rarely gets mentionned. A system that constantly creates new ennemies needs people at the top that are capable of dehumanizing anyone. Wanton acts of violent sex are often used as a rite of passage, a ceremonial means of extracting kompromat and ensure that no one at the top leaves the group with a guilty conscience.
@tonywords6713
@tonywords6713 10 ай бұрын
100% this!! Whitney Webb "One Nation Under Blackmail"
@ljubomirculibrk4097
@ljubomirculibrk4097 10 ай бұрын
Same did the BND in West Germany, molesting minors. Politicians and influental people where abusing orphans which where under protection of catholic church, church was a part of the crime. Wery dark and disqusting...
@LTPottenger
@LTPottenger 10 ай бұрын
Globalists you mean, going on right now as well.
@user-tm8jt2py3d
@user-tm8jt2py3d 10 ай бұрын
When everything is referred to as fascism, nothing is
@evemaria37
@evemaria37 10 ай бұрын
Where is the Gyslaine Maxwell list???
@TylerKingNuReview
@TylerKingNuReview 10 ай бұрын
You did a fantastic job mentioning everything about Pasolini except for the fact that he was a pedophile. Not sure why you glazed over that one.
@manoharjishnu2009
@manoharjishnu2009 10 ай бұрын
You know when the dude stands as an icon of a very left leaning ideology, things like that goes over the head in a whoosh. Its not like this was unique to Pasolini's case, rather a routine when it comes to celebrated personalities.
@giovanna722
@giovanna722 10 ай бұрын
@@manoharjishnu2009 He was gay, but not a pedophile.
@davidm3118
@davidm3118 10 ай бұрын
He was a pedophile - he liked to brutalize pubescent boys - I don't think any gays will thank you for perpetuating such toxic ideas that gays are like Pasolini. @@giovanna722
@CQ-369
@CQ-369 10 ай бұрын
Where did the claim that Passolini was pedophile come from? I don't believe it's true. Baseless moral defamation of opponents is a tried & true fascist tactic. We can witness it today in the American Trumpist party.
@ivanamaria6101
@ivanamaria6101 10 ай бұрын
The age of consent in Italy was 14 at the time. So he may have been a creep,sure, but not a pedo
@ewarrior9776
@ewarrior9776 10 ай бұрын
I have never watched Salo because of Passolini's use of child abuse. I know that the abuse is a metaphor for Fascist Italy, but I can't deal because of my own history. I've watched plenty of disturbing media but this one will always be a hard pass.
@kingy002
@kingy002 9 ай бұрын
These were not children in Salo. I believe they were all of what would be considered legal age.
@sybill123ful
@sybill123ful 8 ай бұрын
@@kingy002ain’t no way ,. you like… tried to miss the point they were making. it doesn’t matter if adults played the kids, why do y’all wanna see such insane depictions of child abuse even if it’s fictional? so many directors have made movies where there are metaphor characters for dictators or evil people; they didn’t have to make the characters be literal children to do that. that’s just the director wanting to make it weird. you could easily do this same story but with adults in the “kids” places, because adults can be taken advantage of too, if you need to use children in order to make an audience feel empathy, then maybe you should just write a better movie that naturally makes people feel what the messaging wants them to.
@kingy002
@kingy002 8 ай бұрын
@@sybill123ful None of these characters were played by kids. The actors were all in their late teens. 18 to 20 year olds.
@Walamonga1313
@Walamonga1313 8 ай бұрын
​@@sybill123fulThe characters weren't kids tho?
@atmosfear3056
@atmosfear3056 8 ай бұрын
People seem to clearly overlook how SOME people will take in this film and purposely ignore the actual meaning and just enjoy the depravity taking place in the movie. This is why movies like this are trash. This movie is like a stepping stone for pedoes and sexual predators out there. The actual ARTISTIC meaning is lost on most viewers. Yes it's well directed it's shot well. Production was great...but the story no matter how metaphorical it is supposed to be....is trash. With all that said. This dude should have not been killed over this garbage he manifested.
@RytheCodplayer
@RytheCodplayer 9 ай бұрын
This isn’t about eyes wide shut
@thebigragu9952
@thebigragu9952 9 ай бұрын
Stanley Kubrick was not killed for making Eyes Wide Shut, he was an elderly, chain smoking, overweight, ball of stress who died at his manor of a heart attack. The elites didn’t remove anything from the movie, Stanley showed both the studio, as well as Cruise and Kidman the Final Cut before he passed. Kubrick was a reductionist and had already cut multiple hours of content from the film, himself. Twenty minutes wouldn’t have changed anything.
@davidmcmaster2083
@davidmcmaster2083 10 ай бұрын
Never forget renting Salo at a video store, back in the day when we all rented VHS tapes, and the employees were commenting about me while processing my order. I musta been the only 'weirdo' to ever rent that flick. Can't deny that I'm a weirdo.
@clarencewalker3925
@clarencewalker3925 10 ай бұрын
The world would a boring place without weirdos.
@elricofmelnibone425
@elricofmelnibone425 10 ай бұрын
Bro you both have failed the vibe check.
@CountlessPWNZ
@CountlessPWNZ 10 ай бұрын
​@@elricofmelnibone425according to who? some zoomer fuck?
@davidmcmaster2083
@davidmcmaster2083 10 ай бұрын
@@elricofmelnibone425 That's a bummer. Not groovy failing the vibe check.
@davidmcmaster2083
@davidmcmaster2083 10 ай бұрын
@@clarencewalker3925 No truer statement ever uttered.
@anthonydimichele837
@anthonydimichele837 10 ай бұрын
Long ago Salo was shown at the Seattle film festival and they handed out "vomit bags" to all who entered the theater! I had a hard time watching it. But I think your analysis of it as a condemnation of consumerism is spot on.
@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090
@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090 10 ай бұрын
The hilarity is that making movies is all about selling it to the consumer. I'm guessing how cheap it was, that he probably could have made it from his wallet and just showed it free as a home movie. But if this has ever been done. You can bet your life it was done just so the director could stroke his own ego. Anyone tell you something is free. you best be getting on your way.
@kenw2225
@kenw2225 10 ай бұрын
Isn't youtube free?
@derealized797
@derealized797 10 ай бұрын
@@kenw2225 Ad supported
@maymalone1505
@maymalone1505 10 ай бұрын
This is about Humanity gone berserk and very evil,
@21stcenturyozman20
@21stcenturyozman20 10 ай бұрын
Some folk must have weak stomachs! I've watched Salo a few times, usually while eating a meal.
@paulinefriar6916
@paulinefriar6916 10 ай бұрын
That film seems to be unmistakeably prophetic. Just look around, that society is here, now
@CEspinal-i6u
@CEspinal-i6u 7 ай бұрын
He was killed because it was True. Too literal for him to be allowed to live.
@WFHermans
@WFHermans 8 ай бұрын
Pasolini accused others of what he was doing himself. Look it up.
@pete8276
@pete8276 8 ай бұрын
This, the ignorance is repulsive
@Cicco2008
@Cicco2008 10 ай бұрын
... interesting ... while the film was banned in other countries for its graphic sex and violence (in anglophone countries particularly - as though it were only about sex and violence, a misreading of the film which I have never fully understood), here in Italy what got many people polarized and upset - and still does (among my friends, anyway) - is the deep cutting commentary and critique on fascism, communism, capitalism and "values" of modern society.... it is devastating in its breadth ... it is also a bleak comment on compliance with power, even by those who may at first seen to be its victims, as most of the victims eventually betray each other in return for small benefits and favours from their abusers and in some ways start to identify with them (like, "Stockholm syndrome" I believe it called?) .... in other words, we all become complicit in our own servitude, abuse and exploitation.... and while state/society may not always be inflicting overt violence on its subjects (as grossly presented in Salo), it is committing mores subtle, structural forms of violence and abuse that many of us accept unquestioningly ... in its direct damning depiction of fascism as representative of an ideology that overtly abuses power in all its forms and reduces the individual to an object of power, the fascists never forgave him and it has long been assumed that they had him killed, if not killed him .... whether the reading I present was that intended by Pasolini, who knows? to me it is a bleak vision of power and human nature, with no salvation. But of course many other readings are possible ...
@evemaria37
@evemaria37 10 ай бұрын
It is my understanding also. But you put it in words with brio!
@TheKnoxvicious
@TheKnoxvicious 10 ай бұрын
Dude, it’s literally people eating shit. They’re kinks…look who the heck WROTE IT.
@glint3924
@glint3924 9 ай бұрын
You can get that point across without being extremely reaching disturbing coprophilic imagery here. Critique the ones that made it possible rather than those that's inflicting it.
@AutonymousTube
@AutonymousTube 10 ай бұрын
Great film, that shows the depravity of when people have absolute power over others. It is hard to stomach. But I don’t think anything in it is worse than actually things that have happened in reality. So I don’t consider the extremeness of it unnecessary,just an artistic choice.
@dragon___
@dragon___ 8 ай бұрын
yes, pasolini and his writers really didnt adapt too much of the sexual depravities from the original manuscript from de sade because it was way too extreme and unnecessary to ever show on film. just ideas that symbolize actual happenings in the power dynamic of the state and society that he think is disgusting
@sybill123ful
@sybill123ful 8 ай бұрын
bro what…… if you needed to see such gross visual aids like implied child p0rn in a shitty fictional movie, in order to see inhumanity. you are part of the inhumane.
@jimbeam-ru1my
@jimbeam-ru1my 8 ай бұрын
"Great film"" Said no one ever but you. what's your malfunction? Only people with deep psychosis like murder porn propaganda.
@trotux6825
@trotux6825 19 күн бұрын
He was himself convicted. His movie is cultural cancer and he should have been put in jail.
@kierank1982
@kierank1982 4 ай бұрын
Every filmmaker is in Pasolini's shadow. He made the ultimate mic drop final film which artistically but devastatingly summed up his sincere beliefs. When Salo was summited to our censor in England our scissor-happy censor was moved by it and tried to release it but the police seized the film. Pasolini even made censors want to break rules by arguing that his genius was an exception to any censor rules. Bravo for making your video.
@josephc5707
@josephc5707 9 ай бұрын
NOT "the most controversial film ever" (There is no single "most") and it was NOT responsible for getting Pasolini murdered. Fixed it for you.
@vittoriostoraro
@vittoriostoraro 8 ай бұрын
"A random?" Sorry, incorrect English usage. Secondly, as a former producer for Criterion and curator for MOMA Film archives, I've both projected and held several of Pasolini's personal prints in my hands. WTF do you know, infant? Get back to me when you grow up and take a few remedial English classes.
@exus2sky
@exus2sky 19 күн бұрын
This movie was a masterpiece, depicting exactly what those on top are all about. He showed America almost 60 years ago
@zadehgenerous9331
@zadehgenerous9331 10 ай бұрын
This was an absolutely excellent video essay. This popped up in my feed on my lunch break and it had me thinking " what was the video that had me sub to this channel?" ... and then I got lost in the content. So good.
@RedFox-c5l
@RedFox-c5l 6 ай бұрын
It also says they are all posessed
@eversosleight
@eversosleight 10 ай бұрын
I've seen a lot of coverage and reviews on Salo but never heard this story behind the film maker.
@kennithdubroy797
@kennithdubroy797 10 ай бұрын
I totally agree about the mass consumerism. Just with vehicles for instance. If it wasn't for people's vanity imagine how fewer cars would be made. That is the real problem with us. Just go online and look at the 20 plus year old car's that are available that are perfectly safe and in great mechanical condition. But go ahead and buy a EV and tell everyone how good of a person you are.While destroying a huge part of our economy. Imagine what we could accomplish if we bought a ten thousand dollar car and trade it down to people that can only afford a three thousand dollar car every five years or so and put our money into our communities. What a world it would be,I'm aloud to dream. And before anyone wants to blast me,yes I have bought a brand new car that costed forty-five thousand dollars a I showed it off expecting everyone to be proud me. Never again now I tell people to buy what they can afford meaning if you can't buy it outright in one payment don't do it
@LUIS-ox1bv
@LUIS-ox1bv 9 ай бұрын
Rubbish.
@raptorcheesus
@raptorcheesus 9 ай бұрын
so you got post nut clarity with buying new cars?
@chuckthebull
@chuckthebull 10 ай бұрын
I can't speak for italy but i imagine that Pasolini would recoil in horror to witness what places like America has turned into where corporate control and greed is soaked into every single institution and its government is corrupted to its very core.. how tragic and ironic and proof of point for him to die at the hands of the very people he was portraying in his last film..
@Bout_TreeFiddy
@Bout_TreeFiddy 10 ай бұрын
no doubt
@a.m.armstrong8354
@a.m.armstrong8354 10 ай бұрын
America has turned into? America is spiritual corruption erected upon virgin soil.
@chuckthebull
@chuckthebull 10 ай бұрын
Two replies and only one visible? Ah you tube following the same pattern of fascist censorship. Pasolini would also need to make a film about you tube scμmmy tactics
@bench175
@bench175 7 ай бұрын
Corporations are good they support black lives matter
@Josh-q9e
@Josh-q9e 7 ай бұрын
@@Bout_TreeFiddyPasolini was a child predator that assaulted an underage teen boy. Why are u acting like he’s a good guy? He did the things in this movie
@GreenshirtMr1023
@GreenshirtMr1023 9 ай бұрын
I once told an Italian girl at a party that I admired Pasolini's work and she side eyed me and said "oh, you know about Pasolini"
@sybill123ful
@sybill123ful 8 ай бұрын
surely this happened. and if it did it’s cause she thinks ur a predator
@AnimosityIncarnate
@AnimosityIncarnate 3 ай бұрын
​@@sybill123ful idk if thats the case bro, thats kinda the nuclear options lmao could have just been a wierd context for the discussion, its good to shift the conversation from 1-2 and not 1-50 for example 😂
@noheroespublishing1907
@noheroespublishing1907 10 ай бұрын
Almost makes me think he was a victim of "Operation Gladio".
@mynameismynameis666
@mynameismynameis666 10 ай бұрын
almost? most def!initely. probably even US/vatican ordered.
@noheroespublishing1907
@noheroespublishing1907 10 ай бұрын
@@mynameismynameis666 Wouldn't surprise me to learn if it was true.
@hattorihanzo2275
@hattorihanzo2275 10 ай бұрын
​@@mynameismynameis666Vatican? Maybe but Pasolini was nothing in the eyes of US.
@mynameismynameis666
@mynameismynameis666 10 ай бұрын
no he was. he was an italian communist with a public image and as such a prime target of the murder campaign that was gladio/"strategy of tension" (which was assisted, consulted and perpetrated by US OSS/CI, MAFIA &NAZI WARCRIMINALS against their political opponents WORLDWIDE) and this is also why his murder was so public and gruesome@@hattorihanzo2275
@johngayder9249
@johngayder9249 10 ай бұрын
@@hattorihanzo2275The Americans/nato did not want Italy to elect a left wing government lest it then get too cozy with the Russians. Gladio conducted outrages and then blamed left wingers in order to encourage increased empowerment of the “conservatives” to “protect society”.
@gjk2012
@gjk2012 10 ай бұрын
The movie could be quite literal disguised as metaphorical. What some elites do behind closed doors or on an "Island".
@Trepidateousflesh
@Trepidateousflesh 10 ай бұрын
An "Epstein Island" ? You might say ?
@evemaria37
@evemaria37 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@nicmart
@nicmart 10 ай бұрын
Literal disguised as metaphorical. 🤪
@a.m.armstrong8354
@a.m.armstrong8354 10 ай бұрын
​@@remotefaithHow do you not know? Ask Ghislaine Maxwell, bro..
@sarahalbers5555
@sarahalbers5555 8 ай бұрын
And Peter Nygaard.​@@a.m.armstrong8354
@jamesbrinner3678
@jamesbrinner3678 10 ай бұрын
watched Salo with a girlfriend as she had to watch it for her University course. Would never have chosen to watch it but glad I did do to its impact on me at the time. yes its deprived, sick and ugly but it does speak a lot of truth
@DogeickBateman
@DogeickBateman 10 ай бұрын
The truth that Pasolini was a pervert
@jamesbrinner3678
@jamesbrinner3678 10 ай бұрын
and you aren't?@@DogeickBateman
@DogeickBateman
@DogeickBateman 10 ай бұрын
@@jamesbrinner3678 Nice projection communist
@GROZNAYA
@GROZNAYA 10 ай бұрын
Probably re-enacted the scat scenes with the old lady. *nudge*
@jamesbrinner3678
@jamesbrinner3678 10 ай бұрын
sounds like you've seen the film quite a few times @@GROZNAYA
@dramares
@dramares 9 ай бұрын
‘But the filth is merited, bro”… Really?… Did he get what he deserved?… Hmmm.
@theunsweetkarmaway
@theunsweetkarmaway 10 ай бұрын
This is one of the better analyses of 'Salo' that I have seen. I have spent years studying this film and the life of Pasolini. I don't find too many cinephiles with whom I can discuss this film, but I gravitate to perspectives like this. Excellent.
@lowandodor1150
@lowandodor1150 9 ай бұрын
May i ask, do you perhaps know the Arte documentary about him? It is in black & white, written in the style of talking directly to him and i saw this about 10 years ago. I believe it has "Rome" in the title. That's all that i know about it, besides of course being really fascinated by it and towards the end i was interrupted watching it, which is why i only have this rather vague memory of it. Would really appreciate any hints or tips of where i could find it or if you know it, thank you.
@lowandodor1150
@lowandodor1150 9 ай бұрын
"Pasoloni - Passion Roma" is the title but i cannot find it anywhere.
@louise_rose
@louise_rose 9 ай бұрын
Extraordinary conversation in 1968 between Pasolini and Ezra Pound (in Italian of course, and without subs): kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2TZY6drgb6DY5o
@Syncrotron9001
@Syncrotron9001 8 ай бұрын
Pier Paolo Pasolini: His initials are 3 upside down 6s. He was "ended" while filming a movie about a religious location. Too big to be coincidence.
@lowandodor1150
@lowandodor1150 8 ай бұрын
PPP = 666 upside down! You are a genius!@@Syncrotron9001
@HarringtonsApocy
@HarringtonsApocy 10 ай бұрын
I see a lot of people appreciate the man… too much. Just to give a perspective, i’m a communist who lives in a facist state, i am a third class citizen based on my sex, i am a second class citizen based on my ethnicity, i live in a world with the same horrific conditions to his, but worse, i and countless others i know make art about our contemporary conditions and not once have we ever NEEDED to pay adult men to sexually touch children on camera to feel we’ve gotten our message across.
@martitinkovich4489
@martitinkovich4489 10 ай бұрын
You make a strong point.
@sabrinatscha2554
@sabrinatscha2554 10 ай бұрын
I don’t like you, but I agree with you.
@willywonka7812
@willywonka7812 10 ай бұрын
@@sabrinatscha2554 you're very dum
@tileux
@tileux 10 ай бұрын
Its obvious you haven’t seen Salo. Its actually quite tame by most modern standards. The violence in the movie is tame by every standard, especially compared to most movies today. The sex in the movie is tame compared to most things you can see on the internet today, or even in cinemas or on tv. The movie contains no pedophilia. You shouidnt make comments about things that you clearly dont know anything about. Incidentally, the movie is intended to comment on the corrupt morals of that time (and today).
@DogeickBateman
@DogeickBateman 10 ай бұрын
What country you live in?
@chicklets4ever51
@chicklets4ever51 10 ай бұрын
This is complete nonsense. The film hadn't even come out yet when he was murdered. Pasolini was assassinated because he was a political radical with access to the front page of Italy's most powerful newspaper, and from that platform he denounced the crimes of the ruling class and was beginning to expose their involvement in the terrorist attacks that were tearing Italy apart at the time.
@JD-jc8gp
@JD-jc8gp 10 ай бұрын
The video doesn't really contradict what you're saying. The title is maybe a little misleading, but for effect.
@ivanamaria6101
@ivanamaria6101 10 ай бұрын
Several tapes of the filming were stolen of the set when they were shooting Salo, so
@chicklets4ever51
@chicklets4ever51 10 ай бұрын
and so? @@ivanamaria6101
@624radicalham
@624radicalham 10 ай бұрын
This is complete bs lol. I love how people think they can rewrite history. He was gay, driving his silver Alfa Romeo GTV, trolling for young men and was killed by one of the young, mentally unstable boys over a sexual position. That's it. There is nothing more. Do your research by actually reading what's left of the case files from the Italian police at the time.
@theopinionisthighqualityopinio
@theopinionisthighqualityopinio 10 ай бұрын
This is truly a hilarious take-"read what's left of the case files from the Italian police..." Do YOU trust the Italian police? The so called justice system in this country is a joke and if you believe the old story about his death being a gay date gone wrong, well, you're very gullible and naïve.
@Maat-ka-Ra
@Maat-ka-Ra 10 ай бұрын
i didn't know that Pasolini romanticised Italy that hard. one needs just to look up Italy's history starting with Rome, there is not one period in it where the "pure italian underclass' soul" was actually present. all just wishful thinking.
@Shinobi33
@Shinobi33 10 ай бұрын
I'm nowhere near as shocked by the film as I am by the true story of Marquis De Sade's kidnapping and rapping of young poor village people.
@kentjensen4504
@kentjensen4504 10 ай бұрын
Emphasis is on the second to last syllable when you pronounce most Italian names. Like with Citti. Not chittEE but CHITT-ee. You say pa-va-ROTT-ee, not pa-va-rott-EE. ta-ran-TEE-no, not ta-ran-tee-NO. Joe PESH-ee, not pesh-EE. Second to last syllable. No matter how long the name. If I make up a name - Spezzavollatorfannoni - then the pronounciation would be spetsa-volla-torfann-ON-ee.
@Phobero
@Phobero 10 ай бұрын
EEY, my name is Mario Spezzavollatorfannoni! How did you know? 😮🤣
@kentjensen4504
@kentjensen4504 10 ай бұрын
@@Phobero We've been keeping tabs on the whole Spezzavollatorfannoni clan. We know what you're up to. We know about the secret island base and the Victorian dentistry equipment collection. We know everything.
@jornhesl4707
@jornhesl4707 10 ай бұрын
Pasolini was the world's most overrated film director ever, that's for sure.
@travishancock2302
@travishancock2302 10 ай бұрын
So wouldn’t this be Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton and friends, in our modern day..?
@SurrealiamPrime
@SurrealiamPrime 9 ай бұрын
you seriously needa touch grass, dude.
@JohnJarpe-hm3wj
@JohnJarpe-hm3wj 2 ай бұрын
You left out Epstein's longtime sidekick Donald Trump.
@FREEEDDOOMM
@FREEEDDOOMM 6 сағат бұрын
​@@JohnJarpe-hm3wj then you know nothing about the case if you believe that.
@yugen3968
@yugen3968 8 ай бұрын
Salo isn't a "grotesque" film. It's one which parades the grotesqueness of its fascist subjects. I went in to watch it for the novelty of watching a horrible film. Became one of my favourites.
@sybill123ful
@sybill123ful 8 ай бұрын
🧐
@JeffreyDeCristofaro
@JeffreyDeCristofaro 10 ай бұрын
Certainly not an easy film to watch, let alone like - I had to brave a second viewing before officially calling that a sufficiency - but when one particular filmmaker makes a film that was not only controversial from the onset and was banned, but was also mainly if not wholly responsible for his assassination... man, he REALLY made something significant!
@DogeickBateman
@DogeickBateman 10 ай бұрын
Almost as if people didn't want someone with that depraved a mind walking in society
@francisdec1615
@francisdec1615 10 ай бұрын
@@DogeickBateman You're a real NPC. You don't realize that the bastards he depicted in the film were 10000 *worse* than himself. Even the Marquise de Sade himself was probably writing the novel to show that the "elite" imprisoning him were so much worse. It's not like it's a lie about Catholic priests raping young boys or that Epstein "committed suicide" in a high security jail in central NYC and Ghislaine Maxwell got 20 years, while all those buying young girls from them got away. And in Austria in the early 1800s there was an aristocrat similar to the Duke in Salò, who was chronically impotent but raped small girls with a giant leather dildo, killing two of them but getting away with it, since he was protected by the Emperor himself. The Swedish chemist Carl Palmstedt told his friend and colleague Jöns Jacob Berzelius this in a letter. And in Sweden itself high politicians were buying sex from girls under 15, when this movie was made, and they got away with it too and didn't even have their careers destroyed.
@Here4TheHeckOfIt
@Here4TheHeckOfIt 10 ай бұрын
Or exposing a truth, which is far more of a threat than depravity.
@DogeickBateman
@DogeickBateman 10 ай бұрын
@@Here4TheHeckOfIt 🤓
@danielhayes3607
@danielhayes3607 10 ай бұрын
Weak
@CheckThatBook
@CheckThatBook 6 ай бұрын
Here I was, researching Pasolini & listening intently to your video, thinking to myself: "Damn, wouldn't it be great to make an autobiographical film." I even thought of Dafoe as a lead for a moment. And - whoa! On the thirteenth minute of your video I discover that such film already exists, and Dafoe in the main role to boot. I got goosebumps. Thank you for this video! I will soon be doing a psychological introduction to Marquis de Sade's book on my channel - to all of those interested - check it out ;) Thank you once again for such an informative video! +sub
@Greenwood13
@Greenwood13 7 ай бұрын
This was such a beautiful video essay! I read 120 days of Sodom a few years ago and was truly enlightened by it. A different beast in terms of literature and psychology. I haven't seen Salò yet and knew very little about Pasolini, but found this video very informative and enjoyable 👍🏻
@FucTrump
@FucTrump 9 ай бұрын
Got murdered to make a movie where someone eats shit. Hope it was worth it.
@filmneek
@filmneek 10 ай бұрын
His film is just pure evil. An absolutely disgusting and disgraceful thing every constructed in filmmaking history. A film that depicts the most hideous aspects of human depravity and cruelty. Kind of brave for a man such as he to even make it - but I hope no one ever has the displeasure of sitting through that heinous film.
@filmneek
@filmneek 10 ай бұрын
@breadandcircuses8127 humanity is a mix bag. I know most people’s natural instinct is to not be evil.
@Mustanaamio7
@Mustanaamio7 10 ай бұрын
You are just a prude who doesn't understand art. Pasolini was great artist and Salo is a masterpiece. Art doesn't have to pleasant.
@castle23clash
@castle23clash 10 ай бұрын
@@Mustanaamio7 Funny how Europe and America have become so "tolerant" yet more dangerous and unsafe the past century. Maybe there was a reason why prudishness was the prevailing attitude for so long.
@obscurecomics5849
@obscurecomics5849 10 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that the rules set down by the libertines in Salo were designed to be impossible. That is so the libertines could have the pleasure of seeing them squirm before punishing them. It was another form of sadistic pleasure. They were set up to fail.
@BellaBella-jw9ef
@BellaBella-jw9ef 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like the Canadian housing market
@myrnajay2785
@myrnajay2785 10 ай бұрын
Salo, a film I wish I'd never seen. The feces, as disgusting as it all was... it's the ending that is burned in my brain.
@BC-qw6jj
@BC-qw6jj 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, that was the toughest part for me. Tried to tell myself it's just movie poop. But who knows...
@ROBERTPUNU
@ROBERTPUNU 9 ай бұрын
this reminds me of another ''artista'' who got murdered for his craft, Chalino Sanchez, murdered on May 16, 1992, for singing about the drug cartel.
@gregdobbs2577
@gregdobbs2577 8 ай бұрын
helps to explain a, brutal, movie I did not understand when I saw it. movie or novel, he was a threat to the powers that be for sure dangerous business exposing the truth of power, corruption a freedom fighter lives on today, thank you for this work
@andronis6452
@andronis6452 10 ай бұрын
People who hate on salo , are like little kids who dont understand anything. That movie is a masterpiece, it depicted how depraved and sick the elite are, and show what they do in they private mansions , without any polishing the event. my english sux, so i cant explain any better.
@andronis6452
@andronis6452 10 ай бұрын
@changbo8690 i did , last year
@stella3265
@stella3265 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the documentary. You just upped my film I.Q 1 point. Love Anna Magnani.
@barrymoore4470
@barrymoore4470 10 ай бұрын
Magnani starred in Pasolini's 1962 feature 'Mamma Roma', my favorite Pasolini film.
@giovanna722
@giovanna722 10 ай бұрын
@@barrymoore4470 Mine, too.
@ohsweetmystery
@ohsweetmystery 10 ай бұрын
Passolini seemed to have brilliant insights, but he also appeared to be a hypocrite. He seemed quite fashionable in all his photos and fashion is the pinnacle of consumerism: useless, classist, and ego-driven.
@mattliamjack3293
@mattliamjack3293 9 ай бұрын
Reminds me of brave new world. Huxley must have read de sade.
@silversmoke6
@silversmoke6 6 ай бұрын
Salo is definitely much tamer than De Sade's 120 days of sodom. I had to study de sade in uni, and the material was absolutely horrifying.
@elderberry-hamster
@elderberry-hamster 10 ай бұрын
I knew right away from the title that it was Salo. That is one disturbing flick. The ending will haunt you if you never saw it before. Crazy stuff.
@Bout_TreeFiddy
@Bout_TreeFiddy 10 ай бұрын
I haven't been able to finish the film. I saw about 30mins of it over 10 years ago.
@kingy002
@kingy002 9 ай бұрын
Nothing haunting in it whatsoever.
@raptorcheesus
@raptorcheesus 9 ай бұрын
i found the ending really abrupt as in "that was it?". the gore and depravity wasnt much of an issue but it is insane to think that it was an actual movie made in 1975
@darrenstopper1806
@darrenstopper1806 4 ай бұрын
Never watched just knew of it but it was crazy that just this morning I heard the director was murder because of the film so knew what film it was before clicking also
@internetperson9121
@internetperson9121 4 ай бұрын
@kingy be careful with all that edge bro. We’re all impressed
@ethanbaker137
@ethanbaker137 10 ай бұрын
Saw somebody else comment about this but Pasolini's work should 100% be filtered through the fact that he was a pedophile. Also wild that he went to jail for blasphemy but not being a pedophile lol.
@professionalwidow
@professionalwidow 10 ай бұрын
fucking teenagers has never been considered pedophilia until like 15 years ago
@SpaceCattttt
@SpaceCattttt 6 ай бұрын
I'm not a big fan of Salo. Not because I find it shocking (it's too political for that) but because I find it too boring to deserve its grim reputation. Having said that, I applaud Pasolini for having the courage to mirror humanity's ugliest face back at society. He didn't try to sugarcoat what people are capable of, and as always, people didn't like what they saw. They demanded a scapegoat to pay for the pain and embarrassment he'd caused them with his art. So in that sense, Pasolini's murder was one of the most disgusting cases of censorship in modern times. I wish people would try to think about WHY someone would make a film like Salo before they dismiss it. And instead of being angered and outraged by it, I think it's a lot more productive and positive to learn from it and do our best to make sure that life doesn't repeat itself. By murdering a fearless artist, we only let ourselves be conquered by fear itself.
@wm.tomlinson1434
@wm.tomlinson1434 10 ай бұрын
If your assessment is correct, though the idea of his last film is abhorrent to me, his reason for making it was noble ... if you are correct. There is no beast on this earth, more beastly than he who believes, "you shall be as gods ..." for he believes all others must bow to his will.
@Syncrotron9001
@Syncrotron9001 8 ай бұрын
This guys initials are 3 Ps, what biblical number does that look like?
@zachmorley158
@zachmorley158 10 ай бұрын
What a sicko.
@K-Guam
@K-Guam 10 ай бұрын
I saw Pasolini's Salo many years ago at an independent cinema in London. For legal/censorship reasons the audience had to register as temporary 'cinema club' members in order to view the movie privately. I find it absolutely absurd that this appalling, sadistic art-house horror could be passed off a some sort of allegorical lesson on the evils of consumer capitalism. That surely was Pasolini's vanity. Pasolini's enthusiasm for de Sade's work says more about his own strange predelictions than about the exploitive nature of capitalism. Perhaps he just needed this Marxist gloss to bestow an aura of lofty political/intellectual class onto what is essentially a work of sado-masochistic porn.
@LUIS-ox1bv
@LUIS-ox1bv 9 ай бұрын
Correct!
@1mlister
@1mlister 10 ай бұрын
I spent a good 2 thirds of this video thinking "Wow this Pasolini guy really looks like Willem Dafoe"
@jeffsmith4110
@jeffsmith4110 10 ай бұрын
This all has an air of elitist BS. "Life acquires meaning at the point of death" sounds good in a boardroom or in a classroom, but really? This was a well-made mini-doc on what to me is the most uninteresting subject matter ever encountered.
@wiretapnow
@wiretapnow 10 ай бұрын
why make garbage like this? What's the pointy. The world is crazy enough to be making sick movies like this, Like Hostile and the rest of that complete crap.
@satsubatsu347
@satsubatsu347 10 ай бұрын
Much of "Salo" is bathed in classical European art symbology and that tends to be the root of the issue for MOST viewers. Do a re-watch (if you can muster it) after learning some cursory symbols and it will change much of your understanding of the film and hopefully eradicate a healthy dose of that modern re-interpretation you are parroting here.
@murkartik
@murkartik 10 ай бұрын
Could you recommend a good place to start for this?
@leovolont
@leovolont 10 ай бұрын
I think that Italian People, who cared about the reputation of Italy, killed the Movie Producer and Author that was set on embarrassing Italy the most. That sounds like the sickest movie ever made, and who exactly were the consumers that this movie was intended to milk. That Director was selling Sexual Deviance. .I can't see why the director, with all his contempt for Pandering Consumerism wouldn't have perfectly agreed with the popular impulse to kill him. Making a movie that offensive in a Traditional Society was veritable Suicide.
@reeyees50
@reeyees50 10 ай бұрын
Grow a pair, art needs tough people to appreciate it
@LUIS-ox1bv
@LUIS-ox1bv 9 ай бұрын
​@@reeyees50Nonsense.
@philfluther2713
@philfluther2713 Ай бұрын
Offensive as Socrates obviously.
@leovolont
@leovolont Ай бұрын
@@philfluther2713 Yes, if one reads the Platonic Dialogues then we have it out of Socrates's own mouth that the Citizens of Athens were quite correct in their perspective that he was in effect corrupting the Youth and sweeping in an age of Anarchism, Nihilism and Societal Ruin. Heck, are you familiar with the famous Late Medieval Debate between Saint Bernard and Abelard. In his first argument Saint Bernard asked Abelard to look at all the Faith and Idealism current in their Age, and that he should compare it to the Age of Revolution, Nihilism and Materialism that would surely ensue if Abelard had his way, even while being well meaning, but once Faith is questioned.... So Abelard recounted. He'd have been fine after that, but he got mixed up with an important man's daughter and was castrated. But, yes, I was a Philoosphy Student, and what I learned was that Philosophy has yet to come to terms with Moral Aesthetics... which means there can be an infinite number of Moral Revelotions, often Denouncing any kind of Aesthetic Based Morality .... The Civilized Impulse for Good to Triumph over Evil falls apart once a Society's Intelligensia questions whether the Good is just as Dead as they decided that God is. So, yes, Beautiful Societies have Beautiful Ethics, and just as Socrates and Abelard had recognized and confessed, Society needs to be able to protect their Ideals fromt he Ravishers. Materialism has no Morals. Materialism has no Ethics. With Scientific Game Play Theory, the Winning Strategy is always the Correct Strategy and all is fair in War.
@philfluther2713
@philfluther2713 Ай бұрын
@@leovolont 'Money makes the world go round' the world is that simple to pure materialists and to said pure materialists Pasolini and Socrates were impure materialists and so were put to death.
@brianstanziale3595
@brianstanziale3595 10 ай бұрын
I watched Salo when I was in 8th grade.. it has stuck with me forever.. I am 40 now.. very very dark.. but it should be viewed as a documentary not a fictional movie. It is also not just in Italy... hello JOHN PODESTA.. think JEFFERY EPSTIEN>
@JohnnyRico118
@JohnnyRico118 4 ай бұрын
I'm very intrigued by controversial things and very tempted to watch this movie (idk if I'm gonna be able to make it through the shit-eating parts though) but it looks like Pasolini was murdered about 3 months before Salo released, so was this movie really what got him killed, or did he already have a reputation of having strong views long prior?
@who3896
@who3896 Ай бұрын
i just watched it salo, i pray that this man sees nothing but the worst that hell has to offer 🙏🙏
@benitolazio8193
@benitolazio8193 10 ай бұрын
No Pasolini "cultural suicide " is abandoning culture , tradition and Nation . Me ne Frego!
@davidm3118
@davidm3118 10 ай бұрын
🏴‍☠🏴‍☠🏴‍☠😁
@davidfruechting7771
@davidfruechting7771 10 ай бұрын
This is an absolutely excellent analysis of Pasolini -- his life, artistry, and death -- and his brilliant, disturbing film "Salo". I watched every frame of his brutally indicting last movie when it was first released.
@ElSantoLuchador
@ElSantoLuchador 10 ай бұрын
I was in Amsterdam when Theo Van Gogh was shot, got his throat slit, and had a note pinned to his body. He's Moroccan/Dutch and made a film critical of Islam. It all happened on the street in broad daylight. Anyone that's controversial will always have enemies.
@bettyboop-xg6jo
@bettyboop-xg6jo 10 ай бұрын
Theo van Gogh was Dutch.
@MuhammedAL-Chad-nz4jx
@MuhammedAL-Chad-nz4jx 24 күн бұрын
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