Answers in Genesis fails AGAIN! | Reacteria

[@RenegadeScienceTeacher]

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[@Sacrid_Author]

Constructive criticism for next time: Could you please remove the golden borders on the left and right sides of the frame? They're a little distracting. Zooming in slightly like you did at 32:30 is a perfectly valid solution to my eyes. Literally my only complaint. Love your videos! Keep up the good work!

[@cobinbugni1652]

@@Sacrid_Authoryou can zoom in slightly on the videos if that helps too

[@iami3rian394]

13:04 um. Excuse me...? Did you just say "birds evolved from reptiles?" That's... not correct at all. Theropods were definitely not reptiles.

[@RyanP57]

Did you give Roland your second free membership? Seems like he could use some new reads while hanging out in that closet of yours.

[@WE_R_DNA]

Holy Hitch Slap Forrest! Great job with this video. It was such a fun time learning while laughing my ass off. I commend you brother. Keep up your great work.

[@aennaenn7468]

The whole "don't want to be publicly embarrassed" thing is ridiculous. Scientists excitedly tear eachother apart publicly, without mercy, and then thank eachother for it all the time.

[@marknieuweboer8099]

Creacrap can't do without a nice conspiracy theory.

[@kagemushashien8394]

Not all scientists have the same mindset.

[@connorhart7597]

​@kagemushashien8394 no two people do, but I'd go so far as to say most scientists are good scientists. And good scientists do tend to have this mindset. The entire point of science is a search for truth. Not to find THE truth, because we're constantly learning things. The point is to always be trying to change our minds about our opinions and theories (personal theories, not scientific, is what I'm specifically referring to)

[@kujojotarostandoceanman2641]

that's why they are not considered scientific duh@@kagemushashien8394

[@aennaenn7468]

@@kagemushashien8394 All good scientists do on this subject. We're all searching for more and more accurate understandings of reality, you can only do that honestly and openly by not only admitting when you're wrong, but relishing being corrected. Even if you're wrong, you tested and found out how things DON'T work, which is just as useful as discovering how something does work. And in instances where it was you or your methods that were flawed, being corrected there is even more important. It makes you a better scientist, AND let's you retest that thing again, possibly learning what wouldve been overlooked otherwise. It's useful because now other people don't have to try it that way. Science is a global team effort.

[@MonkeyAtTypewriter]

"When you start from the premise that one person's guess is just as valid as another person's evidence, you've sacrificed the ability to learn." Words to live by.

[@aazhie]

Agreed, very wise. I can agree that some concepts like "why do we exist?" Are philosophy and anyone can guess. "How do we exist" is absolutely something we have scientists showing better answers and evidence than any creationists have ever done!

[@familiarstranger9617]

Kojima, iconic last name

[@jbooks888]

You don't have any evidence!

[@dieSpinnt]

PAH! Always these evolutionists. Almost worse than those sluggish and stubborn gravitationists!

[@familiarstranger9617]

@@dieSpinnt this is almost definitely a troll

[@exactemphasis]

As a molecular biologist who has spent plenty of time staring at the human genome, there are so many genetic duplications, inversions, translocations, frameshift mutations that have been integrated into the genome. All of these create completely new information and can and do easily occur.

[@RenegadeScienceTeacher]

I had a chance to specialize in cell and molec in my undergrad but I went for organismic instead because what you folks do is insane. Hats off to you.

[@shanewilson7994]

And yet they tend to say "but that's just changes to what's already there." Which pretty much means the entire argument went right over their head.

[@fluidthought42]

And then there's epigenetic expression of those genes, which is about as complex and varying not only between generations but also across time within individuals as they interact with their environment, and those epigenetic expressions can sometimes be passed down to offspring and be inherited! It's less like a simple randomized order of a deck of cards and more like the entire expression of a game of mahjong, meaning hands and steals and trashed tiles and the center tiles and so and across every round, increased by a factor of a million times over in terms of complexity, with thousands upon thousands of different rulesets to boot.

[@Garyskinner2422]

@@RenegadeScienceTeacher Keep up the great work forrest, you are a beautiful human being. ❤️ From UK

[@stylis666]

Makes a lot of sense. I am just a physics and chemistry enthusiast who loves the abstract phenomena we see in human experience and everything between and beyond and I can't help but notice that just a handful of fundamental particles result in infinite variations in expressions of all the limited combinations that aren't present in the particles stuff is made up from. I mean, if wet water can come from quarks and electrons and so can iron, why would there be a limit in what complex molecules can do and express on a larger scale? Are all the traits of all the molecules we see already in the "DNA" of quarks and electrons? Why would different combinations of particles result in different traits in molecules that their parts don't have and why would that be impossible with DNA? Creationism is missing a limiting factor to prevent previously non existing traits from coming about from different combinations of the same particles when it comes to complex molecules like DNA, which would logically not have less but infinitely more possible expressions than just quarks and electrons have when combined with different ratios - we can list their expressions easily in a periodic table. There shouldn't even be a difference between hydrogen and uranium. Both should only have the traits of quarks and electrons if AiG is right.

[@doncomputer5931]

"Nah, I'm just kidding. They do talk about Bruno, they call him a heretic and a mystic and say it's honestly surprising it took so long for the church to kill him, though they don't condone it." Best summary of answers in genesis I've heard yet

[@Concavenator128]

Well, that isn't, strictly speaking, wrong. He was burned at the stake, among other things, for not believing in the dogmas of Trinity and Transubstantiation, which is in fact a heresy in the Catholic Church. (Still not a great reason to kill someone, not really any better than killing him for astronomical reasons.) (Of course, the AiG guys are Protestants, so for the Catholic Church they are all heretics too...)

[@Ariande796]

All I learned from my 18 years being forced to go to church is that if you make fun of bald people you get mauled by bears.

[@vinnieg6161]

I learned to not be alone with the priest, under any circumstances.

[@theapegod7668]

Damn all I learned was not to play hide and seek in church

[@arturincdh4095]

Or slapped by will smith 😂😂

[@arturincdh4095]

​@@vinnieg6161exellent advice💀

[@idontknoq4813]

I'm sorry what the fuck

[@BenYork-UBY]

All I'm hearing AiG say is "we admit evolution is happening, but we don't like it so we're calling it something else" [edit] To all the idiots in the comments. Stop coping and seething about an assumed non-existent distinction between "macro evolution" or "Micro-evolution". There is no distinction. You're basically saying that driving a car 10 meters is possible but driving 10 kilometers cant possibly happen. And that just because you can drive a car 10 meters doesn't mean that car can ever drive for 10 kilometers. The same force that can make a car move 10 meters is the same force that will make it move again and again until it clocks 300,000 on the odemeter. it's the same with "micro-evolution" "micro-evolution" is evolution. If you accept this process works, and produces smaller changes on a small time scale, you must accept it results in larger changes in a larger time scale. Those changes are accumulative and will always add up over time. It's math. unless you can demonstrably prove that micro-evolution must arbitrarily stop functioning by some unknown force after a set amount of time for any given organism. Stop repeating your brainwashed nonsense about micro and macro evolution. It's been debunked ad nauseum and does not adhere to what we know and understand about how evolution functions

[@krismckasson]

'It's not evolution, it's just a bunch of small changes over time, and you can't breed a flying dog.' It's like the only concept of mutation he has is from the X-men, where mutants just pop out fully formed and functional wings.

[@louieberg2942]

@@krismckasson In addition they phrase this sudden intra-generational change in terms of "wanting" and "willing". As if they think that a dog just pondered its inability to fly and was distraught by it. The dog sprouted wings and off it went.

[@isaiahwilliams3515]

Come on now flying dogs? I think what you see when you think about a flying dog, is a dog with wings on its back (kinda like how dragons are depicted in fiction) but that is not wings form when it comes to nature. Wings are limbs like arms and legs. In order for dogs to get wings on its back they have to come from 6 limbed organisms, dogs came from 4 limbed organisms, wolves. And even if dogs did have wings it still would not be able to fly because it will be to heavy for its wings.

[@aazhie]

@Caleb Williams what about gliding animals? Squirrels have 4 limbs and they still managed to pop out some great methods to escape predators. They don't fly like birds. But neither did ancient bird-ancestors xD

[@neverendingparty1534]

Evolution? Don't be silly. You're doing the same thing humans have been doing for +/- 10,00 yrs: DYING - not evolving. It's totally asinine & crazy when you think about it: How did the big bang produce a rock called "earth" that cooled down w/ rain & made a "primordial soup" which magically produced life & a first cell that had systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe and reproduce, while also containing the DNA blueprints for 9 million animals, NOT TO MENTION ALL the co-existent DESIGNED bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in order in the human body and THAT SAME DESIGN seen in MILLIONS of other animals? So...............that's what you believe? A MUD PUDDLE DID IT?

[@richardgunton9564]

I love the confidence of saying ‘this is where it starts to get a little tricky for the average person.’ My man isn’t an average pleb like the rest of us.

[@Lord.Ningirsu]

Agreed ... Forrest is one of The Best true, pertinent knowledge diffuser. I hope he get opportunity to do class, live or pre registrer, accessible for everyone. He is truly inspiring, both for the human values, life principle and world view he choose live for as a human being, than for the astonishing way he send us the content of the knowledge he so generously offers us.

[@FactStorm]

The irony escapes his plebby brain lol

[@iami3rian394]

@@Lord.Ningirsu 13:04 you sure about that, bro?

[@deltadash1134]

Ah yes. the evolutionary biologist obviously wouldn’t know about evolutionary biology then the average non scientists. 😊😑

[@danietom]

@@deltadash1134 The quote is from Bible man at 8:04, not Forrest

[@wolvie1618]

I HATE how creationists like that dude will try to pull the "evolution is fiction because you cant observe it" when their belief is literally "trust me bro". Like we have a mountain of evidence to back evolution and they have none.

[@darwinjones2059]

*"Scientifically: your parents don't fuck"* was not the insult I was expecting to walk away with today, but it's going in the reservoir.

[@redmegarex]

you're adopted but science

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

@@redmegarex "By the way, you are adopted, and that's terrible."

[@tildessmoo]

The best part is, the only way to rebut it is by providing observational evidence that your parents did fuck. Aka their homemade porn.

[@mrcregg0915]

This comment solidified to me that I pay extra close attention to this video. I want to know what context this was used in lmao

[@lordfelidae4505]

​@@mrcregg0915I think it's a play on 38:50

[@johnn8795]

"When you choose to start from the premise that one person's guess is just as valid as another person's evidence, you have sacrificed the ability to learn." Is going to end up being one of my favorite quotes.

[@michaeldennis2335]

Wow, I don’t think I’ve gotten to that part yet. Fabulous quote. Copying and pasting your message into my notes app. Thanks for jotting it down!

[@andrewriley9821]

​Ok

[@silverfire01]

Yes I agree is good quote. I can never understand people that call evolution a fairy tale but accept stories like a talking serpent in the garden of Eden,lots wife being turned to a pillar of salt etc .

[@monodescarado]

Love the sentence: ‘When you choose to start with the premise that one person’s guess is just as valid as another person’s evidence, you have sacrificed the ability to learn.’ Stick it on a t-shirt

[@richiejohnson]

👍

[@lorcostridge2811]

Bit lengthy but definitely catchy

[@spencercillgore9226]

I'd buy that

[@lebawsski]

Short version:" facts don't care about your feelings."

[@HorseEater]

@@lebawsski yeah but if that’s on a shirt people will think your a Ben Shapiro fan

[@sonderfulsable]

39:16 well, maybe YOU did, but i errupted from my father's forehead, fully clad in armor

[@jenniferkorf4767]

Hello Athena

[@Ratciclefan]

What are you doing on the internet Athena

[@thesaurus9226]

The FULL ARMOUR OF GOD?

[@theonionqueen3519]

I came out of a gay lake

[@jenniferkorf4767]

It came from Gay Lagoon!

[@yegetatamiru2461]

“When you ignore all the things that prove you wrong, it’s so easy to be right”😂😂😂

[@facundovera3227]

That's basically Flat-earthers.

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

No it's not. See what I did? I was doing the thing you said but I feel like it's not clear enough as a joke so now I have to explain it and say that I actually agree. Lol.

[@danielhamid5569]

How have they not been shut down yet, there are videos of Ken making kids repeatedly chant his nonsense, brainwashing them

[@bryannig9]

That doesn’t just apply to religious people it also applies a lot to atheists too.

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

@@bryannig9 So, I don't think that's a fair evaluation. Everyone has cognitive bias. It's something that affects everyone. But the idea of skepticism is to minimize bias as much as possible, to be rigorous and logical and to believe things based on adequate evidence. We might fail but that's at least the idea. Some skeptics are better at it than others and some of them are can even be pig headed and downright stupid. But that's acting counter to the skeptical ideal. And I think you'll find that most atheists claim to simply want evidence. One can never know for sure how true that is but ideally, we're open to the idea and just want to be rigorous in our evaluation. But apologists have nothing like that at all. Apologetics is to make a defense no matter what the evidence suggests, no matter what is indicated or logical or even sensible. It's a defense at ANY and ALL cost. The ideal in religion is to be free from doubt entirely. But you can't actually have truth without doubt. Doubt is an extremely important part of an epistemology.

[@ukamikazu]

Remember folks: Apologetics is a retention tool, not a conversion tool. They're losing, that's why they're still making these pointless points. Credit to David John Wellman for the observation, whom I highly recommend.

[@gl15col]

I know; they can't keep up with scientific discovery so they just keep repeating the same old gaslighting points. Kinda sad, in a way.

[@michaelwerkov3438]

Goooood point.... so obvious, but it's so easy to get annoyed by them it's easy to overlook

[@pansepot1490]

Just because “they are losing” it doesn’t mean we should become complacent and underestimate the damage these indoctrination mills are making. There’s always new kids to indoctrinate. It’s disheartening to know that there’s parents - too many of them - who teach their children creationist “science”. Activists like Forrest do an invaluable work.

[@hankkingsley9183]

Warms my heart to see so many Xtian churches close their doors

[@VaughanMcCue]

@@hankkingsley9183 It is distressing. They would make great nightclubs, breweries or accommodation for zillions of peeps.

[@christianmeinert4538]

“I watched that whole video and all I got was bored” is such an underrated statement when talking about the comedy gold that AiG puts out

[@Lance_Langlois]

"When you choose to start from the premise that one person's guess is just as valid as another person's evidence you have sacrificed the ability to learn..." Forrest Valkai, 2023. Man, I don't know if that's an original quote but it should be written everywhere. Well said. 😁

[@batarasiagian9635]

Strongly agree. I will save this quote for future reference.

[@fmtpulmanns7593]

It's paraphrasing another cliche, I think. Something about thinking your ignorance is as good as another person's knowledge.

[@whatabouttheearth]

Get a can of spray paint and a stencil

[@SweetTreat-wl2yl]

@@fmtpulmanns7593 See: Isaac Asimov, for one.

[@Soilfood365]

I think it's from the same tree (as per @Sweet Treat12311) as Asimov's characterising of that position as '...the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is as good as your knowledge."' And I think Forrest's (perhaps unintended) implication that AIG is part of a 'Cult of Ignorance' is very much on point.

[@enderking1525]

The computer program analogy goes further once you realize that machine learning works by applying random modifications to its own code and then selecting based on results. AI is literally code that evolves.

[@phoenix0166]

We just have to hope that there’s a limit to how much they can evolve But I’m afraid that there might not be Skynet is coming y’all

[@Unapologetic.White.Man82]

​@@phoenix0166Skynet is already here...

[@drvurruct2274]

​@@phoenix0166 Right now the only thing we are teaching AI is to shitpost and make porn, so I'm not afraid. Besides, we don't have killbots for them to take control over and every one of these AI's has an Off Button and the physical inability to interface with said Off Button so it can't prevent itself from being turned off.

[@alyceblak1524]

@@drvurruct2274 I feel like your not thinking of the literal flying death machines the us military keeps in their hangers...

[@norrecvizharan1177]

@Insultedyeti712 And in such situations, it'd be just as simple as installing failsafe mechanisms and programs, be it hardware or software, that can prevent them from running amok. That or hardcoding them to where they have specific guidelines that cannot be changed whatsoever. Preferably a combination of both, but either way, we just have to not be completely braindead about it to ensure there's no real "machine vs people" scenario. Worst that can happen is more jobs being taken by AI, but usually that opens up other trades.

[@michaelchesnut865]

Evolution is just "It's not a bug, it's a feature," but repeated millions of times.

[@SamanthaLaurier]

So Skyrim?

[@DarkAlkaiser]

Definitely billions, probably trillions of times even lol Skyrim is the greatest evolution simulator for sure.

[@Salamander_falls]

@@DarkAlkaiser [Spore has entered the chat]

[@DarkAlkaiser]

@@Salamander_falls very fun game, not norlt at all actually like evolution lol really wish ea hadn't murdered that series

[@cosmic2750]

That confirms something we’ve known all along: Todd Howard is our one true god.

[@wildhorses1339]

the creationist guy not making much sense but you gotta admit his outfit is fire

[@davecannabis]

yeah but isn't it a bit like putting lipstick on a pig?

[@bork7817]

​@davecannabis *'Just because a fire outfit is worn by a pig, it doesn't make the fit not fire'* -Sun Tzu or something idk

[@bcwest619]

Reacteria is such a great series. Because every time I see it I'm reminded of the first one when Forrest made a JOKE about calling it Reacteria, then everyone made him call it that. It's beautiful.

[@aazhie]

Ha ha, that's great. I think a lot of jokes and punsend up being pretty great, myself xD

[@tonycardone990]

That's not how it really happened. He never put those letters in that order making a new word and title for the channel. God must have created that word and gave it to him because those letters were never previously arranged in that order, therfore it couldn't exist until it was created by God. Didn't you listen to anything that dipshit, I mean AIG said? Remember we can't let what makes sense and there is proof of keep us from believing in someone or something we can't see or prove exists.

[@tartarus1478]

“That is a level of misplaced confidence I hope I can never understand.” - well said

[@gumbihilt1333]

Very well said, though I suspect the irony is lost.

[@americanxlove]

“Oops’d their way to success” is literally my entire job history as a software developer. Well, maybe not 100%, but an unnervingly high percentage for sure.

[@dwm1156]

I can’t count how many times making a change in code had either catastrophic results in what appeared to be completely unrelated areas of operation, and conversely, seemingly miraculous improvements in performance. Post mortem analysis would usually reveal the underlying mechanism, if time permitted, but more or less boiled down to one thing - unintended consequences. It’s easier to analyze when coding close to the hardware, like assembly languages, the layers of higher languages only add to the complexity of errors. Back in the day, knowing these hacks made you a hacker. The meaning has changed, now we have code hacks, game hacks, security and life hacks, everybody hacks. Evolution is just life hacking the universe.

[@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself]

More mistakes ==> more learning.

[@americanxlove]

@@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself As much as I dislike Facebook and Mark Zuck, I do think he was on to something with the "fail fast" thing.

[@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself]

@@americanxlove It's like the old baseball analogy: swing the bat enough times, and you'll get homeruns.

[@AusSP]

I guess that's why they call them code monkeys. "Infinite monkeys", after all...

[@nerdyerror8390]

I’m a Christian and I’m really religious but I still believe in science and evolution 3:57

[@marknieuweboer8099]

Even in the USA most christians do.

[@buttercat1331]

Single cell organism here, this video just made me feel more confident about myself. other organisms used to pick on me for my lack of brains, or any organs as a matter of fact, but seeing your videos that show I am still somehow smarter than some fully developed overly evolved fish makes me feel a bit more confident about my skills Thank you very much, keep up the good work!

[@uninspired3583]

Unicellular lives matter

[@adrianmetzler2523]

This comment is gold

[@FoodNerds]

You have won the Internet today!

[@FoodNerds]

@@uninspired3583 Yes they do!

[@andreasgkionakis1892]

covid be like am I a joke to u

[@Ratciclefan]

I love how they're like "Darwin couldn't have known this thing, so he's automatically wrong even if it was found out eventually and corroborates with evolution"

[@Ratciclefan]

45:31 - Breathings in Genesis

[@jounisuninen]

Nothing corroborates evolution. Evolution is simple like all fairy tales. That's why gullible people get fooled by it so easily. It is easier to just believe in a slow "step by step by step" anatomical transformation than to start examining how it could be genetically possible. Richard Dawkins knows this ignorance and uses it unabashedly. Evolutionists are greatly helped by the misleading concepts of "micro evolution" and "macro evolution", while in reality "micro evolution" means just intraspecific adaptative variation or subspecies. "Macro evolution" means nothing, because there is no evolution.

[@jdevlin1910]

They do despise Darwin wow

[@pickles224]

It’s like saying that Galileo observed the moons of Jupiter, but since he couldn’t actually send probes there to take pictures of the moons like NASA does now, those moons can’t be real.

[@ann18o96]

Ooooh, does that count as a fallacy fallacy?

[@ExperimenturalVideos]

What's truly embarrassing is, this IS tired. I am 36 years old. Through my child/teen years, these were *the exact* arguments they tried to train me to throw out, right down to the dog analogies, or it all being deleterious, etc. That is to say, like, late 90s I was hearing this from my mom and private christian school. And they're still fkin' trotting it out like it hasn't been disproven a hundred times.

[@marknieuweboer8099]

Late 90s is nothing. Try late 1890s.

[@daftwulli6145]

I always found ID the most embarrassibng part. So many decades ago there was a trial where a judge decided that creationism is undeniably religious in nature and not scientific. So it could not be taught in public schools since that would violate the separation of church and state So decades later they had this ingenious thought : well let us just rebrand it as intelligent design and get it into schoolrooms that way. We just have to claim ID is totally different then creationism and is scientific in nature. So theree was another trial, and they presented a book to prove that ID is totally different. The only problem with that plan was that all they did was replace the word creationism with ID, and the other side could undeniably prove this since they did such a bad job that in several cases they forgot to delete the rest of the word creationism so the book said IDeationism.

[@jb888888888]

@@daftwulli6145 _Edwards v. Aguillard,_ 1986 and _Kitzmiller v. Dover_ 2005. I'm -old- middle aged so that doesn't seem "many decades" to me, YMMV.

[@arturincdh4095]

​@@daftwulli6145 have you ever heard or read something so embarassingly ignorant that it makes you feel actual physical pain?

[@daftwulli6145]

@@arturincdh4095 No not feeling physical pain, but I felt embarrassed to even be the same species then the person claiming this before

[@greybunnie]

The emperor's new clothes analogy they make is such projection. "People don't want to believe in God, because it makes them look foolish." More rather, "I don't want to change my beliefs in God despite all the evidence, because that would mean I wasted so much time and energy believing and convincing others to believe, that if I changed my mind now, I'd look foolish." It's the sunk cost fallacy. There's nothing wrong with being wrong. You aren't stupid. Convincing yourself that your ego is attached to your intelligence is what makes you look like a fool.

[@albertleibold1415]

You probably never heard of the functions of a genome.

[@greybunnie]

@albertleibold1415 That's what you took away from this?

[@albertleibold1415]

@@greybunnie: You obviously believe that the genome of a unicellular organism can turn into the genome of a human being in the course of some billion years.

[@MCPBA000]

The comparison you made for walking a few feet being observable and 2+2=4 being acceptable, but seeing someone a mile away later or seeing a sum of 10 as impossible without magic is spot on. Excellent video Forrest!

[@ctwentysevenj6531]

A comparison to a creationist, 2+2=5.

[@danielpaulson8838]

@@ctwentysevenj6531 Wouldn't a creationist math be 0+0=infinity

[@andrewolson5471]

Every time a Creationist uses the word "Kind" when talking about organism classification, I want to pull out my hair.

[@marknieuweboer8099]

Better pull out théír hair.

[@charleybarley914]

or the terms they use for orgasm classification too! lol I'm usually already bald by the time they start talking about "kind".

[@Darren_McGovern-ROF]

You should be bald by now.

[@andrewolson5471]

@@Darren_McGovern-ROF I already am. LOL

[@NayBuster]

That's called malding.

[@ARoll925]

Calvin chastising anyone else for their "far fetched beliefs" is one of the funniest things I have ever heard

[@jameshall1300]

Creationists specialize in projection and hypocrisy

[@jjphank]

Calvinism is false, so you’ll go to hell based on your own free will choices says the second and fourth chapters of the Bible - mind you, they are foundational chapters!

[@FactStorm]

Irony is always present when engaging with apologist nuts

[@jjphank]

@@FactStorm You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind! So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, so what should you do concerning the Bible? Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off he’s wrong but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth! Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny! Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers! God authored the Bible! DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication? 1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion! One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“! Psalm 139 is about the human body!

[@uncleanunicorn4571]

Pfft... my talking donkey says atheist beliefs are far-fetched.

[@gatorboymike]

I like the way Answers in Genocide's argument is basically, "No one can ever really know anything for certain, and that's how we know everything for certain."

[@deljewell1]

Another example of Autocorrect Making words worse

[@Soken50]

@@deljewell1 better* Have you read the literal words of the bible ? it's a slaughterfest

[@nwut]

amazing pun/typo

[@mattschumacher4581]

@@deljewell1 *making words better

[@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself]

Which translates to, "We think you are stupid, so we can get away with lying to you."

[@Ozzyman200]

You never get scientists telling us evolution didn't happen. So many well-funded creationists, and still they can't find a flaw in evolution that can be solved by creationism.

[@nathansells3772]

I was binging forest valkai content last night, and now there's new stuff this morning! As someone who absolutely loves biology and also grew up pretty religious, these videos are so therapeutic for me

[@shaereub4450]

Getting out is like leaving a relationship that you didn't realize was abusive and manipulative until after you left.

[@apophenic_]

Hey there! Same! I'm a 7th generation pastors kid, was a youth pastor myself for 7 years. I left about 7 years ago (all completely coincidental) and have since been trying to make up for lost brain.

[@yoshi6421]

@@apophenic_ Better late than never!

[@yoshi6421]

Also, I feel the same, OP. Same situation too.

[@whatabouttheearth]

Check out his 3 and 1/2 hour 'A Brief History of Everything' live lecture video. It's a few vids in the list after his Light of Evolution videos kzbin.info/aero/PLgRoK-eyLjolmC7Hp1wmaNeyAR4wRlzt8

[@MasamiPhoenix]

Hi! Computer programmer here! One of my favorite personal encounters was in a game where a typo caused somr random cards to have no image. The card still had all the values, could be played like it normally could, you just couldn't see what card it was before you played it. I fixed the "mutation" in my code. But I kept how it was done, so I could do it on purpose to create a rather unique game mechanic.

[@tranngockha6562]

That is so cool

[@jackwastakenx2]

So Natural Selection *does* happen in programming (the programmer”s taste being what’s selected for I guess)!

[@MasamiPhoenix]

@@jackwastakenx2 exactly. There was a mutation (bug in the code) that made it more fit for the environment (more fun to play)

[@wesbeuning1733]

Great point!

[@jounisuninen]

Hi, Computer programmer! You made an interesting comparison, which I guess was meant to prove something of evolution. In fact your example tells of variation, not evolution - unless your computer created a new and structurally different computer 🙂 The core axiom of evolution theory: "All life on Earth stems from a Universal Common Ancestor (UCA or First Cell)". No scientifically valid evidence for UCA has never been found. Science doesn't know mutations that would’ve transformed the basic anatomical structure (body plan) of any given organism. All such mutations have been non-structural like sickle-cell mutation, lactose tolerance, wingless flies, antibiotic resistant bacteria etc. They are in fact variations due to loss of genes or mutated genes. No new body plans - no evolution. Fish can make adaptive variations but they can never become anything else than fish. Amphibians can make adaptive variations but they can never become anything else than amphibians. Reptiles can make adaptive variations but they can never become anything else than reptiles. Mammals can make adaptive variations but they can never become anything else than mammals. There is no scientifically valid fossil evidence to show anything else, neither any successful empirical tests in laboratories. Variation does not bring about evolution because variation happens in meiosis when the parents' genes form new combinations. Follows gastrulation where the Hox genes control and guide the building of the embryo. Scientists have tried to mutate the Hox genes to create new body sructures for the embryo to create evolution - all in vain. Nature has exactly the same problem - variations happen but evolution is a genetic impossibility.

[@Karla-Fae]

I need to see Forrest tackle the "animals that defy evolution" and why those animals don't in fact defy evolution

[@b.a.r.c.l.a.y]

Oh my goodness I watched that dvd too. Gonna be straight, that thing was the reason why the Bombardier Beetle and The Cuttlefish are my favorite animals now lmao.

[@neverendingparty1534]

Evolution? Don't be silly. You're doing the same thing humans have been doing for +/- 10,00 yrs: DYING - not evolving. It's totally asinine & crazy when you think about it: How did the big bang produce a rock called "earth" that cooled down w/ rain & made a "primordial soup" which magically produced life & a first cell that had systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe and reproduce, while also containing the DNA blueprints for 9 million animals, NOT TO MENTION ALL the co-existent DESIGNED bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in order in the human body and THAT SAME DESIGN seen in MILLIONS of other animals? So...............that's what you believe? A MUD PUDDLE DID IT?

[@cameronwilsey9334]

@@b.a.r.c.l.a.y Bombardier I think I get, but how is a cuttlefish supposed to defy evolution?

[@b.a.r.c.l.a.y]

​@@cameronwilsey9334 If i remember correctly it was about their camouflage abilities. Nice pfp btw.

[@Houtblokje]

@@cameronwilsey9334 By being cool.

[@JoeyP946]

"animals can change over time, but that doesn't prove evolution" but... that's literally evolution? xd

[@ViridianCrisis7]

So glad I stuck around for the post-credits scene. Really condensed that guys argument into all it’s well supported points.

[@mrapistevist]

🤣🤣🤣

[@mtbee9641]

Thanks for saying that or I would have missed it!

[@xen0bia]

Hot air?

[@KookyPan42]

Now i finally know where the term mouthbreather comes from....

[@irrelevant_noob]

45:29

[@NeosAvias]

YO, BABE, NEW REACTERIA JUST DROPPED! Hell yeah! Boosting for the algorithm because you deserve all the support you get, Forrest.

[@theunknownonetuo2033]

My memory is terrible, so honestly, I actually appreciate them having the same arguments over and over again, so Forrest can explain it to me multiple times too!

[@Chris-hx3om]

I have excellent memory retention (everybody tells me that 🙂), and what I like to think of as a good grasp of most of the sciences, but trying to remember the arguments to use against these fundamentalist creationists is not easy. Easier to just tell them they're idiots and walk away, like flat-Earthers, moon landing deniers and anti-vaxxers.

[@brianmyers7062]

Same! 😂

[@notinla]

"Two things that aren't the same thing aren't the same thing" Aristotle would have a field day with this one

[@Science_Always_Wins]

So happy for new Forrest content. Most amazing science communicator. Love you Forrest.

[@21centuryhippie61]

So true!! I’m always ecstatic anytime he posts because he’s so engaging and fun!

[@SapphireVirgo]

@@21centuryhippie61 that's because he's a good person with a deep love of learning ,we need people like him as he makes this world a better place . he wants us learn and be the best versions of ourselves ,he like many others like him want the best for us and future generations, I have nothing but respect for this man .

[@humanaffectation9021]

Absolutely agree. I want to see Forrest and Cara Santa Maria in a regular show teaching me all the things I need to know about science and the natural world. That would be a dream come true.

[@milanorichie]

Yes!!! He's so awesome. The dude pretty much saved my life (his vids helped me out of fundamentalist Christianity).

[@humanaffectation9021]

@@milanorichie this is awesome to hear!

[@Headphones992]

I love how Answers in Genesis so frequently presents the idea of a gene pool like it's a Baskin Robbins where they only have so many flavors on hand to choose from 😂

[@SilverMKI]

And over time that icecream decays so you can't eat it any more, and the recipes get lost so you can't make the flavours any more, etc... because mutations are only harmful? :D

[@CrazyGamebino]

And even worse is that they aren’t the only ones you have dq homemade and ice cream varieties of snacks like snickers i’m almost certain that you can find different flavors in different baskin robins if you’re actively looking

[@youtubespag]

Not to be that guy but like A T G C And sometimes U. Like I'm thinking the relevant proteins are finite. But yeah the combos are quite impressively vast

[@youtubespag]

@Quentin Cavell I feel like I said the combos were impressively vast. Yeah I agree with you.

[@unicyclist97]

I only understood this comment because of Ant Man

[@Pigaroulettes]

The playing card analogy is so great because Bicycle sell "Seconds" decks, which are decks with slight anomalies during the replication process. His analogy is so perfect to prove him wrong.

[@tacticallemon7518]

Well, you’re ignoring the fact that he doesn’t want to admit being wrong

[@jounisuninen]

"slight anomalies during the replication process." ... do not make evolution i.e. new life forms from existing life forms

[@Pigaroulettes]

@@jounisuninen That's the thing, they do. Because slight modifications can cause HUGE differences, when we're talking about genes. If two populations accumulate these modifications and are isolated so they can't share them, they're gonna grow more and more different over time. And that's how you get new species.

[@LineOfThy]

@@jounisuninenthat’s literally how new life forms are made XD

[@hedgehog3180]

@@jounisuninen Explain how protein synthesis works if you want your opinion to be taken seriously.

[@Mehki227]

Everything these people say is exactly the reason to not believe any of their creation nonsense. Everything! They are literally arguing against themselves... And then have to pull out their one nonsense card - faith. That's all they got and they're desperate.

[@cursedcat6467]

“Are whales bears?” Made me imagine a fake Russian video of a man fighting a whale and winning

[@traildude7538]

I got the mental image of Putin riding a whale.....

[@FoodNerds]

😂😂😂😂

[@FoodNerds]

I was here for how the Masons killed off the unicorns. Because the guy from answers in genesis is obviously a whack job. And I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he believed that the Masons killed off the unicorns.

[@hifibrony]

I thought Russians were bears on unicycles. I DID see it on “Family Guy.” 😎

[@Andrew-tf8jt]

No one's a rich fat man and the other is a gay fat man.

[@DgtlRnn042]

36:58 "Anyone who thinks that random changes to computer code can't make better software has never talked to an actual programmer" I bust a gut because it is so true! "I got it working!" "How?" "If I knew I'd tell you."

[@Mostlyharmless1985]

The number of comments that read “something magic happens here and it’s stupid and hacky and it shouldn’t even work but removing these lines breaks something on line 2375 and I don’t know why.” And it’s from like, 1974 and line 2375 is far and away depreciated but now that magic line breaks something new and interesting if you remove it so it stays there for another 50 years. It’s actually pretty apt for evolution in that way.

[@jounisuninen]

@@Mostlyharmless1985 A new computer was evolved?

[@Mostlyharmless1985]

@@jounisuninen yes. Complete with vestigial structures. Every modern PC boots up thinking it’s an intel 8080 from the 70s that initial state is used to bootstrap the EUFI and take over basic functions. Software is also evolved using literally evolution through neural networks. Computer software is rife with code that doesn’t serve a purpose or code that has been commented out. Deletions and insertions abound, and code that was intended for one purpose gets used for another purpose. Now, if you are asking if computers fuck, no, they don’t.

[@cerberaodollam]

​@@Mostlyharmless1985 ....yet.

[@anotherearth8142]

You're lying.. messing up a program code can cause program crash.. if its true then tell me whats that software you just made better by randomly changing codics?

[@DataRae-AIEngineer]

I like how he says "that would be chaos". As a mathematician, I must say... NATURE LOVES CHAOS. Fractals and chaos theory are everywhere in nature all by themselves without God intervening in the thing. Why do Christians hate chaos so much? Fractals and chaos are beautiful.

[@wolvie1618]

They hate it because it goes against their beliefs and they hate anything that proves them wrong. They dont like doubting themselves.

[@sebastiankalstrom237]

Breathing is such a fascinating thing. I really appreciated the edit at the end of the video because it just highlights how awesome it is that we all breathe.

[@PabloSanchez-qu6ib]

Basically they are saying "ok, I concede you can take a step but you can't walk 10 kilometers"

[@nameofuser5743]

*walks away to prove a point (and also to avoid AIG)*

[@stevetheduck1425]

'A journey of one thousand miles begins with one step'. A non-Christian philosophy.

[@hankboog462]

I actually started laughing when i saw the dihybrid cross skin color thing. Trying to predict skin color with a simple dihybrid cross is like trying to prepare soufflé using a campfire and a hatchet

[@lucyla9947]

Only reason it's taught like that at lower levels is because it's simple to understand.

[@sanguillotine]

The difference is that I could believe that someone has made soufflés with a campfire and hatchet

[@MinaOmega]

It didn't actually get to understand the first part. But you had me at souffle, campfire, and hatchet!

[@NitroIndigo]

There was a young-Earth creationist book - I think it was by Raw Matt? - that has a very wrong Punnett square about human skin colour. Most of the cells have allele-representing letters that aren't in the corresponding row and column.

[@MeDecade]

"It's like when a child invents a new game on the playground and then constantly comes up with new rules that you didn't know about so that they can't lose." He just described Calvinball.

[@stevetheduck1425]

- or any other product of an under-developed mind. Wow.

[@robertabarnhart6240]

Yup. Also the card game Fizzbin, from Beta Antares IV. Although to be fair, Fizzbin had intentionally confusing and contradicting rules to distract the guards who were holding Kirk and Spock captive.

[@captainzoltan7737]

"yeah my magical invisible amour actually deflects your bullets straight back at you so you die not me "

[@wesbeuning1733]

Yes, except in the case of Creationists, no one else is actually playing with them, and Calvin needs medication because he is causing property damage.

[@ILikeMyPrivacytbt]

Calvinball, I get that reference. I was a child of the 90's.

[@gigan2444]

Every time someone at aig says "kind" it takes a day off of my lifespan. It's an obvious deception because there is absolutely no way by now they haven't heard the criticism of that term.

[@ethannelson8592]

I don’t understand how Forrest doesn’t get hella depressed having to deal with this bullshit all the time😭😭😂😂 It’s insane

[@aaron2891]

I’m guessing part of it is that he didn’t grow up with Young Earth Creationism like many of his viewers did (including me). And he gets tons of validation for his helpful work in his comments sections.

[@Altom941]

Because he can see AiG and other apologetics being driven back ever so slightly over time. He can see them giving ground step by step. He is clearly passionate about spreading knoeledge and combating misinformation and he can see progress being made.

[@satanofficial3902]

*GASP!!!!!!* It's *SEXIST!!!* to use the term "bullsh*t" when she cows go poop, too. And, it's also *SPECIESIST!!!* because non-bovine animals also expel digestion remnants through their anal orifice. In the future, instead of saying "bullsh*t", everyone should please say "Non-gender-specific non-species-specific animal excrement". And instead of using "BS", please use "NSNSAE". Thank you for your cooperation. 🐮 "Mooooo!"

[@DoloresLehmann]

Well, I guess it's because he's so damn passionate about what he does. The very word passion means enthusiasm paired with the will and ability to suffer for your cause.

[@aazhie]

@@Altom941 over a long enough timeline, we win

[@Tallenn]

"Answers in Genesis is a reputable organization". Dude! You almost made me spit my coke all over the screen!

[@spoodlydoodler3552]

anytime I hear the words "evolutionist" or "kind" when it comes to evolution, I tune it out, they obviously don't understand what it is, as this video so clearly demonstrates. Thank you Forrest

[@traildude7538]

Isn't it bizarre that they can't even use a word from the Bible to mean what it actually meant in Hebrew? That's what boggles my mind; the bozos on their bus not only mangle science, they mangle the Bible itself and they don't even know it! I always think of a friend in university who said, "I hear stupid people. They're everywhere, and they don['t even know they're stupid".

[@wesbeuning1733]

To those. Weirdo cultist even their own supposed beliefs are nothing but fodder to roll over and burn on their twisted path to worship themselves.

[@dawncamina7309]

Education IS winning over indoctrination....because of people like you.Thank you

[@waffles3629]

I love the vibe of "Angry scientist debunks stupidity"

[@maynardmckillen9228]

"...and all of its works, and all of its false promises, and all of its evil ways..." 😂

[@Sarisjackoviak1815]

Lol​@MrbaldRevell

[@wouldlovemyownname]

snarky, fearful evolution loving scientist

[@robertkadrich3107]

@@wouldlovemyownname?

[@LucyTheBox]

Definitely my favorite "creationist debunking youtuber" because I feel like you're actually taking the time to listen to the arguments of the people you cover, understand what they're saying and then give a rational explanation addressing the meat of what they said.

[@tricksterjoy9740]

Gotta understand how and why they lack the understanding of basic science. What led to it, and how to prevent it in the future.

[@diarmuidkuhle8181]

In that case, you're gonna like Logicked. Check him out.

[@lulumolloy]

There's a famous linguist, John Swales, who put out a paper with an arguement and when no one fought him on it for like 20 years, he decided to do it himself. Scientists love some good arguing.

[@jeannettehope670]

I do that all the time with my research (and I don't wait 20 years). I ask myself what have I got wrong and look for contradictions to my first conclusion. I have sent drafts to others, saying 'this seems to good to be true, can you see where I've gone off track?'

[@willthecameraman]

It's the end of 2023. Ive been watching a bunch of your videos for the last couple weeks. Really good. Thank you for the end of the year gifts.

[@tedweird]

I like the phrase "the story of evolution" because it exposes how he doesn't have a leg to stand on, being that all he has is a creation *story*

[@justanotheropinion5832]

Same reason they keep saying “atheism is a religion, it requires faith”. They can’t possibly compete with facts so that have no choice but to try make it seem as silly is theism.

[@AlbertaGeek]

@@justanotheropinion5832 I always liked: "Atheism is a religion like 'bald' is a hair colour."

[@justanotheropinion5832]

@@AlbertaGeek never heard that before I love it! ✌️ from northern Ontario

[@neverendingparty1534]

Creation is a scientific fact. The problem with your atheist religion is manifold. First of all, you have no INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS anywhere in your atheist cult (big bang, abiogenesis, evolution) that can create design the human being and 10 million DIFFERENT species. ALSO, your atheist cult has no INTELLIGENT source that can combine (in an intelligent orderly arrangement) the elements that are used to create our cells or cells of any other biological life form. It’s like having all the parts of a machine laying around and there’s no intelligent agent to intelligently arrange them - building the machine with the proper DNA coded blueprint for the human being or 10 million DIFFERENT species of life. These facts prove that the religion of atheism is totally absurd. It’s impossible that G0D doesn’t exist. G0D is REQUIRED to exist, else we or nothing else would exist. It’s not just high-complexity/high function design that proves our divine G0D; it's also the *INTELLIGENT ARRANGEMENT* of that high-complexity in a high function design to produce a clear purposeful processed outcome. The co-dependent structures of the digestive system (mouth, teeth, tongue, epiglottis, throat, stomach, stomach acid, small intestine, large intestine, anus) certainly can't come from "NOTHING" or a mud puddle. This is where you atheists say "I don't know.... and well......uh.....it evolved" LOL. Evolution? Don't be silly. You're doing the same thing humans have been doing for +/- 10,00 yrs: DYING - not evolving. It's totally asinine & crazy when you think about it: How did the big bang produce a rock called "earth" that cooled down w/ rain & made a "primordial soup" which magically produced life & a first cell that had systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe and reproduce, while also containing the DNA blueprints for 9 million animals, NOT TO MENTION ALL the co-existent DESIGNED bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in order in the human body and THAT SAME DESIGN seen in MILLIONS of other animals? So...............that's what you believe? A MUD PUDDLE DID IT?

[@AlbertaGeek]

@@neverendingparty1534 That was a lot of words just to say "I don't have a reasonable argument."

[@abqchris2]

Just did biology homework with my daughter. We learned that mutations can add, take away, or replace letters in DNA, and that it’s not just degrading or subtracting the genetic code. She’s going to laugh so hard when i show it to her 😂

[@boianko]

Another fool duped by the lies of evolutionists! Shame on her! /s

[@Madokaexe]

All creationists can be refuted by using elementary school biology books, your daughter is on the right track!

[@xxrapidfirexx08]

Your daughter is unironically now more educated in biology than like 50% of the county 😂

[@polyurethanesealant]

As a former Seventh-Day Adventist and follower of Walter Veith, I can say that this was truly eye-opening. I remember fully accepting his ridiculous ideas like they were fact, but it's been so long now that I had stopped thinking about it. It took someone repeating his ramblings back to me all these years later to make me realize just how absurd it all really was and how much of a fool I was for buying into it. All I needed was someone with a different point of view; now I have a whole new perspective. I can't thank you enough!

[@evablessp23]

The Bible did say there would be a great falling away before the end of days. I'm sure you hear a small voice beckoning you to return home.

[@polyurethanesealant]

@@evablessp23 I get plenty of beckonings to return home. I don't need any more from you, thank you. I don't have to listen to someone claiming to know my own thoughts better than I do.

[@azzy9293]

​@@polyurethanesealant stay strong man. The indoctrinated don't want you to be your own person, i for one gotta give you props for staying true to yourself

[@polyurethanesealant]

Thanks man, I appreciate your support. Everyone needs a community of like-minded people to be there for them. Yet another way Forrest Valkai has helped in my journey.

[@bernierasmusson9257]

​@@evablessp23The bible says lots of stupid shit.

[@axuwu6939]

I’ve only seen three creationalist debunking videos, but I’m already developing an irrational anger reaction to hearing the word “kind”

[@albertleibold1415]

That is the kind of person you are.

[@jeremyhewitt1952]

I once was involved in a super secret experiment trying to blend human and animal DNA... everything was going great and we were convinced that we were on the precipice of something extraordinary. Then the farm owner arrived so we pulled out and got back to work.

[@aussiemerican750]

Are you perhaps Welsh?

[@earthsanchez5816]

im suprised how long it took for me to understand this joke. guess im still above water

[@tesmith47]

Omg, ............... Lol

[@hungryburger1170]

Furry science

[@DreadEnder]

You know the Welsh sheep thing happened because it was illegal to steal sheep but just immoral to mate with them. So if a sheep thief got caught, they just say they were giving the sheep a massage

[@joshuapayne3937]

As someone who's more of a DIY hobbyist programmer, I can at least attest to how even moving could around and rearranging it without changing any of the syntax can drastically improve the functionality of your code. And yeah, I've accidentally written really good code before. Accidents aren't inherently bad.

[@roscius6204]

First I thought, yep, I can imagine that could happen. Turns out it's common place. AiG don't research that sort of stuff, they just say what they think people will unquestioningly believe.

[@Nava9380]

It's not a bug, it's a feature .

[@rbaxter286]

I am continually amazed by the insight shown by my PREVIOUS self, but for which I have no explanation aside from 'accidental brilliance'. I've even started replying to myself in a thread only to realize it was me on another account!

[@scottlarson1548]

I was a software developer for twenty five years. I assume what he was referring to was changing the code to narrow down where the bug is thereby accidentally fixing the code without knowing why. You can see that happen all the time on KZbin channels with people trying to fix old computer hardware.

[@morganwhaley9119]

39:29 I can totally imagine Ken Ham trying to defend himself in criminal court by using the "were you there?" argument when presented with evidence that he committed a crime.

[@yoshi6421]

I have literally been told in a different video's comment section that evidence for a murder and evidence for evolution is a false equivalence, because one is empirical, and the other is.... not? Somehow? Lol

[@leothenomad5675]

Darkmatter2525 did a video on that premise but using Ken Ham as the victim of the crime. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y326YWmalttqgaM

[@Catalin-Stefan]

He will gonna say "only god knows that I didn't killed that person" while being escorted to the car and scream "they try to lock the voice of god" and other stuff like this.

[@jb888888888]

DarkMatter2525 has a video where Ken's house is broken into and there's all this evidence, but nobody witnessed what happened. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y326YWmalttqgaM

[@stevenpike7857]

It reminds me of applying his logic to other scientific "theories" (as they misuse the word). "The Copernican theory is just a theory. The Bible tells us the Earth is unmovable and set on pillars and that everything else revolves around the Earth. Scientists are just afraid to admit it and are pressured into believing this THEORY the sun is the center so they aren't embarrassed."

[@andyspillum3588]

It is truly wild how immune to irony they are, I think they take the fact that they do or think something horrible, then that's proof that everyone does it, cuz they're not horrible people, there's no way they are wrong/horrible/on the wrong side, they're the "godly ones"

[@Allestya666]

A far more accurate version of the playing card analogy would be if one had a deck of magic the gathering cards. Let's say they have 300 cards total to deal with and they're dealt some consistent number of cards each time, and in between each and every deal a computer program reprints all the cards. Every once in a while that program makes a mistake. Usually that mistake is just a typo like leaving "e" off of "the", or replacing a letter that doesn't actually make the word unreadable. However some percentage of those mistakes will be verT645r eaningful. Like (if you know the game then this will really make sense.) A 3 manna card that says "draw 7 cards then destroy a artifact." undergoes a translocation event where it becomes "draw a card, then destroy 7 artifact. If the opponent was playing an artifact deck then that card would give a major advantage. Or here's an even better example. Let's say a 10 manna ( that's the cost to play it if you don't know the game.) Has a point mutation or deletion, that turns 10 into 1, or a 1 manna goblin becomes 9 manna. Any of these "mutations could have a major impact on how the game goes. So it's easy to see how over 5 years of playing a game every day could end up with one person playing a deck that is exponentially more powerful than the one that they started with, and the decks that ended up with the faulty cards would just be removed. Theres a few more things I need to add to make this as accurate as possible, but that's the analogy that's been whizzing through my head lately. Hope someone enjoyed it.

[@synthetic240]

Great comment. Kinda related, but I've heard that M:tG is also Turing Complete. With the right cards you can run algorithms to complete calculations.

[@lordfelidae4505]

That’s actually a really good analogy.

[@gregsvlogshow]

The biggest problem with creationist is that they will tell you a bunch of B.S. with smugness and confidence. It's not the B.S. part that gets under my skin, it's how they are saying it as if they are doing some kind of "gotcha".

[@DrachenGothik666]

Or worse, like they think they're doing us a fucking _favour_ feeding us this BS. I'd like to go through my life without people trying to shove their dimwitted faery tales down my throat, thanks.

[@daveg-Vancouver_Island]

They’re literally teaching that crap to kids, should be child abuse to indoctrinate them like that!

[@Mehki227]

Exactly... It's the smugness that burns my buns!😂

[@wolvie1618]

Theyre confidently incorrect. Its the confidence that makes it dangerous, people are more likely to believe you if you sound like you believe what you say

[@dandromeda1]

​@@daveg-Vancouver_Island I completely agree, it should absolutely be considered child abuse to indoctrinate kids into anything.

[@NightOfTheRevolution]

17:17 I like how the hippo was just like "Nah we good"

[@kolbysorensen3553]

As a recent exmormon learning about how evolution actually works is amazing, thank you

[@Chris-hx3om]

You may have already seen it, but there's a great channel called 'GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic'. He's basically a fundamentalist Baptist who went to university to learn as much as he could about biology (and everything that entails, like evolution) so he had the tools to 'convince' non-believers that evolution and the current understanding of biology is wrong, and why religion got it right... He's an atheist now, but his journey from the dark side was long and painful. He's well worth a sub. Great guy.

[@Drghost1235]

​@@Chris-hx3om I gotta agree with you. I never got to see him at his religious stage, but his pure facts are always informational and just as good as this youtuber's.

[@benhockley]

I was flinching whenever the AiG guy says "kind", because I know it's inevitable the direction he's going.

[@charleybarley914]

watch the Ken Hamm Bill Nye debate and take a drink every time Hamm says "kind" if u wanna get black out drunk.

[@danielanderson1681]

Hi Forrest, I'm currently a biology student in Australia in the field of conservation and wildlife biology. I'm really enjoying your content, partly because it has helped me understand some of the concepts I've learned a bit better, but also I admire the way you're educating people with compassion, which is due in part to your great passion for biology. Think I have bit of man crush, thank you for your excellent work and please keep going.

[@Teatur_]

“Molecules to man, evolution.” Tell me you don’t know the difference between abiogenesis and evolution, without telling me you don’t know the difference between abiogenesis and evolution

[@marknieuweboer8099]

They don't want to understand the difference with physics either - to many of them the Big Bang is also part of evolution.

[@Mars-ev7qg]

Not only did Darwin know a lot about selective breeding, but he actually did it himself with pigeons.

[@jeffersonott4357]

So, Darwin and Mike Tyson are the most famous pigeon enthusiasts ?😊

[@992ras]

It actually came from his study of finches not pigeons

[@75greenfish62]

​@@992ras no, it was actually first pigeons. He kept and observed pigeons before he wrote about the finches.

[@snailofkale]

misread this VERY badly

[@stambo1983]

​@992ras he kept and bred pigeons.

[@thunderbolt5982]

I'm taking a class on evolution at my college rn and we read an article that found that mutations in non-coding DNA (the fluff that helps protect against cancer among other things) can change into entirely new genes. Their example was a species of tuna that mutated a gene that prevented them from freezing in really really cold water, from a part of their DNA that didn't do anything before. So, if their research pans out (and its still early, so who knows how this hypnosis will survive), then you really can say that sometimes new cards enter the deck, so to speak.

[@olivermorin3303]

Sounds more like the deck is 99.9% full of blank cards.

[@twh563]

How do they know that gene mutated? The gene was always there. Did scientists watch it mutate?

[@d_camara]

​@@twh563before it was like that and now it's like this, therefore it changed

[@d_camara]

One of the most basic kinds of mutation is one section of DNA being duplicated, so new cards entering the deck is very much a thing

[@lordfelidae4505]

@@twh563we know it mutated because before, it was different and didn’t do anything. Now, it does something that part of dna didn’t do. It’s like writing something in a book. You don’t assume that a word was always there if it was blank yesterday.

[@gerardpalomo9195]

As a child born in 1950, and growing up in a devoutly Catholic family, I heard Bible stories from infancy. Unfortunately for my parents, they made the mistake of buying an expensive set of hardcover books called "Childcraft" books. These were a semi-encyclopedic series that covered science, geography, literature, and mythology. My mother read these books to my sister and me, because she wanted us to become educated (neither she, nor my father, ever completed high school). In my toddler's mind, reconciling these books with what the priests talked about in their sermons, made it seem obvious to my preschooler's mind that the Bible was a metaphor, and not to be taken literally, but rather, for the morality that its tales conveyed - like Aesop's Fables, for example. Later, as a first- or second- grade student, I was sick and stayed home from school one day. Watching black-and-white television, I saw a program that mentioned Charles Darwin and his theory of evolution by natural selection. My instinctive reaction was, "OF COURSE that's how it happened!" The world was complete again, untroubled by contradictions between "faith" and science. From that point on, I was at peace. It wasn't until the "Cuban Missile Crisis" that I lost all faith in any god. But that's another story . . .

[@basilcook4280]

That’s fascinating. I was never that coherent or structured a thinker, especially at that age

[@ModernEphemera]

1950 is actually the year Pope Pius XII announced there’s no conflict between Catholicism and evolution. If people were telling you otherwise they were actually out of step with Rome.

[@gerardpalomo9195]

@@basilcook4280 I did not intend to make myself seem precocious. The thoughts I had were more like helium balloons being lobbed back-and-forth in slow-motion by a fascinated child, rather than a rationally-expressed thesis. This was perhaps inevitable, being that I never went to a public school. I started my education from 1st grade (no kindergarten required in those days) through Sophomore year of university, in Catholic schools. Imagine if your drill sergeant in basic training had been a Jesuit priest.

[@gerardpalomo9195]

@@ModernEphemera Many were, regardless of their Good Habits.

[@ModernEphemera]

@@gerardpalomo9195 Fair enough. Sorry you had to go through that.

[@Marychelle]

His music keeps making me think my refrigerator door is open and chiming to let me know.

[@riluna3695]

Not the first time I've heard this particular approach, but possibly the best version of it I've seen yet. Best here meaning "most capable of tricking people". Calvin does a pretty decent job of describing natural selection and mutation, but keeps them deliberately separate so that he can dismiss each one by appealing to its incompleteness. Natural Selection is a real and true thing, he says, but it can't explain where it gets the new information it selects from. And it can't...alone. That's mutation's domain. And sure mutation is a real and true thing, he says, but if you only ever change things randomly, you'll just screw everything up! Mutation's randomness can't account for how species keep getting more complex and better suited to their environments! And it can't...alone. That's natural selection's domain. They're both happening at the same time, at ALL times. Each of them beautifully solves the complaint he has for the other, so he can't talk about them both at once. He has to keep them separate, do one first and the other later, so you miss the fact that they solve each other's problems. It's a very clever trick, because it LOOKS like he's steel-manning evolution. A lot of apologist explanations of how these things work will sound not the least bit familiar when you hear what an actual biologist says about what they know and how they know it, because they heavily misrepresent what the biologists are saying about it. But when you hear the actual story of evolution, it sounds an awful lot like all the things Calvin just described and showed the flaws in. So it's harder for people to immediately see that the story is very different (and much more sensible) than what their own kind has told them it is. It sounds superficially the same, so you think "I've heard this and already see the flaws in it", rather than thinking "wait, that doesn't sound at ALL like what I was told!" Thus: A more clever trick than most. But that doesn't stop it from still being a misrepresentation, and the flaws in his argument are there to be found if you actually look. All it actually does is do a better job of tricking the people who never check for themselves.

[@PeerAdder]

Which is why it's so dangerous and why we should be grateful that someone as well informed and erudite as Forrest takes the trouble to pull it to shreds.

[@aazhie]

Evolution is fairly complex. If I had a disassembled card I would NOT be able to connect it properly. Thus, I trust a well trained mechanic probably can help me understand it.

[@traildude7538]

He made me think of a guy I encountered online who has a biology degree yet insists that mutations are irrelevant to evolution.... and that any mutations that are beneficial always develop after a change in environment.

[@NinjaMonkeyPrime]

15:05 Darwin was unaware of how animal breeding worked. 17:58 Darwin often used animal breeding as an analogy for evolution. You'd think that at least the actor would point out the problem with the script.

[@IrdFir]

I like how the more I rewatch one of your videos, the more I understand what your saying, it’s like a magic eye but it makes you smarter instead of giving you a headache

[@colepriceguitar1153]

It really is incredible you are able to do this since you formed this ability by complete chance

[@IrdFir]

@@colepriceguitar1153 I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not

[@MossMothMyBeloved]

@colepriceguitar1153 Mutations are random - Natural selection is not. That said, it is truly marvelous what the mind is capable of. Life is wonderful and even simple things like learning and emotion are to be cherished, regardless of how you believe we formed.

[@thesingerintheshower]

I appreciate this man's dedication to the farce by hanging science posters on the wall behind him. There is also plenty of irony in his suit, which we associate with archeologists, who are responsible for finding fossils, which demonstrate and support evolution.

[@nasonguy]

Thank you for 3:38. Seriously. As an Agnostic Atheist who was raised in a Fundamentalist Evangelical Christian household this one hits home. There is unfortunately a current of "if you're religious you're just plain stupid" amongst _SOME_ Atheist circles. Definitely a minority thought/opinion. But it is there and it needs to be pushed back. I was always curious and inquisitive as a child, teen and young adult. But I was homeschooled and my curriculum was exclusively YEC dogma. My parents even "vetted" my chemistry curriculum. I missed out on a lot of necessary science education because it disagreed with or didn't firmly espouse Young Earth Creationism. Lo and Behold, as I grew older and get into the world more, and learned more, things started making more sense... As you emphasized, most people are glad to learn and accept new things. Yes, it takes time. Yes, people are prone to being slow to change. But we see it happening...

[@yitzchokmickler8658]

I agree. I am religious and not stupid.

[@yoshi6421]

I agree. I wholeheartedly avoided learning about evolution when I was religious, yet I was a straight A student with huge interests in biology and genetics. As I deconverted, I learned so much and realized just how much I was missing, and how everything suddenly made sense with what I knew.

[@pH7oslo]

@@yitzchokmickler8658 How do you know you're not stupid? There are tests only smart people can pass, but there are no similar tests that only stupid people can pass. That is, stupid and smart are not mutually exclusive - not when we're talking about people rather than isolated actions, claims, beliefs etc. Getting a high score on an IQ test only means that you (presumably) have a higher potential for solving difficult tasks/problems than someone who's unable score that high on an IQ test. It does not in any way prevent you from doing, saying or believing something stupid (I think we all have experienced that, more times than we'd like to). Becoming aware of our own stupidity can be quite difficult, especially on our own. Thinking that because we're smart we're not holding on to any stupid ideas makes it pretty much impossible. Case in point, if we think that we can't be stupid because we're smart, we've just proven ourselves wrong, as that conclusion is a logical fallacy - hence, we are indeed stupid. And smart. It's part of being human.

[@idrabohm3678]

I sometimes wonder who I would've been had I been born into a Fundamentalist, Evangelical, etc. household. It's an impossible question to answer, of course, but I ask myself if, being surrounded by people I trust who tell me that the world works this way, being cut off from education concerning critical thinking skills or scientific concepts, and being forced to spend most of my life at church being brainwashed if I would've ever been able to break out of my situation. I'm not sure I could've. So much of our lives are controlled by circumstances beyond our control that I hesitate to call someone stupid. More likely, they're just indoctrinated or have never had the opprotunity to learn.

[@Megan-nt7dm]

Not knowing something doesn't equal being stupid. If that's the metric, then we are all stupid, because it is physically impossible for us to know everything. I think the "stupid" comes into play when there is repeated, intentional dismissal of solid evidence and good explanations, but when you are told by everyone you ever trusted that the sky is green, you're going to say the sky is green and it's going to take a lotttt of convincing to show you that it's blue 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@Eromatics]

I have been waiting for the next reacteria patiently and it's finally here! I'd like to see another John and Jane episode for a future video. That's always a good time lol.

[@MrRezillo]

Could the reason for Jane's absence be the result of taking off her chastity ring and, you know, gotten in a family way? I know; just idle speculation.

[@bekmogamingchannel]

Answers in Genesis: This food has flour, sugar, eggs, vanilla, and chocolate chips. It's not a chocolate cookie though.

[@TheNinthGeneration1]

To be fair, those ingredients can make a multitude of pastries depending on the ratios and shape

[@RickMason-yj7pv]

No. That would a chocolate chip cookie

[@snailofkale]

WHERE is your baking soda!

[@unduloid]

@@snailofkale Only sinners use baking soda. Those touched by the Holy Spirit use cookie dough!

[@infinityabyss2559]

​@@unduloid lols good one 😂

[@AlX-Ander]

For maybe a better rebuttal to the playing cards analogy: If you shuffled and halved two decks, then put their halves together, odds are there will be multiples of some cards in one that are missing from the other. That is a mutation, without even needing to include printing errors. Both "offspring", are no longer legal decks.

[@mininduperera]

"Answers in genesis is a reputable organization" has the same vibe as "Brutus is a honourable man" 😆

[@daftwulli6145]

Brutus stopped a tyrant from destroying a democracy, how is not honorable ?

[@mininduperera]

@@daftwulli6145 did he though? The republic was gone a few decades later thanks to Augustus. The political system was broken at that time. All Brutus did was get exploited by the senate. He was a self righteous idiot, definitely not honourable.

[@daftwulli6145]

@@mininduperera So that he failed makes him dishonorable ? What a werid logic. By that same logic all the people in germany who tried to stop hitler where dishonorable since he got to power anyway.

[@christophermonteith2774]

Your giving them too much credit, Brutus arguably did something good

[@paxanimi3896]

Annoyingly Incompetent Group

[@Sam-co2ig]

i am so inlove with this series i wish it would never end. thank you forrest❤️

[@Ambersdf]

I hope there is a day when answers in genesis have no followers...

[@jensraab2902]

This ridiculous argument that all we ever observe is microevolution, is like saying, I've never seen a toddler turn into an old person - therefore I reject the idea that old people came from toddlers. I'm in my mid-40s. There has never been a time where I looked in the mirror and thought that I looked older than the day before. But I'm sure I don't need to tell you that I looked a little bit different in my high school days.

[@bobs182]

They question how one cell can become a human when all of us were one cell at one time. In early embryology most animals appear the same which gives us a snapshot of how we were all the same at one time. Embryology, fossils and DNA all show evolution.

[@thisslime2109]

"Oh my Glob, did he actually say observational science?" Made me actually laugh for a second. LSP

[@GodFreeAtLast]

In 2006, when I very nervously started reading The God Delusion (Dawkins), I began my journey into finding truth and answers. Although there are a large number of people I admire in this field, my main influences along the way were (are) Hitchens and, Matt Dilahunty. I can honestly say that Forrest is rapidly becoming another favorite, and main influence. Love the passion, the knowledge, and the confidence!!

[@marknieuweboer8099]

If you prefer thorough atheist philosophy to superficial atheist propaganda (Hitchens) I recommend Herman Philipse's God in the Age of Science. You may find answers to questions you even haven't formulated yet. It's an expensive book and it requires quite some effort.

[@Jedi_Vigilante]

@@marknieuweboer8099 I don't know that I would call Hitchens or Dillahunty "superficial atheist propaganda". Sure, a lot of their material is pretty superficial, but that is more because of what they have to combat against. If the people who called in to Matt's shows actually had fully formed logical arguments, then his show would be much more thorough and "sophisticated". It isn't Matt's fault that the majority of theists can't come up with a better argument for their God than "look at the trees". Also, "atheist philosophy" is a bit of a misnomer. An atheist is merely a person who lacks a belief in a god or gods, nothing else. That doesn't require any philosophy at all, just like it doesn't dictate any particular worldview. I've known people who are atheists who still believe in ghosts, karma, are anti-vaccine, reject all science, think the study of mental health and sociology are wasted time and energy, etc. There is no atheist philosophy. The closest you can get is a principle of philosophy which is compatible with the atheistic position on god/gods, or a philosophy which is widely accepted by many atheists.

[@marknieuweboer8099]

@ JediV: Philipse grounds atheism thoroughly. That's what I mean with atheist philosophy. If you think that a bit of misnomer it's not my problem. Hitchens never did anything coming close. I don't know Dillahunty well enough to evaluate him.

[@jojobizarrelivingstone594]

I like matt's snarkyness but i don't like when he immediately explodes when its not that deserved or when tells people to not interrupt when he sorta does it too. Doesn't help that jimmy is there to taunt the caller even more. At the end of the day trying to do a 'who can spew bigger insults' isn't really going to get anyone any where

[@zeckendorf4187]

“You can just assume I did the 5 ft thing a whole bunch” is my favorite thing I heard today

[@GretgorPooper]

The joke at 14:15 makes me realize that we URGENTLY need a "Forrest Valkai out of context" compilation.

[@RenegadeScienceTeacher]

Somebody get on this. ☝️

[@traildude7538]

I learned that as "Dastardly King Philip Came Over From Germany Seeking Vengeance", the "V" being for "Variety".

[@marctestarossa]

As a German I can say that imagining this guy in an SS uniform and acting kinda like the slick psychopath Hans Landa mixed with mad scientist Mengele and hobby ritualistic witchcraft enthusiast Himmler isn't very difficult. What a choice for a spokes person.

[@marknieuweboer8099]

Several creationists are also christofascists indeed.

[@marctestarossa]

@@marknieuweboer8099 There's nothing like some good old science denial to support your racist supremacist believes... good times.

[@marctestarossa]

@@marknieuweboer8099 ya, with most conspiracies you will find that they result from some sort of anti-Semitism if you dig deep enough..

[@mylittleelectron6606]

The cut away when the guy says the Bible perfectly explains nature to you reading about the talking donkey was comedic gold.

[@dlandon2000]

I'll be shocked if aig ever makes a video that isn't a fail

[@ARoll925]

Or completely dishonest

[@tabularasa0606]

That's be the same day they're rebrand themselves as naig.

[@jameshall1300]

B-b-b-b-but the buy-bull has to be right!?!? Right? Right?....

[@traildude7538]

They don't even know how to read the Bible, so they're bound to fail.

[@xxbongobazookaxx7170]

36:50 I study robotics and couldn't help but rip of my headphones and scream "THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT MACHINE LEARNING IS" Like we have an entire field of computing dedicated to doing exactly that in an efficient way, in fact evolution is what we modelled it after and it's pretty damn useful for more complex topics

[@fluidthought42]

"But is a model that can allow bipedal character models to walk and dance really a different *kind* of model than one that makes them flop around the floor like a cross between a fish out of water and a baby having a seizure? What a time to be alive!"

[@Catalin-Stefan]

After so many years I didn't expect someone to destroy my mood so hard with a single sentence. Like tonight I wanted to to some optimizations but what's the point if I don't bring something new. There's literally no point in programming anymore.... _last seen 9 years ago_

[@xxbongobazookaxx7170]

@@fluidthought42 that sounds suspiciously like 2 minute papers lol