Renfi Vs Stregabor The Lesser Evil Explained | The Witcher Lore | The Last Wish

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@joseph91iam
@joseph91iam 5 жыл бұрын
I love this story, every part of it. I love how Geralt doesn't want to choose between them but he doesn't hesitate to protect the innocent people on the market and in the end, he is seen as the monster who killed all those people.
@Cuban20
@Cuban20 Жыл бұрын
"Snow White and the 7 Dwarves Vibes," Renfri of Craydden IS Snow White. The Witcher Universe is where all of the fairy tales come from. But in that world they are darker than how they are told in ours. In the books when she killed the Huntsman after he raped her, she joined a road side gang of 7 Dwarves who were her friends, Stregobor put a sleep spell on her and Prince Charming freed her. But then she took over his kingdom by a military coup and killed his father. And she had a Stepmother was "Good" Except she had a magic mirror from the Goddess Nehelenia (a Goddess worshiped by the Celts and Germans in real life) that showed her that one day, Renfri would destroy the Kingdom. She hired Stregobor to find out if it was true. So she accidentally created the future she saw in the mirror.
@pablodzch
@pablodzch 5 жыл бұрын
This was the first episode. Cool how you knew all along
@ignaspazera8111
@ignaspazera8111 4 жыл бұрын
Book
@krislimpus
@krislimpus Жыл бұрын
These videos are so great! Thank you! I’ve just finished listening to the books but this really helps solidify the content for me when I miss stuff
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 5 жыл бұрын
Even if Renfri was mutated though, it doesn't mean Stregeborn was right though. She isn't the sum of her mutations any more than Geralt is. Stregeborn will use the mutations to justify his evil, but whatever the autopsy shows, it still won't settle Geralt's guilt, just let Stregeborn absolve himself.
@JamesBlackmore0127
@JamesBlackmore0127 5 жыл бұрын
There's only other element you didn't really touch on for long is the fact that Renfri and her gang were going to kill innocent civilians as a method for drawing out Stregabor. I can't remember the details, but they were basically going to kill one person in the market every so often until he came out to meet his death. If Geralt didn't intervene, innocent people were going to die. I don't think Geralt would have interfered with Renfri if she was just going to kill Stregabor by himself, but she was essentially a terrorist, which made her a monster. Maybe not a biological monster but she became a monster as a way of avenging her victimization. That makes her a very sympathetic monster, but still a monster.
@akitomori
@akitomori 5 жыл бұрын
Wanted to say exactly this. Decent vid overall but that was a crucial part to miss. In the end Geralt didn't choose the lesser or greater evil nor does he care which is which. He did what a witcher does and slay the monster that Renfri became through her desperate and vengeful actions. Personally, I wish he'd killed Stregabor as well but I can see how that'd cause more complication.
@Arkhestra
@Arkhestra 20 күн бұрын
forget any proof of this but I recall it being said that she actually never planned to do that
@christopherwright6208
@christopherwright6208 5 жыл бұрын
Just want to say that I absolutely love this channel. The content you make along with the way you speak,personality and the passion you bring to each video is great. the only thing that I would say is I wish to videos would be just a little bit longer but other than that is channel is epic.
@cherylbaxterstormborn477
@cherylbaxterstormborn477 5 жыл бұрын
I agree even though I haven't seen any of the Witcher an want to , I also agree with how you explain your videos your voice is perfect for reading an explaining the show an video
@MrsHjort
@MrsHjort 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, as a person who has been into the games and the books for many years I love that you've started doing Witcher themed clips. Regarding the autopsy I disagree with you. I think that Gerralt didn't want the wizard to do it because he knew he couldn't trust him. As a Witcher he knows many wizards look down on him. They view him as a tool that they sometimes have to use but nothing more. They don't even view the withcher signs as "real magic". They think that the witchers are backwards relics of the past. Add to that their shared past - Gerralt knows that the wizard only wants to use him when it suits him. Also, Gerralt thinks the prophesy is bullshit, and that Renfri simply wanted revenge (which was understandable to some degree). Also, the wizard, who wouldn't want to lose face, would have claimed she was a monster no matter is she was one or not. He simply wouldn't have been able admit he was wrong because that would have meant that the move that was made towards the girls in the first place would have been wrong, and that would have caused political intrigue, as well as put the wizard in a bad light. So, giving Renfri's corpse to the wizard would serve no good purpose. The only thing it would do was to allow the wizard to get more "proof" to what he had been saying the whole time - that she was a monster - in order to improve his standing and save face. In shot, to justify the horrible crimes towards the girls through more lies.
@harryo82
@harryo82 5 жыл бұрын
These Witcher lore videos are definitely making me excited for the Netflix series
@lydiaquinn2892
@lydiaquinn2892 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! So glad you know your Witcher stuff. Really helps since I don’t but I’m super excited for the series
@ferniek5000
@ferniek5000 5 жыл бұрын
At the third book now, plus The last Wish. I am so impressed with this author. I can see why George chose to borrow elements in homage. Thank you for covering this series.
@Parlorjam
@Parlorjam 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job explaining season 1! Yay! ✨⚔️✨
@cassthea18
@cassthea18 Жыл бұрын
Omg I love your breakdowns on the Witcher stories! I know you stopped doing these 4 years ago, but it would be so SO cool if you made more.
@reddblurr
@reddblurr 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, extremely well done. This episode had the best fight scene of the entire season. I still can’t get over it..
@bore-osofmyr2539
@bore-osofmyr2539 5 жыл бұрын
After your first Witcher video I got the first two books in the series. Now I’m on the third. Thanks for the recommendation. They are really good!
@sarpedonzeus1874
@sarpedonzeus1874 5 жыл бұрын
Gray ... good vid on the Lesser Evil. It's a fab little short story. Who was telling the truth, Renfri or Steroborg? It's a tough position for Geralt to be in the middle and make a choice. I did feel for Renfri and what had happened to her because of the prophecy. A couple of the other posters highlighted that you missed out Renfri and her crews plan to massacre civilians in the market to draw Stregobor out of the tower as also being of the "Lesser Evil". Renfri's crew had committed a similar massacre in Tridam and that forces Geralt to pick a "Lesser Evil" by having to kill Renfri's crew and save innocent lives. Little did those innocents know how close they were to being butchered that morning.
@jamessloan4178
@jamessloan4178 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so entertaining and informative. I’m here from the recent witcher rage, but I should have watched you a long time ago. Keep up the good work!
@miraelrozczarowniczona8901
@miraelrozczarowniczona8901 5 жыл бұрын
For me lesser evil is about not to chose lesser evil. Geralt pick a side and decide to kill Renfris men. He is wrong. He lack knowlage to make "lesser evil" choice. In reality Stregobor refuses to leave tower evan if Renfrii kills all villagers. If Witcher does not show up in market everybody lives. Renfri would not kill any of villagers if she knows that it will not work. (Stregobor never leaves a tower). Renfris men lives. Renfri lives. Stregobor lives. In the end what anybody gains in Geralt involved in case? Seven unnecessary victims, thats all. In a market scene after killing her men she come back from having talk with Stregobor. From book: "'You've made your choice,' she said slowly. 'Are you sure it's the right one?' 'This won't be another Tridam,' Geralt said with an effort. 'It wouldn't have been. Stregobor laughed in my face. He said I could butcher Blaviken and the neighbouring villages and he wouldn't leave his tower. And he won't let anyone in, not even you.' " I belive point was to convinced reader to never choice the lesser evil. To never pick a side in somone els battle.
@sarpedonzeus1874
@sarpedonzeus1874 5 жыл бұрын
Mireal, well put.. Gray you missed this one important bit to the Lesser Evil. If Geralt does nothing and then Renfri and her crew carry out their plan of the market place massacre. That's the Lesser Evil...and Geralt kills the crew and finally Renfri.
@Daemon1356
@Daemon1356 5 жыл бұрын
@Dani Stark I'm sure it was some of her men that had previously started to kill innocents in order to get prisoners freed, it's been ages since I've read the book thoough
@szafraniec8164
@szafraniec8164 3 жыл бұрын
Great that somebody gets it. It was not about renfri, but seven dead people. Geralt wanted to be a hero but ended up a murderer
@jarredhurley9572
@jarredhurley9572 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video! It’s still weird for you to be talking about something other than GoT or ASOIAF. Especially, when I’ve already read the Witcher stories. I’m enjoying it though. Keep it up!
@nightcitypunk8517
@nightcitypunk8517 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your coverage on The Witcher. Thanx Gray.
@JaimieJo
@JaimieJo 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to watch this series now! Are you going to breakdown the other stories in this book? These five videos are wonderful! Thank you!
@gmosTC
@gmosTC 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this!! 🐺 ⚔
@nikkiward1715
@nikkiward1715 5 жыл бұрын
I just started this on audible and I’m on chapter 4 the voice of reason.... thank you for your recommendation and explanations
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 5 жыл бұрын
Nikki Ward I’m loving it!!!
@mackerelle9789
@mackerelle9789 2 жыл бұрын
Peter Kenny does such a good job in the English translation! My favorite incarnation of Jaskier.
@AStarkofWinterfell24
@AStarkofWinterfell24 5 жыл бұрын
Keep it up Gray!
@ryno202
@ryno202 5 жыл бұрын
Just when I thought ur channel couldn't get anymore dope! Love The Witcher! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@hubertpiecha7089
@hubertpiecha7089 5 жыл бұрын
I love you for doing witcher videos (actually i already did before but you know what i mean)
@kayfarm97
@kayfarm97 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these, needed to recap before moving on with the books. 🤣
@craigwilliams1073
@craigwilliams1073 5 жыл бұрын
I love listening to you!
@chaningdodson4245
@chaningdodson4245 4 жыл бұрын
I could listen to you talk all dayyy
@2angies19
@2angies19 5 жыл бұрын
I want sure about The Witcher show, as usual-your video piqued my interest to watch.
@Swarzyc
@Swarzyc 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gray, good clip for my birthday :D
@JL-nb1yc
@JL-nb1yc 5 жыл бұрын
I loved this video, and am looking forward to the rest of the series. But, some of the text was cut off on the left. Sometimes just a couple of letters, sometimes almost a full word. You should make sure everything is properly visible.
@DustinKrizan
@DustinKrizan 3 жыл бұрын
Well spoken! I was wondering what exactly happened when watching the series
@kated3883
@kated3883 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! But the emphasis in the word Kikimora is placed on the second syllable " kik`Imora"
@danjordan1
@danjordan1 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet Summer Juice!
@ShadeoftheEvening
@ShadeoftheEvening 5 жыл бұрын
Geralt HAD to choose. Just like we all have to sometimes. Shrike is only bird that impales it's prey on throrn bushes. Like Renfri. I was surprised who he choose. Stregabor is a POS, definitely lesser evil. I think Geralt really liked Renfri. Can't wait for next story!!!!. These are great videos. I can sense your passion for the stories. It's awesome. Seems like the wizards really enjoy creating their own monsters. Never thought about Geralt not knowing how he chose. Duh. It's like I read it and it escaped out of my brain😜
@ChildlezzCatlady
@ChildlezzCatlady 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah baby! More juice 🥤 much love from Texas to my sister!
@JoniukasVader
@JoniukasVader 5 жыл бұрын
Gray Area!
@naturesbliss2903
@naturesbliss2903 5 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews. I think, I can't wait for Netflix to air this show.
@cherylbaxterstormborn477
@cherylbaxterstormborn477 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have Netflix we have Foxtel ann now Foxtel has Netflix but its to much $$ , but does it have dragon's in it ? I'd luv to see it it sounds great thank you Grey for a great video 🐲🔥🐲🔥
@tbone5757
@tbone5757 5 жыл бұрын
I'm loving this book
@alenecamp4989
@alenecamp4989 5 жыл бұрын
I love you thank you.
@frenchphil1248
@frenchphil1248 5 жыл бұрын
I would say ty for the witcher interest =)
@Taytay_moneyup
@Taytay_moneyup 5 жыл бұрын
You should look into Carnival row it was amazing actually
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 5 жыл бұрын
Myonte Printis im watching it now
@Taytay_moneyup
@Taytay_moneyup 5 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear your video on that when your done with it the ending is crazy
@JCResDoc94
@JCResDoc94 3 жыл бұрын
gr8 sgt =)
@Trustworthy_McLegitimate
@Trustworthy_McLegitimate 5 жыл бұрын
the inspiration for the Witcher 3 Killing Monsters trailer. it was a cool trailer
@eisforerock
@eisforerock 5 жыл бұрын
Why did this series stop?
@gregstiles
@gregstiles 2 жыл бұрын
Renfri was driven by revenge. she could have walked away. the wizard didn't have that option, despite his history of being shtty. love this series, you've got a nice voice/delivery
@mijaaauuu96
@mijaaauuu96 5 жыл бұрын
00:00 CHOGI WAAH sorry, sorry, couldn’t help myself, I’ll see myself out now...
@chu1103
@chu1103 5 жыл бұрын
Netflix have waste such opportunity for the great story. As I am watching the series without reading the book, I don’t really understand what is happening In Blaviken.
@manofmartin
@manofmartin 5 жыл бұрын
That's to bad. I missed the snow white part but I picked up the damsel/princess in destress and it all goes south. Geralt has regret for his choice and it effects later choices.
@alessandro56306
@alessandro56306 5 жыл бұрын
@GreyArea se have to consider that maybe Gerlat start a fight with Renfri because she was killing innocent in the market .
@collettewilliams2912
@collettewilliams2912 5 жыл бұрын
Thank u
@eaglessixersfankeepingitre3247
@eaglessixersfankeepingitre3247 5 жыл бұрын
Daaayuuum GreyArea I love your voice, and could listen to you speak all day! 😍
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 5 жыл бұрын
Deus Vult Thank you!
@eaglessixersfankeepingitre3247
@eaglessixersfankeepingitre3247 5 жыл бұрын
GrayArea my pleasure for such an accomplished literary woman as you.
@aaronworkgrierson1470
@aaronworkgrierson1470 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't read the books, played the games or watched the show but I've watched some KZbin videos about the stories and clips of the show. So, I might be wrong about some or all of this. I really think it could have been that Geralt really just didn't want to see anymore good be sacrificed at all, at that point in his life. The way I understand it, this situation happened relatively early in his career and the show made it seem like he was very bitter about being a witcher at all. I think the reason he couldn't choose the lesser evil is because he didn't want to see Any evil. When Renfri was going to sacrifice town people to draw out the wizard, Geralt wasn't prepared to tolerate it (but, I think the show beautifully made a point when the little girl first met Geralt and was telling him about how she killed her dog to sell to the wizard for money for new clothes, which is a monstrous thing to do. Then, it's the little girl that Renfri almost kills. Then, the little girl rejects Geralt when he is stoned and banished.). It's also definitely an event that would induce PTSD. I would be interested to know if Geralt ended up avoiding towns that winter because of the trauma he received in Blavakin.
@tbone5757
@tbone5757 5 жыл бұрын
That image just looks like a giant spider. A kikimora doesn't look like that. You can find some images online.
@destinitaylor4360
@destinitaylor4360 5 жыл бұрын
Get that “Winter is coming.” Shit outta here man 🤣 Edit:(doesn’t mean I’m not gonna buy this book though.) so did George get impressions from this??
@tbone5757
@tbone5757 5 жыл бұрын
It's in the book
@hesusdanu9231
@hesusdanu9231 5 жыл бұрын
its sad he kill the babe and save the monster...................... something feeled wrong
@ChildlezzCatlady
@ChildlezzCatlady 5 жыл бұрын
I’m late but I made it 🐉🔥🤘🏻❤️🥤
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS 5 жыл бұрын
GA!!!
@chaunetelleshaw2009
@chaunetelleshaw2009 5 жыл бұрын
@GrayArea could you or have you watched "the 100"? I'd be interested in your thoughts?
@1492matador
@1492matador 5 жыл бұрын
It's STREGOBOR btw
@courtenyrourk7588
@courtenyrourk7588 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve written and published nonfiction, but I’m attempting my first fantasy novel. I’m looking for someone who isn’t in the establishment to beta read. If you or any of your fans are interested, please let me know. I can send a first chapter and more on request. Thanks.
@roshawngayle6625
@roshawngayle6625 5 жыл бұрын
Check out #see coming to Apple TV in November ft caldrogo from #got
@corbinskywalker
@corbinskywalker 5 жыл бұрын
Gray Lady returns
@umahasan3953
@umahasan3953 5 жыл бұрын
Gray girl you are good
@Tomviel
@Tomviel 5 жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like you completely missed the point of that story? The point is that evil creates evil, in the end Renfri was little better than Stregabor. She was ready to murder random people on the street just to get her pointless vengeance. Geralt obviously didn't care about Renfri's mutation since he was a mutant too so he knew that wasn't the key to what made her a "monster". He didn't choose Stregabor's side because he thought maybe Renfri was a mutant and so killing her was the "lesser evil" that he doesn't believe in, he chose to kill her because at that moment she was the one who was about to harm innocents. Which is simply evil as it is and that's the only thing Geralt cares about.
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 5 жыл бұрын
Pointless Vengeance? She was raped and her life was taken from her because a wizard said those girls were cursed. They had already killed most of them. They weren’t cursed. Geralt didn’t believe in it either. I trust his moral compass.... over the ramblings of a mad wizard.
@Tomviel
@Tomviel 5 жыл бұрын
@@GrayArea Vengeance is always pointless since it doesn't recover what's lost and doesn't help you to find relief. We agree on that Geralt didn't believe in the curse but then why do you think he killed Renfri? In the video you say he killed her because he thought she might be cursed and so killing her was maybe the lesser evil. That's clearly not the case, Geralt doesn't believe in the lesser evil and I'm pretty sure that neither does the writer. He only killed her to prevent her massacre, that's all.
@schweddybawllz8137
@schweddybawllz8137 5 жыл бұрын
Winter is coming lol no they didn't
@thelastprotoss_5840
@thelastprotoss_5840 5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Starkey they didn’t copy GoT 😌😂
@schweddybawllz8137
@schweddybawllz8137 5 жыл бұрын
@@thelastprotoss_5840 I liked that it was said. Not insinuating anything. Lol
@archy2frank2
@archy2frank2 5 жыл бұрын
Refrie was going to murder townspeople until Stragabor, faced her. She was just as evil.
@WilliamLopez-ys2gs
@WilliamLopez-ys2gs 4 жыл бұрын
I love how much passion you have for your work. But your cursing is a bit much i would love to share and recommend your channel but i cant bring myself too.i know it is part of your character but i wish you didn't do it so much. Thanks for all you do
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