Rep Chip Roy, Budgets, Deficits, And Gov’t Business

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[@stevengarman4848]

The best way to cut the deficit is to make the rich people shut up and pay their taxes !

[@libbycollins9349]

As long as they pay their fair share, I don’t mind if they whine and complain.

[@stevengarman4848]

@libbycollins9349 I just hate hearing from them.

[@libbycollins9349]

@@stevengarman4848 if they’re complaining, we’re doing something right.

[@jamescox5922]

We had a balanced budget when the top earners paid the highest tax rates. Both in the 50’s, which many “conservatives” harken back to as some idyllic age and when corporate taxes were much higher, and under Clinton. The GOP has successfully promoted this myth that they are better with the economy than Democrats when reality is the opposite.

[@scj2117]

@@jamescox5922 Proof that if you repeat a lie long enough if will be taken as truth.

[@libbycollins9349]

“The church is the only organization in the world that exists for those the sake of who are not yet members.” Now THAT’S profound.

[@jasonolson3133]

God and Jesus doesn't need the church for anything.

[@robinc6324]

I love it when my go-to people build each other up. 😊 Belle (& Beau) of the Ranch are another of my favs.

[@angelikalindenau943]

You're on to the good sources, Robin. ☃️

[@davidellis4084]

Yes, but are we building up an echo chamber? I always worry about hearing what I want to hear and not hearing what I need to hear. Right Wing Media is infamous for this.

[@HLBear]

Belle is very correct. Government only shares one thing with business - the more you invest, the better your long-term results. In government, the investment has to be in the citizens and their well being. 😊

[@angelikalindenau943]

Pursuing profit at the expense of the service you are meant to provide, you have already betrayed the service. It's either or!

[@RJ420NL]

If you cut expenses, then you can cut taxes on the Oligarchy, who are the ones they really serve. How do members of congress become multi-millionaires off a six figure salary? Where does all that money come from?

[@giniaRed]

Some churches don't open for profits, but there are many that have become too rich with their huge homes. Second planes

[@stevengarman4848]

The only time Jesus Christ ever praised a rich person is when that rich person was giving away his money !

[@angelikalindenau943]

Looks like Jesus Christ was biased, right?

[@stevengarman4848]

@angelikalindenau943 He also said "Shut up and pay your taxes.". Look in the Gospels with an open mind. You will find the quote.

[@kellyharper367]

Be the light, not the storm!

[@donaldspaulding6973]

Here in the US, the last trump administration handed over dollars (23 Billion to Walton Family) and added it to the national debt. The US seems to have an unlimited credit limit, unlike small business.

[@ad-dx9gi]

Amen Thanks Rev Ed!!!!... Thankfully the budget was passed there's are so many people depending on things..Plus the Bill had Aid for Farmers and Disaster relief!!!... God Bless 🕊️

[@NomadicArtist-p2q]

Just wanted to put my 2 cents in... As a US citizen and in my 60's, I've seen one common thing with my country, and that is an obsession for money. For some, it's about feeling in control and safe from the outside world. For a very few it's the ability to use money as a weapon to hurt people. I feel we are at a crossroads for our very existence. I believe that no matter what your religious outlook on life is, we need to find common ground and find a way to live in harmony with each other and the gorgeous blue dot we live on.

[@angelikalindenau943]

It seems to be an obsession with the money of or for others. Mad and utterly unhealthy for any commonwealth.

[@maudieg8459]

This is an important discussion, so thank you for brining it to the public awareness. As always, your comments are thought provoking, and the good God knows, we need to start thinking more deeply.

[@XenobiaF]

As always, thought provoking.

[@davidellis4084]

Eliminating the deficit and debt is very easy. 1. Decide what Government will do. 2. Determine the cost. 3. Tax citizens equitably to cover the cost. I personally like a flat tax on all income above the poverty level and even support those below the poverty line receiving a "refund" to help them. If the Elon Musks of the country were paying a modest 17% income tax, we would likely be near a balanced budget. Instead, Warren Buffet pays a lower rate than his secretary. I am not "Soak The Rich!" by any means. I just believe that if a group gets 50% of the total income of the country that they should be paying 50% of the taxes.

[@andrewharrison8436]

It was Warren Buffet who called out his tax rate as wrong. He isn't paying more tax but he is making payments to charity - which is probably better!

[@donaldspaulding6973]

Belle is fantastic. She's the only talking head I can listen to in addition to Rev Ed!

[@davidsantor1760]

Government by its very nature is not a for profit business system.

[@cheriann6461]

At least it shouldn't be. I struggle to name one government function that is being privatized, if it isn't in private hands, already (education, healthcare, infrastructure, prison, military, postal service, and probably some I've forgotten).

[@suelingsusu1339]

If you want to run a country like a business... then the business model should be a COOPERATIVE... an amalgam of Workers/Agricultural cooperative & Consumers Cooperative

[@edg3048]

Yeah, the billionaires will be all for that....... ROFL

[@suelingsusu1339]

@@edg3048 ... do you know what Cooperatives are... they are the antithesis of Capitalism and Billionaires hate them... I suggest you google it.

[@paulafitz532]

Amen

[@garyschmitt2196]

If the GOP would pass bipartisan bills about taxing big corporations and the wealthy, most debt/deficit problems can be gotten under control.

[@davidllewis4075]

I am old enough to have living memory of every President since Ike. Every Republican candidate has run on cutting government spending. How's that working?

[@paulafitz532]

Thank you 😊😊😊

[@lisacox8109]

Needs of the many over the needs of the few

[@libbycollins9349]

Needs of the many over the WANTS of the few.

[@davidellis4084]

So long as we avoid the tyranny of the majority, yes.

[@jtsimmons3133]

It's the razor's edge. But it's also the responsibility of the congregation or population to keep the church or government solvent enough to function. So the clergy or the government must be mindful of their solvency while at the same time fulfilling their primary function. You can't help anybody with a shuttered establishment. And that is why you have my undying admiration. The congregation usually does its best to fulfill their responsibility. It would be nice if billionaires did theirs. Even some billionaires say so. Nothing is stopping them, so talk's cheap.

[@WilliamRoop-xt6rp]

Matthew 6:24 is a statement about serving 2 masters... In this case, it's about serving people vs serving money. If he loves one, he hates the other...

[@Art-w1l8x]

Tax the billionaires in the U.S. asap. Make them pay their fair share like the lower & middle class of that nation.

[@JM-jacknthegreen]

Since we are no longer on the gold standard, government spending with an owned and controlled currency occurs not by taking money from taxes or other revenue, but by creating new money, which the government has the power to do in unlimited amounts electronically. Taxes are collected to control the amount of money being circulated and that's why taxes should only be collectedly from the rich.

[@heideleskun1163]

The fun fact is that in the last 4 years we have lowered the deficit, that will change next year and it will go up twice as much at it's come down.

[@JH-pt6ih]

Had to hit backspace and come back because I forgot to hit like.

[@zinaj9437]

I think it was Pope Benedict [XVI] that said that churches fail when they focus on maintenance (keeping the doors open) instead of mission (outreach and growth). The Church isn't on a mission. The Church IS mission (or it's not the Church). My pastor may have added the last piece. My parish in the United States supports parishes in Nepal, Haiti, Guatemala, and Rwanda. We have a "native son" priest in Kyrgyzstan and have lay missionaries at college campuses around the country. We feed the poor locally, visit prisons and assisted living facilities, and GREATLY increased our collection amounts per week during COVID because the need increased. Having seen the return on the donations and the continued need, the offerings have stayed high or increased. We are mission.

[@suelingsusu1339]

EXACTLY!!!! 👏👏👏👏👌👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍👍🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖

[@itowmyhome797]

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[@auntiebobbolink]

Rev, you know some people are worth more than other people. And I don't mean race and gender. I mean POVERTY.

[@dannybagley9424]

Republicans raise revenue by cutting taxes for the top 30% of wealthiest people and deregulating so government has to clean up waste and pollution caused by corporations.

[@silverghostcat1924]

Tax the rich and Mega churches. The county was the most prosperous when the rich were taxed their share.

[@jamescox5922]

These “conservatives” either are being disingenuous or they are ignorant of the fact that personal spending and federal investing are not the same. Getting into debt buying luxuries and consumables is not the same as investing in security and infrastructure, education and health. One only takes money away from you, the other gives returns on the money spent.

[@angelikalindenau943]

I don't see the either/or in this case. They mostly appear to be intertwined.

[@jamescox5922]

@ I’m saying they are either being dishonest about it, or they are too stupid to understand. But, yes, it could be both - they are too dishonest AND too stupid.

[@cheriann6461]

I'd usually put my money on disingenuous. Many of these folks (more so the Senate than the House) attended Ivy League schools; they understand how these things work. House members aren't dumb, either (well, mostly; I'm not super sure a few, like Boebert, know how to read).

[@suek.1507]

Did they give themselves a raise, though?

[@chippierce9185]

As a nonprofit. 501.c but. ??? What about the rest of us.

[@lindaSee89]

Hello

[@gregoryferber3231]

Lol Chip has no interest in balancing the budget. He serves the military industrial complex. Every penny he cuts, he would put in the military budget.

[@cheriann6461]

Perhaps. Though, to be a bit fair, San Antonio alone has four military bases, and that is only one of the cities he...'represents' (for lack of a better term). He kind of has to be in league with DOD and corporations like Boeing and Lockheed Martin.

[@dlh1947us]

Secular things that are not religious. Church which means "dedicated to the Lord." Which of these definitions fits a politician?

[@davidsantor1760]

Andrew Carnige? spelling? Quote , control costs and profits will take care of themselves. Me , without revenue there are no profits.

[@born2bwildne744]

"government exists to take care of the people" - in the USA, politics is a debate about what "taking care of the people" means combined with the "art" of acquiring power to further one's vision. The "art" of acquiring power costs a LOT of money and the rules of the game favor Big Money. Big Money corrupts, prioritizing "taking are of" Big Money - and not all peoples in the nation. "Culture war" issues are deployed to divide the people - and Big Money uses that division and distraction to further Big Money's goals. Shoot, Big Money is even increasing its control over college football, what with NIL. the transfer portal and caps of team sizes.... Didn't Jesus talk about money a lot? Why?

[@4toes1nose]

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