Replace a broken lathe with DSG Dean Smith and Grace lathe

[@wiadrognoju]

I think its Dave BIRTHDAY today = All the best man Good Luck

[@stuarthearn9890]

no doubt you are the most accomplished tradesman on youtube, BRAVO

[@russelloneill9763]

Can't beat an old DSG, mine is a 13z and I love working on it. DSG works even sent me the manual on it out to Cape Town. Great bunch of guys and they buy up old lathers to cnc them. Keep the videos coming David.

[@wildfire529]

We had 2 DSG's at the place I served my time, they were the pinnacle we apprentices wanted to get to, took 4 yrs but I finally got to work on one, my governor called them the Rolls Royce of lathes and he wasn't wrong. Hope you keep working on the sexy beast lol.

[@ChrisB257]

Great news update Dave - sad to see what's left in the old place and sad goodbye to Mr Bridgeport. Craven is one heck of a monster. Nice smarten-up on the DSG - sounds like an ideal plan for that one!

[@thomashaley5284]

If he needs a Bridgeport, that must be some kind of heavy duty fishing tackle!

[@THEIRONWORKER]

Your DSG lathe turned out pretty nice . What I do to my lathes is to paint between the ways a nice bright red color to warn of danger . It also adds to the lathe

[@Imba-gt7qi]

Nice lathe, i wish i had an Shop with space and without stairs... i would buy such a beauty Top Work you do! always an inspiration to me!

[@willemvantsant5105]

Dearly miss my 13x42 DSG, Rolls Royce of Lathes. I worked on 18X72 DSG, good solid machine, you wont break that!

[@hullygully-3599]

Very interesting Dave. Great job on the type 17 , I’ve a DSG here in Hull and looking forward to seeing you do 4 start threads. Keep going matey 💪🏻💪🏻

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Great video Dave . Things seem to be working out ok for you . The DSG is looking good . Cheers .

[@clemwyo]

Thanks for the update Dave, the DSG looks very nice. Craig

[@karlkiernan6863]

Dave you are a true hero of the north. Just found your channel sad to see that you have finished trading especially with the amount of knowledge you must have after running a successful business for so long.

[@Throughthebulkhead]

Great result, a new life for the both of you!

[@StreuB1]

6:30 HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! IM FUCKIN DEAD!!! That was hilarious. Looks like things are working out Dave. Glad to see and glad to hear. Its good that you're in a shop around people now and still knocking out kickass work. That shop owner who is accommodating to you is a smart man. He didn't just hire on a machinist, he bought your decades of experience and knowledge. And not just machining knowledge but business knowledge as well. Some would say he is a smart man, I would say you both are equally as smart and you both got a hell of a deal from each other.

[@userwl2850]

Thanks Brian. Great comment as always from you. 🖐👍

[@SB-hi9nj]

Great video. Looking forward to seeing the machining of those drill heads on the DSG and Bridgeport.

[@karlhrdylicka]

S B. Same here . join the queue.

[@bcbloc02]

I need to find a DSG to run to see how it compares with my Monarchs. That craven looks to be a heavy unit. I guess it is lacking in the tool room features of the dsg?

[@userwl2850]

If you ever get the chance to buy one... get it. 👍

[@pearcemachineshop5200]

Happy you got them all sold Dave, new beginnings mate, nice job on the DSG. Al.

[@madcarew.3256]

When I was an apprentice nearly 50yrs ago the class used Colchesters but because I was tall I got the DSG nice kit!

[@deconteesawyer5758]

Being tall is a better qualification for a public school high school diploma than what today's socialist government union teachers use to award diplomas in the States. Students are no longer required to pass minimal academic achievement tests in reading, writing, English and math before being awarded a diploma. Industrial Arts classes have been replaced with the liberal arts of homosexual/transsexual bathroom etiquette, multicultural diversity training, critical race theory, Marxism, and cancel culture. "Every Child Deserves a Diploma" is the motto, and every child gets one regardless if they can read write or make change for a dollar. No more diversity gap. OH well.

[@BiddieTube]

I like the brighter paint. That really looks great.

[@adrianbower1740]

Hey dave the dag came up a treat.good size lathe to. Nice work horse.

[@thelamb288]

DSG lathes, one of the first (of many lengths) I had the pleasure of learning my trade on. Bollocks to the colour as long as it cuts true ;) Cheers.

[@scania357]

Nearly made it some years back to owning a 17” DSG but I was a little short of the asking price. Lovely paint job and at least you will still be able to use it. Best wishes

[@theengineerium2493]

Hope your DSG is still giving good service. I've had my DSG type 17 for four years or so now, it replaced a Colchester Triumph as my 'big' lathe. There really is no comparison between the two machines and not just in terms of centre height. The DSG is just a pleasure to use.

[@Laura-wc5xt]

the Rolls Royce of Lathes.....Great Color David

[@diggmore1362]

Glad to see the DSG is going to a good home. I’ve never used a DSG only Colchester’s and Harrison’s but I’m well aware of the DSG name

[@stevenclaeys6252]

Very good job, looks beautiful.

[@geoffmorgan6059]

I think the "mis-mixed" colour is very nice! I have an old mill that would do well with that.

[@toolman7540]

I like what you said, it's not made to look pretty it have a job to do ,many machine owners should learn that.

[@mickocallaghan4896]

nice work dave.and yes the dsg is the best made lathe in the world,i myself am the very proud owner of a type 17 but mine is the 17t the one with the leadscrew reverse and i love it dearly thanks for the video.

[@seanrodden6151]

Leave battleship grey for the RN. That looks much nicer! Good job.

[@davidb6576]

I (like many) appreciate your videos and the machining tip and tricks that you've shown. Glad to hear you did well from the tool sales. Is this space yours, or rented? If yours, what are your plans for it?

[@userwl2850]

It was rented.

[@machiningbasics1729]

What’s the plan now then . Excellent work as usual

[@Erik-rp1hi]

Guessing those tools cost between $4,500 to $8,500 each?

[@hinz1]

What happened to the H Ernault Somua lathe exactly? Stripped teeth on gears or something more catastrophic? Lathe autopsy please!

[@userwl2850]

2 broken gears and the main drive shaft. That's what can happen cutting inconel. 😲

[@madaxe79]

@@userwl2850 unless you’re using Kenametal... 😝

[@userwl2850]

@@madaxe79 naa. I'll leave that to TITAN.... Boom 😉

[@madaxe79]

@@userwl2850 hey David, I’d like to just take an opportunity to say thank you for the videos. I’ve been in manufacturing for 20 years but I’ve just started my own shop and I’ve never seen anyone do this kind of machining, I would love give it a try. We used to do a job where we would bore a 175mm hole through 4140, 800mm deep then counter bore each end to take a bearing and seal, would have been heaps easier doing it this way instead of removing all the material as swarf. Do you just buy the cartridge in from sandvik and fit it to your own tube? I’d love to learn how to make them, I assume the geometry is pretty tricky to get spot-on.

[@userwl2850]

@@madaxe79 I sell the cartridges. Any size Trepanning tool uses the same. From 70mm to 700mm. Easy tools to make on a Bridgeport Mill. Good luck for the future buddy. 👍

[@Sketch1994]

Have you ever heard of/seen/used a Tos lathe? What's your opinion on them? I recently bought a SN50 and it seems good all around. Maybe a little light for it's size but definitely not a rougher.

[@catabaticanabatic3800]

It's a handsome looking beast. The colour is great.

[@codprawn]

I would love a DSG. Have you ever worked on a Holbrook? They are supposed to be pretty good as well.

[@userwl2850]

No... never worked one. 👍

[@rugger8787]

sells lathe machine shop: hay could you run that lathe for us?

[@zeab47]

All the lathes i worked on from when we had a machine tool industry, Dean Smith and Grace, Granor, Craven, Noble and Lund, Mitchell, Fairbourne and Lawson, Swift even ancient Tangyes from the first world war, all gone now.

[@ianbresnahan1808]

Beautiful work sir!!!!!

[@Rustinox]

Thanks for the video, Dave.

[@CH-pt8fz]

Lol, I shouted out DSG when you said what lathe could do a four start thread. And my wife what in god's name are you on. Ha ha🙈

[@Gottenhimfella]

I have a four start thread to produce and my biggest lathe could only manage a lead of less than half the required 24mm. So I bought a 1980s Ursus 250 which maxes out at 28mm. As a side benefit it has a spindle bore of 105mm. It wouldn't be any sort of match for a type 17 DSG in a bare-knuckle fight, and I won't be trepanning Inconel on it, but it would run rings around it for agility: it's a heck of a sweet lathe to use, even on really small parts. And almost uniquely for a European lathe, this model is still made (in Italy, near Turin) with virtually ALL spare parts available new off the shelf, wonderfully responsive service and v affordable. The only other Euro manual lathe (until such time as Brexit actually happens) I know of which is still in production (after a hiatus, IIRC) is Colchester. Again, the equivalent model (Mastiff, I think) is more heavily proportioned than mine but not as agile. And as a clincher, the maximum lead it can manage is only 14mm.

[@userwl2850]

@@Gottenhimfella if you could obtain a 12mm pitch you could half the final drive gear to get 24mm... e.g. 12mm pitch was a 50 tooth gear... a 25 tooth gear would give you a 24mm pitch. 🤔👍

[@userwl2850]

Had to be a DSG.. 😎👍

[@Gottenhimfella]

@@userwl2850 No need! The lathe's designers went one better. Their fully enclosed Norton-style gearbox maxes out at 7mm lead, but the output from that gearbox passes to the leadscrew through an external geartrain under the left hand cover, prior to encountering the banjo change gears. That external geartrain is remotely operated by a lever high on the front panel, which sideshifts (using a selector fork) from a 30T driving a 60T, to a 40T driving a 20T, so it provides a 4:1 step-up. Consequently the 14 coarsest pitches provided by the enclosed gearbox, ranging from 2mm up to 7mm, are sped up so they cover the range from 8mm to 28mm, again with 14 steps. One of which is the 24mm I need for the four start thread. Yay! Interestingly, even though it's a metric lathe, they've chosen to use an imperial (1/4") leadscrew pitch, because it would be much more complicated to provide all the inch pitches (especially the stupid US ones like 19tpi) with a metric leadscrew, whereas the metric pitches form a much simpler mathematical progression and are no sweat to piggyback off what is essentially an inch-oriented gearbox. The coarsest inch pitch it can cut without swapping any change gears on the banjo is a whopping 1 3/4". Seems to me the leadscrew would seize instantly and/or whirl itself into an alternative universe if an apprentice was unwise enough to dump the clutch with the spindle gearbox set to 1000 rpm! It does not take a genius to realise that it would be doing 7000 revs/min. (For the sake of others reading this: your suggestion was presumably to halve the tooth count of the final DRIVEN gear, not the DRIVER? )

[@machiningbasics1729]

Nice mate ! Hope you made plenty of money selling those big beasts . Worlds apart from where I work we have a bp triumph 2000 and some big borers

[@theonlybuzz1969]

I’d love to own and use a Bridgeport, but seeing as I only have a typical standard mains at home, I don’t think that will be happening anytime in the future .

[@dutchgray86]

The DSG looks good with its new paint on. My H Ernault Somua lathe is a nice machine as far as I am concerned, but its only a little one, 11" swing 22" between centres, mainly it was affordable for me and fits in the space I have, A DSG 17T would be very nice to have but the last decent one I saw near me was £7500 with no tooling, can't justify it since its not how I earn my living.

[@b2dmastersniper]

I did not realize these DSG lathes were so sought after, I just bought one this morning without really doing much research beforehand. Tempted to tear it down and fully refurbish. But it looks to be in great shape anyways.

[@glencasson9046]

The head on that French lathe did look very lightweight!. Get some nice oily chips on the DSG and in six months it will look as if it`s been there six years. I do hope you get chance to film the Craven lathe Dave? Onward and upward.

[@nikolaiownz]

If I ever get some more space I want a bridgeport. I love thoes machines

[@Jonathanbaker]

Hi there David I am new to your channel I am a machinist and like the videos that you are doing I'm just curious having not watched your other videos did you used to have your own business? I've worked on many machines but never had the opportunity of her Dean Smith and Grace.

[@userwl2850]

Hi Jonathan. Yes I have my own place but slowly closing down. I now work for another machine shop. Still making videos. 👍

[@bostedtap8399]

Tooling looks sad on pallets. Were Craven lathes based in Manchester?. All the best for the future, I worked on a brand new DSG in early 1980s, I was an a apprentice working along the turner, it had several problems early on, but still nice to use, in my limitations as an apprentice. Thanks for sharing.

[@StreuB1]

10:50 HOLY SHIT!!! Its a brand new machine! Worth triple at least! ;-)

[@antoniodelarosa7235]

where I can buy parts for a DSG. someone who knows? Thanks!

[@ladndad6072]

Love the DSG used on for years just a shame it's only ever used with a large face plate on it for boring out saw blades rest of it was used as a table haha

[@chriswhetter3370]

I'm made up for you Dave. Great to see you'll still be working on your sexy gorgeous lathe

[@donwright3427]

I had a DSG which literally fell off a lorry Few bits were broke off but it still worked fine an cost me nowt

[@6-4fab53]

I think you did one hell of a good job on the DSG! And congratulations on finding a boss who knows talent when he sees it! And also listens to the skilled when it comes to making profitable business decisions! Keep up the awesome content! I absolutely love your videos! It is so sad to see you closing your shop but I have followed you and know why and if I were you I'd do the same. Anyways, you and your family stay safe over there! Dan @6-4_Fab Glen Rock, PA, USA

[@theessexhunter1305]

Tough to see them go, where will they end up India?

[@roeng1368]

I hope not, its getting difficult to pick up a lathe or a mill, they are all containered off to india.

[@StreuB1]

I believe Dave said in a prior video that all the machines remained local (UK).

[@FredFred-wy9jw]

Dave ... it looks great ... besides painting sucks ... my favorite color for my shop made tools is hand rubbed oil on steel....

[@paulwomack5866]

Can you find a (perhaps KZbin) home-workshopper to give the (rapidly rusting) cross-slide and compound of the broken lathe to for a conversion project? They're only small (compared to the lathe) but they're the size of the freakin' table on a small mill!

[@MrSanmanbob]

Do you guys own a BROOM

[@angelarichards1911]

What are you going to use if you've got rid of everything?

[@StreuB1]

I don't want to speak for him but I believe he is contracting out to some shops now. Not sure if the one place has him on full time or not but I think he said in a past video that they bought a lot of his custom made tooling and some machines and then asking him to come on as a machinist. I'll let Dave clarify though if he sees this but I think I got it mostly right. I think he said his family had been moaning at him for a while about working alone in the shop, in case he gets hurt or something. And I think he said he finally folded to their pressure but mentioned he kind of agreed with them that working alone on big machines was not the smartest thing.

[@angelarichards1911]

Thank you for that. But machine loss leads to skill loss leads to trade loss. I wish him the best bless him xx

[@markfryer9880]

@@StreuB1 I agree with what Brian said about Dave's family not happy about his working alone. I would also like to add that in my opinion some of his clients were having a lend of him by expecting him to get rush jobs through the shop over the weekend. It just started to feel like Dave was being used to pick up the slack for someone else's bad management and on too regular a basis.

[@เครื่องคว้านสนามเครื่องกลึงสนา]

Good DSG lathe. My from Thailand.

[@userwl2850]

Sawattdee krab.

[@kelvincarr6172]

Best lathe i ever worked on DSG

[@chrisstephens6673]

The king maybe dead but some of his genes live on, even if the colour is slightly off.😉

[@robmacl7]

The old girl is looking very nice now.

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

very good video..thanks for your time

[@cameltanker1286]

Correct me if I'm wrong. You are selling you machines to your new employer?

[@davidrussell8689]

DSG definitely looks the part because it is . Those curves on the castings don’t just make it look sexy they make the machine as strong as hell ! Shame about the French lathe in question . Here in Spain “ Amutio “ is more or less the local equivalent to DSG , originally a French patent ( H.B )

[@dannywilsher4165]

Nice machine!

[@Pnrc-b2u]

Thanks , great video

[@johnstrange6799]

She's a beauty.

[@thomashaley5284]

Snails and garlic bread, I don't know about that! I'm just a poor ass Mississippi fabricator-welder. How do you spell S car go? Love your video's on KZbin! Please send more!

[@userwl2850]

Thanks Thomas.

[@guypatts494]

Why u sell all equipment

[@grumpyg9350]

What a cool video!!!!!👍🍻

[@enriquedemaria5071]

Hi David acá tengo espacio for the Britgerporh in My home.triste realidad.no todo es pará siempre .buenos deseos.saludo León México.

[@christopherpleb8693]

delightful, sexy and gorgeous! thanks for the videos mate, keep them coming

[@ИгорьСухов]

Порядок наводите, красите станки, убираетесь, это хорошо, красиво, чисто. Удачи Вам.

[@maxbray9124]

I know your bank account looks better, but what are you going to do about all the power you have given up?

[@joshdrexler8773]

Nice.

[@damienjupe8553]

❤❤❤

[@wheelitzr2]

Dam that's a sexy ass lathe!!

[@jeffersonvieira7073]

Gosto muito dos vídeos que vc faz apesar de não entender sua língua, mas eu gosto um abraço 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷 Jefferson Vieira Brasil

[@chiquinhoreydelas]

inglês é uma coisa que tem que saber hoje em dia, aprendo muito com as coisas que ele fala

[@rolfmissing4554]

24 leaves time for some serous daydreaming :)

[@wheelitzr2]

As a machinist, that lathe painted is more akin to porn than.... Yeah pretty much anything else.