Replacing a 40 year old windlass is not easy. E113

[@jimoliverie2760]

Great job Ed! The only thing missing is what I always say “I’m getting too old for this “

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks, and yes, I am getting too old for this!

[@jwpropertybrothers5198]

Keep em coming guys! Y’all are a hit at the office, your show is a hit in our office lobby! Haha

[@mikey0011]

Great job Ed. I was holding my breath while you were removing the gearbox. I knew it would be heavy. Hope you didn’t hurt yourself. I can only imagine how you are going to get the new one in.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Nah, I felt fine the next day. I was winded though. I did not show it in the video, but it took me a while to maneuver the unit into a place where I could lift it out. Being old and having asthma does help much either!

[@chrisschoendorf6691]

I am a boat mechanic what you need is a Maxwell winless they make a lot of different versions I’ve installed several of them and they work great

[@tryingnottosink9107]

That might be the choice. I am currently talking to Galley Maid about a rebuild.

[@dcallan812]

from a windlass to anchor over several years. sure looked hard work. Glad you explained the rope, my imagination was going. 🤣 2x👍

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Now that gives me ideas!

[@johnward9728]

Well done Ed good luck with the replacement

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks!

[@CodyBosch]

That Hatteras built quality!

[@bidask123]

Now I know how to remove Thor's Hammer from a Hatteras Yacht. This episode was gold. Mahalo!

[@Kelly-jc3jc]

Ha, I was thinking the exact same thing.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

It felt like Thor's hammer! It was a lot heavier than I anticipated.

[@Kelly-jc3jc]

@@tryingnottosink9107 Must mean you are worthy...

[@simonmassingham8032]

Wow that was hard work, great job 👏

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thank you 🤗

[@richardbohlingsr3490]

Well that was sure a tough job getting it out and my guess is it is original to the boat. It took a while for all the metal to rust away. Here is hoping it is an off the shelf model and not special built for Hatteras. It looks like the water seal to the hull broke down and salt water did it's trick on the windless. It's hard to win against Mother Nature. Best part it's off season and you not stranded in some port trying to find somebody to fix it for you. If you can get a Manufacturer and model number you may be able to get a parts list and schematic to show you how it fits back together. Best of luck and take your time, you'll get it done.

[@pigtyme]

Nothing sweeter than the wife offering you a victory cocktail!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

It is the only thing keeping me going during these repairs!

[@moore2522]

Bleah. Not looking forward to doing that job on our 53 Hatteras! I pretty much figure that ours is in the same condition. I knew that it didn't work when we bought the boat last year. I figured that it's a spring job but you've just convinced me to wait a bit!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I have been putting it off since I purchased the boat. I did not realize how bad it was until I started the project. I should have done it two years ago.

[@kevindriggars591]

Way to go gang!!! Time for a cocktail 🍸😎, I'm having one with yall, cheers 🍻👍😀

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I had three or four cocktails that night!

[@tomkuisis9496]

I always use a pulley puller for such things.

[@alg54]

The term windless takes on another meaning.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

LOL! I did not show it in the video, but it took me a while to maneuver the unit into a place where I could lift it out. Being old and having asthma does help much either!

[@lesb3481]

Unfortunately, I've been there and done that when my winch also went bad from age and corrosion. I did learn one thing from that project and others which have come up on my boat over the years. It's a good thing to own a sawzall with an assortment of blades......... and a satisfyingly large hammer too...

[@tryingnottosink9107]

A sawzall was definitely being considered. I was ready to start cutting if I did not get it out that day.

[@hotrodhog2170]

UGH! is all I have to say! I hope you can find someone to put the new one in! I had a feeling that thing was going to be a bear to get out! Good job man

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Nah, it will be me putting it back together. Part of the fun - right?! 😁

[@hotrodhog2170]

@@tryingnottosink9107 Yes sir!

[@CoastieVet1984]

Here’s a thought from an engineer: use a cut off disk and cut the shaft.

[@rideswithscissors]

@@fluke196c Might need to have room to install the new one anyway. We will see!

[@stevepark3865]

Yep, pretty ridiculous he took to cutting the boat, the thing he is keeping, instead of cutting the windlass, the thing he is throwing out

[@matthewholzmueller6292]

I thought that as well, but he us going to have the same problem during reinstall. If he buys new or rebuilt...somehow, I don't see how the shaft length would be shorter. Unless the new unit has a 2 piece gearbox and shaft.

[@CoastieVet1984]

I also suspect there is a way to remove the shaft from the drive unit but that unit was so rusty it may have been impossible to disengage it. Most of those type of assemblies have a removable shaft so that you can replace it if it breaks or shears a spline.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

The reason I did not cut the shaft was it was easier to cut the bulkhead. The bulkhead was actually two pieces of plywood, held together by a 1x2 plywood splice on the side of the bulkhead not shown in the video. If you notice, I am cutting through a seem that already existed between the two pieces, in order to cut the 1x2 on the other side. The vertical end of the bulk head was held on by a single nut and built. It turned out to be the right decision. I am purchasing a replacement gearbox and shaft from Galley Maid. They told me that the shaft and box come as a single unit, so I would have had to eventually remove the bulkhead to install it. When it comes time to reinstall, I'll show what I actually cut through.

[@rastagrastag9496]

Will you be doing a install video for the new windlass ??

[@bradwhite6254]

Not sure if it helped but I grunted for you when you picked up the windlass. Paying for the new one will be painful.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I am working with Galley Maid to just purchase the parts I need. Still, it will be at least a $2500 repair by the time I am done.

[@johnlottes7440]

Ed, Sawzall and a big gear puller (you can rent them). Brute force, while satisfying, can also break things, including you.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

A gear puller was my next option if banging the hell out of it did not work!

[@khoatran9482]

Yay! New video!

[@michiganengineer8621]

You're mentioning repairing (and recoring) a section of hull under the pulpit. The channel "Sailing Parlay Revival" is in the process of doing that right now on a couple of Sailing Cats, might be worth a watch.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks for the heads-up.

[@donaldpetrey5843]

Well an exploded rebuild blueprint I bet would have helped you a lot.

[@foreverfixin]

When he started this job I wonder how hard it will be it looks like a very hard job very heavy object in a tight space glad y'all got it out though looks like it's been leaking for a while

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I will be assessing the leaks this weekend. I am hoping the core damage is limited to underneath the pulpit.

[@AdventuresonTour]

Lets buy a boat he said, it will be fun he said LOL.... I feel for Capt. Ed's back after that one..

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I am not looking for to reinstalling!

[@waynehires2320]

“Check out the circumference “ 👍😂

[@mpaqman285]

May want to see if you can find a can or two of kano kroil. I've found it to be a bit better than pb when it comes to rusty/corroded messes, and your windlass was a hot one. That was pretty layered up and bound to be a task no matter how you tackled it.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks for the tip!

[@sportclay1]

Kroil is WAY better than PB blaster.

[@phillipsiviter2024]

That’s a sizeable hunk of metal, waiting on you to bring out an 8 pound sledge on it. Let’s hope the replacement windlass is lighter.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

That would be nice!

[@mrjlbarrett5556]

Good Job

[@seastate52]

Hi Ed i have hull#1 of the yacht fisherman line.I was wondering if that windless that you removed was a ideal .If so do you still have the motor .Would you like to sell it.Thanks Nick

[@tryingnottosink9107]

It was a Gally Maid. UPS lost the motor during shipping and I had to have a new one made. Unfortunately, I forgot to insure the package and I was out $1000.

[@seastate52]

@@tryingnottosink9107 Thanks for the come back.I am out in Spanish wells lifting my anchor by hand.It's getting old!

[@kevinmanning8214]

ALWAYS bet on the Captain!!

[@lesterwicklein717]

great job!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks!

[@johanlinnros]

Great job Ed!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks!

[@rickymccormick5312]

Good job cap

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks!

[@robertkleiman1502]

South Florida now

[@curthook9622]

Not only was it the hardest thing you have replaced, it’s probably going to be the most costly also

[@tryingnottosink9107]

You are probably right.

[@zapalskic]

You should have no problem with a new Maxwell extra clearance windlass.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

The extra clearance is still too short. I need 12". I am currently talking to Galley Maid about a rebuild.

[@chrisschoendorf6691]

The Maxwell .Vwc.3500 windless

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Tht might be the choice. I am currently talking to Galley Maid about a rebuild.

[@r52euphoria]

Hey Ed, been trying to get the windlass off of our Hatteras for a few days and then you post this, thanks. If you are chucking this one could I have any of your old parts that aren’t in to bad a shape. I think I have the same Galley Maid winch. What is this blaster stuff you mention?

[@ChristopherBristol]

PB blaster, it's a penetrating oil great for loosening rusted up hardware, you can find it online or at almost any auto parts store if your in the US

[@tryingnottosink9107]

PB Blaster is kind of like WD40, but better. It is sold everywhere. I am working with Galley Maid to purchase a gearbox and shaft, so I will be reusing my motor, relay box, wildcat and capstan. If anything changes I'll let you know.

[@r52euphoria]

@@tryingnottosink9107 K, thanks Ed, just got motor off but not the gear box, looks like I have to get the coupling off to get the little room needed to not jam on the hull. 2 mile walk to find a pipe and big sledgie, was your coupling reusable? or might mine break?

[@anthoneyking6572]

Wow that's some chunk of Metal and for sure it was time to re new it I bet you don't have any Problems replacing it but are they Costly ?? Great Vlog thanks

[@tryingnottosink9107]

A new Galley Maid of this model costs $5700. I am working with them on other options.

[@patrickleahy770]

Just started the video, but its GOT to be serious, Ed is wearing penny loafers!

[@patrickleahy770]

"stop your bragging" best comment ever!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

You know I am serious when I change out of my pajamas!

[@khoatran9482]

As someone who has had to removed some very rusted shitbox automotive parts more times than I've ever wanted to, You need to add heat to your tool kit my friend. Amazing job though!

[@jaquigreenlees]

Yet the boat itself will be damaged by heat. That is an extremely dangerous tool for use in these circumstances.

[@mattmoffet8790]

Small butane torch would work fine

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I actually tried a propane torch but did not include it in the video. I think the problem was I needed a second guy with a second torch to get the whole shaft collar hot enough.

[@khoatran9482]

@@tryingnottosink9107 nice a additional solution to your problem is go to the plumbing department and get the yellow (MAP gas) can instead of propane. It burns a lot hotter so it's easier to overcome heatsink. Either way, you bossed it nice job sir.

[@ericmitchell5350]

Great effort on successful task! How’s the core rot looking? Another Big job or did you get a little lucky?

[@tryingnottosink9107]

No too bad, but it will still be a project (video). About 2 square feet will need to be re-cored. All of it is under the pulpit. At least that is what I think. I haven't drilled test holes or used a meter yet.

[@ericmitchell5350]

@@tryingnottosink9107 I hope the repair is going ok!

[@jimh.5286]

Make a note to buy in 30 years an even heavier sledge hammer for the next windlass replacement .

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I hope I can lift an 8lb hammer in 30 years!

[@robertkleiman1502]

We're from Main Line. Lower Merion HS '76

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Pennsbury HS '80

[@masterselectrical8758]

What a Royal pain in the ass. How much do you figure you saved by doing the work yourself?

[@robertbennett6697]

When all is said and done and then redone correctly it probably won't be more than double a professional job.

[@andrewchang1368]

Maybe could have just sawzalled the shaft instead of the boat?

[@rastagrastag9496]

🤨🤨🤨I am about to tackle the same job

[@waynehires2320]

Do you edit out the curse words? I can’t tie a shoelace without “mf’n” it!?

[@robertkleiman1502]

Are you both original to Phila?

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We grew up in the Philly suburbs.

[@paulhaas4299]

One look at that thing no wonder it lasted 40 years.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

It seems everything in this boat was made to withstand a mortar attack.

[@patrickloring6914]

What ever happen to Rachel?

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Her wife is very high risk due to a transplant, so Rachel has been self quarantining since Covid.

[@patrickloring6914]

@@tryingnottosink9107 My thoughts and prayers are with them.

[@krautAmerican]

patch that old hole with fiberglass and buy a winch that bolts to the deck, not concealed in chain locker, then you can use any brand you want instead of trying to find an exact original replacement.....and you won't have to replicate that 3 inch rotten spacer

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Not sure if I could fit one that is strong enough on the pulpit. The space is limited. Besides, the Admiral won't let me. She likes the look of the Galley Maid.

[@krautAmerican]

maybe you can just get a machine shop to make a new shaft then have the motor gone thru, new bearings etc ..good luck and that was very dam heavy I have a hand crank one and I can barely lift it..

[@ferrelx]

With my luck the bow would of feel off 😒

[@r390radio]

Its great having a boat until it comes time to fix stuff like this. This is why they have boat shows in the winter. Nobody wants to fix the broken stuff so they just buy a new boat :)

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I hate doing the work but love having done it. It makes me feel like I really know my boat, and gives a sense of accomplishment. Plus, I am cheap!

[@davemoulding8799]

Better give that guy a hair cut over due

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Haven't cut it since Covid started. But definitely before we head to the islands in May!

[@r52euphoria]

Ok, hammer trick didn’t work, not big enough sledge, undid the gearbox but can’t get it out, stuck at about 6” down, enough for today try again tomorrow

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I am nothing if not persistent!

[@r52euphoria]

Yes you are but we are currently in Bonaire on our way to the Panama Canal and parts are hard to come by so I can’t afford to break anything that’s not broke already. By the way after getting the seal out was it damaged and need replacing? just another thing I’m worried about 🤔

[@vresor]

Yikes, that didn't look fun. Nice win though.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Happy to finally have it out. I plan to assess the core this weekend.

[@andrewbecker2580]

"KROIL" is a better product than PB Blaster

[@NVRick1]

I'm guessing we'll see the KC Chiefs try more than one wildcat in SB LV.

[@garypoltonowicz7950]

Well that didn’t look fun lol

[@tryingnottosink9107]

If only I had a strong cousin to help me lift it!

[@garypoltonowicz7950]

@@tryingnottosink9107 gotta let me know when you do the projects 😉

[@javierbetancourt9388]

100

[@davidjackson2115]

Ok, thanks for the confirmation of nothing but hassles for nothing at the other end. So ill do what I thought - after removing other crap {new to boats - but im raising the roof & extending after cutting cockpit out & using that steel cannabilize to repair rust holes} think Ill chop with anger grinder around my square windless {sides & front} bend whats left {the back} as bent Ill can get the lovey-dovey grinder between roof & windless set up. Utter utter pain. And I dont know why they have big ugly starter motors & not nice small motor with flywheel gear reduction. And regarding heavy hammer, I have lovey-dovy scrap metal solid round bar 75mm dia { in English // imperial = chinese - no offense to goobly-gook!} about 300mm long {ft} and that is handy swinging like a wrecking ball - a language other metal parts seem to understand.