Reports, Sightings and Anecdotal Evidence Billy the Kid Lived After He Was Reportedly Killed

In this episode, I address the claim made by neo-historians and those that support maintaining the historical status quo that no reports or sightings of Billy the Kid exist after his reported death on July 14, 1881.
Previous Episodes In This Series:
Brushy Bill Roberts AKA Billy the Kid: Was He Illiterate?:
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Brushy Bill Roberts AKA Billy The Kid: Could He Speak Spanish?:
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Brushy Bill Roberts AKA Billy The Kid: Did He Really Claim To Be A Member Of The James Gang?: • Brushy Bill Roberts AK...
Brushy Bill Roberts AKA Billy The Kid: Was He Really Oliver P. Roberts, Born In 1879?: • Brushy Bill Roberts AK...
Brushy Bill Roberts AKA Billy The Kid: Physical Similarities & Facial Recognition Study: • Brushy Bill Roberts AK...
Brushy Bill Roberts In His Own Words: The Lincoln County War & Debunking The Saga Of Billy The Kid: • Brushy Bill Roberts In...
Brushy Bill Roberts In His Own Words: The Outlaw Years Part 1 Meeting Governor Lew Wallace: • Brushy Bill Roberts In...
Brushy Bill Roberts In His Own Words: The Outlaw Years Part 2 The Death of Tom Folliard: • Brushy Bill Roberts In...
Brushy Bill Roberts In His Own Words: The Outlaw Years: Part 3 - The Death of Charlie Bowdre: • Brushy Bill Roberts In...
Brushy Bill Roberts In His Own Words: The Outlaw Years Part 4: Escape From The Lincoln Jail: • Brushy Bill Roberts In...
The Real Billy the Kid AKA Brushy Bill Roberts In His Own Words: The Shooting At Ft. Sumner: • The Real Billy the Kid...
The Real Billy the Kid AKA Brushy Bill Roberts: Books, Researchers & Authors: • The Real Billy the Kid...
Interview with Jimmie Thomas - 2nd Great Grandson of Odila Maxwell: • Interview with Jimmie ...
Book Source List with Amazon Affiliate Links: As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases:
The Hico Legend of Billy the Kid by Judge Bobby Hefner - amzn.to/46rr5lt
Billy the Kid: Killed In New Mexico - Died In Texas by Dr. Jannay P. Valdez and Judge Bobby Hefner - amzn.to/48ul3SU
Billy the Kid And Me Were The Same by William A. Tunstill - amzn.to/48pVeTU
Alias Billy the Kid by William V. Morrison & C.L. Sonnichsen - amzn.to/3B3vH4H
The Return of the Outlaw Billy the Kid by W.C. Jameson & Frederic Bean - amzn.to/3PKsbAt
Billy the Kid The Bibliography of A Legend by JC Dykes -amzn.to/3RwJ8Co
Whatever Happened To Billy the Kid by Helen Airy - amzn.to/3JVFSvk

[@vladimpaler9274]

I have always believed Brushy Bill was really Billy The Kid. I've been watching your videos all day and Brushy Bill knew stuff only Billy The Kid could've known. Thanks for the excellent information 👍🏻

[@brushybret]

Thanks for watching.

[@michaelwurm5288]

No he did not know inside information. Everything Oliver P Robert AKA Brushy Bill said could have been read in any one of the many books published at the time. He also claimed to be Frank James among many other lies. His own family and niece who cared for him produced his birth records. He was a fraud.

[@sinisinkane3157]

The most comprehensive work youll find on the topic hands down. Love the attention to detail.

[@brushybret]

Wow, thank you!

[@mohicanmachine99]

Hell yeah!!!

[@Seawolfaka]

You’d think there was photographs taken of the dead body . As Billy being a celebrity and all

[@luismiranda1985]

The number of photographers in the NM territory at that time was around three, photograph was not very wide spread specially in rural NM his known photograph was almost by chance as one of this photographers was passing by Sumner.

[@insertnamehere313]

There was a ton of photos taken in and of that area during the late 1870's and 80's so that number seems low and if Pat really wanted stone cold evidence he killed the kid and leave no doubt have and more fame he would have gotten a photographer there somehow. This is Pat's big moment and he blew it in several ways and that is suspect to say the least.

[@DavidThomas-qq4hf]

​@insertnamehere313 I agree completely with everything you said. Sooo many old west outlaws were photographed after their deaths. I said the same thing you wrote to my mother earlier tonight while on the subject of the kid and his lack of evidence after death. Any other posse that didn't kill the wrong man would have taken the body to the nearest large town and had it viewed and photographed etc. It just doesn't add up that he was so hastily buried a few hours later if it wasn't the wrong person. Just my thoughts and what common sense seems to suggest.

[@AlphabetSoup-z2b]

Not every dead outlaw was photographed. Cameras were scarce back then.

[@RichieRich64]

There is a Young Guns 3 coming out. I believe it is now in production. I wonder if Billy living after his supposed shooting will be a part of the storyline??

[@RichieRich64]

I’m glad they are making another movie but think about it, what else can they say that hasn’t been already said? I think him living after the fact will be the story, what do the rest of you think?

[@Charles53412]

It already was in Young Guns II!

[@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera]

I like all Brett's followers , and yg3 is alias billy the kid

[@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera]

@@RichieRich64 should be we will see , but I can promise you one thing if it ain't , it will be the breaking story of the century.

[@insertnamehere313]

I've been waiting for a new Brett Hall video..he never disappoints. Great job Brett.

[@r.e.tucker3223]

Excellent video. Thanks again for your research and work.

[@brushybret]

Thanks again!

[@stephanwatson7902]

Always glad to see another Brushy Bill video's been posted by this channel!

[@mohicanmachine99]

Amen!

[@Charles53412]

Well I hope this video is evidence that all is well Brett! Love hearing your insight and knowledge about this subject and am a firm believer in what William Tunstill and yourself have revealed. For my own research has uncovered evidence to the fact Brushy Bill was BTK and can be backed up by the evidence you both of brought forth. Even A.P. "Paco" Anaya's grandson confirms our findings. Thank you for the hard work of putting it all together for those of us that want to glean from your knowledge! Happy Trails!!

[@css31069]

I can't read BTK without thinking of the serial killer. Billy killed people but not quite the same. Haha

[@Charles53412]

@@css31069 Did you know the majority of the people BTK killed was in self defense?

[@Mark-fr8il]

Thank you Brett Hall for another interesting story. Im a believer that Brushy was Billy thanks to you.

[@michaelponce9199]

Awsome work Mr. Hall I do appreciate you and your research can't wait for whats to come. Thank you!

[@lauriealexander5857]

Love these❤❤❤❤❤thank you.

[@brushybret]

Glad you like them!

[@edwardmarapese254]

Awesome upload Brett I'm looking forward to your next upload

[@brushybret]

Thanks 👍

[@davidmorgan2366]

I know Pat Garrett didn't kill Billy the kid. My best friend's Dad growing was related to Pat Garrett and he shared a letter that basically said Pat shot the wrong man and it was a cover up

[@brushybret]

Do you know if this letter still exists and where it's located? If so, I'd be very interested in examining a copy. Thanks for sharing, and thank you for watching.

[@novelties-Antiques]

I have a newly discovered tintype with a young Billy the kid and Pat Garrett as friends

[@BEEZYS-WORLD]

Lets see it...yiu kno pat tended bar at beavers saloon and im sure they were cordial but pat and billy were not friends like hollywood tried to make ppl think ​@novelties-Antiques

[@novelties-Antiques]

@@BEEZYS-WORLD Trust me I wanna show you but I can’t because I’m in the process of trying to put it up for auction and as soon as it does everyone will see it also in the photo is wild Bill Hickok “verified” These were small towns back then everybody knew everybody whether they were best friends I don’t know but there was no reason for Pat Garrett to dislike Billy the kid everybody liked Billy the kid There’s a lot lies and misconception with all of the movies and documentaries one fact is Billy the kid’s brother was part of the younger gang along with Billy, they rode together they got in trouble together is it entirely impossible that they shot the wrong guy maybe he meant the wrong brother🤷‍♂️ maybe Billy took on the identity of his brother they looked really similar I bet there were some old timers that are passed away now that might feel the same way but no way in hell is bushy Bill Roberts Billy the kid😂

[@novelties-Antiques]

@@BEEZYS-WORLD just checked your page you look a lot like Billy the kid😳👍

[@randyspurgeon7859]

Hey Bret. Another point that could be made. If you look up the images Joseph Mcarty Antrim. There is one headshot of Joseph as an older man. Looks very similar to Billy. Both have the jug ears, similar facial features. Brothers often look alike. Maybe you could do a video on that. Put their faces side by side. Thanks for all you have done with this.

[@brushybret]

Excellent points! Thanks for watching.

[@novelties-Antiques]

@@randyspurgeon7859 wow you’re good Randy I believe that Billy the kid actually was the one who lived and I believe it was his brother that was shot by Pat Garrett maybe when they said “he shot the wrong guy “maybe they meant wrong brother they looked very similar and both of them rode with the younger gang

[@abrahamcollins9275]

I never believed that Pat Garrett killed Billy the kid, I've always believed that Bushy Bill Roberts was and is Billy the kid who lived and survived to be in the ripe older age.

[@phillipgarrett6849]

I don’t know how I’ve missed this video but it’s awesome! Kept me choked up as I have trucked all over the territory mentioned a big portion of my life and had no idea. I can well understand how a man wouldn’t want to get very far from these great roots! That a man of fortitude and the will to survive would do just that! He deserves heart felt friends!

[@e.f.3207]

Hot damn, another great installment! Good job, 👍 a damn good job. You're doing great work, and the honesty and integrity of your endeavors shines through. Thank you

[@brushybret]

Thanks!

[@jimmiethomas7194]

Another great job sir, thank you!

[@brushybret]

Thanks again!

[@williamfarley7134]

When I was a kid Young Guns was my favorite movie. Most kids wanted to GI Joes, Superman, or even Batman. I wanted to be Billy The Kid. I think the last three halloweens I dressed up and went trick or treating, I went as Billy the Kid. I remember finding out that Young Guns 2 was movie and I couldn’t believe it. There was no internet then to google anything. I always questioned weather Pat Garret shot Billy. I guess we will truly never know. I really hope they don’t butcher Young Guns 3.

[@glenstribling6123]

Pat Garrett was about image and reputation. Killing the wrong person "again", especially an inocent, would have been bad for his reputation/career and possibly neck. I think a deal was made to fix everything when he shot an inocent person.

[@SuperBill1020]

Im really enjoying your channel. It's amazing research. I love the commentary and If Garrett killed the kid your telling me there was no huge funeral or pictures the biggest outlaw was just killed a man beloved by people and his closed casket was just buried as fast as possible with an old cross

[@JasonRettmann]

It's so cool being in cox canyon listening to this thinking about the kid chasing cows up and down the canyon. Also there are local stories of Oliver Lee providing cover for Billy also deserve mention.

[@davidhall1840]

Brett Fantastic--Glad to see you again

[@TanyaDickerson-w4d]

You know what? That makes perfect sense. Very believable!

[@clemdawg4360]

I'm amazed at the depths people will go to defend their position. Now, I see people with videos saying, "the ears don't match. Experts say the shape of the ear never changes." They refuse to look at a lot of the evidence to defend Pat Garrett killing Billy. Have you heard this claim? If so have you looked into it? I'm about the facts. And from your documentary and others, I believe Brushy was Billy.

[@brushybret]

As far as the ear lobes go, the ears in the original, photograph were almost completely gone. The photograph, including the ears, was "retouched" by a man by the name of Noah Rose. Only the very top part of one of the ears was still visible in the tintype. This was mentioned by John Meigs in his report to The Lincoln County heritage Trust in the 1980s and has been discussed by acclaimed western photograph historian Robert McCubbin. Thanks for watching.

[@johnwelch615]

I also thoroughly reject the notion that Garrett and the Kid had any kind of accord. In my opinion, Pat Garrett was very close to being a coward. Garrett was not particularly known for being a pistolero. He was a Buffalo hunter who killed his prey from a distance, taking advantage of every opportunity to ensure his prey didn't know he was even there. He murdered Charlie and Tom only because he was certain he was shooting at Billy the Kid. And if he had ever had the opportunity to kill the Kid from 1500 yards away, and when Billy had no idea Garrett was even there? Garrett absolutely would not have even hesitated to kill him. I think the ONLY reason Pat Garrett survived as long as he did is because Billy the Kid was not a sociopathic, cold-blooded murderer. He was a young man living in a hard time when only men of meddle survived. John Tunstall gave the Kid a job, a home, a horse, a rifle and treated Billy like a young gentleman after a life of being cast-out, rejected, losing his mothe, and viewed as one of the dreggs of society by all. At the time of the Garrett hoax, Billy was only 21 years old and it's an almost certainty that Tunstall was the closest thing to a father figure the young man had ever known. He killed the men he killed, seeking the only justice available to him in a place so corrupt. It bordered on the despotic. When McSweeney died, it effectively ended the war for the Kid. He had exacted the maximum amount of retribution he could have and still survived. As much as Garrett would have gunned down the Kid? Billy the Kid had no desire to kill Pat Garrett, a former friend who had absolutely nothing to do with the murder of John Tunstall.

[@markparson4027]

Great research once again. I've always thought a movie should come about. You would definitely be a consultant.

[@brushybret]

Wow, thank you!

[@luismiranda1985]

My biggest concern with neo historians is their willingness to knock down anything that the status quo consensus narrative has led us to believe all this time Garrett killed the kid and that’s it, really!?

[@nickg9340]

Thanks Brett, can't wait to watch this, Keep up the good work buddy.

[@brushybret]

Thanks, will do!

[@Bama18NC]

Great job in following and presenting all the documentation as to the real story. From Burns and the like, it seems all of their "evidence" of the mainstream narrative boils down to one single account and that is from Garrett. Otherwise, what real evidence exists that Billy died in 1881? I don't understand how so many accounts, statements, story alignments and affidavits can just be brushed off and ignored without anyone having addressed them. So, all that really begs the question why so many people in power were willing to let Garretts story stand and let history believe this lie? Exactly what leverage did Billy's existence hold to where he needed to be dead and gone and exactly where was the big benefit for them to let this continue to be believed? (maybe those 2 questions are asking the same thing) I believe present day investigations with this amount of data would absolutely conclude that Billy died in Texas in 1950.

[@insertnamehere313]

Like a researcher once said said.. "Pat writing Billy's autobiography is like Jack Ruby writing Oswald's autobiography" Pat didn't kill Billy no more than I did..lol

[@Jdl343]

The fascinating question is why would all these people say, and in some cases sign documents to say that Brushy was. Billy? I don't think they would do it for money or for fame, but rather the truth.

[@RamiroMuñoz-d2v]

Good video...Brushy Bill , Billy the kid

[@brushybret]

Thanks for watching.

[@RamiroMuñoz-d2v]

Thank you for replying....I went to New Mexico on vacation twice to know more about Billy the kid..

[@bradpolegato4545]

Another great one Brett,awesome job

[@johnwelch615]

Brett Hall is to be commended for putting in the due diligence and revealing the truth over clamoring of the mainstream to paint Billy the Kid as some kind of lawless desperado. I salute you, Sir. Thank you so very much for very well researched content, presenting your sources so plainly. If only our modern media, academia, and archeology fields bore your integrity and commitment to standards of moral conduct in your endeavor. We have many less poorly informed people here on planet Earth. Much love and respect, my friend. 🙏

[@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera]

Good job Brett . Mucho appreciato amigo !

[@oreopuppydawg1564]

I don’t think Pat Garret killed Billy and Jesse James wasn’t killed by Ford either

[@EricMuhammed-i8t]

I Agree 👍💯

[@AnthonySolis-dp1gw]

Supposedly the guy that said he was Jesse James. They tested his bones and no match to the James family.

[@oreopuppydawg1564]

@@AnthonySolis-dp1gw actually there’s more than one

[@davess3032]

I couldn't agree more

[@davess3032]

Excellent video. Thank you

[@edisonedison7588]

The best thing is time for time will reviled the truth. We should question hour History for we being lied about the history of humanity., power to the true.

[@micahlangford76]

Awesome Content !!

[@brushybret]

Thanks!

[@MichaelCornwell-j7r]

Pat did not kill Billy, they were such good friends that when Pat caught up with Billy and he told Billy to go to Mexico and don't come back or he will have to kill him so they killed the other guy and Brushy Bill was not Billy

[@brushybret]

What specifically makes you think that Roberts wasn't the Kid?

[@jimmiethomas7194]

Thank you again Brett, the truth always prevails!

[@brushybret]

It's always good to hear from you, Jimmie. One of these days we need to do a follow-up.

[@jimmiethomas7194]

@@brushybret that would be great sir. I’m still amazed at the number of people who challenge the evidence and claim that Brushy was not Billy and Garret killed Billy. I guess some folks have made their mind up, fell for the lies, and won’t challenge their on own mentality. Just like they do with Kennedys death. That official story was a huge lie!

[@davidgriffiths2842]

I think your videos are great, however - how can it be that Garrett killed both Bowdrey and Folliard thinking they were the kid, and yet be Billy's best friend? Makes no sense.

[@Navigator001]

Great to see you back. Great job as usual.

[@johnwelch615]

I was fascinated with Billy the Kid at the age of 12. When I got a little older and put some thought to it, I never accepted that Garrett killed the Kid. Billy was in countless gun battles, almost always outgunned, and with him on the run, and where many of the regulators and subsequent men he rode with met their end... Billy the Kid had an instinctual knack for self-preservation. There's no way anyone can ever convince me that a man with Billy the Kid's natural gift for survival would, very stupidly, stumble into a dark room with the man who was hunting him, and who the Kid KNEW was in Ft Sumner. In addition, Billy the Kid was highly skilled with the iron. If he had been stupid enough to walk right past 2 of Garrett's posse, one of whom he knew, actually ask them who they were, and without knowing the answer, walk directly into that dark room? There's no way Garrett could have killed him without the Kid at least getting one shot off. Garrett was terrified of Billy the Kid, that's why he always attacked him from ambush and in darkness. You think the Kid didn't know that after Garrett murdered Charlie and Tom in ambush attacks when it was dark? If the Kid had gone into Pete Maxwell's dark bedroom that night? It would've been for the expressed purpose of killing Pat Garrett. And I wouldn't bet everything I owned on the Kid being the only one who walks away from that fight.

[@TheHaratashi]

I think my dad knew Billy well. I have to preface this with my family always had kids way late in life. My dad grew up in the 1920's on a ranch in New Mexico. There was a man that became a family friend of his family and would periodically hang around his ranch and was the right age to be Billy. He went by the name of "Old Doc.". I think Billy got the idea to call himself a doc from his friend Doc Scurlock. My dad didn't like very many people but he always spoke fondly of Old Doc because Old Doc had a very pleasant personality like Billy did. I wish i would have asked more questions about it before my dad died but i didn’t realize what some of the coincidences meant. I dont know for sure the family friend was billy but it is an interesting possibility.

[@mikeremillard3684]

Mr. Hall ive searched for your book the real billy the kid aka brushy bill.roberts and have had little luck... please lemme know where i can purchase a copy. Fantastic work and research and id love to read your work

[@FaceOfAmerica2.0]

AWESOME!! Another excellent Brett Hall vid!!! ❤️🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸

[@brushybret]

Thanks!

[@robertyoung300]

Listen to all your videos keep up the great work, can’t wait for the next episode.

[@brushybret]

Much appreciated!

[@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera]

We know many sightings now . And things brushy said ring true in history books on judge parker and on Indian territory incidents and the shipping of cattle to Liverpool and catching ponies in the Shetland islands 1894 ( hord cattle company)

[@rodneyaragon1238]

Love all that hard work Brett! Brilliant as always and look forward to the next one!

[@brushybret]

Awesome, thank you!

[@caseyaylward8853]

Also people have to remember there are millions and millions of dollars in tourism tied to the story of Billy being killed by Pat Garrett. Even today, in 2024, it is in the best interest of a lot of powerful people that's the story stays the way it is

[@rdd2devore409]

Great video, common sense tells you that as many letters and sightings outlined here and in books, Brushy was Billy the kid and ruse of his death just doesn’t hold up. For me, it really boils down to if you killed the most famous outlaw of his time and have zero imperial verification, it didn’t happen.

[@sylviapatterson3643]

As for Bushy Bill, I am doubtful, but I don't believe that Garrett killed Billy.

[@vladimpaler9274]

New subscriber, awesome channel 👍🏻

[@brushybret]

Thanks and welcome

[@vladimpaler9274]

@@brushybret Did you write the book The Real Billy The Kid AKA Brushy Bill Roberts? If so where can I buy a copy?

[@brushybret]

Yes, I did. It's currently out of print, but I'm in the process of updating it and hope to have it back out soon. When it's available, I'll make an announcement on my channel.

[@SVSaltyAbandon]

Didn't someone do a DNA test and prove that guy was not Billy the Kid?

[@brushybret]

@SVSaltyAbandon No DNA test was ever performed on either Roberts or the body in Ft. Sumner. In the early 2000s, two former Lincoln County Deputy Sherriffs attempted to have the grave in Ft. Sumner, Catherine Antrim, William Roberts, and John Miller exhumed for DNA testing. However, the powers that be in New Mexico fought this every step of the way by filing a series of lawsuits and legal motions that ultimately killed the plan. This is detailed in Billy the Kid Cold Case by W.C Jameson and The Dirty on Billy the Kid by Steve Sederwall.

[@SVSaltyAbandon]

@@brushybret Thanks for the reply. Did they do a test on someone that claimed to be Jessie James?

[@novelties-Antiques]

I had no idea that the ancestors had written accounts that Billy the kid was not killed by Pat Garrett this is huge! just the other day I found a new tintype photo of Billy the kid with Pat Garrett in the photo as friends. it is the best known tintype so far that has been found and has not been released to the public yet. The photo is so well done it puts goosebumps and chills down my spine

[@brushybret]

I look forward to seeing it someday. Thanks for watching.

[@novelties-Antiques]

@@brushybret I have a photo for you where should I send it

[@DavidThomas-qq4hf]

When will it be seen? Why hasn't it been released?

[@frankgormley1296]

Excellent work as usual. 🙌🙌🙌

[@brushybret]

Thanks!

[@garyhowland8883]

Same with Jesse James they faked his death how can u let one brother go when they both done the same

[@hudsonthedog1]

You videos have some great content and love the history and listening to them. I have a question for you. I assume there are still some of the letters wrote to the governor. Has Nobody taken a sample of Roberts hand writing and compared it to the letters billy Wrote ??

[@brushybret]

I discuss the handwriting question in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmLNaZaDZsearbM thanks for watching.

[@colleenbonniwell4226]

He died ....in '35 🌹Rest in Peace Billie We called him Bonnie .

[@robertwilliamson2596]

I believe Billy the kid really didn't die .

[@alrandall5264]

I thought that it had been established, by official documentation and HIS family's testament that Brushy Bill was too young to be Billy the Kid.

[@brushybret]

Most of his family believe him, in fact I have about a dozen signed affidavits that verify this. As far as I'm aware, during my 30 plus years of researching this only two claimed family members have come out against him, one a very distant cousin, that never met him and one claimed to be his niece. However, according to Roberts family bible, he didn't have any nieces! Here is a video I already published debunking the claim that he was too young. Thanks for watching.

[@DanaHutt]

What about the people that said Pat killed Billy? One even said you killed my Billy or boy??

[@brushybret]

That was Deluvina Maxwell, who later said it wasn't Billy. Here is a link to my video where I break down all the events of the night Billy was purportedly killed and compare it to Brushy Bill's account. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6Cof56pia2ira8

[@RubenSalapang]

I love this man

[@prophez23]

If you just go with the documented statement of all who was there when Billy was supposedly shot by Garrett then it really doesn't make sense. I think anyone who has a half a brain would agree that if you were heavily wanted and had a big chunk of money on your head and had been known to escape jail and you know that there's several poses out looking for you you're not just going to walk past someone (Poe) who you don't know that just so happens to be on the porch of your friend then proceed to go into a dark room unarmed and ask who is there?... Maybe back in those days a story like that would go unquestioned but these days everyone would be calling BS to it. I've gone back and forth with questioning if The Kid was actually killed that night and I first didn't believe it but then after many years researching into it and living here in New Mexico and talking with people about it I changed my mind and excepted that he probably was killed that night but it wouldn't stop nagging at me and I don't know if it's because I truly don't want to believe he was killed or what but I really just feel like he wasn't and if I put myself in his shoes with everything that was going on at the time I can say without a doubt that I would not have walked into Pete's room unarmed in the dark with people who I didn't know hanging around outside. None of that makes sense when you put all the variables together. So now I'm leaning back towards the notion of him not really being killed. Whether or not he was Brushy Bill I won't ever be able to say for sure but I can say with a fair bit of confidence that he wasn't killed by Garrett that night. But the ultimate reality is that unless some kind of profound never before seen undeniable evidence pops up providing that Billy the Kid didn't actually get killed by Garrett none of us will be able to say for certain one way or another. And I tend to not give much credit to anyone who claims they know for certain without a doubt that he wasn't killed cause no one will ever truly know. It's very interesting to go over everything we've come to know throughout the years and try to figure it out one way or another but sadly nothing we have right now can show for certain he wasn't killed. And as much as I want him to not have been killed by Garrett or all the evidence I've seen saying that he actually was I will never say for certain that I know one way or another. The only thing I can say for sure is that living here in New Mexico his spirit still rides these old trails and if you know where to look you'll still see that same old west outlaw era living on. Thankfully those old times haven't been covered up by the modern day and busy people. This state holds all of that old spirit still vastly untouched and I'm so thankful for that. Not many places can say that now days.

[@bradhurd6097]

I've been following this story my whole life. I'm not a historian or some sort of expert but I have lived in those places. I think if there are answers to be had then they are in the Old World. I think the Lincoln County war was a feud from the Mother Land. If Billy was English he died. If he was Irish he lived. The problem with that is that there is no way that Billy could have been Irish. There is one caveat to that though, but I'm not at liberty to state that.

[@colleenbonniwell4226]

brushy ....good cover

[@Last_Chance.]

Only dna would verify this but historians don't want to be wrong. Smdh. I don't know if bill was billy but I don't believe that pat killed billy that night. "PALS"

[@JoseRodriguez-bc6pz]

Brushy bill looks nothing like BTK

[@brushybret]

I did a video discussing this which includes a facial recognition study conducted by the University of Texas-Austin which concluded Roberts and the man in the Dedrick-Upham Tintype were a statistical match. The study was led by two PhD scientists who used a nationally recognized facial recognition program used throughout the world, by multiple law enforcement agencies, and is admissible in court. The methods used in the study were peer-reviewed and published in two scientific publications. Furthermore, the results were reviewed and confirmed by two independent arbiters. Here is a link to the video with full source citations. Thanks for watching. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2muoayHicl1nM0

[@Jen-lf5jm]

Brushy bill wasn't Billy the Kid. He wasn't even close to the same age. Brushy bill was born something like 20 years after Billy was supposedly shot by Garrett

[@brushybret]

@@Jen-lf5jm I already published a video debunking the 1879 birth claim using census, employment, and genealogical records, and unlike those that seek to discredit Roberts I show you the supporting documents and sources on the screen as I'm citing them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3ycoIWuptKYm5I

[@1lthrnk]

We know where his mother and brother are buried so it should be pretty easy to get a DNA sample from them and a comparable sample from the body in the grave

[@brushybret]

This was tried in the early 2000s, by two former Lincoln County Deputy Sheriffs. However, the powers that be in New Mexico fought this every step of the way by filing a series of lawsuits and legal motions. The plan was to exhume the body of Catherine Antrim in Silver City, the body in Ft. Sumner, Brushy Bill Roberts, and John Miller. Joe Antrim's body was donated to science upon his death, so he's not an option for obtaining DNA. This is all detailed in the books, The Dirty on Billy the Kid by Steven Sederwall and Billy the Kid: Cold Case - Investigating History's Mysteries by W.C. Jameson.

[@jonpittman5845]

Dude, you rock

[@brushybret]

Thanks!

[@earlclue]

he would of sent letters a some point to antagonize a number of different people, he never did

[@brushybret]

Salazar said he wrote him a letter, and several people reported seeing him and talking to him in person.

[@ClovyunAllen]

Brushy bill was billy the kid

[@barrister99]

Darn right!

[@harper7509]

Y'all are going to prison for paying Kid Rock to take me out and you're gonna give back what you stole from me too.

[@glennwebster1675]

I will say this.... I know for a fact it's pretty easy to fly under the wire when no one is looking for you.... especially at that time. How about this.... Brushy / Billy later killed pat.

[@bethbartlett5692]

Mercy, isn't DNA enough evidence? It is proven.

[@Tony-fish1]

Who has dna

[@slim22nun]

My question is where did they find dna? Billy didn’t have any kids and as far as I know there isn’t any living relatives of Billy.

[@davidhall1840]

@bdd1469 Yea you and Josh must live together!!!! You both believe everything the Liar Pat Garrett says

[@colleenbonniwell4226]

Michigan

[@DemetriusJackson-yb4lk]

Billy the Kid is alive and well living in Sante Fe

[@dr.phillnaadoftennessee.9788]

Brush Bill was way too young to be Billy the kid...

[@brushybret]

I already published a video debunking the claim Roberts was too young using census, employment, and genealogical records. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3ycoIWuptKYm5Isi=l7Mo7AwkupXAzuqR

[@darryllucas7032]

Brushy bill was not billy the kid 1:27, reason he was born to years after billy,and billy died of heart attack

[@brushybret]

I already published a video debunking this claim using census, employment and genealogical records and unlike those who seek to discredit Roberts I show you the actual documents and sources on the screen as I'm citing them. Thanks for watching. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3ycoIWuptKYm5I

[@Ritewing-c8r]

I don't know if you know but I seen a thing with brushy bills tapes found is that really his voice it sounds made up

[@brushybret]

Do you have a link, as I'm not really sure what you're referencing?

[@sharontyler9751]

Too many 'quote' 'unquote' statements - tedious after a short time. I suppose if someone is going to be particular about that much detail, they will be particular about potential legalities. Still tedious though!!

[@brushybret]

@sharontyler9751 I know it can be tedious, but I have to properly cite the source, or I risk being accused of plagiarism. Thanks for watching.

[@sharontyler9751]

@@brushybret keep up the great work!!

[@navydogsadventures3500]

People saw Elvis too. Come on!!

[@brushybret]

Could you cite some specific examples?

[@navydogsadventures3500]

@@brushybret Not off the top of my head, it was always on TV. Sightings of Elvis. Not buying the BS. Remember this, I was alive when he died. There were always people saying they saw Elvis.

[@brushybret]

​@@navydogsadventures3500 But did these reports originate from reliable individuals who were known to the subject or close relatives of those associated, as in the case of those cited in the video (i.e. Yginio Salazar, Frank Coe, George Coe, Jim Herron John Poe etc.etc.)?

[@navydogsadventures3500]

@brushybret There were pictures and videos. Here is the psychology of people. They will say things that aren't true just to get attention.

[@johnwelch615]

And if there's any lesson we can glean from studying the Kid's involvement with the Lincoln County war? That lesson is that if the Kid wanted you dead? #1. It was because you were involved in murdering his unarmed friend. And #2 your life was almost certainly going to end before his, and odds are, you were going to die by his hand.

[@mohicanmachine99]

Yes!!!! I watch well listen as I weld and work hard,honestly to feed my kids all the time! Glad ur still working n busting ass to prove brushy bill n billy the kid are same dudes! Proud of u too man!!! Thank u.

[@HomicideHenry]

Mr Hall, Do you think you can send me copies of the affidavit/article on Harry Anthony? I'd like to research him more. Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all

[@brushybret]

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