Repub Karen’s JAW-DROPPING Defense Of ERASING American History

Erica Layton, a Republican member of New Hampshire State's House of Representatives, gave a ridiculous defense regarding a proposed bill that would prohibit teachers from teaching racism’s role in American history. Layton claims that the Three-Fifths Compromise didn’t favor slaveholders and wasn’t an inherently racist policy. Ana Kasparian and John Iadarola discuss on The Young Turks. Watch LIVE weekdays 6-8 pm ET. kzbin.infolive
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"We asked co-sponsor @EricaForDerry how she thinks teachers should approach a subject like the Three-fifths Compromise in the United States Constitution if HB 1255 -- which explicitly prohibits teaching that the U.S. was founded on racism -- was to become law. #NHPolitics”
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"Thanks to all that pointed out my errors, that is how we learn. HB1255 will not stop discussion in the classroom, it prevents a teacher from advocating one viewpoint. Teach how to think, not what to think."
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[@keelyjohnston19]

Great Britain has a bad history but we still learn about it in school.

[@smaakjeks]

Thank goodness we here in Scandinavia have no dark and violent history to speak of. Humans settled here a few thousand years ago, after the great ice sheets melted, then there was a big gap from like 800-1066CE where nothing really happened, and then you know the rest. Edited to add: Apparently my joke was too subtle for several people. I specifically mention the period 800-1066 as being without events because that was the viking era. I'm being facetious.

[@keirfarnum6811]

@@smaakjeks 😆😆😆😆😆

[@joeylane2408]

We still learn about our history his in the USA too. The problem is some people wants to say the whole country was completely founded on racist just wasn’t true.

[@shafx1987]

Wouldn't say it's correct history though... But probably better than what's being discussed here

[@chrisll3874]

Can't imagine you have enough time for all the bad of empire. lol

[@zaidarivas7152]

Imagine having such a horrible history that you ban your children from learning it. Just imagine. You don't have to imagine. That's exactly what this is. smh

[@patriciacardona1781]

The truth is not easy, but facing its reality helps us learn what not to do .

[@modelcitizen72]

The Germans teach their kids about what World War Two, including about the Holocaust. Their Chancellor Willy Brandt kneeled in front of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising Memorial. This does not weaken them at all. I wish more Americans accepted that.

[@jakejonas7366]

I’m an American who’s family emigrated here at the beginning of the potato famine. 2 of my ancestors were indentured servants and we have records of my great great however many great grandfathers journals that discuss working for a place to live, food to eat and being able to support his wife and 4 kids. The downsides of feeling like he owed his life to the contract he signed (.willingly which slaves never had such option of consent) and the shitty conditions he lived under until he paid his debt off and saved to move somewhere nicer with his family. He was in no way a slave, not even close and I get so annoyed with people who conflate the two. One was a contract signed willingly for a place to live, food to eat and shelter for his wife and kids. The other was human beings being sold to slave traders and forced to come to America and forced to work nonstop against their will. I’m proud to be an Irish American but I’m not proud of people using my family’s experience and my heritage to downplay the seriousness of slavery and compare it to indentured servitude to minimize the Barbary of slavery.

[@topher7276]

We all should learn from our history, but if our history is not taught to our students, how are they suppose to learn from it? We need to learn from our mistakes, for the betterment of society!

[@liloulux2739]

As a a German: just tell the truth! Teach the children the facts and thruth so that the darkest part of your history has less chance to repeat it self.

[@williethomas5116]

It is already started repeating itself.

[@frankmarano1118]

When I was in school like a decade ago they taught us about all the bad things america did in regards to slavery etc. I think that's why these nutjob right wingers are trying to change that fact. I've also heard Germany does a good job teaching about their mistakes during WW2. Have I heard that right?

[@frankmarano1118]

@@williethomas5116 Exactly! Which shows how naive the thought, "Well that couldn't happen again.. right?" is. It shows we need to learn about our past mistakes more than ever before

[@MarcF.Nielssen]

@@frankmarano1118 Germany doesn't just teach its history in school. There are are dozens if not hundreds of historical documentaries on TV every year. I am impressed how great the effort is to be accurate in every way.

[@frankmarano1118]

@@MarcF.Nielssen Yup, looks I heard exactly right then! You see hearing that makes me have a lot of respect for current day Germany. I'm italian american but obviously have lived in america my whole life.. but hearing that makes me want to visit Germany some day along with Italy. Nothing could be more reassuring about a country then teaching its darker parts of history & making sure the current day doesnt forget. Theres a video of a nazi rally from WW2 in New York & the imagery is very disturbing because you realize wow, it could've happened literally anywhere. Even the parallels with modern day american politics is.. unsettling.. to say the least. We must always remain vigilant

[@elizabethellis9062]

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it…but maybe that’s what some people are hoping for.

[@dannylesbile8592]

Its already being repeated with people believing their supperior because they dress like everyone else especially people of color in some states problem is when they can they choose revenge on the less fortunate whites feeding the cycle making the Tucker Carlson's seem right poor white's aren't the problem without the Trump GOPs propaganda machine they probably would be Democrats the problem is not only racism its cultural class warfare what do liberals n Republicans have in common a perdomominantly Rich white leadership

[@dougcurrie3025]

Let's hope they learn enough quickly to avoid needless death.

[@trentonjenkins2243]

Facts!!!!

[@bonnieprice9482]

Some are ..they want to go back 60 years..

[@d.h.dd.h.d.5230]

Valid point...

[@abilitycrafting864]

She does understand what she's talking about. She just wants to teach your children lies.

[@Human-Equals-Garbage]

I love that she said "thanks to all that pointed out all my errors, that is how we learn" but she doesn't want to teach ANYONE about Americas errors. That is want you call a hypocrite.

[@4_the_health_of_it]

We fought a war over slavery… it was not on its way out.

[@darrellboone9274]

It was even in the southern secession declaration of independence,that they were fighting to preserve the institution of slavery🤯🤬

[@Lelffy]

My guess is that most of the GOP would fail the US naturalization test.

[@JamesMarkWilburn]

I was raised and educated in Mississippi during the middle and late 1950’s and the early 1960’s and at no time was taught the evils slavery before 1865 or legacy of slavery since into the 1960’s when I left public education. I was not taught about the evils of the KKK, the evils of segregation and the evils of restricting African Americans from voting. I was not taught about the 1954 Supreme Court concerning the Topeka Board of Education. I was taught that being White, I was better than Blacks. It took a year of college in California, a liberal education, the Civil Rights Movement and the death of Martin Luther King to begin to open my eyes. I am not where I need to be, but thank God I am not where I was. If schools of this country are going to teach American History, teach it with truth, includes its successes and flaws.

[@issacehowardjr679]

You can't change where we came from, whether it was a hundred years ago or just a minute ago. Besides, you gotta know where you came from in order to know where you are going.

[@ml.2770]

Imagine how ridiculous this would sound if Germany decided to not teach about the holocaust.

[@MarcF.Nielssen]

The deterioration of US mentality, discourse and morality is mind-boggling.

[@michaeldowner2337]

Deterioration? Nothing built on a lie can be reformed

[@MarcF.Nielssen]

@@michaeldowner2337 Just as things are now getting worse, they could also be made better. The only thing we cannot change are the laws of nature.

[@michaeldowner2337]

@Alpha Why? Weed is legal here. LOL

[@majorlazor5058]

@@michaeldowner2337 exactly. This mentality has existed since the inception of the county. A group of Slave owners claiming to fight the monarchy to create a free nation is the most laughable concept if you look at it from an objective view. Thank goodness a handful of the founding fathers were abolitionists and planted the seed for a better future.. George Washington was not an abolitionist, Charlie Kirk and Vaush… sorry, got triggered.

[@michaeldowner2337]

@Be Tesla 🎈🤡

[@irdeuce]

This kind of thing has been going on for decades, just not at these levels. Growing up in Oklahoma in the 80's, we were taught about statehood and the Trail of Tears, but the way it was taught did not emphasize how horrible the Native Americans were treated. The history books we used told it like they were moved to Oklahoma and given land for their own good instead of the land grab it really was. The books mentioned that many Native Americans lost their lives on the trek to Oklahoma due to the harsh weather and long walk. It didn't say that they were beaten and forced to march here. I wish that everyone could just get along and be kind to one another. I feel sick.

[@martiwaterman1437]

Thanks for this . I often hear about how slavery is taught, or not taught. I’ve often wondered how The Trail of Tears is taught particularly in states with Native American populations, like Oklahoma. Not surprising to hear the magnitude of forced displacement was glossed over.

[@jamiegagnon6390]

@@martiwaterman1437 We call it ethnic cleansing nowadays...

[@martiwaterman1437]

@@jamiegagnon6390 yes, ethnic cleansing…continues throughout the world. Man’s inhumanity to man is universal seemingly never-ending.

[@profanepersonality]

She is just going to lie, and then try to use that as an excuse?

[@thorssensgamesNCC1701]

Teach the truth, no matter how ugly, offensive, or difficult. Show the reasons things are the way they are, and how much work America still needs.

[@nswanberg]

When the truth hurts it means you are living a lie.

[@callen8908]

How do we progress as a civilization if we don’t recognize and learn from our mistakes? How do we progress as individuals if we don’t do that? The entire concept of denying realities because they are uncomfortable is self-sabotage

[@kimsteed9401]

I'm 58y and still searching and learning about our history, and my ancestry. It's an inner need to know. It would be such a huge neglect to teach students to believe in a re-edited version of history. It would feel like mental abuse to me if I couldn't learn truths.

[@loritracy1385]

I don't remember the name of it, but there's a fantastic documentary about how Germany teaches WW2, so they NEVER repeat that mistake. Such respect for how transparent & straight forward they are.

[@Silhouex]

You don't have to hide from your mistakes if you've grown from them.

[@marlenebulger6822]

We aren't racists, but, let's NOT teach the truth about our founding father's racism. I think I understand????

[@WraithAllen]

I learned about slavery, the civil rights movement, and other things in US history that weren't so great. I never felt bad about myself, never felt uncomfortable about what was discussed or taught, never felt anything really negative at all. I read widely outside the required readings, and listened and learned. I received a pretty broad-based education. The fact that people want to change history that is taught or that otherwise wants to ban teachers from discussing actual historical events is not seeking to educate children, but to indoctrinate them in a specific ideology and political viewpoint - namely one that is based on heterosexual white conservative Christian Nationalism. The failure to accurately and completely teach history will mean we will be doomed to repeat it and the population will be subject to easy manipulation. It is authoritarian, and it is what George Orwell warned about repeatedly in his writings....

[@fallen4life080]

Yup, adult white people like to project their insecurities onto children. They act like white children are getting their feelings hurt about what happened in the past but all children are blank canvases by which they're naturally willing to try and be nice and kind to each other and want to fix errors and NOT immediately feel like they're being attacked for the errors of the past and even present.

[@rickmoran8644]

I was told “We need to move on from slavery. It’s over with.” Yet you continue to benefit from it.

[@nofaith5994]

Can you imagine being so ashamed of your country that you don't want its history openly discussed?

[@leroyashley4478]

No Faith, it's not the matter of them being ashamed of them being ashamed of their country, they are ashamed of what they've done to other human beings

[@tbone11368]

This is why I tell folks never believe what you hear comes out of a white person’s mouth about America

[@timmyb7734]

It's called China.

[@tbone11368]

@@timmyb7734 No idiot it’s called white America

[@haroldspence8366]

Why is America ashamed of their past history they weren't ashamed when they were doing it. If you don't teach it your bound to repeat it like their trying to do now. Face it black people are not going backwards!

[@cheryldeboissiere1851]

As a historian, I don’t rule it out but I will say it has a very unlikely chance of ever happening again. At this point, you would have to have a tailored genetic disease and race goes a lot deeper than visual, so it wouldn’t work out. Also historically, when people are freed, they just become new citizens of a new society. Look again, at a later time, it becomes faded memory and never reoccurs. Easy example, Hebrew slaves became free and even though often suffering the vagaries of history and outrageous mistreatments, they never returned to slave. Ghettos, Spanish Exclusion laws, Nazi death camps. So don’t rule out some later problem. After all, we did wind up withTrump as President.

[@modelcitizen72]

People are ridiculous. Foreigners will know American history more than Americans will.

[@rse4379]

I have traveled to many countries. In the majority of encounters I have had, foreigners already know more about our country than some of our own citizens.

[@andrewfisher3035]

That is still how many Americans think and feel and believe is a reasonable position to take. Frightening but true

[@darthbrandon2149]

I was amazed at the racist's ability to spit out a HUGELY worded talking point about "black human beings were counted as less than human because it was a good thing to do that". I listened closely to what the racist had to say, and I thought to myself "The racists certainly are getting slick with their talking points. To a less intelligent person, what the racist is saying almost makes sense". 🙄

[@darthbrandon2149]

@chums I think the white racists would prefer not to count dark-skinned human beings at all.

[@loki2240]

Well, when you believe that dropping 2 atomic bombs on cities was the right thing to do, the Three-Fifths Compromise isn't much of a stretch.

[@loki2240]

@@darthbrandon2149 - It's not a matter of intelligence or even education level. It's a matter of wanting to believe in American Exceptionalism, or at least that America is "the good guys." It's a lot easier to get people to believe what they already want to believe. Look at Christian apologetics. All of those arguments are bad, and almost all of them are terrible. But they're embraced by people who already want to believe Christianity. And there's a lot of overlap between Christian apologetics and American apologetics, in the types of arguments, the people who make the arguments, the people who embrace the arguments, etc.

[@loki2240]

@chums - I didn't respond to you. I made a a separate point.

[@jesreyes1472]

Now that lady, right there, isn't one whole American, and it's not because she claims to be part Cherokee. The government should count HER as being only 3/5th's of a person for knowing only 1/5th of this country's true history. What an embarrassment!

[@edwardmullendore2007]

Yep and the kkk white skin heads oath keepers proud kids none of them are pure white but they think they are

[@majorlazor5058]

She represents a larger part of this nation than the two of us would be comfortable accepting.

[@mooredrat5065]

Why do the conservatives always assume that teaching about slavery "would make children feel ashamed?" Why wouldn't the lesson be: "feel *proud* over how much progress we've made since then?"

[@modelcitizen72]

Yes! Abolitionists finally prevailed. There were slave revolts (some successful, see Haitian independence) free Black people fighting for abolition and there were white allies. I think teaching about the resistance and fighting against slavery including white people who did so makes the story a lot easier to digest, at least for the people who don't miss slavery.

[@Kenjiro5775]

What we really need to do is buy every religious property via imminent domain an turn them into science, arts and cultural centers.

[@drdr76]

We don't need to buy them. Make them pay taxes like every other business!

[@mikejunior80]

Here's a thought: To the teachers that are facing the dubious questions about their "loyalties" to the United States I say this; teach the truth. Patriotic duty demands it.

[@dmoe0074]

If this was the case why is kneeling unpatriotic when a higher ranked military person which was white though of it for kapernik??

[@brittmai]

Descendent of an Irish indentured servant here. Dear slavery apologists: STOP DRAGGING US INTO THIS. We were NOT slaves. Our indentured servitude was in NO WAY comparable to chattel slavery!! Sincerely, an informed Genealogist.

[@truthhurts6327]

What a loud of BS my father and mother is Irish. Read up on Oliver Cromwell and James ll’s policies in lreland then get back to me, this predated indentured servitude bs. Stop playing with words The original slaves was pale face people The word Slave comes from slovic or white Europeans. White Europeans were slaves to all for thousands of years.

[@majorlazor5058]

Britt. Thank you. As an African American this kind of post relieves a lot of stress to know at least one nonblack person acknowledges my family’s reality. More often than not I hear the outside world downplay the hardship my ancestors have faced. You would not believe the unsolicited comments random people and so called friends have made to me mitigating American slavery.

[@brittmai]

@@truthhurts6327 I love it when random people tell me to "read up" like I'm not a Certified Genealogical Researcher with a post-graduate degree specializing in Irish History. I am well aware that we Irish have suffered GREATLY throughout history, but Chattel Slavery is NOT something we can even remotely claim as our own. Admitting other people have suffered worse takes nothing away from our own suffering. It's not a competition. And it's not "playing with words" just because you don't understand that there is a fundamental difference between indentured servitude and chattel slavery. Thanks, though. 👍

[@brittmai]

@@majorlazor5058 It's my personal and professional opinion that Irish-Americans should be amplifying the voices of African Americans in this plight. I have done most of my post-graduate work researching the Irish Genocide, and for the life I me I can't understand how any Irish person could know their own history and not have anything other than immense compassion for the suffering of others under racism and bigotry. Any person claiming Irish heritage who is not a staunch supporter of Racial Justice does a discredit to their own ancestry. And the fact remains that nothing suffered by the Irish came anywhere close to the generational trauma suffered by African Americans under chattel slavery, the effects of which (quite clearly) remain in the form of institutional racism. That guy who commented above has some seriously misplaced anger issues that he needs to work out, and it sadly sounds to me like he has been programmed by the great hate machine. The irony is that he seems to think that everyone ought to be educated about the injustices done to the Irish, but presumably is against educating young Americans about the heinous injustices done to African Americans. I can't make it make sense.

[@majorlazor5058]

@@brittmai I have very passing knowledge of Irish history. Is this genocide related to the famine during the English Queen Victoria’s reign?

[@margaretkirby5424]

She also said that slaves voted. And implied that if their “votes” were as a full human and that would have weighted the vote in favour of continuing slavery. As if slaves would vote for slavery. Who brainwashed that woman? The point of counting slaves at all shows just how disgusting the south was- they did not consider them human. It was a cynical way to increase their voting power!

[@Alx7168]

Good, bad, or ugly we must have accurate teaching.

[@jeromejooste3493]

Luckily the rest of the planet has the real American history well documented and readily available online.

[@joehiku7136]

😂😂😂🤣 history in the making 5 years of the 45th president of America to destroy American Democracy.

[@jessebianchi2631]

After the fall of the old ussr russian historians traveled here to learn their own history. i doubt they'll return the favor.

[@loki2240]

Misinformation and disinformation spread much easier on the internet than valid information. You should already know that. "The internet saving us from ourselves, with fact and reason," is a pipe dream that was proven wrong years ago. People go on the internet to confirm their biases, and algorithms feed people's confirmation bias and can even make people worse by radicalizing them with more extreme content.

[@joehiku7136]

@@loki2240 but all can be fact checked you should know that....

[@loki2240]

@@joehiku7136 - Do you not understand what confirmation bias is? Lots of people aren't interested in fact. Or at least they're more interested in confirming their own biases than fact. Look at QAnon, Stop the Steal, the alt-right, Birthers, etc. Yet, people won't go online to see what's in the infrastructure bill or what's being proposed in the Build Back Better bill.

[@Ab0minati0n]

I thought the idea of history was to inform and educate the present cohort to ensure those types of events cannot happen again.

[@Lord_Bibulous]

There's the rub. These assholes deep down want some of these things to happen again.

[@majorlazor5058]

Apparently the point of history white nationalist propaganda.

[@Mike.Muc.3.1415]

It's kind of funny how teaching the history of the systematic genocide towards native Americans is never discussed.

[@charlescummings1128]

Native Americans, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians all have been victims of the extremists in this society. You know the same people who are trying to overthrow OUR DEMOCRACY Today.

[@orangecreamswirl3078]

How else will kids know how the country began?

[@forexed8948]

From the first nations tribes who descended from peoples that crossed the Bering Land Bridge, from the Skandinavian Norse that made their colony in New Foundland around the 10th century AD, from the Europeans that came to attempt to settle, and would later succeed, from the slaves sold in the colonies and states from the 17th century to the 19th century. From the immigrants of Asia, from the Mexicans who lived in the south western lands taken from Mexico in the 19th century, etc,.

[@robertdahse4569]

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it

[@mikec886]

This sounds like trumps new social media platform...

[@consciouseffort2789]

If we don’t learn from our history we are bound to repeat.

[@pamelawing5747]

Is anyone here old enough to remember the days of essays in school? I typed on for my brother that he had to do on the Civil War or events relating to it. He elected to do a report on John Brown. OMG, how COULD ANYONE learn about the Civil War, racism, Reconstruction, and other incidents related to that war? A war that have 620,000 deaths by the way. THAT, of course, should never be discussed. The fact that more people died in that war than WWII, Korean War, Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Spanish American War, Mexican War, and WW1 COMBINED. Let us just bury that event. WFT if WRONG with these people?

[@eltorocal]

The Jayhawkers and the Bushwackers...

[@RandomSpawnify]

WTF... If we ignore the lessons of the past, we are doomed to repeat it. This is just asinine what these lawmakers are suggesting.

[@waydewilson4457]

This legislator shouldn’t be writing laws regarding history if she doesn’t know it herself.

[@erichoppe8228]

That's like saying Trump should not be a US President if he does not know how to the job!!!!!

[@kenbohl2176]

And her great great great grandmother was an american princess and she was their cheifs son and her mother was a shaman who wrote mystic prophecies in peanut butter on presliced bread.

[@donyoung2185]

It’s self explanatory!!!! You only hide what you don’t want anyone to find .

[@donyoung2185]

@@erichoppe8228 then hired his kids as advisers!!!!!

[@robinsss]

she got some things wrong but she is right on the key issue the 3/5ths compromise was not racist

[@jonmeador8637]

We had to amend the Constitution to make owning people illegal. Imagine that. We had to amend our founding document to make it illegal to own people. If the country weren't founded on racism, why the need to amend the Constitution to ban owning other people? What more do you need to know?

[@yankee2yankee216]

We wouldn’t be so ashamed of American history, if we hadn’t committed so many obscene crimes against our own people, as well as other nations…

[@janinewetzler5037]

Excellent reasoning for abolishing the electoral college!

[@delphi-moochymaker62]

They should call this act "The historical accountability avoidance act."

[@johnwilliams7473]

The fact is they don’t want it taught in school is because it’s too early. In other words, they are scared that people will recognize pictures of relatives on the wrong side. That’s the true fear.

[@russhorcher1726]

You have a valid point there.

[@patriciacardona1781]

Interesting perspective I had not thought about that issue

[@kathleenwalker4413]

What do all the good books say? “The truth shall set you free”. Imagine going to college not knowing the truth. It’s bad enough they didn’t tell the real truth with us from the 1950’s but later in the years on it’s even worse. It’s never to early to tell the truth!!! No country goes without some regret. Every nationality that has come here to the USA has been subjected to racism!!!

[@russhorcher1726]

Very good. I agree 👍. Great point. And accurate right down to the last period.

[@denisestarr2314]

Don't forget about the genocide of the native Americans .

[@user-xt3kv9ec1l]

Talk about an inexcusable excuse

[@hankscott8724]

I am all for loyalty to country when it is merited. First and foremost I am for loyalty to the truth. Without truth there is no way forward.

[@Dlo2018]

so basically...they want people to not know basic american history.

[@stikupartist3698]

Hurting white people feelings is the real racism.

[@bobbycoleman6863]

How can you erase something from 500 yrs ago that's still going Strong today

[@chillywillie6283]

They don’t want to traumatize their kids with how horrible that history was, but just imagine how horrible it was for my black ancestors trying to survive their history. Even at my age of sixty-five and being born and raised in Mississippi I got of small taste of how the full ‘horrible’ must have been.

[@TheSilverphoenix88]

Yup, what your family endured is such an inconvenience to white fragility and that’s all that matters in this country apparently

[@HuemorDGAP]

So well said!!!! Too weak to even hear the truth while whole families, races, peoples, lands, countries the world over have to live under their truth...pathetic and weak, not attributes of people who should be making laws and in charge of anything!!! The 'Cherokee part' of her knows the truth🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@HuemorDGAP]

@@TheSilverphoenix88 and that's all that has always mattered!! Well said!!!!

[@TheSilverphoenix88]

@@HuemorDGAP you mean her great great grandmother Cherokee princess part? 🤪

[@HuemorDGAP]

@@TheSilverphoenix88 hahahaaaa, yeah, that part!!!!

[@powell4661]

My mom was American history professor. She retired at 64, but soon went back to work because she concluded that they teaching "hard" history anymore. Meaning the hard truth. She taught till she was 84, keep writing , doing book reviews and researching til 89.

[@russhorcher1726]

Good for her. It needs to be taught. The damned Rep don't like the truth being exposed in any form,, it's too uncomfortable for them. They love to suppress and oppress. The naughty relative from the past is correct. It might make them look bad . Not necessarily a Republican thing , nevertheless that's the republicans way. To bury the truth/ugly history because people might learn that it just may have involved them in some way

[@raqueljacobs1542]

The 3/5th’s compromise explicitly states that slave holders should have more voting rights than free people do. This means that the founding fathers found it acceptable. Yeah everyone except Thomas Paine. Once they gave power to the states to determine elections, the states gave power to vote only to people who owned property. And then, ( this is the joke of the whole entire rant) are slaves people, or property? The fact that our founding fathers can’t differentiate between these two qualities means that they don’t have more authority than any other person who tries to ascertain the value of commodities or the value of people. Does this mean that I get to vote twice because I own a car? Can I vote 15 times because I own a house? Yeah, the logic tracks. If our founding fathers thought that slaves qualified as property, why didn’t they grant voting rights to horses? That’s a question that Ben Shapiro can’t answer. He literally cannot answer that question. No racist can answer that question.

[@barbaramontgomery5615]

Not just the black people but the native Americans were slaughtered for their land. That's what our histories all about.

[@marshas.4222]

Tell the truth!!

[@DishonestTrack6]

I hope the teachers do what's right and teach their students history. Not the watered down bs Republicans want them to teach.

[@GEOMETRICINK]

Teachers will continue to teach accurate history. There is nothing Republicans can do about it. These are just the last gasps of a dying political party and good riddance. Teachers will continue to be left leaning because they are college educated and actually have critical thinking skills. Parents don’t put up with psycho right wing teachers teaching their children bull sht lies at school. These kind of teachers are found out quick and run from town 😂😂😂

[@millionmiler]

Republicans wanna destroy the education system since mostly their voters are white rual undereducated people and democrats are mostly college-educated and or people that can think for themselves They are in survival mode and believe education is only for the top 10% Even if teachers go along thank God for the internet

[@rebeccamcphink4625]

What are Republican's going to do? Fire them? Ha! In the middle of a crises where there aren't enough qualified teachers!? Cool, enjoy having your schools taught by random dudes and gals who barely passed highschool themselves.

[@millionmiler]

@@OGCHUCK1 unfortunately they are very committed to their cause

[@ciphernine7824]

These authoritarian-minded hypocrites are the ones who should be blacklisted.

[@ceecee4552]

That's why I teach my Grandkids about Black History and Black Cultures. So they know who they are.

[@shaunkenneally7597]

Those that DON'T learn from History, Doomed to REPEAT IT. 😭 FOR AMERICA.

[@rickelmonoggin]

How does she explain why slavery wasn't banned in the constitution?

[@bradhayes8294]

So........ In other words, stick our heads in the sand and pretend it never happened?

[@100christ001]

my name is john mickle metoyer, and I was born in pineville Lousiana. we black metoyers had our plantation and freedom documents confiscated in 1839!!! but that's American history that makes some Americans feel bad.

[@douglasjones2570]

Wow. Did you your family ever get everything back? Thanks for sharing!

[@jayyearwood4587]

The only reason these lawmakers is not to protect students but to protect themselves. They don't want kids recognizing bigotry in adults who are of the same stripe as the slave owners.

[@theresagosnell7645]

"Those who deny history are destined to repeat it"

[@marieknight9385]

NO, the saying goes, "those who FORGET history are doomed to repeat it", they didn't forget anything, in fact they can't admit that life was wrong and will never happen no matter how much they want to relive those days

[@theresagosnell7645]

@@marieknight9385 They want their children to forget it happened. I don't understand these people . The children will surely get the information somewhere.These people have descended to into a sea of ignorance.

[@marieknight9385]

@@theresagosnell7645 No they were raised in ignorance, it just wasn't so obvious until recently, did you honestly think the people who lynched minorities and attacked marginalized groups just went away? No they went into their safe spaces and were prejudice in private and taught their children to be prejudice too and that's why we're still dealing with racism now

[@dayegilharno4988]

"Teach how to think, not what to think" is a nice euphemism for "Pick your own facts"!

[@lokinakor1]

Uhhh... removing facts from history IS teaching WHAT to think, or rather what NOT to think. Are you so backwards that you live on bizarro world?

[@kevinhousen2791]

The dumbing down of America continues.

[@HuemorDGAP]

Now she's 'part Cherokee' 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@emjay2045]

☝🏽🎅🏻

[@roellopez3737]

Trump flipped a switch and the dumbing down of white Americans began 😂😂😂😂.

[@bartbullock9742]

I am Cherokee Nation, I believe there has been enough history erased already, thanks.. but no thanks.

[@allisonshaw9341]

Many years ago, my 10th grade history teacher asked if I would come to her class and teach a 3 day course on Native Americans and our history (yeah, tend of thousands of years and hundreds of cultures in 3 days). I presented an outline of what I would cover, which included first contact. For the lesson, I used excerpts from Columbus's own journals and his views of the Taino as savages of such genial nature that they would make good slaves (which is exactly what he and the Spaniards did), and discussed the treatment of the Taino under Columbus's governorship. Some of the parents were incensed that I had "slandered a great American hero". I had to meet with the principal, the parents, and a couple of school board members where I pretty much proved my point using facts, the journals, and historical records. Oh, and FYI - indentured servants were not slaves and had rights under the law, and Native tribes weren't counted at all. And why is it every white person claims to be part Cherokee and yet not a damned one of them can prove it. For those of us who actually ARE Cherokee or other Native, it's insulting and infuriating as hell. If you identify as white and are not an enrolled member of a federally- or state-recognized tribe, then you do not qualify as Native, part Native, or have any right or authority to claim to speak for us or represent us in any way. Be content with being white and quit being pretendians.

[@krackerbear9315]

TCHA ! I’m way Indianer’n you. My chicken dance brings ALL the hot aunties out bush partying.

[@timothyepowell8388]

White people who like to say that they are part Cherokee or even having some African-American blood wouldn’t had revealed that if they were being interviewed by the loan officer at a bank, trying to buy real estate or living in the deep South of the 1950s, 60s and before. Today among conservatives as well as some liberal whites, it’s popular and nonthreatening for them to say that they are of a multi racial make up. In the Jim Crow era many of those same whites would be hiding their (supposed) true identity and pretending that they are like the other ordinary locals being on the front lines of the all white lynch mob, lynching innocent African Americans or any other people of color.

[@kimlowe705]

@@krackerbear9315 As in all races, not every member is intelligent.

[@lolajoselin7134]

Allison Shaw as one part native to another thankyou!!!!

[@rohieram724]

@@timothyepowell8388 you hit the nail on the head. Not only is she liberal. She is ultra liberal. Time for you to wake up!

[@shells500tutubo]

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”-Isaac Asimov Say no more.

[@lasaundrawatson4564]

The brilliant and sad truth of American life.

[@mike5556]

Same people that want to put disclaimers in biology texts that "Evolution is a theory"

[@dwightanderson8331]

She's pushing more fascist republican philosophy.

[@mielmel]

We should never forget our history or else we will be doomed to repeat it.

[@ruthdevisser6632]

Yes ,yes ,yes thank you

[@debrathomas7735]

Black adults should band together and teach our black children the correct account...

[@robertlee8042]

Our kids cannot find North America on a map.

[@ervinlang318YT]

Sad But True

[@robbymidgettofficial]

"There would be more slavery if slaves could vote" What brand of glue is this woman huffing

[@andrewlambert7246]

It only gets worse and worse. Its mind-boggling stupid.

[@BigBlackRod]

Imagine being so ashamed of your history that you want to ban it being taught to your children...

[@xinavaneify]

They aren't ashamed. They are comfortable genociding people of Afrikan ascent, slowly or quickly, and are proud of their collective ancestors' behaviours. They're angry that others find it unacceptable. Since they cannot get rid of the other people of pallor (POP) who disagree with them, they'll do away with evidence of the crime altogether. All they need is one generation growing up under their "patriotic truth" version of the past for the memory of reality to die along with the remembrances and bodies of the elderly.

[@ThatOpalGuy]

It's hard to continue "business as usual" otherwise.

[@spaceshipenterprise9062]

To those school districts, we have the internet, now.

[@hananhamilton5239]

My question is where are the various teachers unions around this nation to combat this push that these politicians are trying to create as law in this nation where are the educational support establishments. I like to hear what they have to say and what they're doing to combat this.

[@tanners4292]

Fascist teaching? That’s a no. Republicans want to question our loyalty? Negatives are necessary to understand our imperfections. No human is perfect and we learn from our imperfections. This is wild.

[@jasonclark8458]

It has to be taught - how else will we remember not to do it again...?

[@Wordavee1]

So if they gave the slaves a vote, they would vote FOR slavery???

[@connecticutcollectibles8164]

The truth is the truth.

[@beverlymcleod6184]

I would think that since there is a nationwide shortage of teachers and people who want to go into the teaching field, that teachers who want to teach truth have the upper hand. If these criminal republicans continue pushing their BS laws, teachers should go on strike to keep politics out of the classroom.

[@old_grey_cat]

from what I read elsewhere, so many teachers in Texas and other such are refusing work in daft areas, moving out of state, or quitting teaching that there are serious shortages. Other states have, like them, shortages from pandemic exhaustion, long Covid, and death rates, so are offering better pay and conditions.I think sane syllabus counts in "better conditions."

[@grahamrskelly6042]

As a white American I can be proud of my American heritage, Harriet Tubman was one bad ass American hero, if you are American you can be proud of her and America, if you are more white then American you might feel Harriet Tubman doesn’t represent you.

[@Chunkable999]

Exactly...why are black figures not considered American heroes? They are American, they are heroes.... should be the only qualifiers.

[@Vondarkstar]

Know your history or be doomed to repeat it.

[@thomaszitting2672]

We still don't have the free America that was originally intended far from it

[@rosk2664]

I don't understand why they are so scared, the truth is it's not like they stopped being the way they are

[@WaterborneCamper]

2020 conservatives: 'you cant erase history, even if it makes liberals feel bad!' 2021 conservatives: 'erase history that makes me feel bad!'

[@kathryncainmadsen5850]

As long as you are not suggesting removing the statues of white supremacists and confederates was an attempt to erase history. It was just taking those things out of places of honor. I don't agree with melting those down. They should go in museums because it is history.

[@loki2240]

@@kathryncainmadsen5850 - Several prominent museums said that they didn't want the Confederate Statues because of the amount of space they take up, resources to maintain them, and difficulties putting them in their proper historical context (i.e., "This statue of this Confederate general was erected in this Southern city in the 20th century to oppose civil rights for African Americans and to reinforce white supremacy over African Americans. It was removed in the first half of the 21st century after many complaints against glorifying the Confederate States, Confederates, segregationists, other white supremacists, and white supremacy. Opponents of the removal asserted that the statue was part of a non-racist Southern heritage and/or part of history that should have continued to be celebrated on public property with public funds - which African Americans also contributed to. "). Even if that is explained, it can be done without the statues. When the statues are present, it's very difficult to separate them from their intended glorification without vandalizing the statue. Except for the statue of Nathan Bedford Forrest. That monstrosity was a self-own. lol

[@WaterborneCamper]

@@kathryncainmadsen5850 disgusting history, that shouldn't be honored. We don't have Hilter statues in museums.

[@dmoe0074]

@@kathryncainmadsen5850 like the slavery they trying to act like didn't happen for 500 yrs right 🤔

[@lolajoselin7134]

Whitestone liberals don't want history erased

[@berniecohens6409]

They don't want you to learn about their history because they are ashamed of it lmfao

[@jonesfactor9]

Those who deny or forget their history are doomed to repeat it.

[@jacklarson6281]

then that would mean they cannot teach about the Civil War

[@Bluelilly40]

I'm so disgusted by this. Our ancestors WERE THAT BAD!!! We are doomed to repeat these horrible mistakes if we aren't able to teach about the atrocities of the past. It stuns me that more people don't find this profoundly alarming.

[@tessierashpoolmg7776]

They are crapping their draws over reparations. Which IMHO think are totally BS. FUN FUN FUN

[@dtfonmyballs8752]

Same people that want to tell you Jesus was white and blue eyes.

[@heathermccall8015]

They were worried that the slaves toxic view of slavery would take hold. They gave women the vote in the West so they could outvote the Hispanics. They put American citizens in camps in WWII. They keep Indiginous people in separate areas. The whole country was built on racism. It doesnt have to be that way.