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@stevenirizarry13044 жыл бұрын
big request...Eckhartsladder fixes the battle of Exegol, he can replace the superweapons and the location but the principle must remain the same...Palpatine has an army of superweapons or a single superweapon and a citizens fleet gathered by Lando or Poe ends up stopping it
@jamarieharry18054 жыл бұрын
Do great with galactic versus video keep it up
@justinmango20004 жыл бұрын
Reven vs vader Separatists vs first order in all out war
@yourstruly48174 жыл бұрын
One Xenomorph vs Princess Leia and Crew of the Tantive 4
@DoctorLoudonclear4 жыл бұрын
UNSC vs Rebel Alliance in all out war.
@aster4jaden4 жыл бұрын
I think the Resistance Fleet at Exegol could win but only if they have Horses.
@tmo_1174 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree if they just deployed horses and men on the top of each venator they would win no problem
@shivanshjain88064 жыл бұрын
They could win with finn and his 'just a feeling', no ships required.
@sanderspijkers24954 жыл бұрын
The resistance fleet has Rey. She'll just use 2 lightsabers and destroy them all!
@OxxotrOxxotro4 жыл бұрын
In fact all the horses were force sensitive clones. They released them from Palpatine's underground stable. That's why tilting the ships wouldn't have worked.
@shivanshjain88064 жыл бұрын
@@OxxotrOxxotro them being force sensitive clones is now legends. In Canon each and every horse was a death star, with special force and spacetime warping glasses so that the entire galaxy can watch with naked eyes when they are fired.
@XAlted14 жыл бұрын
Skilled pilots who grew from birth doing this vs a ragtag party who thought the raid boss would be easy.
@ChrisTian-ed8ol4 жыл бұрын
Your not wrong.
@waitwhat2384 жыл бұрын
@João Piza Youre'ren't*
@pampanamonick70764 жыл бұрын
@DU Lee você não está
@GenericProtagonist1184 жыл бұрын
So...(sigh).... Pros and Noobs?....
@waitwhat2384 жыл бұрын
@@GenericProtagonist118 Can 16,000 Silvers beat 3,000 Grand Masters?
@nurse11754 жыл бұрын
AKA....The Republic vs " Just people"
@Nikolaryan4334 жыл бұрын
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahanahahahahahahaha 😂😂😂
@xqcl38024 жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@ethanbradberry52244 жыл бұрын
For the republic!
@charliem64674 жыл бұрын
You mean literally almost millions of ships many of which had weapons?
@nicholaswong67374 жыл бұрын
@@charliem6467 did you watch the video? 16,000 ships at the VERY most and that’s already being considerate, only 300 of which could go 1v1 with a venator, that being the various Mon Cal cruisers such as the MC95. Vs 5000 Venators that held 420 fighters each, had pilots and crew that were literally bred for war, and on top of that a couple hundred newer ships such as the ISD and Victory class, and possibly a couple mandator class super star destroyers. Looking at galaxy fleet composition, only the bigger MC models and frigates were capable of carrying fighters, and most ships were just converted civilian freighters and older model ships not to be used in military action. Example: the Pelta class was present, despite already being outdated by the time of the clone wars and even in a 20 to 1 advantage against a Venator would not be able to win.
@Wafflee-nj6gv4 жыл бұрын
The Chad Clones vs the Virgin New Republic
@123j4j4 жыл бұрын
The Chad Republic vs The Virgin Misfits
@toby10614 жыл бұрын
The chad Admiral Yularen vs the virgin resistance admirals.
@nathanball993 жыл бұрын
@@toby1061 admiral holdo has nothing on Yularen 😉
@keatonburton60643 жыл бұрын
I am incredibly biased against pretty much *anything* from Disney Canon, so I prefer the clones.
@Heil-Haidra23193 жыл бұрын
The Chad Prequel Trilogy vs the Virgin Sequel Trilogy.
@markgeorge22004 жыл бұрын
The battle of exygol was that battle where the 5 year old thinks of everything that's OP, gives it too the bad guys, and then magically the good guys win even when it makes no sense.
@charliem64674 жыл бұрын
Lmfao. That is a dumb take.
@lucasart3284 жыл бұрын
Exactly lmfao
@Marcow3214 жыл бұрын
well unshielded, and no high ground, not to mention fancy super Lazer heavy guns don't shoot up, its kinda reasonable
@gabedattilo39514 жыл бұрын
But they have horses
@flamebreaker73184 жыл бұрын
@@charliem6467 how is that a dumb take it’s literally true there should have been no way he lost but no fucking Disney thought that’s palps should announce himself to everyone basically fucking himself
@stephenlutz69364 жыл бұрын
Republic Fleet all the way. Their ships are less than five years old and have crews of trained clones compared to decades old ships and random people.
@acendantoverlord57374 жыл бұрын
??? Well not all of the resistance ships or ships in general would be that old per say tho it is a mishmash of ships from all over. The Republic ships by the time of the new trilogy would be 60 something years old in the timeline.
@pixeltcat4 жыл бұрын
@@acendantoverlord5737 I think we are looking at each fleet when they had their debut in each movie, so technically the Republic would still have the advantage.
@InvictusMatrix4 жыл бұрын
@@acendantoverlord5737 Technology advances slow in star wars, so I don't think there's much of a tech gap between the fleets
@acendantoverlord57374 жыл бұрын
@@pixeltcat I definitely agree the Republic wins but it still doesn’t change the fact that from the resistance’s perspective their fighting 60 something year old ships and while “some” of the Resistance ships are “newer” and a little more advanced. Like Eckhart said MC90’s I think? Are probably a little superior to Venators and resistance star fighters also have shields while Republic Starfighters didn’t, to my knowledge tho I could be wrong? Their “Debut” doesn’t change the fact they are from two different time periods.
@AJSai30074 жыл бұрын
@@acendantoverlord5737 The Mon Cala ships are actually MC 95s, and Republic fighters did have shields, otherwise you make a valid point.
@eternal59304 жыл бұрын
I am rooting for the Republic Fleet at Coruscant
@GregoryJohnson-l1g4 жыл бұрын
Me too because I despise the sequel trilogy
@Transit04224 жыл бұрын
same, also cause the republic is cooler
@Nikolaryan4334 жыл бұрын
I kinda think it would be a draw/tie
@battledroidcommander2344 жыл бұрын
im rooting for the republic because you are taking apart its roots which will kill it
@comradekenobi69084 жыл бұрын
@@battledroidcommander234 roger roger
@existentialselkath12644 жыл бұрын
Republic fleet: venators! Star fighters! Jedi! Some new star destroyers! Galaxy fleet: Ships! More ships! Tons of ships! Too many ships!
@a_balloon3 жыл бұрын
So you are literally whining about how Galaxy fleet has more ships?
@Alverycosmic.damsel3 жыл бұрын
@@a_balloon the galaxy fleet will win
@Alverycosmic.damsel3 жыл бұрын
The galaxy fleet will wiln all the way
@a_balloon3 жыл бұрын
@@Alverycosmic.damsel Not really, since "it's just people" and half of them probably never served an army
@muhammadksatriaakbarariend86842 жыл бұрын
@@Alverycosmic.damsel everybody gangsta until plot armor don't work on good guys
@MrGA5554 жыл бұрын
Disney literally threw a bunch of ships at us and said, “look at all the ships!” While they all just looked like dots on a canvas...
@charliem64674 жыл бұрын
It is so sad to see “fans” treat such an amazing scene like this.
@hell2gophone4 жыл бұрын
I wish they added more ships from all eras of Star Wars for the Galaxy Fleet
@charliem64674 жыл бұрын
@@hell2gophone true
@charliem64674 жыл бұрын
@@hell2gophone they likely didn’t have the assets and they were pressed for time
@riddell264 жыл бұрын
@@charliem6467 I'm sorry hitting ctrl c isn't amazing or creative
@Ty-hu4pd4 жыл бұрын
With the the exegol fleet being mostly civilians they would most likely flee or get tired of the fighting and go home
@comradekenobi69084 жыл бұрын
Resistance Officer: "All Deserters will be sho- wait where's the guy who shoots deserters?" The guy who shoots deserters: "I'm not payed enough for this shit, dasvidanya!"
@LEGIONBRICKS4 жыл бұрын
While I do think the Galaxy fleet is impressive, I think VERY few fleets could take on the full power of the republic’s fleet especially with highly trained clone pilots.
@ADDISON63684 жыл бұрын
@CT-2307 but that the thing fighters many many if count let say min 1k vent and again there *more thousands most likely more but let say 1k vent alone.. 484 planes which include example 34 arc 170 192 v wings and 192 light inter so let say min of 200 planes just alone that is 200k planes.... give or take... now add real amount fighters not ground ones space 420 planes not included Clone Z-95 Headhunter since not really amount but know alot.. so for now just put 420x1000 is 420k... planes... so image thousands lol yah 16k total ships vs all of them but yes ik there bigships which bit more avd but still vents could hold iy own with planes so in the end Coruscant just out beats the fleet just because pure fighters and vents which all train clones mind you and fully battle war ready.. now them vs 10k star destroyers i would even know but if put my money then they would win also let say 10k vents vss 10k star destoyers is 4.2m figters haha which its my be an x ray but those still meant fight ships like vents so yah my mind go on them also unless includes other fleet enteral empire then unfair both sides.. just pure mass and avd tech
@OrDuneStudios4 жыл бұрын
Mon Cals are more tanky than firepower output. And Venators needed several 800m crusiers to be effectivly matched for firepower. Not to mention the Ventaor being a litteral carrier. Non designed for ship to ship. No you mean not optimised for ship to ship. They are allround cruisers in their role. They in legends at least has an absurdly good PD array.
@nerkvititate4 жыл бұрын
@@OrDuneStudios if anything the one thing the venator was more for broad side fighting and seeing how the clone wars was basically inspired by ww1 frontal assault tactics I think the republic fleet would def had mighty balls of beskar to go face to face with no fear and tho idk if it’s canon but we did see it as a cutscene on the battle of kamino in battlefront 2 recent game the venator had a mini laser on the under belly of the ship ( palpaltine really like big microwave guns ) also In the battle seeing as how they had Finn going full Valhalla moment charging in with horse I’d the clones would also have the minds to board the enemy fleet like they did in the original cartoon adaptation of the clone wars as well also if u remember the battle scene of grievous leading his ships into a asteroid ring the clone ( anakins idea really) to use the at te walkers as gun platforms as well since those walkers have magnified feet and are air tight sealed so I would give to the clones to use everything they have aboard a single venator to fight to the last man FOR THE REPUBLIC!!
@battledroidcommander2344 жыл бұрын
as i said in literally every reply venators are cargo carriers and clones are jango fett rip off
@thealexgundam50064 жыл бұрын
@@battledroidcommander234 They are mixture of battleship and a carrier/ ya they were cloned and train since birth to have kill in combat/ they were made to kill jedi
@miguelmontenegro35204 жыл бұрын
The Audience: Where did they come from? Who are they? How are they composed? Is the resistence dead or not? Disney: *STOP ASKING QUESTIONS!*
@frog63754 жыл бұрын
Like how did Lando get a bunch of people to come but frickin Luke’s sister ( I know who she is I just forgot how to spell her name) not get a fleet in the last Jedi!?
@kyleabrezzi4 жыл бұрын
Republic capital under attack* all reinforcements are contacted and take some time to get there. Exogol: hey so there's this sith fleet. *everyone has joined the battle* Me: that doesn't make sense or the logic is flawed
@miguelmontenegro35204 жыл бұрын
@@frog6375 The way Luke, Palpatine, Chewbacca Leia, Han and Ackbar were treated by the writers was almost criminal.
@miguelmontenegro35204 жыл бұрын
@@kyleabrezzi Lol. We got this POWERFUL fleet made up of cutting edge, world-ending Destroyers but... They can't go up.
@mikemiller8204 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the giant plot hole from last jedi where Leia calls for help and no one comes.
@RJALEXANDER7774 жыл бұрын
Anyone who's played Empire at War knows how this goes down. Generally a well coordinated attack of starfighters and capital-ships annihilates a disorganised mob of enemy star-ships. It's simply a matter of coordinating and allocating your various assets against the threats they can best deal with. Friendly fighters bog down enemy fighters and capitals, your own ships eliminate their escorts/corvettes (anti-star fighter ships), then your bombers and capitals move in to demolish what's left. Commanded by battle-hardened Jedi and clone officers the Republic fleet would fight like a competent EaW player against an easy level AI.
@knicks54263 жыл бұрын
Ah EAW... *fun times,* if only you used more than one cpu core... I’m upgrading my cpu for you... UwU...jk for the uwu.
@bradhedgehog123 жыл бұрын
I play the game guys
@nickthenuker79162 жыл бұрын
As someone who’s played the EaW RaW (Republic at War) mod, I can safely say the way I win is just by dropping a super star destroyer on top of their heads and letting it soak the hits while a dozen assorted smaller SDs jump in and shoot everything that’s not them
@toeseater28552 жыл бұрын
I agree but counter argument: a group of nebulon B OP as fuck
@freddederman72702 жыл бұрын
Even with fewer ships, with enough discipline and communication the republic could win
@ForgottenHonor04 жыл бұрын
"Two of the largest fleets..." **The Eternal Fleet has entered the chat**
@PaiSAMSEN4 жыл бұрын
[Zildrog laugh in the background]
@AJSai30074 жыл бұрын
*Galactic Alliance Fleet from the Battle of Yuzhantar has entered the chat*
@Nikolaryan4334 жыл бұрын
*the Empire has entered the chat*
@nuancedhistory4 жыл бұрын
We don't have definite numbers for the Eternal Fleet. It should be noted though that the Star Forge Battle in KOTOR was also large according to secondary media, with more than 1000 ships on each side.
@forthencholordofadmirals27634 жыл бұрын
*The Galactic Alliance Fleet from the blockade of Corellia has entered the chat*
@Just_Adrian_4 жыл бұрын
I think the republic feet would win cause it's an organised military fleet and not a jumbled mess of random ships, also the crew are clones who have been trainer since childhood for their specific duty
@bradhedgehog124 жыл бұрын
The Amount Of Venators with this many star fighters. Sheesh!
@battledroidcommander2344 жыл бұрын
venators are cargo carriers and clones are jango fett rip off
@bradhedgehog124 жыл бұрын
@@battledroidcommander234 Then why did the droid army lost?
@battledroidcommander2344 жыл бұрын
plot armor
@comradekenobi69084 жыл бұрын
@@battledroidcommander234 roger roger
@paulsteinhauser4344 жыл бұрын
Do we need to compare this? The Republic fleet gets the edge.
@davidordaz52514 жыл бұрын
Always of course
@paulsteinhauser4344 жыл бұрын
@@davidordaz5251 I meant the Venator is more of a carrier than a battleship and having more Starfighters is better than big ships. Real world example WWII US aircraft carriers.
@moosiemoose13374 жыл бұрын
It's fun! I really missed eck's vs series. It's why I first subbed to him
@davidordaz52514 жыл бұрын
@@paulsteinhauser434 you have a point having more starfighters gives you more of a advantage
@paulsteinhauser4344 жыл бұрын
@@moosiemoose1337 I don't have a problem with that. I forgot 7-9 and wrote my own story....that is actually a story.
@riesenfliegefly71394 жыл бұрын
There were 16 thousand ships "created" for the battle of exegol :D
@adam1454 жыл бұрын
There's not even one memorable though.
@CT-5736-Bladez4 жыл бұрын
Well there was the pelta class
@santiagomartin2214 жыл бұрын
It was already in rebels
@davidkippy1014 жыл бұрын
@Evan Scammell That's how CGI works
@davidkippy1014 жыл бұрын
@Evan Scammell they were in a time crunch. also who tf cares
@balthasargelt40754 жыл бұрын
Just saw the battle of Scariff again. Man is it an amazing fight. The feels when Jynn and Cassian die. The moment Vader comes out being the most scary thing ever, just a couple of simple footsteps and after that a easy fight for Vader with a amazing score. I still see Rogue One as my favourite Star Wars movie, however I have more hope now that the Mandalorian was such a cool series. Also, I just started with the animated series of the Clone Wars and man have I been missing out!
@pepperedash44244 жыл бұрын
The "I am one with the Force, and the Force is with me" scene turned any sense of the battle's grit into cheese.
@TK--ff5kw4 жыл бұрын
The only thing that was scarier than Vader was the dark troopers with their score
@djmace90294 жыл бұрын
Rogue One was brilliant. I know The Mandalorian is supposed to be it’s own story but I hope we see a massive space battle that gets screen time, maybe at the end of Season 3 we could see a massive battle between Mandalorian’s and the Imperial Remnant above Mandalore. Would be amazing to see.
@AntVaz73 жыл бұрын
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@nicholasmills88444 жыл бұрын
I think it's also safe to say that most of the exegol ships wouldn't have been fully crewed, whilst the republic ships would have had crews that at had been trained from birth
@CullodenCowboy4 жыл бұрын
Well thought out and interestingly designed navy vs Discount Avengers Endgame Finale
@Erolsaurus4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 5 venator-class star destroyers are well thought out and interestingly designed and hundreds of different ships, all unique in their own ways is a discount endgame finale.
@estoniaboodoingmapping10954 жыл бұрын
@@Erolsaurus i think he refered the galaxy fleet as endgame discount finale
@ignazioacerenza98814 жыл бұрын
It's wild how formulaic that ending was. I'd be surprised if these are not written by some AI in some hidden backroom.
@dragon_user16094 жыл бұрын
The Exegol fleet totally isn’t composed of ships designed for previous eras before hand or anything
@flamebreaker73184 жыл бұрын
@@Erolsaurus yeah well at least the venator was something new when it first went on screen and not hand me downs from actually good star wars
@Toon_Lucario4 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmmm. Venator vs. freighters. Y-wings vs. MG-100s
@AntVaz73 жыл бұрын
The only damage the freighter can do is throw its supplies at the venator
@Toon_Lucario4 жыл бұрын
Add Jedi. It won’t matter the Resistance gets wiped
@charliem64674 жыл бұрын
Well how does that work? The republic would have lost almost every battle depicted in the clone wars show if it wasn’t for anakin and the jedi. So take them out of the equation. And the republic is really exposed
@battledroidcommander2344 жыл бұрын
finally i found someone who thinks republic would lose
@comradekenobi69084 жыл бұрын
@@charliem6467 > the republic is really exposed what does that mean?
@charliem64674 жыл бұрын
@@comradekenobi6908 they are at a serious disadvantage and lack serious strat.
@litlitten87514 жыл бұрын
@@charliem6467 Stop trying to defend the Resistance would clearly lose Jedi or no Jedi.
@1971tallica4 жыл бұрын
I know the Republic wins, you only glossed over the star fighters which would actually be one of the deciding factors. I am going to go with a conservative 1500 Venator SDs there, and just count their fighter complement only not including the fighters of the reinforcement fleet ships of different classes. The Venators have a complement of 420 star fighters of various types. I'm not going to break down the raw numbers by type, but in total with just the 1500 Venators you have 630,000 star fighters. Say you only send out 10% of those as an attack force you still have 63,000 star fighters and those alone would wreak any of the smaller ships of the Galaxy fleet, then the fighters and capitol ships just mop up what's left . That is the one thing they never showed properly about the Venators , their fighter complement is deadly . Even in the 3 ship battle groups you see in Clone Wars that is 1260 star fighters .
@bagelmaster24984 жыл бұрын
Yea he apparently completely forgot that
@OrDuneStudios4 жыл бұрын
630k most of which carried missiles and anti ship munitions. No flak defence is going to stoo that.
@nerkvititate4 жыл бұрын
Clones pilots playing the immigrant song while having a field day fighting civilians , man
@battledroidcommander2344 жыл бұрын
venator is cargo carrier and clones are jango fett rip off
@Erolsaurus4 жыл бұрын
did you forget that the resistance probably has hundreds of anti-starfighter ships and their mon calamari cruisers would frick the venator star destroyers anyway
@anakinskywalker46184 жыл бұрын
*_This is where the fun begins..._*
@davidvasquez084 жыл бұрын
Hello there
@kelvinli94914 жыл бұрын
@@davidvasquez08 GENERAL KENOBI!
@Amesang4 жыл бұрын
@@kelvinli9491 Obi-wan Kenobi-wan
@DecarsOFD3 жыл бұрын
@@kelvinli9491 you are a bold one...
@ljiljadodig81863 жыл бұрын
@@DecarsOFD Your move...
@gerardorodriguez75004 жыл бұрын
Coruscant was the Planet Palpatine ruled and Exegol was the Planet Palpatine was resurrected
@chikennuggs96034 жыл бұрын
Ok
@darwinxavier35164 жыл бұрын
The Exogol battle was a total pathetic shitshow. All those ships and we got less action than we did with the much much smaller fleet at Endor. Was it a budget problem? I've seen better and longer fleet battles from episodes of Orville which had a fraction of the budget. Babylon 5 rendered it's cgi on toasters and had more engaging fights. Its not just Star Wars, nuTrek has been having the same problem.
@anblueboot53644 жыл бұрын
When the Cartoon has better Space Battles than the high Budget movies... Stargate also Had quite some nice Space Battles, I Always Loved how Dynamic they looked
@shoeman69664 жыл бұрын
Also what about the xyston Star destroyers!? They’d been hyping up palpatines fleet for the whole movie, and in the final battle, the star destroyers literally sit there, shoot, and have the ties do all the work while the galaxy fleet rips them apart.
@bencoomer20004 жыл бұрын
Pretty much. Frankly, all the battles in the Sequels were really underwhelming to me. Particularly when you watch Rogue One's space battle and could see some of the overall tactics being used. The only sequel that you could was TLJ. But they were such DUMB tactics they hurt...
@kyleruiz71674 жыл бұрын
@Ruosong Gao they wanted to do a new ship model for the xyston but they ran out of time to develop a new custom model which takes quite a bit of time to complete
@kyleruiz71674 жыл бұрын
@@bencoomer2000 I'm pretty sure eck did a video on it but (a comparison) but both the republic and empire also made dumb tactical decisions. It's not just a sequel trilogy thing. But it also kinda shows that no matter how powerful a faction is, you always have incompetent leaders who dont always make good decisions. And although I kinda agree that the sequel trilogy didn't have overwhelming space battles. Compared to the ot and pt, the sq was able to do better graphics and cgi which was a plus compared to the more limited trilogies
@viperson98184 жыл бұрын
Who will win a highly trained military with the best personal Vs the people army that was quickly assembled and probably not having any tactical plan. If anything the sith eternal should’ve won but they had the worst ship ever made in Star Wars plus the planet prevents them from flying up? I wanna say the coruscant fleet would win due to their high level of training and how it’s organized. Compared to the gung ho “galaxy fleet”
@OrDuneStudios4 жыл бұрын
Highly trained military with robust command and control methods Meanwhile with the G fleet: Lerrrrrrooooyoy Mmmmm Jenkins
@nerkvititate4 жыл бұрын
@@OrDuneStudios the clones to would imploy using the walkers as gun platforms like they did in the cartoon adaptations so i would say the clones boarding the galaxy fleet but like a speed run on steroids
@michaelramon24114 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the circumstances. If you combine the basic scenarios of Exegol and Coruscant together (Resistance has surprise attack from above while Republic is defending a planet in-atmosphere/low orbit and both sides get very close very quickly), then most of the Republic's advantages go out the window. Training and discipline can't do you a whole lot of good if you're being shot at from 12 different directions and don't have cover. What the Republic would need to win this is space and time - the ability to break the Resistance fleet into chunks and deal with them one at a time, the ability to rest and resupply, the ability to use terrain (asteroids and the like) to their advantage, the ability to use their fighters at long distance to weaken the enemy, the ability to degrade the Resistance's morale over time until parts of it abandon the fight. In the Exegol/Coruscant scenario, they have none of that - unless the Resistance's morale breaks, the battle comes down to which side is able to score more hits, and that's probably the side with a 3-to-1 or better numbers advantage. (Especially since the Venator is not a substantially better ship than the Resistance's heavier ships - if they could barely scratch it this would be a cakewalk, but the Galaxy Fleet is full of ships that are at least as good as a CIS Munificent frigate.) Think of it this way: A team of well-trained soldiers with guns can definitely take on a zombie horde if they have space, time, cover, high ground and room to move around. But if they soldiers start off in the same room as the zombies and have no way to escape, they are essentially doomed -- they physically cannot score kills fast enough to defeat the enemy before they take significant casualties themselves and lose most of their fighting ability.
@kyleruiz71674 жыл бұрын
So I guess you just dont like the Star destroyer in General huh, since its basically the same ship from the OT with a big gun at the bottom
@smokingpiggy54254 жыл бұрын
@@michaelramon2411 well your forgetting the millions of star fighters the republic has. No matter how superior your fighter is, your gonna get beat by like a 20 to 1 star fighter duel
@dagdamor14 жыл бұрын
10/10 stomp for the Republic. The capital of the galaxy would be guaranteed to possess Star Dreadnoughts. Ten freighters wouldn’t have the slightest chance against a fully armed Recusant-class destroyer with a full complement, and it took a thousand Recusants to draw even with a single Mandator-II, let alone one that’s fully supported by entire formations of Venators and Imperators. The Exegol Fleet would only have fighter complements on a fraction of their ships, and they’d be lucky to have more than a squadron. Let’s say 20%, or 3,200 to be exceedingly generous, and give them two squadrons (24) each, to be exceedingly generous again. Less fighter-carriers than the Republic already, at 5,000 Imperators and Venators. Imperators each have a full wing of six squadrons (72). Venators each have 32 squadrons of interceptors (384) and 3 squadrons of heavy fighters (36). Exegol Fleet gets buried in Republic fighters, and whatever’s left has to deal with coordinated fire from FIVE THOUSAND Star Destroyer-class vessels with veteran crews. Backed up by several Star Dreadnoughts lobbing obscene long range volleys with impunity from behind one of the most formidable defensive screens in galactic history. It’s not going to happen.
@Erolsaurus4 жыл бұрын
No, the republic would fall. The republic has like, 1 Imperator or something. If they had a Mandator or any Star Dreadnoughts, then they would've shown it in Revenge of the Sith, but they DIDN'T. Therefore the Mandator is in another part of the galaxy altogether or just doesn't exist. The first order had a Mandator IV, the Resistance killed it. They didn't even have full support of all ships in the galaxy then! Plus the Resistance has a lot of MC cruisers and the support of some of the best pilots in the galaxy. They have the millenium falcon, a ship that has been proven to survive Imperial-IIs, so a much weaker ship like the Venator wouldn't suffice. The Resistance have B wings that can destroy star destroyers. Also, some resistance ships (e.g Corellian Corvette) are designed for anti-fighter combat. 5,000 ships? The resistance have like 1 billion at least, lol.
@commanderpondscc-41124 жыл бұрын
@@Erolsaurus dude that’s just plot armor if the millennium falcon actually took a couple turbo laser hits it would be done and imperial II’s don’t have anti fighter and small ship weapons anyway, also we don’t see nearly all the shi that were at coruscating in the movie there were allot of ships there that we only saw a little bit of, so just cuz they didn’t show a victory or tector it doesn’t mean those ships weren’t there, we only saw a very small snippet of the battle. did u not hear eck talk about how they don’t show everything on screen and how the republic most likely had a few victory’s, tectors, and imperators. And the ventators also have 100s of advanced fighters and bombers which would prob shred through any of there ships, and around 400 fighters being held in a single venator uno, and seriously you don’t actually think there was ‘1 billion’ ships at all, like seriously there was approximately 16000 ships and most of them civilian ships from a gud portion of the galaxy. And the few hundred or so mc ships of varying quality and model were only a small amount of the mostly barely armed civilian ships, and with the thousands of venators, 100s of frigates, heavy and light cruisers, and a handful of victory’s, tectors and imperators, and not to mention the thousands upon thousands of republic fighters with all of them coordinating together and using tactics, strategy while all being under a command structure aswell would be much more organized than a around 16000 mostly barely armed civilian ships and the few hundred or so mc ships mostly all uncoordinated and just shooting the enemy randomly, I think the republic would win, and yes the exegol fleet would definitely dew a big chunk of damage but not enough before they get shredded.
@commanderpondscc-41124 жыл бұрын
@@Erolsaurus dude did u read his comment at all? The republic has a bit over a million fighters which can shred the entire exegol fleet I don’t think a ca-90 could have any chance of surfing the swarm of y wings and heavily shielded fighters and interceptors, also no offense but o think u should seriously learn about republic ships
@cybersmith_videos2 жыл бұрын
>The capital of the galaxy would be guaranteed to possess Star Dreadnoughts. We don't see any. >The Exegol Fleet would only have fighter complements on a fraction of their ships Not all of their starfighters need to be carried in, miniturisation of hyperdrive technology made hyperspace-capable snubfighters way more common by the time of the Battle Of Exegol.
@prohamburger224 жыл бұрын
Literally the dozens of Lucrehulk battleships at the battle of courasant: "Am I A joke to you?"
@snekkie1174 жыл бұрын
he was only counting republic warships, if he included sepi warships the fight would of been over twice as fast
@SamSalsa4114 жыл бұрын
Lord Nagant Yeah if he was counting Separatist ships alongside Republic ships, he’d have to include First a Order/Sith Eternal ships with the galaxy fleet to be fair
@battledroidcommander2344 жыл бұрын
yes
@wilberdebeer46964 жыл бұрын
@@SamSalsa411 So? They were unshielded imperial ones with large super lasers that they can't use yet. They would die in a storm of vulture droids.
@destinyhunter19264 жыл бұрын
@@wilberdebeer4696 you'd just see thousands of buzz droids sawing off the lasers
@aaeve56763 жыл бұрын
Lets just say that there were up to 3000 venators in Coruscant, if each of those venators Carried 5 starfighters each then that would amount to 15,000 starfighters. Obviously a single venator isn't gonna have just 5 starfighters each so the Coruscant fleet would win by a landslide
@OR562 жыл бұрын
A Venator has a fighter compliment of 420 fighters and bombers. I'm not sure how many of each type. Here is a comment from Ted-71tallica: "I know the Republic wins, you only glossed over the star fighters which would actually be one of the deciding factors. I am going to go with a conservative 1500 Venator SDs there, and just count their fighter complement only not including the fighters of the reinforcement fleet ships of different classes. The Venators have a complement of 420 star fighters of various types. I'm not going to break down the raw numbers by type, but in total with just the 1500 Venators you have 630,000 star fighters. Say you only send out 10% of those as an attack force you still have 63,000 star fighters and those alone would wreak any of the smaller ships of the Galaxy fleet, then the fighters and capitol ships just mop up what's left . That is the one thing they never showed properly about the Venators , their fighter complement is deadly . Even in the 3 ship battle groups you see in Clone Wars that is 1260 star fighters."
@altiusbelowdeck41904 жыл бұрын
I would have loved it if the galaxy fleet included a few dozen Lucrehulk class Battleships!!! Ughhh that would be sooooooo cool!!!
@simineelamkav7934 жыл бұрын
(9:30) Count Eckhart: “Noble, but ineffective”
@dovahfett59194 жыл бұрын
A vs on the first day of 2021? Great year so far!!
@dinogaming44194 жыл бұрын
The battle of exegol makes absolutely zero sense. Just like the entirety of the sequel trilogy.
@Leisuremaker4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@Erolsaurus4 жыл бұрын
star wars makes no sense, also you're not funny
@craacksteeve16404 жыл бұрын
@@Erolsaurus Idk man, don’t think he was trynna be funny,
@TheRezro4 жыл бұрын
@@craacksteeve1640 Everyone know that haters are pretentious babies.
@eragonbromsson11224 жыл бұрын
@@TheRezro And the Sequels defenders (the few that are) even more because they know they're wrong but can't admit it.
@samuelwarshaw94804 жыл бұрын
Ok so, I’m going to do some maths. Assuming that of the Republic Fleet over Coruscant around 3,000 of the 5,000 ships were Venator-Class Star Destroyers, and that they didn’t have their full carry capacity of 420 ships, but instead are at 75% strength, that works out to 945,000 star fighters. Of course this number could easily fluctuate from over 2.1 million if all the ships were Venators at 100% strength, to a mere 315,000 if the complement of the 3,000 Venators were at 25%, but these are still crazy large numbers. The number of 3,000 isn’t based on any calculations or lore, but instead made with the assumption that they made up the backbone of the Republic Fleet, and in all honesty, would probably have been higher. If there is any lore out there saying what % of the fleet Venators made up, please let me know, because I would like to ensure the greatest amount of accuracy I can get.
@turtlelol24114 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see Resurgent vs Allegiance, although you've probably already done it
@kylefalk86164 жыл бұрын
Resurgent wins :/
@kylefalk86164 жыл бұрын
@CSO Class Supercarrier Halo The Fall Of Reach i agree, if we are working off of the numbers given (1000 turbolasers or whatever + kyber crystal tech)
@kylefalk86164 жыл бұрын
@CSO Class Supercarrier Halo The Fall Of Reach I agree
@antonioabreu57364 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, versus videos ... I can NEVER get enough of those. Awesome work Eck.
@dubielahmonarchyenjoyer91074 жыл бұрын
Republic is weak but not *that* weak to lose with "people forces"
@davidvasquez084 жыл бұрын
Hello there
@Konke4504 жыл бұрын
General... Send the separatist leaders to the mustafar system.
@dubielahmonarchyenjoyer91074 жыл бұрын
@@Konke450 It will be done my lord
@irrelevanttroll33123 жыл бұрын
wdym "weak" its the galaxy's equivalent of USA
@waterbottle36284 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see that they keep putting the ghost in the movies
@nathanielreichley46404 жыл бұрын
Love the use of Republic Commando game footage when discussing Karen Travis!
@dietricklamade74174 жыл бұрын
Been watching this channel for years now, prolly 4 maybe 5, still click as soon as I can when you come out with a new video. Love your content! Keep being awesome and making amazing content
@gerardorodriguez75004 жыл бұрын
Disney and Marvel Comics should make Comics of how Lando gathered everyone in the Galaxy to join in the Battle on Exegol
@OutspokenSeeker4 жыл бұрын
How exactly did he get what looked like half of the ships in the core in what I will assume is a few days?
@adam1454 жыл бұрын
@@OutspokenSeeker lol they had like two days. You probably couldn't gather people from two space stations in that time
@warrengouldthorpe50914 жыл бұрын
@@OutspokenSeeker the only problem is that all of episode 9 is meant to take place within 16 hours and lando getting all the ships within only a few hours, which is a bit unrealistic
@OutspokenSeeker4 жыл бұрын
@@warrengouldthorpe5091 right? Imagine having to convince all those people who weren’t exactly enthusiastic about fighting the first order to try and hand together in an unorganised pack to attack the biggest collection of manned and armed imperial destroyers seen in decades. It’s an impossible feat.
@gerardorodriguez75004 жыл бұрын
@@warrengouldthorpe5091 maybe Lando convince everyone to join the battle and overthrow Palpatine since he brought oppression since the clone wars ended and Empire rise to power
@kholozondi99042 жыл бұрын
I've enjoyed rewatching the versus videos this channel has posted over the years. Quite the nostalgia trip for me
@prohamburger224 жыл бұрын
Man I really think that the separatist armies and navies are seriously underrated.
@SenkingFar4 жыл бұрын
Agree
@battledroidcommander2344 жыл бұрын
me too
@commanderpondscc-41124 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree, but for the republic
@andrewchilds88864 жыл бұрын
I want a star wars game where you sneak into a scrap yard and hijack a to be destroyed lukrehulk battleship and upgrade the ship as a mobile base for your fighters and larger ships
@attilathehun50674 жыл бұрын
I love how Karen Traviss is a minimalist in how many clones in the galaxy and then she just starts pulling thousands of ship out her ass.
@callumpears15234 жыл бұрын
Spaarti clones and hidden KDY contacts. It's heavily explored in the books.
@nicholasshealy90404 жыл бұрын
The comments just keep roasting the “Just People” fleet, it’s glorious!
@matthewanderson97544 жыл бұрын
I'm watching every second cause I've been waiting for you bringing back this beautiful stuff again!!!!😁😁
@franknfurterfan6664 жыл бұрын
The Exegol battle was Star Wars doing its own area 51 raid.
@estaticethan17524 жыл бұрын
8:33 "Looks like, Palt kept his remaining warmachime down the back of a sofow for a rainy day"
@Cheesehead_Caleb4 жыл бұрын
Who would win, Maul's Shadow Collective at full strength or Grand Admiral Thrawn at full strength? Edit: Thrawn at full strength vs the coruscant fleet
@callumpears15234 жыл бұрын
Thrawn easily. The Shadow Collective had like two Gozantis at most. Thrawn had a fleet of Star Destroyers.
@CT-5736-Bladez4 жыл бұрын
It’s not even a contest. Thrawn being insanely smart plus the size of the fleet it would be a slaughter
@griffindenomme7064 жыл бұрын
how about mauls shadow collective vs jabba the huts empire
@Cheesehead_Caleb4 жыл бұрын
@@griffindenomme706 actually yeah that would be better
@Leisuremaker4 жыл бұрын
Thrawn, maybe. He clearly outclassed or completed with the best of the Republic Generals, but then there are Jedi generals The republic would have a bigger fleet with more fighters and better disciplined soldiers, but lesser technology (to a degree) The Imperial fighters were utter , but the star destroyers and even corvettes can fight better than venators.
@maxpower39904 жыл бұрын
You didn't talk about morale and training, the Clones have a massive advantage in this regard as they would fight and die for much longer than the Galaxy fleet. Especially bas the Galaxy fleet doesn't have the threat of Palpatine in this match up to instill a sense of do or die.
@nerkvititate4 жыл бұрын
I think the galaxy would’ve not forget him tho seeing as many grew old would have the fear to push them but these are the goddamn clones bruh FOR THE MF REPUBLIC
@flamebreaker73184 жыл бұрын
The galaxy fleet would retreat once enough of there ships get destroyed
@ToonamiT0M4 жыл бұрын
The Coruscant fleet makes sense because it is at the height of the Clone Wars and grew over years as a response to the conflict against the Separatists. The fleet at Exegol is stupid because it is randomly assembled in a couple hours from groups who have previously shown no interest in opposing the First Order. Classis Jar Jar Abrams thinking that just making something bigger automatically makes it better, even if it makes no sense.
@KuraMad20004 жыл бұрын
It might have been forgivable if there was actually a fight between the 2 groups. But there was nothing. Just some star destroyers being star destroyed and a big lightning storm. Huge waste of time and CG
@arstotzkanatthedmz44864 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the battle above the ark where the more well trained elite crews were able to beat the larger brute fleet
@snekkie1174 жыл бұрын
then its an even fight all ships fire at will, burn their mongrel hinds
@zr71offroad203 жыл бұрын
I read or watched somewhere that the Republic had some 2,000 Venators at the battle, given a Venator carries 420 Star Fighters piloted by clones then in theory they would have over 840,000 Star Fighters. Given that these were piloted by experienced and battle hardened clones, then this would give the definite advantage to the Republic Fleet with numbers and experience.
@dagoat_cr51992 жыл бұрын
This is why I feel like around 4 million clones would have not been enough, that would mean around 2/3 of the entire clone army would have been crewing ships at fighters at corusant
@thegalacticfanclub70494 жыл бұрын
6:51 Wait so the CIS snatches grievous instead of the chancellor? That’s nice
@alejandroelluxray52983 жыл бұрын
I once did a vs between the Exegol's Resistance fleet vs The New Republic Fleet (counting ships like the MC90s and captured ISDs) And I concluded it would have been a horrible massacre for the Resistance
@AaronKelley19694 жыл бұрын
As I remember from reading Bloodline, the best military technology was being kept back by individual systems. That many systems refused to join the New Republic, fearing they might become another empire and that some system defense fleets were as good or better than the New Republic fleet. That said, they didn't have the numbers individually and the NRF was largely kept parked so as not to threaten any of the independent systems.
@dantheman20064 жыл бұрын
anyone remember how in the last Jedi they say that hyperspace tracking was "new" but in rogue one, a rebel corvette jumped to hyperspace and a star destroyer followed suit towards Tatooine, perfectly behind the corvette at the starting of a new hope.
@ozmozis60734 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your technical analysis! You're the best. Thanks for 2020 and looking forward to more of your expose in 2021! Have an awesome year!
@yoevfx39954 жыл бұрын
Yeah but u gotta remember that inside the republic capital ships there are lots of small clone ships
@TheJedaiHero90004 жыл бұрын
I ABSOLUTELY loved and enjoyed watching this AWESOME Versus video!!!! REALLY one of my MOST DEFINITE favorites that I have seen SO fraking FAR!!!! Happy New Year, EckhartsLadder!!! Looking forward to your INCREDIBLE content right here in 2021!!!
@frozarburst63504 жыл бұрын
The better title for this is: Dark Souls Boss vs Scrub Newbies
@OR562 жыл бұрын
I love how you mentioned the Republic Commando books when talking about the Battle of Coruscant. That is my favorite Star Wars book series! Yes, the whole hidden military is a massive plot point in the later books for anyone who doesn't know. I also agree that the Republic would win. Even if there are less, the clones are seasoned fighting machines who have trained since birth, while the Exegol fleet is just civvies in some small ships with some severely undergunned big star ships. And, there is that mini Death Star beam we see a Venator use for 3 seconds, that could one shot an MC-95, and just evaporate everything smaller.
@HolyCrusader53 жыл бұрын
The Republic would most likely win since they have lots of experience with dealing with large fleets, and also since the clones were made for war
@ATATChat4 жыл бұрын
This video has made me so nostalgic for these videos.
@terrencejones98174 жыл бұрын
30 minutes of screen time showing the gathering of the Galaxy fleet would have been great
@nicovalentine93264 жыл бұрын
I am so glad that these are back!
@chaosphoenix28124 жыл бұрын
At 7:21 in the background there is a triangular ship with three engines. Is that an ISD? Because the engines of venators and aclamators look different
@jovialmonster7574 жыл бұрын
It’s just a venator with one of its engines hidden by an antenna
@walkergargagliano1424 жыл бұрын
@thecazigan28 you didnt look closely enough
@walkergargagliano1424 жыл бұрын
i think it is a imperator class... the venator has a distinct 2 pairs of two main engines seperated by a hyperdrive bloc
@felps_45004 жыл бұрын
It looks like a Venator because of it's command tower, and there's an Antenna hiding one of it's smaller engines
@commanderpondscc-41124 жыл бұрын
@@walkergargagliano142 ye I can see it, it’s 100% a venator plus u can see the venators command tower and even the side hanger dent in the side of the ship
@andrewshandle4 жыл бұрын
Imagine waiting 25+ years to create an entire new fleet at Exogol that will enslave the Galaxy and deciding to tell the entire known universe about it one day before it's ready to launch....
@LiamSGue4 жыл бұрын
A good versus episode would be the Fleet of Particular Justice versus the First order fleet in TLJ
@AJSai30074 жыл бұрын
The Covenant will wipe those heretics from the face of the Galaxy!
@brucwayn64033 жыл бұрын
This was a different type of vid but i like it The vids that span generations are always interesting Thnx for the fun
@penguinsrockrgr8yt2164 жыл бұрын
Interesting speculative battle
@kyledougherty28234 жыл бұрын
I’m glad he brought back the Vs series, this is what actually brought me to his channel in the first place. I also have a few ideas for some match ups 1. First Order (as of TFA) vs. The Republic (during the clone wars) 2. Covenant (Halo) vs. The Republic (Clone Wars) 3. Rebel alliance (original trilogy) vs the UNSC (Halo) I have always wanted to know who would win in these match ups
@blighty86074 жыл бұрын
Marauder-Class Corvette vs Raider-Class Corvette Kom'rk-Class Fighter vs CF9 Crossfire Starfighter
@criran4 жыл бұрын
Love to see an original Eck-style video! These are the types of videos I subscribed for years ago. Still waiting for Jedi vs. Arbiter, though...
@RedLeader_One4 жыл бұрын
I like to know how they got all the Galaxy fleet through to Exegol.
@davidkippy1014 жыл бұрын
They had the signal from Luke's x-wing
@masonkiefer12223 жыл бұрын
@@davidkippy101 The Resistances CR90 corvette following the map seemed barely fit but somehow thousands of ships of similar or drastically bigger size have absolutely no issue even though the came all at once
@davidkippy1013 жыл бұрын
@@masonkiefer1222 they have enough firepower to destroy the red space tumor
@manolis.7994 жыл бұрын
I could watch that shot at 5:57 all day. I’ll never forget the first time I saw it.
@GregoryJohnson-l1g4 жыл бұрын
Loving the older style content
@oldhatAN3 жыл бұрын
The Republic Fleet has some inobvious but, I think, decisive advantages here. One is that it has a unified command structure with a clear chain of command. This is crucial in a large battle where a large number of assets have to be employed in a coordinated way. The lack of an established command structure or clear chain of command may turn the Galaxy Fleet's numbers into a liability here. Even basic communication would be a nightmare with thousands of people all talking at once and no one in charge. The Republic fleet also has a clear fleet structure and doctrine. They have a relatively small number of ship types with each one having a clear role in the fleet. Their ships are designed to work with each other and fit into a coherent doctrine. They can swap crews and pilots around freely between ships of the same type. If an ARC=170 crews gets their fighter shot out from underneath them, you can just stick then in another ARC-170 and they'll be good to go. The maintenance crews will be familiar with the ship and able to do the necessary work quickly and efficiently. Parts. munitions and even the crews themselves are standardized and can be swapped freely between ships of the same type. This logistical advantage could well be *the* decisive factor. I don't know much this transfers to Star wars spaceships but modern high performance military aircraft are complicated and maintenance intensive. Things quickly start breaking under the stress of combat. Fuel and munitions are used up at a rapid rate. Crews tire and need to be rotated out and replaced. It requires an enormous, coordinated logistical and maintenance effort just to keep ships in the fight. Ships in the Galaxy Fleet would start dropping out quickly as systems start breaking down under the stress with no compatible spare parts available since there is such a variety of different ships and so many of them have various ad hoc modifications.
@robertbarrows66874 жыл бұрын
You should do a battle comparison of the Operation Return vs Endor Fleet.
@beerasaurus4 жыл бұрын
JJ: I got an Idea, let's put all the ships in. The whole thing is unreal even for Star Wars.
@obi-wankenobi80954 жыл бұрын
_Oh, this is going to be easy..._
@anakinskywalker46184 жыл бұрын
This is where the fun begins.
@JoseMendoza-qs8yg4 жыл бұрын
The video I didn't know I needed, but I did
@corporategunner59724 жыл бұрын
The Resistance would lose, because they're "Just People."
@Erolsaurus4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm sure hundreds of capital ships including Mon Calamari ships, Nebulon Bs and Corellian Corvettes would fail against 5 venator-class star destroyers that are optimised for anti-starfighter weaponry.
@jumperwilli77704 жыл бұрын
@@Erolsaurus you mean more than 1000 venator star destroyer out of prob 1000 other starships controlled by the best officers of the repubkic with a full war of experience and future imperial officer as well as maybe a millions of fighters and boarding ships since these have huge carrying capacity. Also not forget the clones that work there raised from birth to be warriors. Against A bunch of people that use slow ass bombers...
@armandomendoza73713 жыл бұрын
@@jumperwilli7770 Let's not forget that one is just a crowd of people with just a few ships actually designed for war and no coordination or strategy that could help them againts a full war navy with some of the greatest soldiers specifically created and trained for a galaxy wide conflict and having a wide variety of strategies designed by their best tacticians, not counting the jedi generals that are also fighting that can attack the great ships from inside
@sombertownds1494 жыл бұрын
Just what i needed! Thank you!
@KuraMad20004 жыл бұрын
But according to Rian Johnson, each of those small civilian ships can just hyperspace ram the large republic ships and easily disable them with the collateral damage. 16 thousand civilian hyperspace missiles vs maybe 8 thousand republic capital ships, resistance fleet would easily win through attrition. If this sounds boring, yes, this is precisely why rian single handedly ruined the star wars universe with that one idiotic scene.
@coolstuff19594 жыл бұрын
Doesnt work the reasonhyperjumping into a star kills you is gravity the same concept behind interdictors then you are stuck at normal speeds inside a star killing you ramming doesnt work unless the object is in hyperspace in whoch case the act of hyperspace collisoon is disasterous but rian johnson misportrayed it as the ships were not in hyperspace
@OR562 жыл бұрын
Hyperspace ramming only works if you have enough mass to not vaporize on impact and do no damage. Which a ship any considerable amount smaller than the Raddus, with its 2x ISD mass, two GIGANTIC hyperdrives, and a perfect distance, can't do.
@muhammadksatriaakbarariend86842 жыл бұрын
So there is something we normal people called physic
@chuckman3214 жыл бұрын
2021 baby! It's going to be a vintage year for Star Wars.
@kozaamovies17794 жыл бұрын
These unorganized, inexperienced and untrained civilians would be massacred by GAR
@kostakatsoulis29224 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a pelta frigate in the fleet; 60 years later, they're still kicking ass
@shankarban11354 жыл бұрын
Most people here say the Coruscant fleet would win simply because they don't like the Rise of Skywalker, and provide bad reasons for this fleet winning. The Coruscant fleet has a tactical advantage. The Exegol fleet has a technological advantage (I mean Venators aren't really durable, a MC cruiser could probably take a venators down just by itself without suffering too much damage), a huge number advantage, and if we take this into account (which these videos usually don't), a "pilot" advantage. I mean, clones are bred to be warriors, to be the bests, but they are never depicted as really good pilots. They usually don't survive for long when they fly in TCW and Revenge of the Sith. The Exegol fleet, on the other hand, counts war veterans like Wedge and Lando, Poe who is supposed to be the best pilot of his time, smuggler and bounty hunters that probably fly in less conventional and more effective ways than the clones. Let's face it: the Exegol fleet, after being basically destroyed by Palpatine, still managed to destroy the Sith Eternal fleet. This was helped by the really obvious weak points and stupid design choices but the Sith Eternal are probably among the best ships ever produced in the Star Wars Galaxy, regarding weaponry and overall technology. Also, a theory about coordination: many ships at Exegol are the same model. It's done to reuse the same assets many times, but in universe it could be explained by most of these ships coming frome the same fleets. If that's true, each individual fleet that compose the Exegol fleet probably has its own admiral, chain of command and stuff. What I mean is that it's impossible to coordinate the entire fleet but the fleet itself is probably made of many fleets that have their own level of coordination. I'm not saying the Coruscant defense fleet would lose, I'm saying the answer wouldn't be that obvious and the battle wouldn't be that easy.
@mightheal4 жыл бұрын
Also legends has examples of fleet of smugglers and criminals taking on a fleet of Vong capital ships that are more complicated to take down compared to the Republic ships even unorganised the numbers are still in the Resistance's favour. I would say 7 or 8 times the Resistance fleet would win out of 10.
@thealexgundam50064 жыл бұрын
I would say no, in reality going up against 10,000 xytons which can't move really, no shields / can be blown up with a few shot at their big canon causing ship to blow up/ ( it because if bad writing and plot that they won) if xyton had shields and could move very freely, they have a way better command structure. The reason no is taking the resistance seriously is because it's mostly do to plot that win battles not out of actually tactics or skill Like the clones or even rebels. I mean tlj pretty raddus should been destroyed by a swarm of tie fighters, but didnt. If were talking about combat skills and even in terms of flying the clones beat them hands down/ po while a great pilot isnt going ( they aren't stormtrooper or first order trooper/ they were made to kill jedi) No matter good a ship is or advance it is, if its sitting in a dock without any defenses it going to get blown up. In 16 hours lando is some how able to convince everyone in galaxy to launch a attsck in 16 hours when in tlj when Leia called out for help when first order wasn't no where near that size no one came. These movie have to many problem that I can't take half crap seriously.
@noneed4me2n74 жыл бұрын
Happy to see this series return. Oh and maybe the Tie Defender vs the Missile Boat from the Tie Fighter pc game.
@brockkent48464 жыл бұрын
According to The Last Jedi almost all of the resistance fleet would of ran out of fuel long before getting to Exogal. 😂
@splatoonistproductions53454 жыл бұрын
IVE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS
@Ganonsmork4 жыл бұрын
Imagine all fleets and factions ever coming together against another galaxy. Imagine such a fleet. What do you think that fleet would be called?
@ImTheReverse4 жыл бұрын
The Ultra Mega AlphaChad Galactic Fleet
@Ganonsmork4 жыл бұрын
@@ImTheReverse yeah that sounds about right.
@OR562 жыл бұрын
The Uber Mega Giga Alpha Chad Galactic Union Fleet
@Ganonsmork2 жыл бұрын
@@OR56 yEA-
@OR562 жыл бұрын
@@Ganonsmork I know. It's amazing isn't it.
@christopherdriscoll66284 жыл бұрын
If the Pacific Theater of WW2 taught us anything, carriers with lots of fighters and bombers are far more effective than gun volleys. I agree, the Republic fleet should have that one in the bag.
@alexlaws50864 жыл бұрын
The Republic would wipe the floor with the Galaxy Fleet before they ever had to engage their capital ships. You say several thousand resistance starfighters and freighters, I say several hundred thousand Republic starfighters.
@jonathandemounteney48463 жыл бұрын
I like how he took tactics into account
@liltaco2234 жыл бұрын
I love the venator no matter what, hands down probably my FAVORITE ships in all of star wars
@commanderpondscc-41124 жыл бұрын
Same
@protiod4 жыл бұрын
Minor nitpick: Pausing the video to highlight specific ships felt a bit jarring. I assumed the video glitched. Maybe add the name of the ship so it feels more intentional. Great video. I just figured I'd mention it in case it helps make future videos feel more polished.