Rescuing My Sister's Mystery Spec, Low Cost "Gaming PC"

[@Nolanimations]

You should've played Farm Together in 4K on that upgraded rig

[@Gazer1610]

Would love to see that.

[@MeowsyaVRC]

same

[@atitana]

was just about to type that.

[@flagpoleeip]

He deffinitely should have gone back to Farm Together and Sims 2. I can't imagine why he didn't.

[@SanHydronoid]

@@flagpoleeip True

[@dquad]

But how does it handle The Sims 2 now?

[@DrKet]

ikr

[@pushatsinfrared]

But can it run Crysis?

[@UlrichLeland]

Does it run minesweeper at 10k 999 fps?

[@userk2876]

I was asking the same question. I thought he would run the same games again.

[@ReyaadGafur]

He should buy sims 4 as a present for his sis.

[@mattalewis13]

I’m now convinced he holds his family for ransom so he can review their computers

[@xbaumann]

I saw rescuing my sister in my notifications and though you went full Liam Neeson and we were in for a hellva tale. Edit: change on to a.

[@thedungeondelver]

"If you are looking for ransom I can tell you I don't have money, but what I do have are a very particular set of skills at upgrading older PCs. Skills I have acquired over a very long youtube career. Skills that make me required viewing for people like you. If you let my sister's PC go now that'll be the end of it. But if you don't...I will find you...and I will give you a bad review."

[@Chaotic_cookie89]

@@thedungeondelver I read that in neesons voice 🤣

[@horace.e6110]

*I will find you, and I will upgrade you*

[@supertouring1]

You could go full Liam Neeson on a computer upgrade and upgrade her to a Ryzen 3900x or an intel i9! :p

[@White-Wolf1969]

so a 3330 paired with a 7770, i guess the computer is a 1010100 now. Wow 800 likes, I didn't expect this poor joke to do this well.

[@IAmGaz_]

Rapitator 😂

[@NXDf7]

Lmao

[@KiraSlith]

"T"

[@AunknownMan]

HAHAHAHAHH Shut up please

[@the_silicon_senpai]

Maths Wrongly Done. It Should Be 11,100.

[@PatGamingApasStyle]

Cinebench multi core score - 420. Hmmmmmmmmm!

[@Renopus]

SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY

[@thesandman8885]

Pat Gaming Apa's Style blaze pit my man

[@strobilus]

All of you are under ten-years-old.

[@Renopus]

+Strobilus Excuse me sir, but you are wrong. I'm seventeen

[@strobilus]

that makes it worse

[@tech4mooo801]

How can anyone not love this guy

[@sauceru99]

ikr? Little British bundle of computer love

[@tech4mooo801]

@@sauceru99 yes

[@PatGamingApasStyle]

Pair that i5 with a 1050 2gb or a ti and it should play most AAA titles at medium- high settings.

[@twanheijkoop6753]

@Max Pain i5 3300 would bottleneck. My i5 4570 bottlenecks my gtx 960 ssc sometimes

[@oneblacksun]

@SekretAgentMans I have an I5 3470 with an RX 480 4gb, that was flashed into an RX 580. So far, I haven't experienced any bottlenecking.

[@OutOfRangeDE]

1050ti 4GB or 1060 6GB is the minimum of what i would recommend. 3GB is already barely enough in most games. In the near future it will be min spec. With 6 GB you turn the 1060 in a futureproof 1080p card.

[@greetedlight]

ive got an i5 3330 with a GTX 980 4gb and I can run most games medium-high even VR games i can run no problem

[@sauceru99]

Damn straight mate, the 1050 works wonders!

[@WouterVerbruggen]

Wooow, there's something seriously wrong there with the Sims 2. Even an Intel HD graphics should obliterate that game with frames

[@bananya6020]

its because the laptop hard drive

[@WouterVerbruggen]

Why'd you think that? You can't see it's type. And still the other games should have the same / a similar issue then

[@gnrtradepro]

Yep, the hdd is most likely the issue.

[@evers6214]

8gb ram is enough to cache that entire game. I doubt the hdd is the problem. However i think there is something wrong with the windows install there were s bunch of stuttering even after he upgraded the graphics to a gpu thats 10x better.

[@gnrtradepro]

E Vers Thats not how it works. The game will have a set limit to ram usage, it will not cache the entire game. He could creat a ramdisk and run the whole game from there, but thats beside the point. Issues with both windows and the poor performance from sims 2 indicate poor page file function and read/write problems with the hdd.

[@DouweB91]

Yesterday i bought a complete desktop with an i7 870 for €15 (17 usd) on a local online marketplace. put a second hand gtx 950 2gb superclocked in it for €45 (52 usd). now my little brother is rocking hard in fortnite. a nice bargain for $70.

[@volkswagenginetta]

these are my favorite builds.

[@mohammedanfal7231]

Damn that build is even better than a normal PS4 ,xbox1

[@DragonProtector]

But does it beat a fx9590 with a gigabyte fx990 ud3 r5 mb 8gb ram and fx 6300 cpu for $137

[@Gun4Freedom]

anikanbounty97, You could ebay that 9590 for $100, then buy a used gtx960 4gb or rx470 and be good to go.

[@darrens3494]

Lucky, where I'm at, everything is damn expensive. For example, you'll laugh at this but a GTX 1060 is, in dollars, 500 to $600

[@ProtoMario]

I hate their upside down mobo's so much...

[@soljafon]

Bitfenix portal

[@aoucelloutus3573]

Up next seagull pc

[@somethingsinlife5600]

Isn't it lovely when your family members never ask you for advice about what to buy when it actually matters. But on the other hand they are always bothering you when you don't want them to.

[@dragos2010full1]

is not the cpu that made it stutter more than sure it was the crap 2.5inch laptop hdd that was in the pc

[@nathan_tasker]

Very true. An SSD would make a huge difference to the performance.

[@overlorddoge1952]

it does affect stutters

[@ir-dan8524]

Unless you have one gigabyte of ram, the hdd doesnt come into play. Plus, i use mostly 205 inch hdds and they seem to perform quite well at 10k rpm

[@evers6214]

That cpu isn’t bad should not have caused stuttering. However 1 gb vram isn’t very good When a game goes past that it uses system ram to page textures and the ddr3 1333 mhz is not going to perform as well as the stuff he has in the Ryzen. I know he thonks highly of that gpu but i bet replace it with a 2gb gtx 1050 and those stutters go away. Other thing to check is the crap running in the background my fathers hp is similar and I was surprised to see some factory bloat ware using up 1/2 the resources.

[@overlorddoge1952]

Internet Recluse that's a really false statement my gtx 1060 8gb of ram i5 7400 was stuttering like crazing when loading textures with my old Toshiba harddrive then when I upgraded to a sshd (seagate firecuda) it fixed it

[@adispenser]

This sounds EXACTLY like the games my sister would play lol

[@mrmaniac3]

Big sister energy

[@edwardelric717]

Girls love the Sims, Tomb Raider and weirdly enough GTA

[@williamliesenberg]

Dual Channel on the RAM would help a lot too! Give her a video card and another 8G memory and you are golden! Best Regards, Will

[@MadIIMike]

I kinda doubt the Bottleneck is the CPU, maybe it's the HDD (looked like a 2,5"?) or the Ram not running in dual channel (keep in mind the GPU might have to use RAM as it has only 1GB Vram). A i5 3330 should be bottlenecked by a 7770 in most cases.

[@LeminskiTankscor]

Easily. The i5-3330 is a fine CPU for what's being asked of it here.

[@TheRealFobican]

Should have given her a SSD for the OS though, it´s a great improvement if you´re going to game on it.

[@ayuchanayuko]

My pc runs tomb raider faster. Win10 1803, 2500k, 7770 1gb, green Hdd, 1080p Something is wrong with this PC, probably config or software

[@DragonProtector]

Agree

[@MarshallRawR]

You triggered my OCD bud, you showed us the performance on games she wants to play at first then only tried Tomb Raider and two unrelated game. Is that a spanking you want?

[@DragonProtector]

Ya lol but oh well

[@LittleAdam15]

If it can run call of duty it can run sims

[@toastdtech3597]

The i5 3300 is still very good it's in my brothers pc with a rx 460 and still runs things great

[@superwario64]

its about to die

[@howtogitgud]

@@superwario64 so basically you tell i5-2500 also gonna die too?

[@UnluckyBro-]

Creepboom Labatory It runs 144p great

[@superwario64]

@@howtogitgud i5 2500k is good cuz u can overclock it to get a i3 8100 like performance.

[@howtogitgud]

@@superwario64 i don't even say the "k"

[@ToxicScifi]

the cpu would do much better by adding another 8gb stick or swapping that 8gb out for 2x4gb so dual channel works.

[@filippk14]

What does EVERY girl that i know, even my girlfriend and sister love to play sims???

[@TDGalea]

I am literally dealing with three of these in work as an eBay order CAN U DONT

[@DragonProtector]

Rip

[@jeannejordan3036]

DED

[@mrmaniac3]

I can do n’t

[@lakota_himself]

Cinebench score of 420. Hell yeah brother

[@LexxDesign3D]

Windows 7 is awesome, installed it last night on an i7-870 and GTX 760 to play the entire Half Life series!

[@ThatParticularPainter]

when will you continue the mac pc build?

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Ah I'm glad you said that I'm having a custom part made for it now. I picked the hardest chassis to modify apparently haha

[@ThatParticularPainter]

@@RandomGaminginHD glad to hear that i thought you forget about the mac pc build.... take your time bro i really wanted to see its finished 😂

[@solarstrike33]

@@RandomGaminginHD How's that coming along?

[@FS--ew3se]

@@solarstrike33 ik

[@aimanpg8634]

LOVE YOUR CLEAN AND CLEAR NARRATING !

[@martinlinden4129]

I would rather hade used the 1650 low profile you hade in another video. Hade been more in line what a normal user would have done and would be getting better fps without change that powersupply. Vut just my opinion keep up the good work

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Your sister must be really happy with the improvements! I remember going from my Celeron laptop from 2009 with Vista to a mobile i7 with a 750M. I was blown away

[@SonGoku-mj5pq]

I want to send you some budget stuff, please hmu.

[@demkikun7783]

you COULD give it to us (ehem me)

[@gielnw9891]

When you pair this pc with a decent gpu you will get a very good gaming experience on even the latest games.

[@Sector001ked]

I'm looking forward to your bird's PC review ;-)

[@njsullyalex2744]

I don't know why it is so satisfying seeing old, boring prebuilts upgraded into killer gaming PCs. Your sister will definitely be happy with the addition of that Radeon.

[@laserlock6491]

I paired that cpu with a gtx1060 and 8gb of ram. Works great for League of Legends on 1440p, but CoD Warzone on 1080p doesn’t work quite as good.

[@AlexStroiescu]

Niko: This Is The Gaming PC? Roman:The Gaming PC Is Comming, Cousin, That's The Dream!

[@gvi341984]

How come it wasn't cleaned with new TP? I think the stuttering is caused by improper cooling and HDD being a fragmented mess.

[@PikaHB]

the budgie in the background just be peacfully chirpin and vibing lol.

[@jackfoot1257]

Just upgraded my 1070 to a 2080ti for some future proofing couldn’t be more satisfied, but yet instead of watching vids on crazy powerful pcs like mine I still love you vids about old but gold pcs gives me nostalgia

[@bakedpotato1238]

I have that cpu paired with an rx460 and I'm loving it

[@attack0nmem0ry]

So, big brother! After reviewing her PC & throwing the 7770 in, does she keep the upgrade/get a discount? That would be extremely classy.

[@Jamestb0060]

My LAN pc has an i5-3330 in it and when ever I have to get it out, it never lets me down!

[@ayylmaotv]

del optiplex gaming rig

[@AlexandriAce]

Throw a 3770 in there for good measure, a 600W PSU, and a 1060, and she's got a system that'll last for another few years at least. Maybe upgrade the RAM to 16GB?

[@WillowAlchemist]

Those are my pc specs :o even the psu

[@kifla7526]

Yeah , at least make it 8gb dual channel

[@TAnimations]

3770? What core i?

[@nororlol4life819]

@@TAnimations obviously i7

[@TAnimations]

@@nororlol4life819 okay

[@sixtyinsix]

A lot of that stuttering could be alleviated by installing a second ram stick. Intels CPU and GPU rely on memory in dual channel for maximum throughput.

[@Spyralv4r3]

1:03 "window 7 will always be my personal favorite" Microsoft : I'm about to ruin this man's career.

[@Technikkeller]

For everyone who thinks "hey, let's buy a hp pc"... Ich you find a g good offer for one of those please be aware that these pre-built hp's which come with a sandy bridge (second Generation) CPU won't support every Gpu you will put in. For example the gtx 700 series (750ti, 780, 960...) and up won't work. But if they come with an ivy bridge CPU (third generation) they should run fine with almost every GPU. Mainly they have to have a newer bios version but you can't update OEM's Mainboards that great.

[@RetroPiero]

For anyone who just wants to know the specs of this pc... -8gb DDR3 of ram -Intel HD Graphics 2500 -Core I5 3330 -Windows 8 64-bit

[@DragonProtector]

Thx wait wasn't it w10?

[@davidchester1612]

@@DragonProtector it is win10 now, and was win8 when built.

[@davidchester1612]

Have a model number? It would be good to have a look the manufacturers spec's for the machine in regards to max memory support, number of SATA ports, so on.

[@ThomasShaneHynes]

Max memory is 16GB, 4 sata ports.

[@davidchester1612]

@@ThomasShaneHynes Thanks. Any idea on which HP model it is?

[@pancakefish]

this video is such a masterpiece lol. the subtle jokes at the beginning made me laugh

[@RetroAdventure]

Very similar to my previous gaming rig. I would still be happy to play with the 7770 anytime.

[@TheBcoolGuy]

Funny. I just found a Core2Duo HP PC from 2009 today.

[@MasticinaAkicta]

Yes, trustable core i5's. Very trustable. You get some really decent performance with them CPU wise that is. It helps to have a dedicated GPU to actually USE that power too.

[@DarrenHowseMusic]

Picking up a Dell Optiplex 9020 slim w/ a core i7 4770, and 8gb dual channel 1600mhz ram that includes a monitor and keyboard/mouse for $200 Canadian. Throw in an SSD and a low profile 1050ti for around $150 and bam. I already have a primary rig but finding this deal made it hard to pass on! Just figured I'd share this find with all of you budget builders! Cheers from Nova Scotia!

[@Akarsh1305]

These are actually pretty fun things to watch just because of the old tech involved

[@0rogontorogon]

I think the reason why he didn't choose a more modern gpu is because of the motherboard. The mobo used in that system is a HP proprietary board called Cupertino2 and for whatever reason this board doesn't support anything newer than Nvidia Fermi (the 5xx series).

[@LOSTKILLERDRAENEI]

Love the budgie in the background!!!

[@lordzansu]

havent seen the video with sound.. but don't underestimate the requirements of the sims games series they really benefit from good single thread performing cpu with at least 2 cores, 3-4 gb ram as well as a 7770 preferably better, and lastly a large ssd. Its mostly all in the amount of stuff/junk you put in the game, the amount of expansions and the amount of stuff you put in the loaded area's

[@Zizzily]

420, you say? Hey smokers, Druaga1 here!

[@zombieplayer8263]

druaga1 here now today were gonna change this hard drive and put in an ssd and install windows xp

[@lorddante571]

YOU DIDN'T TEST FARM TOGETHER AFTER ADDING A GPU!!!! THAT'S NOT COOL MAN, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT YOU HARVESTING THESE CROPS IN FULLHD BRO

[@jersey2450]

i5 with a 7770 and 8gb single channel on cod ww2 doesn't stutter like mine does, am i doing something wrong? like i got dual channel 16gb ddr4 an rx 570 and a ryzen cpu and my game goes from 40 to 10 fps at low settings :l

[@Shrek-iv8gu]

I got a computer from my Grandmother in hopes of uograding it and using it for light gaming. I get it, and first sign is the DC In Power Adapter plugged into the board. I open it up to find it has 2 DDR3 ram slots, a passive cooled AMD Fusion E300 1.3ghz Dual Core BGA CPU and not a PCI Slot to ve seen of any kind. Only ports on the board are populated besides the second ram slot. It is a HP Pavilion P2

[@OnTheRoadcast]

I have a gateway OEM PC that has an I5 3330 I upgraded it to 16gb's of ram and paired it with an RX 580 I got for cheap and it runs everything I can throw at it. I'm really impressed.

[@valrabellkeys9867]

Wow, that is actually a good computer. I was expecting along the lines of a core 2 or an Athlon 64 x2.

[@ReyaadGafur]

Farm together is going to become a benchmark title with advanced options.

[@tavi3938]

I actually used one of those hp pro systems as a base for my gaming rig. The case im using is from an older hp pavilion that i really like but im using the motherboard, psu, cooler, and dvd-r drive from the hp pro. For a few days i also used the g870 that came stock but then the core i5 2400 i ordered arrived.

[@indiawest2025]

My man, back at it

[@DarkRickle]

as some others already said,the stutter is not the cpu it's most likely the hard-drive and as a metter of a fact that i5 can use much more powerfull gpus then a hd 7770, mine was paired with 750 ti,sadly dark souls 3 prove too much for both since they were both at a 100% usage,also and more importantly,you did not check how much memory was given to the internal gpu by default it only has 48 mb

[@dj_paultuk7052]

Ive actually got that exact model PC shoved in a cupboard running ESXi 5.5 with 16GB RAM, and a 1TB drive. Runs about 7 VM's that I use for various things.

[@Joeker8171]

You really know how to make things workout when it was no hope. AWESOME VIDEO

[@nolag6643]

I'm from Tunisia And you are my favourite KZbinr 🔝

[@mobilesnapper79]

Slap a 120gb ssd in and change the location of videos documents and alter the registry so the default instal path is on the larger drive and move the page file over as well. With a 1050ti 4gb and some pmw case fans she will have a great entertainment pc and can use it as her entertainment hub. It's not just the price of a pc it's the parts inside. CeX even do 10600 ram in 8gb sticks ddr3 for £15 to beef it up to 16gb. That will prob last her another 10yrs at least.

[@matt4193]

Nice computer overall. With another stick of RAM (maybe 2x 4GB of the highest speed the board can take) plus a GPU and you're set. Mayyyyyybe a SSD for overall snappiness (?)

[@Ariund0]

those i5's hold up to the test of time well, i have a 3470 and i don't have hardly any issues with framerate. i have it paired with a rx 580 and i can play Siege with everything on ultra settings at 60fps in 1440p with no dips in framerate. i do plan to upgrade to an i7-3770 though as i'm getting one with a mobo for a good price.

[@h1n1viruz]

dude, always love your vids, keep em up!

[@captainchaos7706]

I bought a refurbished optiplex with the same processor and ram. I threw a 3gb gtx1060 and a power supply, and it games quite well.

[@deltoid77-nick]

I wanted to know everything about the PC all the parts the hard drive or motherboard and I wanted to see the comparison of how it did with the farming Sim at the beginning but you didn't do that and I was also curious what your sister thought.

[@davidchester1612]

Same, also it would be great to find of what model HP it is so we could have a look at the specs for items like the chipset, any limitations on CPU upgrades, the max memory it can support.

[@TheSpotify95]

I think the main problem at the time was the single channel memory; 8GB in dual channel (2x 4GB) would have worked better. For some reason, HP like using single channel memory in a lot of their computers.

[@versus_01]

This PC is an HP 3500 MT and it can make the best used budget gaming PC. I have one with i5 3470, 8 gb ddr3 1600mz and gtx 1050ti. It plays all games at 1080p, Far Cry 5 plays at 1080p high settings with vsync on, 40-60 fps!

[@Turnbull50]

I have just discovered your channel and I'm enjoying all your video's and have subscribed and spent a lot of time going through your older video's

[@carft1234]

Time to drop Cod WW2 and use Blops 4 instead .

[@Arin-3]

Graphics are shit in BO4

[@SuperHDninja]

If MSI afterburner doesn't work, you can always use the overlay included in new AMD drivers

[@errol4243]

I second the motion. You really should've benchmarked the same games with the same settings to show the difference after the upgrade. Wasn't much of an upgrade anyway. As many have have also suggested, an SSD upgrade would have made a big difference. And a 3770 CPU?

[@danielsgrunge]

That's 1000% better than expected

[@STRIKEFORCE225]

Did you give the graphics card back as well to your sister???

[@TheYazukaa]

I had a similar pc back in 2012 but I had a i3-2120 and 6gb of ram. In 2017 I got bored and I was messing with it and somehow ended up putting a GTX980Ti and a RM850x psu inside it. Which was fun trying to put the cables into it though the old disk tray area as I took it out

[@FinalLuigi]

A 750Ti or better would be the perfect GPU for this computer, as not only will it outperform the HD7770, it also uses much less power and the 2GB of VRAM will allow it to play most modern games. But as others said, the HDD might be the issue with it, it might be too slow for the games.

[@P3RPL3X]

420 ist „still pretty reasonable“?! Are you kidding me? That‘s absolutely lit! That CPU must have been blazing trough that benchmark!

[@MrXtremeboy991]

There's nothing better than having a wide range of cheap hardware that's still capable of handling a lot of games.

[@pauls4522]

This pc could easily take up to a 1070 to achieve excellent performance. to keep power a bit low I'd likely go with a 1050ti. I was honestly thinking it would be something ancient like a core 2 duo. I was shocked on the ram and the actual cpu installed. For those who do not know. the sims 2 only uses a single cpu core! Although with that cpu, even being the lowest one of that lineup should still rock the sims 2. What I think the issue is, is that I believe the sims 2 also loves accessing the hdd, so maybe an hdd would speed it up.

[@josephpbrown]

How's my PC looking? i5-2400, GTX 770 2gb Gainward Phantom, Intel DQ67SWB3, Corsair VS650, some crappy 2010 Cooler Master case(planning to upgrade this christmas), old 250gb Seagate HDD for Windows (sata II, 7200rpm, 61 power-on hours, from our loft, planning to add an SSD this christmas), a second 120gb Maxtor 7200rpm SATA I graphics card for Linux, Acer monitor(1080p 75hz, TN, 1ms response time), old Samsung 1024p 60hz monitor, Saitek Eclipse keyboard(quite old, planning to upgrade this christmas), a cheap Logitech wireless mouse and some Labtec speakers

[@tuxi8493]

Great Rig :)

[@Ascendance2001]

Nice little system now I bet your sister's going to like it

[@opgamer7658]

everybody gangsta until mom gets the first place in Farm Together Competitive Gaming Tournament

[@miknew20]

cool video but you didnt show the games she plays again. i wanted to see the gains on what she likes. not some unrelated games

[@javierortiz82]

Fun fact, my dad has a pc that's almost the same specs, but brand new in his closet, he asked for my help building it and since then it hasn't even been turned on.

[@imtherealvict1m]

just a little tip on siege terrorist hunt is more demanding so your fps would probably be higher in multiplayer

[@Thomaswake]

What did your sister think of the upgrade?

[@DeViLzzz2006]

Stumbling over your words a bit and getting some things said wrong is not the norm for you but just noticed it in this video. I am glad that the "internal video card" worked out well to make your sister's pc more acceptable to game on. Also the i5 cpus (Sandy Bridge) still working for me and others today for sure. A great cpu and so thankful I bought it back then.

[@woooweee]

SSD most important, for daily use of course. That gpu wasn't enough, an i5 can feed something better. The minimum should have been something closer to an r7 260x

[@zsomborkosaras6655]

I had this system I used a few years ago. The only exception was that I had the Gigabyte version of the 7770.

[@Gunzee]

What was that thing Intel had with the Ivybridge cpus? It would link the igpu and gpu together? I tried Google but couldn't get results. It was the few things alongside the ssd cache that made me pick a i5 3570k upon release. Also what's happened to the bundle deals? I remember getting a cpu, mobo and ram from aria for around £300 this was very shortly after ivy release. It was good ram corsair vengence @1600 or 1866 and a good gigabyte mobo.

[@wernerlarrobis6810]

I have that cpu paired with 16gb ram and a 1070 ti. Still pretty fast. Most triple A titles still go up past 60fps

[@Riccccccc]

i bought a brand new set from HP with the exactly as this + 20" monitor same case back when I knew nothing about PCs. cost me $999, it had an i3 2100, 2gb ram and didnt even have a graphics card. i still regret it to this day.