Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles: RE Retrospective

[@charliethegent]

Those areas in the RE 3 section look like they are pulled from RE:Outbreak

[@Maxx________]

charliethegent Not only were locale assets pulled from Outbreak but such as the Apple Inn, but enemy assets were too lol.

[@provalone]

They are, the scene by the store front there during the video is in Outbreak 1, and if I remember correctly, they also hit up the sewers and hotel areas from those games.... wish they did the zoo stage from Outbreak 2, that would have been a ton of fun with its zombie lions and elephant.

[@DonalC96]

You're right, they are, mostly from the End of the Road scenario ( Front of Apple Inn, Nyx boss arena)

[@Armageddon-yt3so]

not to mention one of the Boss fights is with the T-400TP Tyrant from Outbreak 2 when you play Ada's Campaign

[@caaltaes732]

This areas are from RE outbreak file 2 in the umbrella city facility scenario

[@lazaromartinez4097]

The cursor "lag" is actually a smoothing effect added to all games to mask the fact that in reality the wiimote is kinda jumpy (something that is only noticeable when using the wiimote on PC with an adapter), but playing on the machine itself it is a non issue. Also, there's a very simple trick to land lots of headshots in this game: Aim a bit over the head, so when you press the trigger, the pointer goes down by a notch because of your own motion and you get a perfect headshot every single time. Also, last but not least, the game "punishes" you if miss and you don't hit anything "hitable", so there's a cooldown time period during which you cannot shoot immediately again, but if you keep choosing your targets, yu can blast with continuous fire. If you keep these things in mind the game becomes pretty enjoyable.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Wow! I never knew that (about missing your target) What cool little mechanic!

[@PersianGamer36]

I’m seeing this lag on the ps3 as well

[@KamenRider1]

I think the Chronicles games were actually a good way to have a crash course through the lore of the series, as well as a fun game to play with friends. I sure as hell did enjoy playing it with my girlfriend on her Wii. 😁 I do wish these games would make a comeback in the arcades since House of the Dead had recently made it's own return in the arcades.

[@ursaber]

Kamen Rider 1 - I agree on all points.

[@batmangovno]

Arcades aren't as good as they used to be. In the early 90s SEGA was developing the fastest 3D machines with a goddamn jet plane manufacturer, now they are just PCs. Makes them easier to access though, TeknoParrot can launch some Taito and Namco machines which is really cool.

[@KamenRider1]

Immense Data I'm from the Philippines and Arcades here are alive and well due to the fact that a majority of the population have little interest in investing in gaming hardware . However, I am aware of the state of Arcades in the U.S. via my peers and I am very saddened to know the state they're in now. Personally, I prefer meeting people from different walks of life in an arcade. It's how I met my (aforementioned) girlfriend via playing a couple of rounds of Tekken 6 with her at Quantum Arcade Baguio City. Now I have a training partner in Shotokan Karate and Arnis, as well as someone to play games with. 😁

[@Leon0000]

while seeing an arcade revive would be really cool I like to think that they should port on-rails to the pc since using a mouse can be just as good as a gun controller. At lease the classics. That's just my opinion.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Man, I really should play these games co-op. Everyone is making me feel like I'm missing out.

[@SlyBeast]

I'll tell you the best way to play this: with a friend that loves the RE series as much as you do. My RE buddy and I had a blast playing through this one several times and its sequel wound up being an excuse for both of us to call in sick. Good times.

[@AvalancheReviews]

I really need to get over my bias and play these games co-op. Everyone is making them sound so much more fun that way.

[@jakemontell.7415]

Hey fun fact. The voice actor for Chris in this version of the game...was also the same actor for him in the animated movie Vendetta.

[@lisacastro3899]

Jake Montell. Wow, didn't know that. I kinda miss Roger Craig Smith as Chris. Lol

[@jakemontell.7415]

Lisa Castro Yap. Games change...Leon will probably change in re8 lol.

[@littlegreenghouls3702]

@@jakemontell.7415 how have I only realised Leon shows up every 2 games in the mainline

[@MaximBG]

@@littlegreenghouls3702 Guess 8 was a exception

[@AudioXVNVXTheNightLife]

@9:40 the zombie definitely got that Jill sandwich

[@UponDemise666]

🎭 AudioXVNVX 🎭 that's the honeypot dawg.

[@TurboBeads]

🎭 AudioXVNVX 🎭 classic!😂

[@AudioXVNVXTheNightLife]

@@TurboBeads lmao being a zombie ain't so bad haha

[@AudioXVNVXTheNightLife]

@DecepticonMecha lmao you have a dirty mind bro, none of us were thinking that.........

[@doodledevore7745]

@@AudioXVNVXTheNightLife what did he say?

[@Kevinb1821]

This isn't a bad game to play with a friend. Get a few beers and go to town on some mindless zombie killing. Had a great time years ago when i got this for the wii.

[@Kaidus4ce]

The side stories and Umbrella's End bring more to the table when it comes to additional lore: Wesker conspiring with Birkin to leave Umbrella, how Rebecca and Richard are found together in game 1 (as Chris), and I could go on; I enjoyed those. What really gets my liking of it over Darkside is that instead of having only 1 choice for a shotgun, machine gun, grenade launcher, magnum and Rocket Launcher: there are 3 of each.

[@husni1998]

The re 3 cenarios on umbrella chronicles are from outbreak 1 and 2 .and can you do a alone in the dark retrospective ? Or a forbidden siren retrospective ?

[@AvalancheReviews]

Maybe not the full AITD series, but there are two games that I really want to review. Never played Siren before.

[@UponDemise666]

Lisa Trevor was written out of the original game b/c of limitations in graphics & gameplay mechanics. However her story is amazing & one of the best parts of REmake. Her backstory is a wonderfully written part in the whole series. Great video as usual, keep that fire burning!!!!!!

[@AvalancheReviews]

I don't think I mentioned Lisa in this video at all, but I still appreciate the nice words. HA! I will definitely keep that fire burning!

[@UponDemise666]

Avalanche Reviews @ 2:25 u made a side note that "because of the 9-10 minute segments saying the stories have been condensed is an understatement. & that you didn't mind because you couldn't care less about Billy & Lisa Trevor's story arcs.

[@jjenk911]

Speaking of Darkside Chronicles, the devs put A LOT of money into it. Huge budget.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Well, it definitely shows. That game looks amazing.

[@GiubileiFernando]

I wish they had just remade 3 again in TDC

[@zacharygossett5136]

Those graphics were on par with early PS4. I bet the budget was spent after CGI

[@Zythria]

So... Aiming is not motion controls. Not saying it is any less at fault. Just saying you are blaming the wrong thing. It is an infrared pointer. Still not that great but when you waggle that is motion controls when you aim that is infrared.

[@AvalancheReviews]

This is true

[@ModernDayGunSlinger]

When you just get done with a run and find a new RE Retrospective video in your subscription feed 👌

[@AvalancheReviews]

That's how I get ya.....right when you're least expecting it!

[@charlesderosas5577]

Basically the house of the dead for RE

[@VoicesOfChaos]

I doubt many others can say this but this was actually one of my first ever RE games and it got me really interested in the stories of the classic RE games which made me go get and play them all afterwards. As I have said about all my other favorite RE games, this is a ton of fun to play co-op with someone. Especially if you want to share your love of RE with someone who definitely would not enjoy classic RE. I also really do feel like the variety of weapons needs to be praised.

[@OneTrueNobody]

As I remember hearing it, the 3D environments in the RE1 and RE0 portions of the game were based not on the pre-rendered backgrounds but on the actual 3D assets created during the production of the game, i.e. the environments they took "snapshots" of to create those backgrounds. It would seem Capcom had abandoned the old-school mentality of deleting excess data after a game project is completed, a relic of an age when storage space was a much more limited resource, and had simply kept those assets around in case they wanted to re-use them for something.

[@AvalancheReviews]

That's insanely interesting! I would love to see a behind the scenes kind of video, showing this process. That sounds so damn cool!

[@Gaff.]

Yeah, these assets are available on-line and there has been a lot of discussion amongst 3D modeller RE fans (like myself) that's led to some interesting revelations. Can't remember anything off the top of my head but I'm sure it's easy enough to find if you dig a bit.

[@brunomilocchi3897]

I think that motion control in and of itself is totally fine. The problem lies on the people that Just aren't used to use It and already think that standard control is better before trying It. I played many motion control games, and heck my favorite games are centered around motion control (Metroid Prime Trilogy). I can totally agree on the motion control not fitting with QTEs but other than that, saying that Motion control is bad because it's Motion control is simply a dumb internet trend

[@UnicornStorm]

agreed

[@picolete]

Also for rail shooter the Wii was almost perfect, after all not many people still use CRTs so a lightgun wouldn't work

[@brunomilocchi3897]

picolete that is very true

[@AvalancheReviews]

You might be right there. It may very well be an issue with individual developers.

[@FatherJosephofMomma]

When this game came out I bought it and played it with my buddy, as we both shared massive love for the OG RE series and enjoyed lightgun arcade cabinets. The game isn't perfect but we played it so much, always trying to "speedrun" the chapters and get the highest rank. After awhile we play to see who would kill the most and even try to steal the weapons and health from each other.

[@AvalancheReviews]

I never got in to it too much myself, but I loved Darkside chronicles.

[@FatherJosephofMomma]

I never got to Darkside but from what you said in the video, I would be crazy not to try it.

[@bryanmoberg8408]

I will argue to my death that this is the best Rail Shooter ever made.

[@SianaGearz]

Actually both issues you've identified are fairly common among Wii's lightgun games. One is that the software averages the sensor input over multiple frames exactly in order to eliminate noise and allow you to precisely line up nearly pixel perfect shots, and other that the area mapped to the screen is smaller than the range of optical sensor motion. I think if you train to decelerate smoothly while lining up the shot, you will find it a lot less offensive. It is to be kept in mind that the sensor resolution is only 128x64 pixels from which it divines up to 4 (generally 2) optical target positions at 1024x768 resolution; effectively higher resolution comes about by making the optics fairly blurry and comparing the brightness of neighbouring pixels, which means quite a few pixels of deviation depending on individual pixel noise are possible.

[@AvalancheReviews]

That's interesting as hell. It seems like some devs were better at mitigating these issues, than capcom, since I've played some wii shooters that controlled much better than this.

[@RPGtourguide]

I played this on the Wii and I enjoyed it for the most part. It was a nice nostalgic look back on the series. I sadly don’t have my copy anymore. My brother had borrowed it along with my Wii gun accessory - one of those plastic models you slide the Wiimote into - and lost them both. I’ll need to readd it to my collection sometime.

[@KarosuMaker]

The best way to play Umbrella and Darkside was to use one of those gun like attatchments for the wii-mote, prefferibly a third party one, those were way better than the Nintendo official.

[@SanguineSpirit616]

That Carlos voice actor is definitely an improvement.

[@StallionX3]

"I rock at games, RE games, if I suck really hard it's the controller fault obviously, not mine, so now i'll proced to insult it".

[@tigercastle2428]

So many RE games! I feel like we’re getting so deep that I keep thinking “another one?!!”...but like in a good way

[@AvalancheReviews]

Let's hope I never have you saying that in the bad way. HA

[@eolley92290]

Although I love your retrospective I have to disagree with you this one time even tho I have agreed with almost everything in the entire retrospective so far but I found this game incredibly fun and accessible with its co-op being one of its biggest draws maybe it’s the nostalgia of me having couch co-op with my best friend but I still feel this is a great way to introduce new people who quickly become new fans of the series so that being said I felt the built in lag was more of a skill curve built in the wii as a whole was made to be an easy to handle console and I really felt like a badass when I would get into a rhythm of headshots and critical hits in the game can’t wait for the next one sir I’m always looking forward to your videos and I’m gonna be bummed as hell once your done with the retrospective

[@AvalancheReviews]

Hey man, more power to you. I'm happy when people find games they like, regardless of how I feel about them. It wasn't terrible though, but just not the kind of game I typically get into. I'm sure me not getting into rail shooters had a lot to do with it. I will say this: I didn't enjoy the shit out of darkside, so maybe I just have weird tastes.

[@eolley92290]

Avalanche Reviews looking forward to your retrospective on dark side bc I felt there was a major drop off in the visuals for me among other problems

[@raulvito6246]

eolley92290 hey anything is way for fun in coop and yeah I kind of liked on rail shooters with House of the Dead beign fondly remembered by me

[@middykittygaming9133]

Also quick note. Some of the areas early in the RE3 levels are actually areas from the stage "Outbreak" from Resident Evil Outbreak. The street with the cop cars, the little ally way behind the 2 big wooden doors in the same area, Apple Inn and all that such. Straight from Resident Evil Outbreak.

[@C6evolution2008]

Delightfully fun! I enjoyed seeing an updated Nemesis. Hated what they did to his voice though.

[@Hayatehiroyuki25]

Whats funny is that this was my personal introduction to the RE series. I saw RE being played before but it scared me as a kid. However, when it came to the railgun action gameplay of Umbrella Chronicles, it kept some of the fear away and made it more accessible for kid me, while exposing me to the story of RE.

[@iamcarpetpython]

First, I would have to strongly disagree with the generally negative review of this game. Umbrella and dark side chronicles weren't meant to be new installments in the RE series gameplay and story, but a parallel and recap covering the previous games, and where as the previous games were very in depth one player games, these were easy to jump into games that you can play multiplayer with your friends that both RE newcomers and veterans alike can enjoy. Many of the criticisms, like the maps not matching in my opinion are unfair since the older games had such cramped environments, while this is a rail shooter, and as a collector of rail shooters, I would have to also disagree that this game is a bad rail shooter. That said, I do appreciate tge in depth analysis of the details about the game. Second, I'd like to add, for anyone playing these on the wii, use the plain wiimote with the numchuck thing, the guns (even the one made specifically for umbrella chronicles suck. Third, in light of the control issues mentioned, I'd like to say, one feature that would have made these games better would have been a button that sent your cursor back to center when it got all lost jumbled in one of the corners of the screen. Thanks for posting. I'll keep watching :-)

[@AvalancheReviews]

Glad you liked the analytical aspect of it, and I can totally admit, the negativity might come from me being so bad at rail shooters. I may have read your comment wrong, but in case I didn't I wanted to make sure to mention that the comments about the devs wanting to make this a new entry in the series, were in regard to the early planning stages of the game. I wasn't trying to say that this was meant to be a new entry.

[@sagaciousassessor6237]

I got S ranks on most of the missions in this game and I’m not even good at shooters. Physically aiming at a thing feels way more natural than using an analog stick. I wonder what drugs the entire internet was taking when this game came out

[@DDuMas]

On the Wii you should try it with the Wii Zapper or something like that (a third party one). I couldn't imagine just using the Wiimote. But using both hands to steady the Wiimote using something like the Wii Zapper, makes all the difference. So far I'm finding it surprisingly fun.

[@szechuon6971]

When Billy swung from the rafter of the train shouting "It's Coen time!" while kicking that zombie, I literally cried as I realized Umbrella Chronicles was truly one of the most video games. In all seriousness, my brother and I had HOURS of fun playing this game. We'd replay it over and over to get all the files and try to S rank the game. If you are an RE fan, this one is worth playing if you have a Wii.

[@JoseGarcia-uq2kr]

Love all the hard work and research you've put into every one of these videos. Keep up the fascinating work and reviews!

[@AvalancheReviews]

Thank you! It's good to be appreciated.

[@Deeplycloseted435]

Really enjoy your reviews. I have only played RE1, 2, 3, 4, and CV. Then I started working 70 hours a week, marriage, kid, divorce, etc.....but getting back to gaming and can’t wait to try these titles. It’s nice to see reviews on the series from a person who was alive and experienced the originals as they happened.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Thanks man! Glad you like em! It does take a lot of love and a lot of work to keep these videos going, but when RE fans get a kick out of them, it's all worth it.

[@DocDevious23]

Jared, you saucy boy. I swear, by the end of this retrospective, you will never wanna play another lightgun shooter for the rest of your days. Keep up the good work! Lovin the retrospective!

[@AvalancheReviews]

YOU"RE SAUCY! Thanks man

[@Georgethefatman]

Ok I think I have enough time to watch this before work! This is more important

[@Georgethefatman]

Wait. Why am I seeing comments dated back 2 weeks? I feel I'm missing something?

[@Armageddon-yt3so]

Patreon probably

[@AvalancheReviews]

Yeah, I have a few video qued up at the moment, so I can keep a schedule. Patreon supporters get links to the videos, whenever I finish them.

[@Georgethefatman]

Avalanche Reviews fair enough!

[@fireflocs]

There's nothing suboptimal about using a wiimote to aim in a rail shooter. That controller and that genre are _tailor made_ for each other. Point at thing you want to shoot, shoot until it dies. Could not be simpler or more intuitive. That's why the best House of the Dead games are all Wii, and why the two RE Chronicles games rule. Plus, hey, RE is actually kind of scary when you're in first person and can't run away from the enemies. Darkside is definitely superior though. I love these kinds of games, and the only reason I *ever* go back to UC is to play Ada's scenario Death's Door. That level rules.

[@AvalancheReviews]

The sub optimal part wasn't exactly the idea of using the wiimote to point and shoot. It was the crappy way that the controller itself tracked motion, and on top of that, the lag or compensation present in this game specifically. The wii was pretty infamous for pioneering IR LED motion tracking, but not exactly handling it as well as they could have.

[@sanvalentine23]

I am not ashamed to admit that I watched your entire channel in one day!

[@AvalancheReviews]

Whoah! I'm not ashamed to say thank you!!

[@dragonkyn20]

I can't wait for the Darkside Chronicles review. One of my favorite moments is during the RE2 scenario in the lab. They remade the escape music and it sounds even better than before.

[@AvalancheReviews]

They had a couple of really good rerecordings of classic songs on that ost. They really were great sounding. P.S I definitely put that lab escape song in the darkside review. Great minds think alike.

[@dragonkyn20]

Awesome! I'll be looking forward to that when your video drops!

[@AnAverageGoblin]

but oh dang that Jill cutscene looked like a cruddy fan animation

[@darknessscythe1]

The slow movement and momentum to the reticle that you call frustrating was meant to emulate old fashioned light gun games in arcade cabinets. For those of us who liked those this game was great.

[@aliciafraser1835]

The Resident Evil 3 areas were ported in from the Raccoon City Stages in Outbreak. But it seems someone else mentioned that. I'm actually surprised you mentioned the side stories, but said nothing about the unique story mission where Chris and Jill attack an Umbrella base and fight Taylos (Was that the name? Can't remember)

[@AvalancheReviews]

I did mention that, but I didn't really like it that much, so I only really gave it a quick mention.

[@darknessscythe1]

Fun Fact: The Wii version of Umbrella Chronicles was heavily marketed alongside the Wii Zapper Wii peripheral. Even the commercials for the game typically always included the Wii Zapper in them. There were even special Resident Evil zappers released for the game. (Thought it was worth mentioning since you didn't mention it in the video)

[@PaulGirdlestone]

I actually played through this with my wife years back. It was really fun.

[@itsadavisnicholas6191]

Just found your channel and I’ve injoyed your review. Thanks for doing this. I’ve been collecting every resident evil from good to bad. Now I know save this one for the last ones.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Well, it's good to help a fellow collector. Thanks man!!

[@WarbucksGaming]

I love your retrospective on all things Resident Evil keep them coming man

[@AvalancheReviews]

Thank you man!!

[@WarbucksGaming]

Avalanche Reviews No problem man and thank you for the videos

[@sethlong9118]

In Resident Evil Outbreak File 2, you will be in the police station in a later scenario and be able to go to the garage. Once you reach it there's a crate you can push out of the way on the far left wall, that reveals a hole that leads straight to the underground stairway outside of the police station front entrance. I enjoyed seeing that they Incorporated that into their ham-handed remake of Resident Evil 3's storyline

[@AvalancheReviews]

Holy shit! That would have been great to know when I was getting footage. I ended running out of time while getting wood for the barricade, and had to fight off all those zombies.

[@staunchy7143]

Despite this game being... well... you know. It holds a very special place in my heart as the first Video Game I ever Played! Which not only began my spiral into the Resident Evil series but into gaming itself. So I owe a Special thanks to this game.

[@RtardD2]

Cero doesnt allow for decapitations? That doesnt bode well for the upcoming Resident Evil 2 remake then- the shotguns going to be completely neutered.

[@sethlong9118]

Oh! I just realized, the completely new environment you're talking about for Resident Evil 3. Is actually most of the entire first campaign of outbreak, if you keep your eyes peeled you can see the sign for the bar that you start the game in and you will also be taken automatically through a back alley that the survivors use to escape the undead!

[@AvalancheReviews]

yep, you're right. At the time, it had been 10+ years since I had played Outbreak. Looking back, I should have definitely seen it.

[@The_specialistMMA]

This was my first and favourite resident evil game I loved the 0 campaign

[@KageNoTenshi]

1:40 ya completely true and basically sums up the chronicles series

[@brainc0la-_-]

I really wish there were more rail shooters these days. Always a fun time whenever you don't have to worry about quarters.

[@tHeWasTeDYouTh]

great review, love how you love RE the same way I do !!!

[@iamdefish3315]

These reviews comfort my soul

[@AvalancheReviews]

well that's nice as hell!!

[@codyc4584]

6:34 Love the font you used, very good use of aesthetic.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Thanks! Here's a fun story: That's not even technically a font. I litterally cut out each letter, and made them PNGs. Had to place each individual one, since I couldn't find a good font file.

[@JobenJonzalez]

Just picked up the Hd version on ps3 this weekend, gonna play through it with my wife

[@philips.5563]

At the core of the interface problem in this game is the idea that one must simulate a real object through the interface. That might make sense with a mouse, but the wiimote already has mass. You see VR games struggle with this to this day.

[@abymondesir23]

I'm a huge rail shooter fan especially games like virtue cop & house of the dead!! So I'm hyped to pic this up + I love re series

[@AvalancheReviews]

It definitely stands in league with those games in my opinion. I think you'll like it.

[@AllanSanches]

I like this game for its co-op experience, but I agree with the negatives you just pointed out, and you're really going thru ALL games of the franchise, this is pretty cool keep it up

[@AvalancheReviews]

Thanks!

[@JCFJ007]

I liked the chronicles series for the lore part, It really helped me learn a lot from the series

[@CandidaRosa889]

Man you're really delaying having to touch re7

[@AvalancheReviews]

HAA! I finished it last week, and done writing a script, so you'll get it sooner than you think.

[@Cyraxxxxxxxsssstylus]

Is the jab at 7 because you think it sucks because its more of RE game than any of the past titles in the last 16 years remaster don't count since they were originally out in 2002.

[@ineedsleep4636]

Thanks for making these videos.

[@AvalancheReviews]

My pleasure!

[@greedkingcobalt200]

8:46 is the bar from the opening level of RE outbreak

[@leeeroyjenkins555]

Garbage? Damn, so offensive

[@Lord_Deimos]

Can't wait for your thoughts on the Revelations and the Outbreak games.

[@VisserZer0]

He's done reviews of both Revelations titles already.

[@Xehanort10]

3:12 The fall of Umbrella should have gotten its own full 3rd person game not been one scenario in a rail shooter.

[@AlexanderArts]

I probably would never replay this, but I thought the game was a ton of fun when it came out, and playing it with a friend was great.

[@AvalancheReviews]

I imagine I would have had more fun playing co-op too.

[@MCG55555]

It is. I managed to play an RE 'game' with some family by introducing them to this. They got hooked real quickly. They're not exactly video game players so they could do with basic fun.

[@thomaswelbourn55]

I enjoy these Chronicles games, they're a good bit of fun especially in co-op, it's a shame you apparently have to unlock co-op for the unlockable missions. They're really good if you don't have time to play the originals.

[@batmangovno]

Great review! Gotta mention though that both Umbrella and Darkside Chronicles are on PSN in English and with all blood and gore, it's the easiest and best way to play these games.

[@Spiegelgeist]

What is the song from like 8:15 to 12:05 ? That safe room remix you spoke of? Also, another great video! :)

[@AvalancheReviews]

Thanks! That was one of the original songs recorded for the game. It played during the results screen if I remember correctly.

[@Spiegelgeist]

It seems to be either some form of the song "Initial R" or more likely "Salute", but I can't tell for sure. It's very chill compared to the rest of the game's soundtrack.

[@residentgrigo4701]

Some of the waggling and the QTEs were a mess at times but the actual tracking of the Wiimote was good. As good as the good rail shooters on the Wii that is. I played the game with someone who never played such games. He immediately got it and nailed his shots pretty well too. I am also sure that the mediocre Nemesis "adaptation" ended up reusing big chunks of Outbreak level portions. Apple Inn, J's Bar, the car park. Etc. There are even unused Outbreak assets in the code of UC that this game doesn´t feature either. Thank god that DC got a higher budget. UC has the better scenarios but polish is still king. Still, i liked both games and would like to see this Gun Survivor reboot to continue in VR.

[@UnicornStorm]

I also had a pretty good headshot rate with this game on the wii. I also never heard anyone complain about motion controls in a rail shooter. Those complains are mostly leveled at waggling the wiimote around, not aiming a gun.... Though I had some problems with the QTEs, because I couldn't clearly recognize the symbols that fast.

[@AvalancheReviews]

I don't know there is definitely a chance it's just me, but after playing darkside chronicles, I don't think it is. That game doesn't have the weird acceleration on the pointer, and it plays sooooo much better because of it. I think it may have less slowdown as well, which could help.

[@TheMarky60]

If you know what you're getting into you won't be disappointed. This is just a fan service fun little romp.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Yeah, that's true. I wasn't necessarily appalled by the game, it was just kind of meh.

[@Colonel2005]

I smoked a lot of weed at the time of this games release and this was a favorite of mine to sit with my buddy smoke and play a relatively simple game with a story I loved. Really regret trading this game in might go buy it again and maybe grab the 2nd one while I'm at it never played it

[@albinoshark232]

Great review. Your take on the movement controls didn’t really hit, but everything else was solid!

[@THEBURNZINATOR]

Should just call it REtrospective

[@joshuaweston6531]

I really like the Umbrella Chronicles, though I do know what you're talking about with the aiming controls. It's a fun rail shooter nonetheless. I also love what they did with Wesker and Lisa Trevor! As for the Wii's motion controls, I'm pretty sure it depends on the game. Metroid Prime 3 and Trilogy played perfectly!

[@GAMONSKI4EVER]

wow you are killing these reviews, good work as always.. I'm glad my suspicions about the wii lag was confirmed! The game just never felt right... props

[@AvalancheReviews]

Thanks!!! When I felt it, I had to get technical and figure it out. Now the world finally knows! HAAA

[@GAMONSKI4EVER]

# exposed, lol

[@lebonk8081]

Thank you for this! I loved these 2 games!

[@AvalancheReviews]

You're very welcome

[@lebonk8081]

Avalanche Reviews I found darside chronicles to be easier, this git hard as hell, even on easy mode

[@TripleRp]

The only noticeable compliment is that the creep factor felt elevated a bit because of the first person perspective when confronted by some enemies. I was mainly interested because it is Resident Evil. Umbrella Chronicles is really nothing special to me. Not bad, I just had some higher expectations. The additional scenes to the story were alright.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Yeah that's about where I line up with it.

[@zencyn4682]

Ok, I have to ask. How do you hold you're wiimote when aiming? And how are you aiming? Are you focusing on your wiimote or are you focusing on the cursor? Also what kind of TV are you playing on? When I played, it was on an old standard 30", I focused on the cursor when aiming and I shot from the hip (holding controller against my hip to steady aim), Nunchuck to use the knife and it was very responsive, accurate and easy to control, even with the insane camera of Darkside Chronicles.

[@AvalancheReviews]

I rest my elbow on the side of my knee, while I'm sitting with my legs crossed. I think the issue is specifically with this games though, since I was able to play darkside chronicles perfectly.

[@RewindMike]

LOLOLOL @9:07 that inn is from resident evil outbreak!!!

[@AvalancheReviews]

Don't come on here and game shame me! Yeah, that makes sense though. I haven't played either Outbreak game since I was 20.

[@Mylesr01]

Just picked this up along with Darkside Chronicles and the RE Blaster Wii gun, I'm so excited!

[@AvalancheReviews]

They're both a pretty good time, but I'd say dark side is the most fun

[@Mylesr01]

@@AvalancheReviews was there any type of couch co-op?

[@AvalancheReviews]

Yep, at least for Umbrella. Can't really remember if Darkside has it, but I would wager it does.

[@Mylesr01]

@@AvalancheReviews well, there goes my weekend! Waited a couple hours in line at NYCC to play the resi 2 demo. Totally worth it, have you played it yet?

[@AvalancheReviews]

No, I'm not even watching footage of it. I kind of want to go in blind.

[@SpartanG062]

Happy Bravo Team goes missing day!

[@AvalancheReviews]

And to you!

[@SteveKi]

Hmmm, develop a game for normie Wii players that's not complicated, yet port over RE4 and make the Wii Edition in 2007, the prior year (which was one of the best ports). Classic Mid-aughts Capcom doublespeak trash. They wanted to make this game this way It was the quickest way to money.

[@AnAverageGoblin]

@bigevilworldwide1 if only there was some sort of.. controller that could plug into the bottom of the remote, or maybe some sort of adapter built into the wii that allowed you to use a good controller.. Hey shitlips. you could use a Classic Controller or a Gamecube controller to play the fucking Wii version.

[@beapa121]

i love the RE retrospective series

[@AvalancheReviews]

Glad you like the series!

[@morganraine9208]

At that 9:50 mark where you talk about where they pulled RE3 map from, it looks ALOT like the latter half of the Resident Evil Outbreak game's first chapter. Where you escape with that cop and have to open the oil tanker and set the zombie on fire, then jump into the river nearby.

[@AvalancheReviews]

According to the comment section, that's exactly where a portion of it is from

[@UmbrellaCorpTeam]

@Jared 😉 you missed annotations as end. Really good episode cant wait to see your thoughts on the outbrake games & 7.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Oh damn! Thanks for looking out! Got em all set now.

[@shayoko6]

yeah...rail shooters as you call them are not something i played many of. the most memorable of them for me was the one they did in one of the *Dead space* games. it was awesome (and a slap in the face) seeing HQ images from REO when they refused to make file 3! i'd also be satisfied with a HD port to modern systems.

[@literarygames253]

I honestly enjoyed both this and Darkside. It's not like the games didn't have their extremely frustrating parts, but Darksiders is definitely the stronger title, since not only could you actually carry herbs, but there weren't 3 different variants of each weapon type, allowing you to focus on upgrading one, not to mention how there aren't 3 each with their own ammo type.

[@AvalancheReviews]

I agree. Darkside was the most fun.

[@uncledrepoc]

Umbrella chronicles was my first resident evil and I still love it and even on Wll I thought it was good

[@brunocar02]

Regarding the controls, PLEASE tell me you are playing in progressive scan mode, you have to turn it on manualy in the wii's options menu, interlaced has way too much input lag for motion controls

[@AvalancheReviews]

What do i look like? A guy who plays games in interlaced, when another option is available!?!? Ha! Yeah, I did have progressive scan turned on. I guess it depends on the tv though. I have a sony that has really good deinterlacing, and adds no perceptable lag, but my samsung is terrible with it.

[@brunocar02]

im actually using an older samsung LCD model, the deinterlacing is aweful and it cant handle 240p (displays it as 480i) the input lag added is tremendous, but as soon as i enable progressive scan the wiimote pointer suddenly becomes pin point accurate.btw, the "inherent lag" you mentioned is actually a method to make it easier to aim for people with shaky hands, its really hard to explain how it works but various wii games do it

[@darknessscythe1]

I would disagree about the Wesker parts being skippable. This game also gave us the first cutscene that visually retconned Wesker's death rather than just say, oh yeah he didn't die.

[@darknessscythe1]

Unless of course I just missed the RE remake they ripped that cutscene of Wesker injecting himself with his custom variant of the T-Virus with. Which is entirely popular.

[@aimieelemieux9932]

Yea, i didn't really care for *Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles* but it still holds a *very small* special place in my heart. Trust, the Sequel *Resident Evil Darkiside Chronicles* is WAY better! Although, it's a bit on the difficult side- I just hope *YOU* enjoy it as much as my brother & me do!

[@mmamackela284]

As a man who grew up with Point Blank games, regularly finished arcade shooters with just one coin, I can tell you that the Wiimote gives you a shit ton of leeway. It even gives us a crosshair, I just can't understand people who get less than 80% headshots, it's a bit harder in Chronicles 2 though.

[@juju-tk2kz]

I killed this game on the wii but I'm a big rail shooter fan. If you regularly play shooting games at arcades you often have to compensate for slightly off target shots or latency so any of that, which wasnt super noticeable, didnt bug me. Also, when the zombies rear back to hit you, you can knock them back with a well timed knife swipe without taking damage.

[@austinskywalker92]

This RE game in particular was pretty much the gateway for me to the original series. RE 4 was the first game in the series I played, so I was curious as to how this all began. True, it was an abridged version, but I still enjoyed it, along with all the extra stuff. Can't wait to see the darkside chronicles next, that's my favorite out of the two games. Also, HAH! I was right on my wild guess! Hell yeah!

[@AvalancheReviews]

Well, if it got some people into the wider series, it can't all be bad. As long as people are playing the original games, I'm happy. Did you guess I would put this out next? Good call

[@dazzlinggleams]

also, the environments that jill and carlos are traversing in their scenario are from outbreak! the apple inn and the streets are, at least. nice tie in

[@TheDoctorProfessor]

With how much I like rail shooters I'm surprised I never gave either of the Chronicles games a shot. Maybe one day. Sidenote, the internet's opinion of the Wii's motion controls (like most of its opinions) lacks nuance. The issue doesn't seem to be the hardware, it's the games. Super Mario Galaxy, Sin and Punishment: Star Successor, and The House of the Dead all work wonderfully on the console. Other games, ike Silent Hill: Shattered Memories (which I loved despite its flaws) have sections that work and others that just don't. And some games just plain don't work. My guess would be that with how many rushed games and shovel Ware the wii got , many devs didn't put much effort into getting the motion controls right. They can and do work if the dev team actually tried.

[@AvalancheReviews]

You may have a point there. There are games that used motions controls perfectly, so I may just have an issue with some developers, and not the console.

[@ArcNeoMasato]

The issue this game has is very much the "smoothing" they added to the pointer. Most pointer based games on the Wii were actually amazingly accurate if you dialed in your sensitivity. Though I'm also known for dying on the hill of "actually calibrate your stuff", cause I've literally watched people botch their Wii/WiiMotionPlus/etc calibrations, then start complaining that it doesn't work, and it's like.... duh, you literally just broke it before you started playing. (or my personal favorite, playing Wii Pointer games in a room with multiple, large mirrors on the walls. Seriously, don't do that)