Response to Shadiversity Nunchucks are STUPID (twice), they deserve some credit

[@splork8016]

Ok it's on. Shad with a stick Vs dojo with nunchaku. First to the hospital loses.

[@dylsnake2]

You just want blood....

[@giw_jones]

@@dylsnake2 ye

[@splork8016]

@@dylsnake2 AND broken bones

[@silverbearmacphearson9137]

I just suggested he organize a demonstration against canne de combat. Another combat sport with wind up rules before the attack.

[@Eddyhartz]

To make it fair I suppose he has to use a foam stick. That way the fight can go on for several days (=

[@RedcoatT]

While in the hands of an expert they might have some use, for the rest of us we are better off with a stick.

[@hermitcard4494]

Exactly. And how many years of experience and training is required to properly use the nunchs without hitting yourself. I choose the stick, easier to control and almost impossible to hit myself.

[@echelon2k8]

@@hermitcard4494 You don't need years of training, you just need to be taught how to properly use them. None of this playground/backyard teach yourself crap.

[@bryanjackson8917]

And then when the stick breaks or is broken when it is stuck by your opponents weapon, you'll have two shorter sticks which you can then join together with a rope or chain creating...ready for it...nunchucks! Of course, that's only if you survive the encounter.

[@davidwallace5645]

An expert has made some poor decisions if they know how to fight with nunchucks but not with a stick. My point is, sure an expert will be able to hit someone with nunchucks. But there's no reason to pick one up over another weapon other than to show off. It's suboptimal.

[@echelon2k8]

@@davidwallace5645 If you're using nunchucks to show off, you're using them incorrectly.

[@turinturambar8622]

two little sticks silly -brought to you by big stick gang.

[@bryanjackson8917]

To tell you the truth, the gang to really be afraid of is the BIG BANG Gang.

[@4Curses]

@@bryanjackson8917 Nah, the Big Bang Gang are all nerds. The name is misleading

[@Damienx247]

Don't tell that to the Escrimadors.

[@elisecunliffe1123]

if the advantage of the nunchaku is the fact it can be folded and hidden, which would be harder with a long stick, that makes perfect sense when the weapon was used and the context of Okinowa, but in the modern day? An extendable baton would have the same range, greater potential power, and less risk to your own person.

[@bismarkvillanueva8025]

If you bring a big balisong you could inflict more damage

[@jkgf4671]

If we are talking about weapons that could be hidden then why not simply using daggers? They are A LOT more effective than sticks with rope and they can't harm user while using them.

[@elisecunliffe1123]

@@jkgf4671 I mean true but was thinking in terms of non lethal stuff, kind of a moot point either way.

[@jkgf4671]

@@elisecunliffe1123 blunt weapons can also be lethal. But if we are talking about blunt weapons then your fists are still better than those. It's better to put your time into hand to hand combat than these.

[@slydoorkeeper4783]

I mean, a cane or walking stick. Then you can hide that stick in plain sight.

[@u06jo3vmp]

Yeah it's of course a "usable" weapon, Shad also said it's better than nothing. But Shad also said it's worse than a stick of the same total length, or even two small sticks half of that, and I agree with him

[@HAYAOLEONE]

And I disagree. Where are we now?.. Can you catch or hold or 'strangle'/squeeze with a stick? No you can't. Can you transport a stick as easily? No you can't. etc

[@bigmanbarry2299]

@@HAYAOLEONE a stick is a far better than nunchucks lmao.

[@primeemperor9196]

@@HAYAOLEONE 1) You also can't strangle or hold with nunchucku very easily. You're more likely to receive a bloody nose than to get a good hold on your enemy. 2) You are more likely to hurt yourself with a nunchuck than a stick, because it bounces back and hits you in the forearm, hand, etc, even if you only try to hit with the tip, which you'll be lucky to do, since your opponent will try and close the distance. 3) Two shorter sticks tucked in on either side of your pants and barely sticking out is prety damn concealed and offers way more offensive and defensive advantages. 4) Even if you don't carry a stick on you, it's easy enough to find one or something that will do the same or similar. Where are we now?

[@LOWTlERWULF]

@@HAYAOLEONE you can strangle with a stick, even with a chain or a yoyo if the string is strong enough

[@HAYAOLEONE]

@@primeemperor9196 1. life is not easy. tons of techniques with 'batons' are impossible to apply. 'catching and holding the head' is not that difficult. who said we're only talking about 1on1 'fights' BTW?.. Are all weapons duel weapons?.. 2. you're speaking to yourself 3. No lol Lemme guess.. you think 'fighting' with one/two sticks involves 'slashing' with angle1 and angle2 'strikes'? lol A short stick is worthless unless you're hitting a standing fragile skinny woman.. 4.ok now you're full of it you're still a moron

[@12packadayhabit]

"I'm no expert ....Ive only used them for 12yrs".... that’s humility at it’s finest.

[@unusveritas4122]

Or that shows that the weapon fucking sucks, because you need to train the hell out of you to handle.

[@MattChez]

@@unusveritas4122 Or it could be making the point that some fat bloke with no experience isn't in any way a valid judge.

[@unusveritas4122]

@@MattChez Then we are lucky that shad isn't just some fat bloke with no experience.

[@backgroundcharacter1071]

@@MattChez did you even watch it bruh? Shad can more than handle the nunchucks

[@MattChez]

@@backgroundcharacter1071 He really can't. he's barely at a beginner level. Literally anyone experienced with them would tell you the same thing.

[@DavidReynolds]

You agree with almost all his criticisms and you demonstrate with safety nunchucks without an actual target. Shad's main point was the danger to yourself, which you did nothing to really address, and certainly nothing to demonstrate.

[@jeffwells641]

Except he did demonstrate on a target - he doesn't several minutes demonstrating how to strike with control. The core difference between nunchucks and a stick is the nunchucks are much lower force. You're looking to confuse and then make a difficult to block strike in a vulnerable spot. Nunchucks are weak hitting the torso, for example, but if you hit someone in the temple you could easily knock them out. And you're much more likely to tag the head with nunchucks than a long stick due to their confusing and flexible nature. I think most important thing to remember is these weapons would have been used by farmers, who used a similar tool for threshing grain day in and day out. It would be a very natural weapon to use for someone like that, and they would know all the ins and outs of striking with them just by virtue of their day job.

[@BelleDividends]

Consider that he shows that the nunchaku isn't for slamming through, which you do with a lot of weapons but creates all the problems you saw in Shad's video. If you halt your hand right before striking, halt it at the height of the opponent instead of striking through, the nunchaku doesn't bounce back as much and you do get the "extra swinging speed" making the strike hit harder.

[@zaodedong9935]

@@jeffwells641 you can use a staff just as easily to confuse the opponent as to where the strike will land. Also also the staff is effective striking the body, also legs, arms, and hands. Closing the distance would be extremely difficult against an opponent wielding a staff.

[@heeanoren6365]

@@jeffwells641 Good luck hitting the temple of the nerd you are trying to steal lunch money from if he flinches even slightly backward with his head. Now you don't have lunch money and the Fortnite playing fucker isn't crying... Thanks for nothing, Jeff.

[@vladimirgertner3960]

@@heeanoren6365 If they flinch backwards, that means that they extended the range between us, thus making nunchucks more effective, not less, because you get to try again and again. Hard2Hurt tested nunchucks on a ballistic dummy and he proved that you can shatter orbital bones with nunchucks. He didn't hit himself a single time.

[@PsyloSatan]

Extremely effective weapon for when you are your own worst enemy.

[@daddywhetz]

But, aren't we all?

[@galadballcrusher8182]

still though as shad said any stick is literally better and if they are 2 sticks like them Philipino ones still does way more

[@vladimirgertner3960]

@@galadballcrusher8182 sticks aren't concealable tho. Something to think about. If you walk around with a hanbo, you will be getting weird looks and will get in trouble with security, a lot. Nunchucks are easily concealable. They can fit in a backpack or you can use telescopic ones that with in your pocket and can still do damage. So, there is always an argument for any form factor.

[@jameshamaker9321]

@@vladimirgertner3960 ... not the case, if your stick is a thick one and looks like it has a door knob one end. Also it helps, if it's better than bacon.

[@vladimirgertner3960]

@@jameshamaker9321 I mean, if you want to walk around looking like a weeb with a very cringy quazy "walking" stick and a fedora, be my guest. But at that point your weapon of "self-defense" is just inviting people to come and bully you.

[@celebral_pelosi]

So for short: nunchuks aren't bad or not as good as a basic stick because if you're trained with them they're better than someone with a stick who has no training. Wtf man. This happens when you already invested too much in your grift so you just keep going with it.

[@BL00DBALLAD]

Shads point was to say that not just anyone can Pick up and use these without hurting themselves. Bruce Lee was the main advocate for Nunchuckus which is mainly why most people today know and love these weapons. You need training, and experience to use these to make them effective in self defense without hurting yourself.

[@theannoyedlink5153]

I'd also say that a nunchuck fighter with enough training to not hurt themselves fighting an equally trained stick fighter (or sword fighter) armed with an equal length stick would struggle to even keep up, the stick has more control, can hit as long as the opponent is close enough regardless of how close they are, even some sword techniques applied to stick enable you to hit full force in almost grappling distance, and the stick can thrust, so being equal length the stick has the reach advantage... So yeah, while I agree with this video that a trained nunchuck fighter can make the weapon work, that doesn't mean the weapon is good, and I'm sure equally trained opponents with different weapons would destroy the one with nunchucks

[@multi-mason]

BS. actually good fighters can use these well enough, even having never used them before. Shad is just a idiot. Hint: Chucks are not ideal weapons for idiots. Anyone who is specifically trained in these and nothing else, is not actually a good fighter. The good fighter would use the chucks only until they had control of the spear, sword, or both.

[@tyronekim3506]

@@theannoyedlink5153 Right. Your words are spot on. Thrusting with a stick has reach and can be very effective without using much force. Be safe and in good health.

[@bryanjackson8917]

I carry a pair of small wooden nunchucks in my backpack and, at times, in my back pocket when I anticipate I might need them, for example, walking down a dark street late at night. (Obviously I don't live in a state where nunchucks are forbidden to be carried around in public.) FWIW, you don't have to be a skilled martial artist to learn how to use nunchucks in self defense. A few basic moves are all that is needed. (As Yoda might say, "The elements of shock and surprise are strong with this one".) Are there superior weapons in the martial arts? Obviously. Are there non-lethal weapons that can be so easily carried around and hidden on your person but available for use in a split second? None that I can think of. Note: The fact that nunchucks (a non-lethal weapon) are banned in some states should give some indication as to their true effectiveness in the right hands. But like I said, it actually doesn't take a lot of training to learn quite a few effective self-defense moves with nunchucks. Note: I will have my nunchucks at my ready disposal and smack you in the head with lightening speed several times while you look around for your silly sticks or broom handle.

[@tyronekim3506]

@@bryanjackson8917 Your words make a lot of sense. I believe many places ban nunchucks because it is a relatively new weapon and there isn't much resistance to the ban. By the way, some people carry canes for protection. Learning to use a cane for self defense has a shorter learning curve than learning to use nunchucks. Knives and swords have been around for thousands of years and guns have been around for hundreds of years and the Constitution prohibits banning gun ownership. Be safe and in good health.

[@czarus_the_sniper9924]

After 12 - 13 years, 4 - 5 days week training with any other weapon will provide way more benefit than the nunchucks. As you talk about inexperienced users with sticks/swords/whatever, the same must be applied to nunchucks. After 12 - 13 with nunchucks you still do miss some grips and fail strikes with the thing ricocheting where it wants. If one practiced a stick/staff half of this time, I am pretty sure it would be more efficient. Psycholgical aspect is there of course, but so is of other weapons - when you pull out a balisong (butterfly knife) and start playing with it, it may be confusing, is it effective tho? Additionally, if you face a drugged up or an insane person, this aspect fails, for they know no fear. Swords (depending on the type) are brutally efficient weapons in extreme close quarters. I train a longsword, the crossguard and pommel are no joke, half-swording is a thing and grappling is a part of sword fighting as well.

[@slydoorkeeper4783]

Yeah, that's one thing some people don't seem to take in mind. Oh you spend this long to learn how to use this weapon because of its high skill level? Well I'm capable of achieving that level of mastery in a quarter of the time. And what if I spend as much time as you? I'll probably be far better than you. But because I'm only needing a fraction of the time than you, I can do just about anything else.

[@dzejrid]

"the crossguard and pommel are no joke" But do you end your opponents rightly?

[@kellykeegan2608]

Well said! Bruce Lee with nunchucks vs Bruce Lee with a knife, I'm betting all my money on the knife.

[@twoheadedchicken7904]

Butterfly knifes are easily hidden that's why there so effective there almost as easy to hide as brass knuckles

[@counterstrike89]

@@kellykeegan2608 Dan Inosanto who introduced the nunchucks to Bruce Lee, said the chucks are advantageous over the knife, but he thought the stick was better.

[@mohawkmeteor7189]

I think the argument of skill is just an inaccurate way to compare weapons. The main point you seem to make is that the nunchuku can be useful and dangerous in trained hands. But each weapon has trained combatants. If you put people of equal skill with their respective weapons the nunchucks struggle to keep up. Right now it is literally a question of does it match up to the most basic of all weapons, a stick. It struggles to do that. Skilled combatants aren't easily distracted by the 'confusion' and they can maneuver equally. It is hardly more deadly than any other weapon while also requiring more investment to even make it functional enough to compare. Was shadiversity harsh on them for calling them garbage? Yeah. With enough practice and skill you can make it work. Does that make it a good weapon? No. In jiu jitsu the most scary moves I had used on me by experts were using the jacket against me. Literally choke me with my own clothing. Skilled people can make anything work, doesn't mean my clothes are practical weapons. You can use a sturdy jacket to catch weapons and disarm them if you are skilled enough. It says more about the warrior than the weapon.

[@IamSpacedad]

Here's what's going to happen if someone of equal training with a sword or a spear fights fights vs a nunchukas master: The nunchukas master will get speared or slashed with the weapons providing almost no useful practical offense or defense against the sword or spear. A lot of things in martial technology just come down to the reality of their practical application. Not just for simplicity of use but for their overall function. It doesn't matter how much 'confusion' you give someone if they can just slash across your whole body or stab you while keeping distance.

[@multi-mason]

Actually it is just a stupid question. Generally, in fair fight, the better fighter will win, regardless of which weapons they have. For someone with no talent or training, a gun would probably be the best weapon, except they might shoot themselves. If you have no talent or ability to fight, a stick won't help you.

[@ansahs]

Good point about ju jitsu, your clothing isn't a "weapon" but can be used to defeat you.

[@scneon]

@@multi-mason I don't know what do you mean by "fair fight" but technology made a major impact in battles and duels along history, and weapons were made accordingly to this. A mace-like weapon is more effective against metal armor than a slashing weapon, for example.

[@multi-mason]

@@scneon In real life, an actually good fighter will make the most out of whatever is in their hands. That may mean using it only for as long as it takes to get a different weapon. Large scale battles today involve modern conventional firearms, so it's a moot point. "Duels," only happen under highly controlled circumstances these days, unless you are suggesting that street fights are duels, in which case your point doesn't apply. In real self defense, the better fighter will take your stick, nunchucks, knife, or whatever, and use it against you. Seen it happen half a dozen times.

[@rkb3176]

Stick: aim, swing, hit Nunchucks: swing left right with a pattern, hit, if you miss do it again, swing and swing again

[@Axis1337]

His main point was that in the hands of the majority of people, they are worse off than a stick. His point is very correct. He even mentioned that in the hands of a trained person, they can be USEFUL but to train your whole life to make a weapon barely as effective as something an average person can use better, that's NOT a good weapon.

[@vksasdgaming9472]

His main point is that he is garbage with them and as such they must be garbage as he certainly can't be garbage with any weapon.

[@drew6145]

Fun video and they are cool but im still on Shad's side of things. I think its clear how other weapons, specifically a stick are more intuitive. And on a "no training"/accessibility point of view clear which would be used more effectively. Any weapon likely wins in a certain condition. But the best weapon is one less conditional/situational. Similarly training makes a huge difference, but the weapon easier to learn is probably better. As well as likely easier to still use when a situation demands it

[@berendharmsen]

I think the 'confusing weapon' argument is the only one that sort of makes sense. I genuinely think you have an edge when you pull out those things and start waving them around because your opponent will be temporarily defenseless because he'll be laughing his ass off. A well-trained fighter might make use of that confusion. It's closer to juggling than a fighting technique and this video seems to agree with this.

[@bryanjackson8917]

What I would really like to see is nunchakus allowed in MMA matches. That would be the ultimate test.

[@4Curses]

@@bryanjackson8917 The real question is, as an MMA fighter, would you even want to use Nunchucks? Their hands are probably deadlier when empty.

[@rivera147]

@@4Curses I mean, that's precisely why he said it would be the ultimate test

[@benkalem]

@@bryanjackson8917 I think what would happen is tactics involving tanking hits to get into grappling. A fighter assumes they're gonna get hit, so they deal with it, and just move on.

[@multi-mason]

Shads test was all about stopping power. In fact chucks can generate incredible power, they don't have a lot of stopping power, but they don't necessarily need to.

[@BelleDividends]

Thank you for this refining of the quality of the Nunchaku. It's clear the Nunchuk has some validity. Shad however examines weapon martial arts and compared with other weapons, I'll take my chances with most other weapons. I'd rather hold a sword straight before me, pointing towards my opponent rather than be having a nunchuck in my hands.

[@vksasdgaming9472]

Sword is king of hand-to-hand weapons. Everybody knows that.

[@ZamWeazle]

@@vksasdgaming9472 Actually it's the spear!

[@vksasdgaming9472]

@@ZamWeazle Spear is effective, but in my view sword trumps it in sheer versatility. This explanation is based on European sword with straight, double-edged blade with sharp tip, pommel and cross-shaped handguard. In sword every part can be used as striking surface and you can use from any range. Spear has only one really dangerous part (tip) you need to be wary of and once you have gotten past it (like deflecting with shield) there is not much to be worried about it. No risk of getting smacked with handguard to your face or edge being used to to cut you up-close. Spear is the worker of weapons being numerous and simple, but swords are few and flexible. Very crude comparison. Both have merits.

[@tjl4688]

@@vksasdgaming9472 Sword vs spear tends to be won by the spear. Unless the sword is paired with a shield.

[@vksasdgaming9472]

@@tjl4688 So many variables that in practical sense it is impossible to say which is better. Both have traits which makes them clearly superior.

[@RealFolkFashionandHealth]

Okay, I'm still on Shad's side. First of all: You yourself show that it is mostly a flashy weapon. Second: As Shad points out. The force is halved in the nunchuks as there is far less mass and you are not able to put nearly as much force behind it. Third: In your point about defense and how much of the nunchuk can actually be used you fail to realize that the nunchuk's weakness is in the fact that the cord can't do any damage where as the full length of a sword or stick can. Fourthly: You use the nunchuks fairly briefly in the combat techniques you show. Even the showy moves are brief. I actually did see you hit yourself though when you weren't intending to. I mean it wouldn't be that hard to hide since you're wielding a toy. Fifth: No the nunchuk would do basically nothing with no follow through. Take it from someone who has been hit multiple times. The ones that do the most damage are the ones with follow through. Sixth: Yes there is a possibility of you hitting yourself with your sword. If you're blind or toddler levels of stupid. A sword is one solid piece and is extremely easy to control. A nunchuk on the other hand is flying through the air, you do not have full control over it (despite your claims) and it can be very unpredictable. Seventhly: As Shad points out it is extremely difficult to get that small cord around your opponent's weapon or limb. And as again pointed out by Shad. You may take out one of your opponent's limbs or weapons but they still have their other arm whereas you just sacrificed both of yours. Eighthly: Shad addresses the idea of multiple strikes and shows that yes you can do multiple strikes just as quickly with a stick or sword as you could with nunchuks. That is all. Have a nice day.

[@dojodendrijver9977]

Thank you for your long answer! Yes the nunchaku is a flashy weapon. I agree to that. Chinese swords is flashy, triple nunchaku is flashy and speed archery is mostly displayed as flashy ant not necessarily practical. Doesn't mean it has no use as a weapon. Could you send me the time stamp where I hit myself? Can remember is I did, i actually don't care if I did I'm just curious. And I don't know where you're from, I would like to invite you to a nunchaku tournament. There you can experience this "toy". People walk away blue en bruised after a full day of competition with it. Also I can demonstrate you the force i can put in the nunchaku without follow through better then now with sound. Believe me I have been hit by a nunchaku multiple times in 12 years. And for the cathing limbs part. I'm not a big fan of it either, but you still can do it. But maybe check out aikido and you might understand some use of cathing limbs and redirect body parts. Not to say the nunchaku is better at it than hands, but there is a use to in. Also i can still kick you. Sorry if I look a bit frustrated but calling a training weapon a toy annoys me a lot. Why not give everyone a sharp blade day one, or use a real gun always in krav maga to disarm? It all starts with training and then put it to use with the "real deal" of you like that. If I misread you and you meant something else with toy I'm sorry. All weapons require training. The nunchaku way more than other weapons to wield it good. Practitioners have passion in this weapon and think it's fun to do, that's why they invest all the hours in it. People still train with sticks, even that require practice. If you want a weapons with no training get a rifle with 100+ rounds chances are higher that you will hit someone with that than with a stick. We're in modern days, at least I live in a country where we don't take out weapons like these on the streets anymore. Most training we do with traditional weapons are for personal growth, fun, meditation, believing in yourself and general sports and fitness. Again sorry for the frustrated response. Shadiversity is right like I said in the video. I just made this video to show a nunchaku in a different light. A more positive one. I'm not stating that he is wrong. Thank you

[@davidwallace5645]

@@dojodendrijver9977 Just real quick, not all weapon REQUIRE training. Obviously it's gonna help, but I'm pretty sure anyone you ask is gonna understand how to swing a stick or throw a punch without putting themselves at risk of self-harm. And yeah, I get that you can hurt someone with nuchucks. And I respect the fact that you're only trying to give some credit to them, not fully validate them. But the point is, nunchucks are still suboptimal in practically every way. Just get something better if you can. Anyway, that turned out longer than I expected tbh, sorry about that lol.

[@DJ_StormP]

All I gotta say about the 7th point I notice no one talks about it. Freestyle nunchakus have a shorter cord more for tricking purposes approximately the length of your hand/fist If you look at Lee's example of Nunchakus in enter the dragon or fist of fury. The chain/chord is a little over the length of two hands. You can argue about it being movie props, but as a owner of a few pairs of Nunchakus I can back up my little statement. Otherwise yeah, no disagreements really

[@davidwallace5645]

@@DJ_StormP lol, im just imagining someone choking and beating the crap outta people with a jump-rope now

[@DJ_StormP]

Might as well make it a whip at that point lol

[@Grapelordz]

I’m just glad you call them Nunchaku over nunchucks. And despite my limited experience, a lot of the points you made are more in align with how I’ve practiced with the Nunchaku, in particular the flashy spinning moves mostly serving no purpose and having control of both parts of the Nunchaku. It’s a very interesting weapon that’s not technically part of my Okinawan style, but as a sort of project I’ve recently being practicing, it’s a unique experience compared to the Tuifa, Bo and Sai

[@vksasdgaming9472]

I think 'nunchuck' is strawman-weapon which always hits wielder, never causes damage to target and is not THE MIGHTY STICK. Nunchaku is evolved stick just like Persian is evolved Meowth. In that case Meowth is more popular having more character. Evolved is bad term as nunchaku works completely different to stick.

[@nessoak621]

Imagine living in a country where an object less dangerous than a regular stick is illegal.

[@henryyin2471]

I mean, California also banned nunchucks for some stupid reason

[@vksasdgaming9472]

Looking at kinetic energy they deliver guns are less dangerous than sticks are. Of course depends on gun, but even bare hands can outperform smaller guns like those chambered on .22LR.

[@joey9068]

Where I am from... guns are legal, flamethrowers are legal, crossbows are legal, bladed weapons are legal.. two sticks linked by a cord, ILLEGAL.

[@josephschubert6561]

Great video! It was cool to learn a different way of using nunchucks than what I've practiced. I hope to be able to watch a sparring match with nunchucks like that sometime.

[@aDivergentThinker]

Can you produce a video of any actual fights with chucks?

[@derekstevens96]

It sounds funny someone talking about nunchuks as a self defense weapon since we live in a world where guns exist

[@vksasdgaming9472]

It sounds funny someone talking about guns when nuclear weapon exists on this world. Rods of God don't exist just because nobody has bothered to make them.

[@tristanskywalker1998]

I'd still prefer a big stick in a fight.

[@LOWTlERWULF]

I would prefer a chain as a weapon, if you put a lock in one end you can make some very deadly damage

[@robogurke6773]

me as a person who trains shoalin kung fu and is trained with a Bo(182cm long stick), YES! XD

[@bryanjackson8917]

I carry a pair of small wooden nunchucks in my backpack and, at times, place them in my back pocket when I anticipate I might need them, for example, walking down a dark street late at night. (Obviously I don't live in a state where nunchucks are forbidden to be carried around in public.) FWIW, you don't have to be a skilled martial artist to learn how to use nunchucks in self defense. A few basic moves are all that is needed. (As Yoda might say, "The elements of shock and surprise are strong with this one".) Are there superior weapons in the martial arts? Obviously. Are there non-lethal weapons that can be so easily carried around and hidden on your person but available for use in a split second? None that I can think of. Note: The fact that nunchucks (a non-lethal weapon) are banned in some states should give some indication as to their true effectiveness in the right hands. But like I said, it actually doesn't take a lot of training to learn quite a few effective self-defense moves with nunchucks. Note: I will have my nunchucks at my ready disposal and smack you in the head with lightening speed several times while you look around for your silly sticks or broom handle.

[@Broockle]

@@LOWTlERWULF i think u just made a flail..... I'd still prefer stick, stick op

[@skepticalextraterrestrial2971]

I don't really see how a demonstration of you managing to successfully not hit yourself while beating your office chair is going to convince me of the validity of nunchaku as an effective weapon.

[@karl3097]

If you don't know how to use a weapon don't use it you dingus. There's a lot of cases of people chopping their own leg or hurting their feets with an axe because they didn't know how to use it. Does it make the axe a bad weapon? No, it means you don't know how to use them. Did you hurt yourself with nunchuks? You don't know how to use them.

[@travis1240]

Agreed. I could make a video where I'd beat my office chair with a paper cup and some scotch tape but I doubt that would prove anything.

[@vksasdgaming9472]

@@travis1240 You would most likely prove paper cup and scotch tape does not make durable weapon.

[@IamSpacedad]

Nunchakus were not historically used much as weapons because they weren't very effective against swords & spears. They were more used as traditional training weapons for improving reflexes and dexterity of martial artists. The mythology of them being used as actual weapons has more to do with their theatrical use by people like Bruce Lee than it does any real world relevance. Which has resulted in a lot of hilarious martial arts fails in real life when street fighting gang bozos try to use them and get clobbered. (Often by themselves.)

[@weloniko]

FIGHT EACHOTHER BRUTALLY IN THE ARENA TO SETTLE THIS!!!!!! WOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

[@jaydenlobbe7911]

Shad would win, it’s not even a contest

[@Jonathan-A.C.]

I think most bladed weapons will outperform nunchucks in terms of usable distance, because you can still strike or slash at someone with the entire blade all while you control the weapon, unlike with nunchucks dropping the power considerably the closer the enemy is too the center. In essence, the blade stays sharp throughout, while the nunchucks exponentially lose any power. Even if both of them are controlled by the user while striking and you’re moving around, the sword doesn’t risk being grappled away and has better available reach. Good video all in all, just my opinion on swords vs nunchucks

[@vksasdgaming9472]

Everybody knows swords are better weapons. Including those who developed nunchaku to a functional and effective weapon.

[@LOWTlERWULF]

Ah yes, the double handle flail

[@matoux317]

Nunchuck vs knife does seem feasible actually

[@GhostGuitars]

Is that whisky on your desk? I have beer on mine right now :)

[@MrShellmarx1981]

Nunchakus effectiveness is very situational and could probably work well in ambush or tight places combat where opponents have switch blades or knives. But as purely in combat with most hand held weapons it is kind of capable for defence but offensively would prefer the Tonfa , sai, most bladed weapons or staff as most actual encounters are time critical

[@davidwallace5645]

I 100% would rather be the person with the knife in that situation without any hint of a doubt

[@Alkis05]

There is just one response video I'm interesting in watching: Two guys on protective gear, one if a stick and the other with nunchakus fighting each other with the intent to hit

[@johntrains1317]

4:09 probably the most damning case against the nunchuk. Regardless, thanks for the video. It was informative. Because of this I'm gonna check out nunchuck point fighting. Any suggestions? P.S. a louder hit doesn't necessarily mean a stronger hit. The sound itself is the proof of energy being diffused away from the impact point. In kicking for example a foot making a loud smack against a leg is usually not very painful, just annoying whereas a kick that thunks or thuds in my experience is proof that it penetrated much deeper and is more damaging. I get your logic here but I don't think it shows what you think it does. Maybe I'm wrong 🤷

[@EcstaticWaffle204]

Pretty awesome video... I'm glad how you kept it light-hearted and still be able to demonstrate the advantages of the nunchaku... you're right, it's more important with the training... if you're untrained in any weapon, it'll be dangerous for someone to wield. Great video!

[@format6]

Great video, good points. Bit of a bummer to be so dedicated and skilled in a weapon that you cant legally own.

[@dojodendrijver9977]

The safety nunchakus I can own. And luckily I have a few wooden ones secretly haha

[@bryanjackson8917]

Indeed, the fact that nunchaku are forbidden means they are effective.

[@clydeberry8523]

@@bryanjackson8917 Thats not how that works. Thats not how any of this works. Half the reason theyre banned is they are so effective at injuring the wrong person.

[@bismarkvillanueva8025]

Not inly legally own but not even legaly used in combat

[@benrex7775]

@@bryanjackson8917 Just ask a gun fan if the effective guns are banned and the non-effective guns are legal.

[@richterumali7828]

Any weapon that is too complicated to use, less force, harder to come by and high probability of self inflicted pain is a stupid weapon.

[@twoheadedchicken7904]

Then the nuke was a stupid weapon

[@martryn]

I knew watching Shad's videos that he wasn't being completely honest about the nunchucks, while at the same time demonstrating why people, in general, should avoid them. They're obviously not ideal weapons, but, clearly, in the right hands they are versatile and effective. I'm still a fan of big stick, though. Most underrated weapon is really big stick. I'd happily bring a quarterstaff to a sword fight. I'd not want to bring nunchucks to a sword fight.

[@chaotixthefox]

Difference between being honest and being harsh. He can certainly genuinely feel that nunchucks are trash, and that assessment can be too harsh a grading at the same time. The main argument is that you could put time into any other weapon and learn how to use it faster and more safely than nunchucks, and thus video does not disprove that. This man is 12 years experienced and like Shad said, still misses his catches sometimes. If you put 12 years into a stick you'd not only have greater damage, reach, and control, but also not have a chance of hitting yourself.

[@milanifitnessofficial]

Well said!

[@strider_hiryu850]

i feel like even as a wheat hitting tool, a simple stick would work better because there's no chance of it hitting the user. after watching the video, i still think a stick is a better weapon.

[@twoheadedchicken7904]

They were used to beat wheat cuz you can make the same motion over and over with out as much shock going into your hand

[@dropkickcorpse]

I have a theory that nunchaku were situational improvised weapons carried by local Okinawan and Japanese night patrols/guardsmen as noisemakers. Before streetlights, a local japanese night patrol would walk with a noisemaker and lantern so people would be drawn towards them and could safely commute back home. Even now people carry string wooden sticks to fireworks festivals to cheer and celebrate. Kabuki also used stringed sticks as noise instruments for their plays. It was probably a really obscure and situational improvised weapon and didn't even have a Okinawan kata like the other kobudo weapons. Kind of like how designing a kata and wielding a maglite flashlight or a brass handbell primarily as a weapon would seem really silly to us.

[@hermitcard4494]

I get into some trouble. I don't have years of training and experiencie in martial arts. Do I choose the more complicated to control nunchs, or do I chose a plain easy to use stick?

[@bryanjackson8917]

Use whatever is at hand. Do you usually carry sticks with you?

[@Isthatsimple]

@@bryanjackson8917 for that reason, telescopic baton became popular

[@bryanjackson8917]

@@Isthatsimple Metal folding chairs are also useful as both a defensive and offensive weapon. When not fighting with them, can also be used to sit on.

[@bravo9960]

@@bryanjackson8917 chances to find a stick or a broom is higher

[@bryanjackson8917]

@@bravo9960 I carry a pair of small wooden nunchucks in my backpack and, at times, in my back pocket when I anticipate I might need them, for example, walking down a dark street late at night. (Obviously I don't live in a state where nunchucks are forbidden to be carried around in public.) FWIW, you don't have to be a skilled martial artist to learn how to use nunchucks in self defense. A few basic moves are all that is needed. (As Yoda might say, "The elements of shock and surprise are strong with this one".) Are there superior weapons in the martial arts? Obviously. Are there non-lethal weapons that can be so easily carried around and hidden on your person but available for use in a split second? None that I can think of. Note: The fact that nunchucks (a non-lethal weapon) are banned in some states should give some indication as to their true effectiveness in the right hands. But like I said, it actually doesn't take a lot of training to learn quite a few effective self-defense moves with nunchucks. Note: I will have my nunchucks at my ready disposal and smack you in the head with lightening speed several times while you look around for your silly sticks or broom handle.

[@IronBodyMartialArts]

You held it at the bottom and that’s a good start.

[@jameshamaker9321]

I had a pair of nun chucks as a kid, I got really go with them. I had to buy two replacement pairs, because of the dog. After the dog, I kept my second set and ended up bullied for having them, because kids at school, starting fighting me because I owned them. I fought back and still got sent home. The system is broken, I'm still not happy with it.

[@SuperMurray2009]

And were they effective?

[@DeadlyDanDaMan]

They require too much training to be of virtually any use. That's the #1 biggest problem with them.

[@vksasdgaming9472]

So does sword. And stick.

[@modelnutty6503]

they're not good if you don't know how they recoil, or understand how to put them back to a controlled/ready state really quickly. they do require a lot of "flashy practice". a short heavy staff is much more effective and easier to deal with. your demonstration+style IS excellent btw, I have spent some time with them too. a favorite (and simple) move is a little deception, advancing but "missing" the strike (pulling a little short) to rebound from the leg for a hard uppercut then around for a side head shot. yes they can grab a hand/wrist to quickly break it, or break a forearm with a strike, will end a fight very quickly in most cases. break a nose or cheek bone, they're usually blinded for it at least temporarily, so no the nunchuck isn't lame/stupid/ineffective at all if you've really spent the time practicing. they give enough reach that it is hard for someone to deliver a kick without experiencing a LOT of pain for trying to. but.. if you allow someone inside, you could be done pretty quickly too. your style shows plenty awareness to that aspect, you're saying it too, keep moving, be agile as you're working them (you have to develop it!). "laws" in Germany, other countries too, are RIDICULOUS!! if you carry something for self defense, it is automatically regarded premeditated.. AYFKM?!! at present my favorite for self defense is a "monkey fist", paracord wrapped steel pinball with a 10" cord into a 4" handle (about 15" total).. which easily tucks into a pocket. kinda similar to nunchucks and requiring some practice for using one too. Drijver you'd probably like one too if you aren't already familiar with it, its like a heavy blackjack with a little more reach, or a small handle ball and chain mace. small enough to be very fast, heavy enough to cause real damage quickly too. look at "double paracord globe knot", "quad braid", and "twisted crown knot" (doubles back up the cord to make the handle) videos to construct a good one. or quick improvise one with a padlock on 13-14" of chain and wrap a handle with a bunch of duct tape.. not as "artistic" nor quite as fast, but very similar wielding.

[@silverbearmacphearson9137]

The slungshot is illegal in most places that had ports during the days of sail. Mind you at the time they were also known as slingshots and sometimes much longer than you described.

[@BensonCope]

The Speed point is actually a really good example of the nunchaku's uses, though I do agree with shad overall but it is definitely a situational debate.

[@DonDon-ou7jt]

people who dont know how to use nunchucks will certainly speak bad about it. We also use nunchucks in Filipino Martial Arts/kali/eskrima/arnis and it is an effective weapon weapon especially if one learns how to control it. Also to avoid bouncing, one.must follow thru with the strike. A nunchuck made of hardwood is really good too.

[@ikkiville]

Calling it a "ranged weapon" is inaccurate and frankly confusing, at no point does the weapon become a projectile or launch some kind of ammunition. I could see using the term "reach weapon" because of the dynamic movements you can get out of your swings but even that may be a bit of a stretch.

[@dojodendrijver9977]

I agree, reach is better!

[@NecroAsphyxia]

Even then I am not so sure... because Nunchucks don’t really have a longe reach compared to other weapons... I mean sure they reach farther than a knife but is that really saying much?

[@counterstrike89]

@@dojodendrijver9977 So then what about chucks with a longer chain, with lighter wood but strong wood increasing their speed, how will the stick holder react to those strikes, you can strike around the stick.

[@counterstrike89]

@@NecroAsphyxia Depends on the chuck, I'm purposely practicing with a longer chain right now, including doing all the flips and tricks. The long chain chucks have increased velocity, reach, and hit with even more of whip like action.

[@chuckysmaria6466]

What can nunchucks accomplish that a stick of same length and thickness can't? Nunchucks has shorter reach since you don't hold it at the end (instead near the chain or chord). Then it bounces back which increases the chance of whacking yourself. Even the concealability of nunchucks is dubious since it's too eye-catching. you're better off having a stick and use it as a fancy walking stick (1800's style).

[@dojodendrijver9977]

Did you watch the video? I said never hold it near the rope, at the end so you have maximum range of the weapon. And also like I demonstrate chances I hit myself are very very small. Sticks are also fine especiall when not trained in a weapon at all. Then way beter over a nunchaku

[@chuckysmaria6466]

@@dojodendrijver9977 And whack your fingers You're better of using a medieval flail. And why waste time mastering a weapon that is substandard to a stick that can be wielded with less training. How about this as analogy of training vs ease of use: Longbow vs crossbow. both range weapon Longbow requires years of practice (to build the muscles to draw the bow. It can loose more arrows per minute and has longer range. Crossbow on the other hand requires less training and can be used easily (since it separates the drawing of the bow and releasing), but it has shorter range and can release fewer bolts. Now let's look at nunchucks and stick (same length and width as nunchuck). What does nunchuck's benefit over a stick that would justify the training required to not get walloped by your own weapon?

[@dojodendrijver9977]

@@chuckysmaria6466 haha did you just use the exact same example I used in this video? You make no point at all.. How about this. Why driving a 100k car vs a 20k car. Both do the exact same but the other one is wat more expansive, both in use and in buying it. The answer is fun and passion. Like I said in the video I agree with almost all shadiversitys point about the nunchaku, but they are displayed very negative and I try to bump that up to more positive. You don't agree that is fine. I won't dive into a this is a superior weapon over this weapon. Nunchakus are fun, weapons and deserve some credit for still being a weapon

[@chuckysmaria6466]

@@dojodendrijver9977 "Why driving a 100k car vs a 20k car. Both do the exact same but the other one is wat more expansive, both in use and in buying it. " Depends on gas mileage. Depends on speed, performance. But if the only thing a 100K car has against 20K is because it's flashy then yes I'd tell the dealer to shove the 100K car up his rear end. I understand some weapons require more training to be effectively used. But I also understand that usually those are made worthwhile because of advantages it confer. Like I said longbow vs crossbow. My point is why dedicate years of training to master a weapon that has little payoff than a weapon that requires LESS training. That's why I ask, what advantage do you get from mastering nunchucks? Power? Reach? Reliability? What makes nunchucks WORTH the amount of training? Especially when it can be overshadowed by a humble stick. If I'm going to waste time training on nunchucks, I'd be better off using that time doing Arnis, quarterstaff, spear

[@bryanjackson8917]

Nunchackus only bounce back at you with serious force if you fighting with a a rubber dummy, such as Shadiversity experienced.

[@Axis1337]

Also, the fact that you're using training nunchucks says it all. You're worried about hitting yourself. And you're trained with them.

[@ojotabe3]

Did you watch the video? He's using training nunchuks because regular ones are illegal in his country

[@KuyaMich]

In kali everything is a weapon so yeah we love nunchaku

[@creightonfreeman8059]

Although I like Shad, and he usually has valid points, I did not even bother to watch his videos on Nunchaku. It is obvious from the title that he does not like them and has not bothered to train with them sufficiently to know how to use them effectively. Everyone is entitled to their likes and dislikes I suppose. But every weapon has strengths and weaknesses. It is the skill of the user and the context in which it is used that determines whether a weapon is good or not. As you indicated, the "flash" of Nunchaku can make them very deceptive to defend against if not trained against them. If you practice hitting heavy bags or padded trees with them you learn to control the bounce back and even use it to advantage. If the opponent knows what he is doing he can disable the Nunchaku by hitting the right point, but I have had escrima sticks and staffs knocked out of my hands by my teachers during training and sparring too, so what is the difference? A skilled practitioner will use distance and timing to make sure the opponent does not exploit a weapon's weak point. My high school fencing teacher could more or less disarm us at will too, but that didn't mean the foil sucked, it meant the teacher was better than we were.

[@ranuitiopira23]

You should really watch the "Overappreciated Historical Weapons..." video, he literally opens the video by displaying his skill with nunchucks and calling out the people who just assumed he can't use them. He simply doesn't overrate them when comparing them to other weapons.

[@karl3097]

@@ranuitiopira23 Sorry but the flashy moves he did in the first second in something everyone could learn in a few hours, he's not skilled.

[@daryslash]

I appreciate the video and the effort put in for the response. I love these discussions. That said, yeah, you can hit yourself and/or leave yourself open when you miss a strike with any weapon... it is still just easier to do so with a nunchako. It is a matter of probability and chance. Chains, ropes and soft stuff are harder to control than solid material. This is a fact. Of course you can have good control with years of training, but the weapon in itself is still harder to control in essence. When we compare two weapons, we focus on the innate characteristics of each. Otherwise there isn't even a point in comparing. I understand your main point about nunchakos deserving more credit. But most of the stuff you show can't even be done without massive training... so if you're going to spend years training a weapon, there are better options. Shad never said you CAN'T fight with nunchakos. Of course you can. You can strike, dodge, grapple... same as while holding anything else. But they are still inferior to other conventional weapons. So yeah, they look cool, we can appreciate and respect the sport and art around them and all, but we can't deny they're in the bottom tier of efficient weapons.

[@alanmichelsandoval8768]

The point of Nunchucks may be yo become a good fighter with any kind of weapons even if they present a higher level difficulty Because a good fighter should be able to fight to whatever Is at hand. Having said that, you can put some weight to.the end of a Nunchuck and you get a flail

[@coenraadsnyman5229]

Any object can be a weapon in the hands of two types of people. A) somebody who has practiced a lot with this weapon. B) whatever superhuman planer John Wick, Jason Bourne and Liam Neeson are from.

[@Hydraclone]

And Jackie Chan. That man can turn literally anything into a lethal weapon.

[@ZamWeazle]

@@Hydraclone a steering wheel is favourite!! 😆

[@dowe9382]

personally I have mastered and refined the use of the chuks without swinging by aiming directly toward the opponent with speed and power using two in each hand inwhich I believe cannot be blocked, versus swinging and I might add I always hit with the tip or edge of the stick.

[@kingnhonj954]

The best part of the video is when you check force by noise I was laughing so hard. It was just so hard for me to tell the difference in noise and it's not a good measuring system. I'll just take your word that they both were approximately as good as the other.

[@dojodendrijver9977]

Haha yes! I know how silly it must sound but it's all I have. Luckily a good mic filters out loud noises. Made my point very dull.. thank you anyways!

[@jamesfstokes]

@@dojodendrijver9977 When I got to that part of the video I could hear that there was a difference. I was actually not looking at the screen when you did the two swings so that I could focus more of my attention to what I was hearing. On the first swing I thought it sounded like a padded sound. With the second swing it sound a lot more like a hard smack. It is interesting that just by changing if you push through the target or stop at the target you can change the impact energy being transferred into the target. The part I find even more interesting is that stopping your hand at the point of impact instead of following through with the swing is the opposite of what I have heard or punching someone or swinging a sword. With those weapons I have always heard that you need to follow through in order to have the greatest impact. Very interesting...

[@gabemckelvey6779]

Incredible, when you hit with them like they're a big stick, they don't work as well as a big stick. Truly Shad is making some groundbreaking discoveries.

[@aslakjacobsen1517]

Highly encourage you to watch the videos on youtube about how to deal with a flashy opponent.

[@aspieatheist6040]

Also nunchaku are less likely to break in combat than a stick, and they're small and therefore easy to conceal.

[@Isthatsimple]

that is true, because they don't hit with even half the force of the stick, so chance of breaking is indeed lower

[@Ebi.Adonkie]

Imagine forbidding a nunchaku but good'ol sticks are legal😂

[@brakdanych4329]

Weren't nunchaku forbidden because they were to dangerous for an inexperienced user? Edit. Commented before watching, haven't known he adressed this point and described why they are forbidden in his country

[@davibergamin5943]

Well, its impossible to forbid such a simple object as a stick

[@Hydraclone]

It's about intention. The same reason why you need a licence to own a gun, but not a knife. A knife is designed to cut food, rope, whatever. It can 100% be used to cut and kill a person, but that's not the primary design. A gun... Well. That's why you need a licence.

[@soya_kitchens]

@@Hydraclone Tell that to Britain

[@Hydraclone]

@@soya_kitchens I'm from England. 🤨

[@nonsononessunooko4066]

that makes a good complete explanation on the matter now thanks

[@Nardz024]

This video is spot on, and I subscribed because of it. By the way I made my own response video to Shadiversity, I actually mention you and use clips from this video within it. Anyway just thought I'd let you know, hope you're doing well.

[@dojodendrijver9977]

Really liked the video!

[@kristiankonig3195]

Thanks, i think maybe the thing is not that nunchucks are not useful. They just need a LOT of training before they becomes useful - and then in specific situations, not on open field battle.

[@jkgf4671]

And what's the point of spenting A LOT of time learning to use these if you could put A LOT LESS time in any other weapon and it would be A LOT more useful than those?

[@luisfernandez1387]

@@jkgf4671 because it looks cool as shit

[@jkgf4671]

@@luisfernandez1387 you can also spin sword or even stick and those also look cool

[@bismarkvillanueva8025]

Im pinoy life is short if i ever dedicate my self in learning a skill ill chose a martial art like are own filipino mix martial arts thats flashy with or with out weapon can be use in combat and in a actual self defence

[@amp3469]

Regarding the bar fight story, improvised nunchucks made from broomsticks seems like a good idea.

[@studdaman420]

Pool cue make's a better stick though...

[@jons9239]

You got skills and I love the chucks but I agree with Shad here.

[@liamhogan4369]

To your first point; if it is visually impressive to use, and/or is improvised, it will remain in common knowledge, even if it’s not particularly effective.

[@skepticalextraterrestrial2971]

Trying to use that point was actually self-defeating, because the nunchaku barely survived to see the 20th century (probably because it is relatively useless). "The nunchaku wasn't a very popular weapon. We deduce this because no traditional nunchaku kata is known today. By contrast, we currently know more than a dozen traditional staff katas." (source: www.nunchaku-do.com/histor_e.htm)

[@liamhogan4369]

@@skepticalextraterrestrial2971 Damn fine link. Just think of how many sword katas there are. Even after standardization killed a lot of them.

[@karl3097]

@@skepticalextraterrestrial2971 Check more sources and come back to say the same if you dare

[@alvin_row]

I fucking hate how the discussion in the comments is just people repeating what Shad said as a fact.

[@jackofblades2796]

I know its like they follow what he says even when he can e wrong

[@vksasdgaming9472]

Only one thing in his rant is true and that is so widespread truth that it is pointless to mention separately: it is not a perfect weapon.

[@jackofblades2796]

@@vksasdgaming9472 same could be said of any weapon though

[@vksasdgaming9472]

@@jackofblades2796 Every weapon is compromise of its roles. When only undisputable truth in rambling temper tantrum claimed to be result of research and study is in class of "water is wet" it is quite hard to believe. Especially when it is followed by more inane rambling about same matter with even less content and more insults.

[@fishdude666ify]

I USED TO HAVE THOSE PRACTICE CHUCKS! They are the only practice set you can actually hit stuff with. I had them for almost 20 years and beat the crap out of them. They finally broke when I put too much focus on a dummy arm that had steel pipe under the padding. I'm pretty confident I could knock someone out with them without too much visible effort; with that in mind my real hardwood set I feel would be deadly. I used to put giant dents in full size heavy bags with full control for an immediate follow up strike.

[@GoodNewsJim]

Say what you want about Numchucks, you get a chain around their neck holding sticks as levers, there is almost no faster way at ending a fight.

[@siddharthnandi3995]

You're more likely to hurt yourself with a nunchuck. You could do the same with a stick with less risk to yourself.

[@vksasdgaming9472]

@@siddharthnandi3995 With nunchuck yes, but with nunchaku no.

[@speakstheobvious5769]

I think the nunchucks have one good thing over a staff in the right hands and that's intimidation. I had a great uncle that was put into a coma from someone hitting him in the head with nunchucks by an unskilled hooligan. So they are dangerous.

[@kolbywilliams7234]

Nunchucks are not a ranged weapons. It’s as long as a stick. That’s not an advantage.

[@nelelolnews8519]

Which model are these? Where they can be found?

[@pancrase9048]

I own a pair of wooden octagonal nunchakus, from personal experience practicing with them the only time i ever hit myself is when I tried to be an idiot an do flashy shit. Even if someone does hit themselves in the hand or forearm with nunchucks it only stings for like a few minutes depending how hard you swing and exactly where, people need to stop being a bitch about it. I don't practice with them to perform movie tricks I practice for self defense, I don't claim nunchucks to be a weapon of mass destruction I personally use it as a personal defense flail. Sticks are predictable weapons, they can do some damage but you can telegraph where a stick is going to swing from, if you bum rush the person and are willing to take a hit, you can grab the stick and control the situation. A nunchuck is gonna be more difficult to grab because of its constant momentum and overall snappiness. Nunchucks may not do the kind of damage that Shad thinks the all mighty stick can but you really don't want somebody to hit you with a striking pair. Ask Houston Jones who volunteered himself to to test plastic and wooden nunchucks in his inner thighs. The video showed his one leg slightly bruised from the plastic nunchucks and the other leg from the wooden nunchucks severely bruised and almost bleeding, thank god he's smart enough not to test it on his skull lol.

[@jaimeflor4181]

It would be nice if you demonstrate "fragment no.1 gripping" slower, because I'm not familiar with it. Although I think I figured it out now. I'm self taught, aside from basic catching and striking, but I've been using them off and on since I was 12, and I'm 42 now. I don't have many controlling issues and rarely accidentally hit myself, probably because I don't do any of the useless fancy techniques. You make some very good points, as far as control goes, so it's nice to see someone demonstrate that. Although there are debates whether or not the Tabak Toyok was designed before the Okinawan version of the nunchaku. Both perhaps come from the Chinese flail though. Bruce Lee was using a Tabak Toyok, or some type of combination design of the 2, because he learned from Filipino martial artist Danny Inosanto. In that case, the design is different. The chain is longer, and the handles are a bit shorter.

[@dojodendrijver9977]

I will make a basic handling video!

[@jaimeflor4181]

@@dojodendrijver9977 Awesome! Thank you 🙏. I’ll be sure to keep an eye out for it.

[@Israphel776]

What exactly did this prove? I'm trying to find some point being made to its usability but all I'm hearing is "it's a sport". I mean, ok?

[@davidwallace5645]

I think this video was less to prove the nunchuck's validity over other weapons, and more to say that it can kinda be used as a weapon if you're super skilled. Tbh though, I think the video is kinda pointless.

[@victorsilvosa9770]

Because that man didn't know the use of nunchaku

[@straightjacket308]

Did you even watch Shad's video? Listen and watch, then reconsider your opinion.

[@robiulahmed]

@@straightjacket308 He might have trained a bit, but clearly Shad isn't well-versed in the nunchaku. Do a KZbin search for nunchaku and heavy bag, also check out hard2hurt's videos on the nunchaku and you realise how inexperienced Shad is with the weapon. Saying Shad is proficient with nunchaku is like saying he's a proficient boxer as he knows how to throw a punch.

[@Gapeagle]

Thank you for proving another of Shad's points. The more experience you need to get a weapon to be at least functional, the more stupid and impractical it is.

[@robiulahmed]

@@Gapeagle It depends on your viewpoint. Are the sports of boxing and judo stupid? It takes years to get good at those. Is riding a bicycle stupid? It's certainly more tricky than walking. Is using a mechanical film camera stupid because it takes more skill than using a digital camera? Some things require expertise and nunchaku is one of them. Sure, using a stick is easy, but it's also more difficult to conceal. A nunchaku strike to the mouth is going to hurt like a biatch. Also, check out that Bruce Lee movie where he uses nunchaku. Are you telling me none of those strikes would have hurt?

[@karl3097]

@@robiulahmed I want to add one thing, a bo or staff is more complex than nunchakus due to its simplicity. Therefore it would take more years to _master_ the staff than the nunchakus. That's one of the reasons of why if you start Kobudo you begin with bo training, because it's easy to use and because it would take more time to perfect your skills with it.

[@star-b-qpodcast54]

Dude, you are seriously dope with those chuks!

[@tylertyler6418]

Deadliest warrior gave a nunchuck “expert” (don’t know his training) a chance to use it on a realistic ballistic gelatin head with skull and brain matter inside. After the expert hit the head, almost no damage was done. No cracked skull or bleeding. Maybe a concussion. Very unimpressive. Not a worthless weapon, but I prefer my weapons to seriously damage the thing I use them on. That’s what a weapon is for.

[@GeekOwtLowd]

It funny that they would ban two sticks attached with a string.

[@benkalem]

The argument comes down to predictability, which directly translates to user safety. There's a much higher risk of things going wrong with the nunchaku, than with a stick. While you can use the weapon effectively, in an actual combat situation a simpler weapon is superior. However, you can't really deny the cool factor, and that counts for a whole lot in pretty much all other situations. Let's be honest, most people don't get into fights very often. Doing cool stuff is always cool.

[@Shrekbob88]

The nunchucks you are using seem easier to catch and gain control of easily. But if you have a lethal version of the nunchucks catching right after a swing seems like you would be hurting your own hand? We can hear the force it makes as it smacks your hand/palm as you catch it after it swings once or you pass it to the other hand, wouldn't that just be much harder if you have the real version? seems like you could break the bones in your palm?

[@bismarkvillanueva8025]

If you say flashy i rather use 2 balisong

[@wahu_cobra5232]

i really enjoyed ur point at 10:10. i feel as if shadiversity used the point of the nunchakus unwieldiness as a point against the nunchaku instead of as a point on his lack of training with a nunchaku, which is why ur point at 10:10 is so effective.

[@Isthatsimple]

he is pretty good with Nunchaku though - Shadiversity that is

[@wahu_cobra5232]

@@Isthatsimple not being toxic at all, but I hav to disagree. He does know basics though (over the shoulder pass) I’ll give him that

[@johndalquen7668]

I'm guessing you got drunk on that whiskey in the back ground.

[@nunchuckman4253]

It’s amazing to me how seriously so many people take this argument from from a gamer channel lol. Obviously someone who never used nunchucks is better off with a stick. They are even better off with a gun. As a nunchuck fan I think he’s wrong with people who know how to use them. The problem is nunchucks have become a flashy dance type of activity for most practitioners instead of fight training. They are fun though and I love training with them.

[@vksasdgaming9472]

A perfume bottle filled with HCN is better than gun. No loud noise and no need to aim. Guaranteed to kill anyone.

[@ericoluizgarcia3365]

so are nunchucks essentially flails?

[@mohawkmeteor7189]

Seems similar in the potential farming tool they are based on. They also both were not used a lot. Recently I came across someone's idea flails could have been used on horseback mainly because striking with a solid weapon affects the arm a lot because of all the velocity and force.

[@Ebi.Adonkie]

I do disagree with one thing, a stick is better in self defense in an untrained hand than a nunchaku. A stick is just for simply whacking!

[@michaelnettles2570]

With my coat I can render nunchucks irrelevant.

[@robiulahmed]

Only if your coat covers your face.

[@Reaperwarth95]

You can follow through with the sword expected that samurai sword

[@Gizmomaster]

I think we could put together a Criteria for what makes a “good weapon”. I think one of those criteria should be ease of use. Let’s imagine two 2 people are about to get into a fight. They each find a weapon, one gets nunchucks and the a stick the same as both the nunchucks end to end. These two people have never trained with these weapons and never used them in a fight. Let’s assume both fighters are of similar build and physique. Who do you think would win this fight? I’d have to go with the guy with a stick. Nunchucks just have so many disadvantages. You have to train with them in order to overcome those disadvantages but a stick is very simple to use, intuitive even.

[@Broockle]

i'm really curious how those nunchuck bar fights went sounds like hyperbole ;D

[@IamGrimalkin]

If you're close-quarters with a sword, don't you just half-sword?

[@jamesfstokes]

Nice video! I liked the points you made regarding the more practical usage of the nunchucks. After watching this video I now have a greater appreciation for the weapon. I can see that it can be a reasonable weapon as long as you are sufficiently trained in its use. Though, if someone has no training in using nunchucks I would say that using something like a stick or some sort of blade would be much more likely to be successful if someone was in a fight. The reason I say that is for the very reason that they are effective as a weapon. And that is their unpredictability. At least with a stick you have much greater control in using the weapon, whereas with a nunchuck I could see it being much harder to aim and control them until you have more training in their use. Thanks for the video! I really enjoyed learning more about nunchucks from you.

[@dojodendrijver9977]

Thank you! All I want is to make people more known with some other techniques with nunchakus

[@dowe9382]

You have to strike with the tip in order to be effective also I do not swing I use direct strikes like using a gun. I have been using since the early eighties and have been in street fights and consider my self as good as Bruce Lee’s who I fashion my style after every strike is deadly plus I don’t even consider flashy stuff as useful at all. Any target I aim at is struck instantly again like a gun and no swinging.

[@mat199622]

You are simping pretty hard here. Can't blame you but I also think that Shad went at it from a reasonable if a bit annoyed point of reference. He never said you couldn't ever have control, but rather that you can never reach full control. And that without training, the stick is going to be way easier to use even if you open yourself just as much. Another point was exactly what you've shown which is the fact that you have to sacrifice control for power and vice versa. You show this, yet you seem to fail to understand his point.

[@allthewayproduction1]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the ONLY reason nunchaku was a remembered weapon, was because of karate traditions/ceremony?

[@vksasdgaming9472]

Then they learned it is actually really good weapon.

[@silverbearmacphearson9137]

I would like to see nunchucku vs cane de combat. Since both are sportified versions of real weapons and their techniques. Use both weapons rules so that you would have to make your two passes and they would have to do their full spin before attacking. Give your location this would be easier to organize the in Australian or the Americas.

[@magsterartabia3889]

nunchaku is fast minimal damage not to kill damage but to confuse then make multiple pain to opponent complicated to newbies we hope not to fight for a differences of opinions in time of danger we must be aware of anything we can use to defend

[@8Ivion8]

Nunchaku should be used like Manrikikusari and Hanbo for trapping & breaking.~Warrior Nai Bhairavi Prakriti

[@ZamWeazle]

Trapping in sparing or pressure testing isn't ideal. I certainly wouldn't try trapping against someone of any skill.

[@8Ivion8]

@@ZamWeazle Feint->Break->Feint->Trap->Repeat Situationally Until Their Limbs Are Disabled->Cut off Blood/Oxygen To Safe Point. You are pretending to look at my words, while actually showing that you have not scratched the surface of what nunchaku actually are in regards to weapon categories and as an extention of fist technique.~Warrior Nai Bhairavi Prakriti

[@franciosdeaeruiu7555]

I have never hit myself with my own fists