306. Columbus: The Adventure Begins

[@andrews527]

At what points is Columbus aware that he's only "discovered" islands, and a continent eludes him?

[@88HaZZarD88]

Greetings from Genoa

[@michaelgibney9288]

The Night before Christmas (A Visit from St. Nicholas ) was written by Clement Clarke Moore, fellas

[@eadeshogue6702]

Great commentary as usual!

[@ilaister9652]

Astonishing is one word for that accent.

[@colinmagnier1232]

He should be sent to the Hague for that effort

[@forgottenarchitecturalhistory]

Small correction -- 19:32 Washington Irving didn’t write the Night Before Christmas, aka A Visit from St. Nicholas. It is credited to a prominent New Yorker called Clement Clarke Moore, who was a friend of Irving. However, some historians suggest the evidence points to a different author (not Irving).

[@klausbenavente5535]

Dominic! Got you! 3:14 It wasn´t Castille it was actually Spain! Which was formed in 1492 with the marriage of Isabela and Fernando! And this United Kingdom (haha) sent Columbus to India and not Castille

[@carveraugustus3840]

The conquest of the new world was a Castilian project. As I understand it queen Isabella sent Columbus. King Ferdinand sent his forces into Italy cause that was his domain Italy and the Balearic islands he conquered.

[@klausbenavente5535]

@@carveraugustus3840 hey Carver! Inspired from that episode, I ve watched/ heared/ red more of the 1492 topic …and now I disagree on some things dominic and tom Said on later episodes. Ithink that you are right about that the conquest was driven by castille and its Infrastructure. Castille ships left from a castille harbour. The Union of Aragon and castille took surely some years. But theoretically the Union was done. Barcelona where columbus was received by the kings 1493 was in aragon. For my understanding this is a spanish thing. But a Lot of mexican historians prefer to say castillian, Like you do. And far beyond 1492. Maybe as you say, there was this split of naval forces. Aragon maintaining in the mediterranian

[@carveraugustus3840]

@@klausbenavente5535 indeed, from my understanding from my reading/listening (not just the Tudors always helpful) only Castilians could go to the New World for a time. That’s why Ferdinand had his energies going opposite direction : baleric Islands and Italian campaign to the east. And like they said, wishing to go on crusade to Jerusalem. but he went to Italy instead more pragmatic.

[@DiotimaMantinea1]

The marriage of Isabella and Ferdinand happened in 1474, not in 1492. From 1475 to 1479 we had the War of the Castilian Succession (Isabella of Castile and Ferdinand of Aragon Vs Joanna of Castile and Alfonso of Portugal: a civil war between two female heirs and their husbands). From 1482 to 1492 happened the conquest of the Emirate of Granada. The conquest of the city of Granada is not the date of the unification of Spain. And keep in mind that the Kingdom of Navarre was not conquered until 1512 (in the context of the Italian Wars against France) and Portugal (Portugal is "Hispanic", because "Spain" means "Iberian Peninsula") didn't join the Spanish Crown until the War of the Portuguese Succession of 1580-1583 (quite interestingly, Portugal could have been the Kingdom which unified Spain in 1474, had Alfonso V of Portugal won the War of the Castilian Succession). About the formation of Spain we can say that the Unification of the "executive power" happened first (as early as Isabella and Ferdinand), and the legal unification happened much later (between 1707 and 1716, after the War of the Spanish Succession).

[@launiesoult3248]

The Greeks discovered that the world was round 2000 years ago😅 before Columbus I think the Babylonians knew the world was round

[@ComedyJakob]

I think Columbus was a truly bad man based on contemporary accounts of his general obscene cruelty. He was also not exactly a bright man, considering his plan only worked out on accident. I tend to agree with Neil DeGrasse Tyson's view that Columbus' voyage was the most important event in human history, the point at which man's two separate branches intersected for the first meaningful and lasting time. In that sense, I do think Columbus Day should still be celebrated or commemorated.

[@AngryNegativeHistoryProject]

Truly bad based on contemporary accounts is a fun perspective. You could possibly be related

[@famebrightstudio451]

God I wish Neil DeGrasse Tyson stopped sniffing his own farts and calling it cologne. The most overrated "intellectual" of our times and that's even with Jordan Peterson still extant.

[@lutherandross3165]

CliffsNotes for this comment: Columbus bad. But I like cell phones.

[@IanCross-xj2gj]

@ComedyJakob I agree that Columbus is an important historical figure. He is a victim of historical revisionists, who I greatly disapprove of.

[@tigran56]

And the slaves were from? Brighton?

[@YT2024Hayward]

Wasn’t he half Polish?

[@carveraugustus3840]

October 2024 update. DNA testing says He is a Sephardic Jew

[@jj342]

Likely