337. Ireland: Union, Famine, and Parnell

[@anthonymullen6300]

Wow!! this Irish Guy is really doing his best not to hurt the feelings of these English hosts.

[@unaontour]

Any discussion of the Irish Famine makes me cry. I'm an Irish woman and it is so difficult when driving through this country to understand how there could be a famine in such a green and plentiful land. Fish in the rivers, birds in the sky, fertile soil. I am not sure if this podcast did the horror justice but i understand it's trying to cover nearly a millennia of history over three episodes.

[@jl91iii]

This historian didn't do it justice. The famine itself could be an 8 part series

[@cyclofeedubox8332]

As a scouser every time I walk down into town I pass st Nicholas’ church (bombed out during WW2), I give a nod to the famine memorial, written in Irish and English, to commemorate (the wrong term) the devastation of the famine. So many of us here are only here because of that period

[@CL-we8tn]

Awesome, I've been waiting in anticipation

[@barrylyons9296]

You're not alone. Dissenter here.

[@marblackCanada]

To my Canadian ear, I can't get over how much Tom sounds like Rory Stewart.

[@KeithWilliamMacHendry]

🤔

[@natecanavanar4696]

Interesting. The more I learn about Irish history, the more I understand songs by Cruachan and Dropkick Murphys. And some of this is my own family's history too, my ancestors came to Australia to escape the famine. I should know more than I actually do.

[@ciaranhiggins5736]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/farOh4aLgMiopKMsi=YfDQmwKlDAEvUbB- This was a great two part doc on Irish tv, narrated by Liam Neeson. Even as an Irishman who likes history, there was a lot in this I hadn’t known.

[@bsastarfire250]

Thomas Keneally, an Australian, wrote a great book about 19th century Irish political figures , the famine etc. emigration to Australia called ''The Great Shame'' 1998.

[@baltasarnoreno5973]

I have never really thought about it before, but you guys are right. John Redmond gets barely a walk-on part in the history of British politics at the turn of the twentieth century. He was the essential support in the House of Commons that kept Asquith's Liberal government in office and whose votes were needed for the very first parts of the welfare state to be put in place, plus getting the reform of the House of Lords.

[@CL-we8tn]

Guy Fawkes as well, he wanted to blow up parliament because they kicked the Irish out.

[@Free-flyBE]

Wow; at that 11:30 Tom remarks that the Irish immigrants that came here to the US blamed the English for their plight - it is alive & well today! My kids had school friends that were full-blooded Irish that to this day their parents loath the English & anyone with the heritage:/

[@papi8659]

Biggest mistake of the Empire - the UK government should have embraced Home Rule and fostered Irish loyalty. The British lacked confidence in reality.

[@bsastarfire250]

The Irish catholics were seen as hostile to Britain and the Irish peasants as untermensch.

[@TheDanieldineen]

Iontach!

[@anthonymullen6300]

What killed the Irish was the race and religious laws that were past " the penal laws"!

[@IndividualPerspective]

One word..... "LOBOTOMIZED""

[@jillob6291]

As an Irish person. It's hard to have English ppl talk their version of the get hungry. In the great hungry 1,140000 tonnes of food was exported out of Ireland to England and beyond! The famine Queen victoria blocked anyone donating money if it was More than what she donated.. The MP Robert Peele said "The real evil with which we have to contend,” Trevelyan famously wrote, “is not the physical evil of the Famine, but the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the people.” England didn't want to help! genocide.

[@CarmellaMulroy]

Look what happened to the native Americans. It could have been worse. At least some of the Irish survived