tldw; - Ran 50 maps with Obelisks, 50 without and tracked the results, mainly focusing on the instances of Fracturing Shards, Annulments, Exalts and Ancient Orbs. - (I may do a video on how i get my maps) the t17 map farm on sheet is my go to if you need it - Combined it with Beyond and high map effect to benefit from the huge number of monsters added to the map (i leveled from 95 to 98 in this time) - The number of shards and instances of fracturing shards was VERY close between the 2 methods - Obelisks was faster by a small margin due to less harbingers - Harbinger loot (shards) do not scale with quantity - I ran city square to try and cause the harbinger spawns to overlap resulting in a faster map time - The "ground loot" aka scarabs and currency accounted for more than the harbi currency in both tests due to the volume of monsters - No obelisk strategy dropped way more fracturing shards as the stacks from kings are twice as much as those from obelisks - 46 > 28 despite only dropping 1 more instance of fracturing shards - Div per hour with obelisk = 8.5 - Div per hour without obelisk = 11.83 - Both of these values assume no down time which is obviously unreasonable but serves more as a top end to my results. - I recommend running 8 mod city squares with the tree i shared and without the obelisk scarab for maximum loot - Happy blasting! What should i farm next?
@MydrecaNaPopa3 ай бұрын
Is jungle valley good? Is it good if i first clear the map without killing mobs so i get shrines for quantity or its just a waste of time?
@Milkybk_3 ай бұрын
@@MydrecaNaPopa Yep 1 of the best options
@kizmy23 ай бұрын
im debating between deli orb + map so i can get all the explicits modifier from atlas tree or waste a few atlas tree points for deli instead of all explicit modifier and use 8mods maps instead. ive been making currency doing non 8mods + deli orbs but im wondering i i should use deli from atlas instead and go 8mods..
@MydrecaNaPopa3 ай бұрын
@@Milkybk_ Thanks!
@VelvetSky11023 ай бұрын
how about farming guardian maps and maven
@mj87003 ай бұрын
Love your videos Milky. It's such a great introduction to many different farming strats that league after league ends up being my go-to money makers. Keep doing what you do, you are doing awesome!
@huideaki3 ай бұрын
thanks for the strat, dropped 2 mirror shards on the 10th map
@andrepierrot893 ай бұрын
surely
@aftershocker223 ай бұрын
Think im about 1300-1500 harby maps full invested in and i find the prices of the regular harby scarab decicding if i use obelisk. It is very very similar loot running obelisk or without. I find it that if i use obelisk i get more ancient, exalt and anul shards and without a little more fracturing shard, but all togehter it is about the same value. i recommend checking the price of the harbinger scarab price when deciding if to run obelisk. Hope that helps anyone
@aftershocker223 ай бұрын
also, i stopped going beyond and im running all shrines instead. I find it alot faster , comfterble and making up the missing loot with going more maps in the same time without beyond
@damonblack14952 ай бұрын
We are over a month in at this point and harby is still pretty decent to farm. Annuls don't sell that well. But exalts and ancient orbs still move pretty quickly. I set my atlas up almost the same. Harby + beyond but I also took enough ritual to just guarantee 4 rituals for extra mobs and of course the occasional nameless ritual. I found the obelisk scarab to just feel bad. Even though you are dropping more shards on average from each map having them drop the fracturing shards instead of a boss harby feels so bad. It feels like you are getting half from your lucky drop.
@ondrasuchanek64672 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video.. I tried it and it's fun strategy for me. Have you tried using scarab of lineage (40% more pack size)? Since shards scale with pack size, it should be good as well, but not sure if better than another harbinger scarab.
@jamesjbbetar91622 ай бұрын
Fantastic video as always! I understand that Harbinger doesn't scale with any kind of quant, but does pack size affect the number of harbinger monsters, and thus the eventual number of shards?
@brandonwalker50113 ай бұрын
The real problem with harbinger isn't the lack of currency per hour it's the currency per click. Unless they make shards get picked up automatically I'll never be running harbinger.
@Obnixs3 ай бұрын
With intro like that you know he is farming a headhunter a day
@senX3 ай бұрын
really like the content, does he ever talk about his builds? i watched some of his vids in affliction too, and he's always got insane builds but never links them?
@wesweeblez21903 ай бұрын
i did 100 each way, found higher div/hr with oblisks and more per map with the extra harby, they were withing 10% of eachother tho, i did notice more t17s without oblisks tho, and i did have an oblisk drop 4 frac shards which duped ofc so 8
@Milkybk_3 ай бұрын
Interesting, was it 4x2 or 2x4?
@ghostiekrans91623 ай бұрын
Any thoughts on Scarab of awakening, giving imbued harbringer craft on map device??? Last league i had a blast using it for Harvest which it was really good for. Does it also add same value to harbringer or is this a scarab that's horrible to use for Harby's
@Grippeh3 ай бұрын
how much less of a profit would it be if you were to run regular t16s?
@iamtheforce143 ай бұрын
Would be good for videos this league to track an approximate gold per map doing the strat. I found I was getting 20-25k gold doing harbingers so that kept me in it longer
@Milkybk_3 ай бұрын
I’ll start including it on the sheet so far most things I’ve done are in and around 20k
@jamessunderlandseventh74103 ай бұрын
How many maps(on average) do you think you would need to get a single mirror shard from harb?
@TerrariaFansN13 ай бұрын
Too many, I have seen none and I farmed it for 4 leagues and 1 of them was an older one where harbi was op asf
@Bamtko3 ай бұрын
I farmed harbingers all league in ultimatum, sentinel, scourge, archnemesis and crucible. I have seen mirror shards 4 times. They are insanely rare.
@jihyothegod26283 ай бұрын
some people say a thousand
@lukecoffey73463 ай бұрын
What mtx are you using !
@Geovanni1893 ай бұрын
Hey Milky, I've been running Harbingers for a few 100 maps as well this league, can you please tell me where you get the 14 harbingers from? I am "missing" the last 2, i count 9 from scarabs, 1 from tree, 2 from map device. Also, while i didn't make a spreadsheet (more of a go off of my gut kinda player) i tested the obelisk scarab for around 20 maps and the returns felt worse. Edit: Upon rereading my own comment, it sorta comes off as sarcastic, this was not my intention, i genuinely thought there was 14 harbies, and i was missing a mechanic.
@Milkybk_3 ай бұрын
you're right i completely forgot they nerfed the map device craft, old habits - good spot
@Geovanni1893 ай бұрын
@@Milkybk_ Oh, no worries, i was just cracking my brain where i was missing harbies :D, thanks for the clarification, nice video.
@ShadowHalkFly3 ай бұрын
it was 46 fraturing shards in 50 maps thats right?
@Dmitry-jr7en3 ай бұрын
why blue altars?
@jesserietveld62843 ай бұрын
I'm looking for a harvest/altar tree but I'm wondering if harvest is worth doing without the expensive scarab or is that just a waste?
@henrikswanstrom92183 ай бұрын
I'm doing Harvest with only the doubling Scarab which costs ~13-16 chaos. I'm also using the 40% magic packsize and 40% influenced pack size scarabs and 10% extra maps per map mod scarab for some additional loot and map drops. Gets me around ~3k Harvest juice per map. Only 8 mods with all map effect and quant nodes of course.
@dungeonboss83563 ай бұрын
It is definitely good if you will use that juice yourself, or if you will save it for later when it gets 2* more expensive than it is now
@othmanalmesbah52573 ай бұрын
I have one question i noticed you dont want to spawn beyond bosses is there a reason? I did get few good stuff from the bosses tbh
@Jumaz003 ай бұрын
beyond monsters stop appearing when the boss dies
@swiftkd91443 ай бұрын
how do you always gather so many maps. I have issues buying T16 maps in bulk that have not annoying stuff on it
@Milkybk_3 ай бұрын
I’ll make a map farming video
@Toxickys3 ай бұрын
Shame they removed the good harbi scarab
@Milkybk_3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@4Wulfred3 ай бұрын
they are becoming blizzard removing all good things we loved affli league . they added with 0 drop effect shame shame shame
@burtonboarder5033 ай бұрын
I miss city square plus the harbi compass, blast like 120 maps an hour, profit was insane
@sf50283 ай бұрын
Nice
@Shoop...3 ай бұрын
OMG this guy uses a giant AI mouse avatar for his video dialogue. 10/10
@Sindamsc3 ай бұрын
I'm playing kinda similar strategy for several days. Was pretty good in terms of profit (nothing close to affliction, but scarabs payback great at t16), also leveled to 98. Today I was scammed when I was selling Fracturing orb, the usual "oops I forgot all currency (swaps 4 divs with 1 div). Next time I better pay taxes at the currency market 😂
@smithers44203 ай бұрын
It seems that now you can only focus on 1 league mechanic in your maps properly. The last time I played was before the scarab/ Sextant change but back then you could comfortably fit 2 or 3 mechanics Into a strategy. Is this intentional? It feels like a move jn the wrong direction
@tether233 ай бұрын
It does seem to be in line with their vision, they want us to focus on specific rewards not just fill our maps with monsters and kill for loot.
@benegesserit98383 ай бұрын
without scarab. no fractured shard so far with full harb. atlas at lvl 96. weird af
@x710xTitan3 ай бұрын
Nah obelisk scarabs fucking broken i keep dropping fracturing orbs! U need +40 magic pack sze 2 harb scarab 1 obelisk 1 boss harb scarab in t17 ive seen absurd amounts of fracturing shards and orbs 😂
@trixonotrixono15673 ай бұрын
@x710xTitan Can this work in T16?
@Eqnotalent3 ай бұрын
Why does harbinger drop more divines? Is that an atleast tree node or a scarab?
@Steven-gc2pm3 ай бұрын
I liked waffles
@l104lsuperfeeds73 ай бұрын
100% sure no mirror shard drop on the harbinger
@aftershocker223 ай бұрын
i have dropped 3 :)
@madcow58333 ай бұрын
I didn't make a spread sheet, but my intuition was that obelisks looses money.
@DwasolNumbie3 ай бұрын
Meow
@Brakthir3 ай бұрын
The most stupid thing what people can search about Poe is "best farming strategy on KZbin" really? How stupid is that?:D only after 50-300 views, prices for pieces that requires the strategy get way much expensive and mostly margin are so small that it became unreasonable to go for it. Thanks to so many Wannabe KZbinrs and don't go to work. Covering all the stuff in the game. 3-5 years ago this game was enjoyable, now it's pure speculation
@user-hk5lr6gn3m3 ай бұрын
Game is still fun, stop crying, go play. You* are ruining your own enjoyment, not everyone else.
@davidcook45383 ай бұрын
cry more man child
@myrkshideouts60203 ай бұрын
@@user-hk5lr6gn3m i play poe since 8 years and i have to admit that he is right the game is not fun anymore either u are hight experienced player and economy warlord or u are fucked and tested to play 10 times more thant those people to get the same currency cause of lack of experience XD
@T.e.m.p.e.s.t3 ай бұрын
You sound like poe is your second job. People like me don't do these anyways. There are much better ways to make div. If you have to sac your time doing these just to buy your worthless few div uniq... that's cringe.
@adrianx82433 ай бұрын
You just confirmed my observations. Harbinger at current 6c scarab price is just a wash and little to no profit. You spent 15 div to make 19 div from harbinger loot in 100 maps.There is no point in running this trashcan mechanic which is sad because I love this mechanic lol.
@Posuajants3 ай бұрын
He's making 8 and 11 div per hour in his test, what are you on about?
@SuliXbr3 ай бұрын
@@Posuajantsraw , not profit
@Posuajants3 ай бұрын
@@SuliXbr no, profit. Look at the breakdown in sheet, cost is removed. Also in these videos it's always profit per hour
@c-tothefourth48793 ай бұрын
Nope
@adrianx82433 ай бұрын
@@Posuajants Well this is problem with your IQ if you see his data and see 8-11 div per hour.
@xgmbeyx3 ай бұрын
Bro need some good edit if you loot drop edit i like it Give background ncs and drop edit