Ret. CIA Security Officer Ryan Fugit Part Two

After 7 years of flying as an Apache Helicopter Pilot for the Army, Ryan Fugit knew it was time to settle down. So naturally, he moved back to the States, settled in with his family, and immediately joined the CIA as a Collection Management Officer. But working at The Agency isn't all office work - Ryan spent time in Europe and North Africa, rubbing elbows with some of the most unique individuals in spy craft. He even took his kids on a couple of operations, though they'd never know it at the time. And after all that, he took up securities work at huge Fortune 500 companies, tracking down some of the most illicit material on the internet and serving justice to the most offending trolls on the internet.
Now, he hosts Combat Story, a podcast dedicated to sharing stories from veterans just like our very own Mike Ritland, but that's far from the only detail worth sharing. How did Ryan's time at the CIA change with the constant influx of new tech, like facial recognition? Why are the world's most popular search engines seemingly so biased, and is there anything we can do about it? And when it really comes down to it, just how awful can people be to each other from behind the illusory safety of a keyboard?
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:55 - Flying the Ground-Convoy Ambush
17:12 - Naked Eye Impact
22:28 - An Apache Pilot's EDC Dump
28:02 - Sir, I Think You Fired a Missile Into India
36:00 - Out of the Army, Into the CIA
39:42 - Welcome to The Farm
44:04 - Family Matters
49:11 - It's OpSec on Another Level
55:49 - Rubbing Elbows with the Enemy
01:01:10 - Close Calls in North Africa
01:08:14- Catching Criminals at Google
01:13:23 - A.I., Disinformation, and Biased Search Results
01:24:50 - Online Security & Personal Practice
01:35:25 - Bad Stuff We've Seen on the Internet
01:42:52 - The Never-Ending Arms Race
01:49:25 - The Combat Story Podcast
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[@xxjoeyt07xx]

Heard he wasn't gonna join the CIA, but said Fugit

[@kalbcorp]

😂🙃

[@sameersharma9819]

Don't do stand up... dad jk.. 😅

[@jessejames9854]

Lmmfao!!😂😂

[@DMU386]

Perfection

[@Dre-el7xm]

Dammit 😂

[@jaftb2012]

You two along with Shawn Ryan are my 3 favorite podcasts.

[@t2final814]

Mike Glover also does a lot of good interviews

[@blasphemous]

Andy Stumpf as well

[@JohnSmith-ei6sc]

Andy stumpf Is such a milk Toast milebirty douche. Mike glover isn’t really a podcast guy. He does long rants mostly they’re good though. But the original comment is right for military podcasts it’s mic drop Shawn Ryan and Combat story.

[@bradethier3762]

Jack Carr as well, but these 2 and SRS are mtt favs as well

[@brock45569]

Ditto

[@NESARA17]

Why is Brother Mike's channel not at 500k subscribers? Seriously! Ryan's channel combat story is great! Especially liked his episode with Mike Edwards. I know it's lots of work to make a podcast, and we appreciate your dedication Mike! Sincerely Brother Brock

[@ustopian]

The long awkward ad parts probably.

[@Adogg89]

Same, I think to myself why isn’t this a much bigger podcast. He use to get over 300k per vid. And no it’s not the ads, we all know everyone just skips them anyway for any video

[@ustopian]

@@Adogg89 not when your hands are greasy and you feel trapped in the ad. I listen while I work.

[@rockytopvfl8350]

I watch both channels and this has been one of the best interviews I've seen on YT hands down!!

[@rusnsc7622]

Thx Gents enjoyed the conversation in part 1 & 2 with 2 of my fave Pod hosts. Keep up the good work!

[@luisarteaga6074]

Combat Story is a dope ass podcast💯 been a sub from the get🤙🏽

[@brad2mac6]

This was one of my top three favorite episodes of Mike drop. Keep killing it Mike!

[@GunWebsites]

great insight, thank you both for a great 4 part series of amazing conversations !!

[@frankthierry4528]

Great podcast episode. I particularly loved the last part of it, about AI in future, trust & safety challenges, the young generation. Thanks Mike and Ryan.

[@NotOnDrugs]

*In my humble, caucasian opinion: Ryan has one of **_the_** best pod's that is always packed w/ great interviewee's & he's also a great one, himself.* *Combat Story* is the name of his podcast, on YT.

[@hair4alluk]

This was a fabulous podcast and interview - I am very grateful to Ryan and his Podcasts combat stories as I started on podcasts during the intitial lockdown - then found Mr Ritland - Jocko and SRS...my four favourites. Ryan's concern as a pilot looking after the warriors on the floor was immense - absolute warrior too - sitting ducks in the air sometimes and hell bent on helping the warriors below....I am so grateful for all veterans.

[@garrettkline4566]

Ryan is becoming one of my favorites to listen to on the show! He’s open intelligent, and you can tell not full of shit! Great guy and awesome podcast Mike!

[@ryanbeason5664]

Showing that exceptional CIA training. He's not a 'good guy'.

[@thudtrades1850]

Good stuff Mike!

[@tomfraser8425]

Nice interview with a great guy. Ryan is real interesting and has a great story to tell. Thank u both for your service to this great nation.

[@ClintonCaraway]

Ryan I'm so glad you didn't sell my orthopedic my knee(s), shoulder and hip replacements. However I am glad you created Combat Story because I have listened to every episode and I stated during recovery from surgery. Thanks both of you for such great shows. I am a huge fan of both Combat Story and Mike Drop podcast!!

[@CyndieJobb-bz4hh]

I am happy to have found your channel Mr. Ritland. I love your interview style and the inside look at so many places and perspective from so many true elites, yourself among them. Thank you. I had an older sister who lived in Afghanistan after travelling there along the "hippie trail". This was pre soviet invasion. She loved the people and the place. She got to travel to aee the Bamiyan Buddahs before the taliban desteoyed them. If you have not read Tribe by Sebastien Junger about separating/coming home and feeling a bit lost, (written after he was embedded w the men of fob Restrepo) it is very insightful. I also appreciated you speaking about what you carried. Tim O'Brien's The Things They Carried is one of my favorite books. It is Viet Nam era. If this very old news to such as yourself, forgive me. Also heard you say in previous show you were surprised at how many women are listeners. You can another fangirl to your list. Thank you again for the excellence. Happy New Year. Cj

[@Grits_and_Glamour]

Props to anyone having to fight at altitude. I spent 2 mos at 7500’ in Colorado and still every day woke up feeling like I had a plastic bag over my head. The day got a little easier as I got to moving, but I still got out of breath and I’m fairly fit and have no respiratory problems

[@Kevinbrad17]

Keep it going Mike.

[@boggy8557]

Great interview. Such an interesting guy!

[@GlobalMediaInc]

Great Show, Guest, Interview, Episode, And /Or Platform...

[@natejackson4791]

This is an excellent guest. It's going to be difficult to top this guy as far the the next guest goes.

[@BruthaBrother]

Mike Mike.....the new Larry King of interviewers.....good stuff....stay Solid Bro! ....

[@dare2121]

KEEP EM COMIN MIKE

[@makidiaz3894]

Ritland is at the top of his game.

[@justinmckellar313]

Turn it off & back on again with a malfunctioning Hellfire 🤣

[@gman52712]

Awesome interview. Although my buddy and I decided to play a drinking game and had a beer every time an ad played. Did you know the ER uses activated charcoal to reverse the effects of alcohol poisoning?

[@dagongshow]

Fucking christ, finally. Only ended episode 1 with the biggest cliffhanger ever...

[@rockytopvfl8350]

Im a subscriber to Ryan's channel, you can just tell he's a damn good guy

[@hair4alluk]

Hear Hear to that Rocky ♥♥

[@chrisstengren8995]

“is having to shit a factor?” Best question ever….

[@MrDrocballer]

Had an f16 pilot shit his pants in my jet…. 🫤

[@chrisstengren8995]

@@MrDrocballer new call sign? Lt. Brown…

[@MrDrocballer]

@@chrisstengren8995 if I remember correctly his last name was Schmidt 😉

[@chrisstengren8995]

@@MrDrocballer well then that makes the new call sign so much easier….amiright? Rhymes with Schmidt……same first letter…

[@MrDrocballer]

@@chrisstengren8995 🤣👌 looked a little uncomfortable doing the dookie walk in a g-suit

[@skipmooney5732]

Ryan , Your just as good from the other-side ✌🏼

[@LionCubFather]

This podcast popped up on auto play. I am subscribed here, but did not select this. I listened for an hour debating if this was Snowden. Not being able to see who it was there were many times I was convinced.

[@ksmith87]

This is going to be fucking awesomer!!

[@Zombie-fb5zf]

Very interesting

[@aron7439]

Respect 🫡

[@ImCreepingDeath]

Interesting to hear what goes on at Google in terms of security and what does'nt get through. I can only imagine the things people have to look at.

[@priority19]

In the A model apache the gun slews at 120 degrees per second,, the last pilot to WAS the gun gets it. Meaning backseat can be using gun, soon as the last round leaves the gun the gun will slew to the request of front seater. Back seater usually shoots rockets due to rockets need to be in constraints. Back seater cannot designate the Laser for hellfires, but can fire for an autonomous designation. I'm talking A model...

[@andrewspangler3462]

Love the podcast and thank for your sacrifice. A high pass filter would really help the audio. The timber your voice rattles speakers ha ha. It’s distracting. Best to you.

[@tonykeast9966]

The rotor blade on his Apache was the Fugit spinner

[@matthewbrandon931]

Even Ryan, once CIA always CIA. It's the reason he's here.

[@firmbeliever3847]

What do you mean? Propaganda? I dont think so. Hes telling his experiences, nothing like a james bond secret reveal party.

[@johnnunn8688]

If he had a call sign, it would have been ‘Don’t Care’, Shirley? (Fugit)

[@em34ev3r]

He's alright...sounds kind of like a special forces/operations groupie. He definitely fits as a helicopter pilot.

[@bradethier3762]

I mean he interviews all types of people but carry on

[@williamwood5258]

He made it through CIA selection which is not easy including background polygraph, I wouldn't downgrade him, very few actually make it...

[@Chertoff88]

several sources state the current unit cost of the latest AH-64E Apache as $52 million.

[@DMU386]

I wonder why the CIA had parts of the Berlin Wall at their compound as some sort of memorial to its history. The CIA didnt know the Berlin wall was coming down until bricks started hitting them on the head. Two gigantic events having life changing consequences 9-11 and the break up of the USSR, the Agency had no clue either was happening until it was on the news

[@bestjobieverhad9584]

You fly when we die.... why is the grass green

[@ryanbeason5664]

1:16:10 admission of CIA directing the thoughts of the masses through algorithmic manipulation.

[@The_Geezus]

An admission that Google is doing it at best. But everyone should already know that a publicly traded company that runs a search platform isn't going to return results harmful to their share price. Manipulation is a feature of profit driven services and their regulation assumes people aren't stupid enough to think they are unbiased. You have no right to an un-biased internet indexing and search service unless you built and maintain one for yourself.

[@christiansmith-of7dt]

Berserker

[@mrsmiley631]

So your guest worked at google helping suppress dissident voices and opinions.

[@joshd7465]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@The_Geezus]

You have no right to an un-biased internet indexing and search service unless you built and created one for yourself. Everyone should already know that a publicly traded company that runs a search service isn't going to return results harmful to their share price. Manipulation is a feature of profit driven services and their regulation assumes people aren't stupid enough to think they are unbiased.

[@friedmac7146]

I'm surprised they didn't speak about the credit card company's that have all the personal data of everyone. I wanna say there where 3-4 of them back in 2008 that may have changed already? Nebraska, Omaha 🌽✨🌽✨🌽✨🌽

[@logic_and_fitness9421]

Ryan seems like a standup dude, but I would never hire former CIA dude. Once CIA... always CIA and it is such a terrible organization.

[@70stunes71]

🇱🇷👍🏻💯

[@MikeHunt-rw4gf]

algorithm

[@bradalan7188]

⛩

[@Memry-Man]

🤢

[@FTW1374]

Like im supposed to “ Trust” anything coming from a dude who worked for the CIA 🙄

[@DMU386]

The guys/gals who work for the Agency or another alphabet soup who are responsible for the big time world changing events are not going on podcasts. This guy working for the CIA running a few assets giving intel to some tier one unit so they can knock off a bunch of taliban in the far east is not the craziness you’re thinking of. No reason for him to lie about any of this

[@eddycd24]

We appreciate you asking him about Google's bullshit biased ways. He sure avoided answering the question honestly. I don't even use the search engine and highly recommend others do their own research to find better search engines.

[@adamx12m]

Openai is just scratching the surface of AI, any text, audio, and video can be transformed into good, bad, and ugly with a bias at incredible scale and timeliness. Google, Facebook, and Microsoft can manipulate information for $$$, political agendas, and advertising with little governance. Chatgpt like services just takes it to a whole new level of biased and censored results that is manifesting at incredible speeds. I'm hopeful for niche chatgpt communities that are open and focused on telling the the proper facts giving people choices. What people don't understand is training data for chatgpt takes an incredible amount of computing power and $$. Guess who is buying all the super high powered Nvidia GPU hardware cards to build monster server farms, all the companies above and China. The AI race is just heating up.

[@johnnunn8688]

How would a person know, that they’ve found a better search engine?

[@adamx12m]

Very much a challenge, privacy and data collection is a big deal leading many use duck duck go for search as an alternative. Google and Facebook have the means for extensive data collection and compute power, but can you really believe they always use it for the good of society. The one thing Ryan talked about with filtering all the bad stuff out, not a job I would ever want and hopefully AI can handle that better in the future.@@johnnunn8688

[@rickrudd]

​@johnnunn8688 Yes, John, have you been living in a hole? They unpersoned Zero Hedge. Then in 2020, they did the same to Breitbart, Daily Caller, Red State, and a bunch of others. Google's "misrepresentation policy” and the “good neighbor policy” fed their “XPA news blacklist,” which were all run by the Trust & Safety team. After they were exposed by a whistle-blower, they turned the switch back on overnight.

[@adamx12m]

Today, Mark Zuckerberg said the company will have 350,000 Nvidia H100 graphics processing units and overall almost 600,000 H100 compute equivalent GPUs by the end of this year. This will shape information and disinformation.