I speak for the average man/woman that works 40+ hours a week with social commitments. Ret paladin is a simple, explosive, very fun class to pick up and play. I don't need mega hard rotations that boggle the mind. Ret Pal allows me to button bash whilst looking at the screen and enjoying the game, whilst watching out for mechanics.
@CaptainBlueSam2 ай бұрын
I'm going to dive in to a paladin just because of your comment. I'm returning to WoW after about 10 years and really enjoying my Shadow Priest, but really wanted to build a melee dps toon. I work 8-5 through the week, so I don't have a lot of time to dump in to learning rotations like Fury Warrior or Frost DK right now.
@fredbridges40122 ай бұрын
It's true take pally to 70 and you will love it
@evandaniell64052 ай бұрын
I support this comment
@ondrejbeck30972 ай бұрын
yep. Fully confirm and agree.
@abusmokeeyyy18742 ай бұрын
I'm in the same place your comment has made me want to build a ret pally for sure or frost dk
@Deadneck2 ай бұрын
Ret for raids, holy for m+, prot for old raids farmin mounts/transmog. Always a good class to alt/main 👍🏼
@jfkwkfk88672 ай бұрын
why prot for old raids?
@Deadneck2 ай бұрын
@@jfkwkfk8867 Cause its so easy to pull everything with avengers shield
@MarcelianOnline2 ай бұрын
Yes indeed!
@Zayker0002 ай бұрын
@@jfkwkfk8867survavibility/dmg
@Jester-862 ай бұрын
@@jfkwkfk8867 only thing they're capable of doing in tww after dogshit tuning.
@keanureevesofnc27872 ай бұрын
You know what high DPS is temporary, one update may be gone but cool is permanent! Ret forever!!!
@Qstorm882 ай бұрын
Facts!
@kevin-charlesbeaudry4695Ай бұрын
Ret paladin could be the exception to that rule tho.
@UltimateGamerCC2 ай бұрын
i have been a Ret Main for a very long time, i will always Main Ret, it's just what i do. that being said, i'm glad that Ret is doing good, i look forward to playing TWW in 8 days from now, here's hoping that my plans go smoothly.
@MarcelianOnline2 ай бұрын
Fair enough! GL, lookin good so far!
@MA-gc2pc2 ай бұрын
Literally, I've been pushing 25s+ in SL (s1 and s2, cuz in s3 and 4 it became a bit better) when ret was the most dogshit spec ever, it is your skill in the end, I don't care if they nerf it or buff it gonna play it and destroy high keys and flex with dps as a d-tier spec :D
@luisurdiales30912 ай бұрын
In compariso, today I decided to clean the dust off my rogue that was sitting in Oribos and tried out Subtlety. Oh, boy... who in their right mind thought that it'd be such a great idea to give that thing like 6+ mini CDs to track?
@gscgold2 ай бұрын
Ever since legion, mine is retired, RiP combat
@Idkidkidkidk4562 ай бұрын
i played sub in s1 and i loved it. now it feels absolutly unplayable to me. i dont know what they are thinking
Ай бұрын
Retribution Paladin has the best class design hands down. Every button press is meaningful and rewarding.
@andrewrenshaw2741Ай бұрын
Fury warrior and Monk feel the same way
@GrimMorningstar2 ай бұрын
I think more people play BM and Ret is, yes because they are simple to pick up, BUT ALSO they are very Thematic specs! They both drip class fantasy in their abilities, talents and looks!
@CozyAmbrosieАй бұрын
i haven’t played ret pal since legion and i just leveled it from 41 to 70 in a couple hours. it’s so fun wtf
@Yuta9997Ай бұрын
Literally me yesterday, went from 39-80
@jessikat669227 күн бұрын
how?
@L0rks2 ай бұрын
It is nice to bang something and Retribution Paladin is great at banging thing! Thank you for the banging video :)
@synns68982 ай бұрын
Been maining ret pala since vanilla so nice to hear that 20yrs in i can continue in the war within though given a choice I’d go back to wotlk pala, that was the peak to me of ret pala.
@badger129Ай бұрын
Just came back to the game and I started off as a warrior but it was just something about it I didn't like. About a week ago I decided to give the ret pally a go and oh boy, it's alot of fun! In my opinion the ret paladin is in a great spot in terms of fun and chill!
@Xenamos2 ай бұрын
As someone who just swapped over from Enh to Ret in the last season I am having so much fun. I have never touched ret since I started in Wrath and always had a bias against the spec but man it feels amazing right now, super fast playstyle but a fairly simple rotation and insane survivability, the complete opposite of Enh which whilst I still love the playstyle just doesn't have the utility or defensives offered by a Pala. Going back to the start of an xpac stats probably wont feel great though lol
@enviousleaf1232 ай бұрын
I started off as a holy paladin healer in Wrath of Lich King. Never played ret back then. Cataclysm I decided to heal as druid. Mist of Pandaria back to healing as a Holy Paladin. Then Warlords came and I hated that expansion and basically quit wow. Then BOOM legion and for the first time I decided to not heal and be a DPS main as Ret Paladin. I loved the artifact weapons and Ashes was so OP. Learned Mastery Build, Learned how to finally be competitive as a ret paladin in Mythic Raiding. Been playing ret since but swapped to Warlock for Dragonflight and honestly loved it. That said, I just finished leveling up my Paladin again and I think I'm going to go back to maining Paladin. I just love the versatility of being able to play DPS/Tank/Healer whenever I want.
@lilshaff072 ай бұрын
Was a main pally decade and a half ago - had an ele shaman I would raid with, but the pally was for everything else. Ret pvp & prot were so much fun back then. Rerolled a pally in MOP remix and excited to take that character to TWW; i have a DK leveled along w/a shaman & lock, but truly think I will main the pally.
@cethseven2 ай бұрын
I still can not wrap my head around whether I should main my Pala, Warrior or Demon Hunter...
@TheDovahlemon2 ай бұрын
I was in the same boat but DK instead of warrior, just decided to pick one to level first and I don't think I'm looking back after picking Ret, it's just fun times without being something difficult and it doesn't need to be difficult, you could always jump to your warrior or demon hunter if it is too simple for your liking
@garybennett2792 ай бұрын
thank you for this i been playing pally sense 2005 it was my 1st level 60 and i was about to play mage or WAR
@Killzhotzzz2 ай бұрын
I'm still deciding on Frost DK or Ret for The War Within!
@derrickhead2 ай бұрын
na they got me f up on beta they said hammer of light was gonna cost 3 holy power now not 5 yea bug report yall report it my fellow rets
@travisshannon90402 ай бұрын
As someone who is always working. This right here is my class! And I look at it this way, if they nerf ret pretty badly they would have to quickly tune it back to a comfy spot as it's our only spec lol. Where as classes with 2 or 3 dps specs, when one spec gets nerfed you have to switch to the one that got buffed, annoying. I have been there lol, so ret pally is a "Heaven" Sent class for me. :p
@Darth_Romans2 ай бұрын
I always mained holy and never touched ret for YEARS. I now have 6 hours are ret and omg it feels so fluid and is just in general fun. I think i might be switching to a dps main...lol
@mihai.popescu05982 ай бұрын
I don t know what to choose between ret paladin or frost dk. I like both classes but i simply can t decide btw i also play casual
@TheWoWisokАй бұрын
Same. I can't decide between Rhett and windwalker. I was thinking havoc demon Hunter but I looked at their rotation and how asininely annoying it is and decided to not even touch that with a 10-ft pole.
@THE_DRAGON_GAMESАй бұрын
Ive mained ret since og cata. I will always main a ret reqardless of their tier or dps output.
@mattmay10202 ай бұрын
Love your spec guides....keep it up!
@MarcelianOnline2 ай бұрын
Glad you like them! But, what spec guides? :D
@mattmay10202 ай бұрын
@MarcelianOnline didn't know what else to call them ...lol
@knight76912 ай бұрын
As a ret main, I'm excited for the hero talents they sound awesome
@greyweissАй бұрын
I spent a long time choosing class to play in the ww expansion. created a paladin, clicked his buttons, and stayed :D
@gscgold2 ай бұрын
Retribution paladin is now my main, I have a feeling I'm going to be playing TWW More than I have played wow since legion, But then again I mained a dk in legion so i might have a dk main alt
@SmugCanadian2 ай бұрын
Rets is my go to for this expac but it's going to be hard to get into mythic+ as the current meta in the beta is 3 frost DK's.
@nunyabusiness13172 ай бұрын
Ret is still one of the best dps classes for m+ hands down. Why people care about meta if they're not doing MDI or insanely high keys is ridiculously stupid.
@andreichetan46942 ай бұрын
I will. I mainly heal as priest but having hpala and ret in one go seems amazing. In going ret first
@Briansgate2 ай бұрын
I did consider it. Until damn near everybody started jumping on the bandwagon.
@markuslc18882 ай бұрын
maining ret since s2 DF, still enjoying it, i am still not sure about the new wake of ashes into wings talent ... a bit too much rng for my taste. i hope the 1 min wings will overtake eventually.
@willssecuritytips81292 ай бұрын
I still kind of miss the casino-din play style of the spec from Cataclysm.
@Melethrion2 ай бұрын
always loved alting a pal. no matter the spec. pref tank but liking ret already too. and yea it not demanding you to get a degree like a bunch of other specs makes it all the more attractive. changes sound great. sadge it's probably not gonna be meta. 😇
@Visher2 ай бұрын
I've played Pally since they were available on Horde side. Mainly Ret the entire time and DF made Ret the best it has ever been. I raided all DF as ret, tried to switch multiple times to other classes but always came back to Ret as it just feels so good. I'm again debating switching to another class for TWW, thinking about Enhance but I'm sure I'll end up playing Ret again. Lol
@Mayhem_Inc2 ай бұрын
The last 2 videos are the 2 specs I’m debating to main. …dk or pally, thx!! but still indecisive 😅
@CosmicCleric2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, could never get into ret. I just can't play a pally without using a shield. :/
@Sandersen-v2i2 ай бұрын
Im ret but i want that shield so bad
@ihanak88142 ай бұрын
is ret any good?
@shakeydog2 ай бұрын
Been a DK since WOD and I’m rolling ret for the new xpac
@thundergodd60862 ай бұрын
Dude, now is the time to stay on DK. They are pumping giga damage and one of the best specs in TWW.
@MarcelianOnline2 ай бұрын
Welcome to the light side?! :D
@thetrav8730Ай бұрын
Casual player here, going to lvl 70 boost a Paladin for shits and giggles. Any good guides for a build out there?
@jetillian2 ай бұрын
No one doubts Ret is good, but I'm falling asleep at keyboard while doing the rotation. Big number isn't enough. Solid spec though.
@MarcelianOnline2 ай бұрын
the reality for sure. Is better in m+ tho
@melski92052 ай бұрын
I dont know man, back when i start ret I had to watch TV to keep me entertained between my swings. The amount of button clicking to get DPS out now days confuses me.
@oriagruber2 ай бұрын
Ok, I’m convinced, ret is the one for me 😃 I like complex bosses and raid mechanics, not complex rotations.
@zachosgood72 ай бұрын
Not sure how but a guild member of mine has some how made 1 handed weapon Ret work, so I guess there is a build variety with Ret
@Szhusma2 ай бұрын
He is either playing Prot Paladin or he has no idea what he is doing. Several of Ret Paladin's core abilities requires a Two-handed Weapon to be wielded. Blade of Justice, Final Verdict and Divine Storm all requires you to wield a Two-hand. If he uses a one-handed weapon, then he is not able to use his Holy Power on a damaging ability.
@zachosgood72 ай бұрын
@@Szhusma he mentioned using shield of righteous and one ability that scales its damage depending on holy power spent and he found out that spell works with shield of righteous
@Szhusma2 ай бұрын
@@zachosgood7 I guess I had not really thought of Shield of Righteous as a Holy Power spender for Ret, since it requires a shield and is not Prot specific. Shield of Righteous is however intended for tanking. It is a low dmg frontal cleave that also gives and armor buff for a few seconds and he will not have access to Blade of Justice, which is a core holy power generating ability for Ret. I would say he could technically play it for open world casual content if he just wanted to for the fantasy of it, but I don't see it performing well at dealing damage, which is what the Ret spec is intended for.
@zachosgood72 ай бұрын
@@Szhusma again like I originally said, I am not sure how he did it but he apparently did, if I ever make a pally I will have to ask in detail how he figured it out
@TheMrCYoung2 ай бұрын
if by work you mean he can complete quests and play the story then sure. When it comes to more serious raids and m+ it's just not possible.
@AFO33102 ай бұрын
Trying to decide on whether to stay as a ret pally or switch back to my monk for a main...I have a week to decide lol
@MarcelianOnline2 ай бұрын
Paladin is better in TWW gameplay wise, maybe it makes it easier!
@ihanak88142 ай бұрын
go monk
@ab-bk8fe2 ай бұрын
Finally ?? We finally goood ? In PVPs and pve ?! I just came back from 6 years ago
@ab-bk8fe2 ай бұрын
I am more PvP oriented not sure what to chose haha
@Darkragetr2 ай бұрын
Hey marcelian i liked your retri paladin ui. how can i get it ?
@jefffontana3095Ай бұрын
What was that leap/jump on a pally? 😮
@kevin-charlesbeaudry4695Ай бұрын
Calling any wow class “too easy” to play in the current game state, is an overstatement.
@stylishskater922 ай бұрын
Im just worried about continuing to main ret. I did so for the most part of DF and while it was super fun, theres just so far you can go with it performance wise (ort getting invited wise). Plus the fact that TWW will probably be even more swamped with rets than this expansion, you will just not be needed (especially after removing ret aura as well). So they nerfed self heal (pressing WoG literally doesnt do anything anymore), i dont like the change to Avenging Wrath (it lasts too short even if its numerically better or the same, it doesnt feel good to press WoA and only have a few globals of AW), the damage hits a hard ceiling fast, it will be oversaturated and brings no buffs raids care about (nobody uses BoP, freedom etc. in raids anyways lol). I prefer M+ at this point, but they went even harder with the "no single target damage while cleave specced for m+". And the AoE still isnt the best in the game. I guess thats always a problem for a trinity spec. It might be fun, but a game is only fun if you 1. get to play it by getting invited past 10-12+ and 2. not getting overtaken rapidly in damage on even skill level.
@El_TutelАй бұрын
Because simple stuff is always the most fun. There is nothing better than watching sweats trying their hardest while I just chill and do 10 times more with no effort. This is a game after all. Literallt nobody cares what you play (unless they get humbled by your class, then they will complain that it's braindead)
@robertm576062 ай бұрын
Tthis early in the expansion, I’m totally thrown off by how slow my paladin is playing right now. Used to have like 48% haste and really enjoyed the play experience. Now blizzard has found a way to drop that all the way down to 13% or something. Fresh level 80. Totally thrown off by how slow the gameplay is right now. Not enjoying it a bit so far.
@SymbolicLogic242 ай бұрын
Where's the new shaman video?
@iamSpook3y2 ай бұрын
The WA at 0:55 looks sick, any link to an import code for it?
@BoJack20002 ай бұрын
Ret is great for open world content with WM on, no one will mess up with you! But it's a bit boring for raid/M+, no-brainer.
@WhataboutBingo2 ай бұрын
What about vs dk?
@dannybartlett42252 ай бұрын
Can you guys make a video about key binding and set up
@banlaszlo2743Ай бұрын
Nice video ☺️ I hope buff Ret Paladin dmg and heal 🙏
@MrVellinson2 ай бұрын
What I remember from Ret paladin before the rework (haven't played since) was not being picked in mythic+ due to being useless... Glad to see that it changed
@Edwin5822 ай бұрын
Do you share your ret weak auras anywhere?
@DurrtyboyАй бұрын
im thinking about maining a pally ret looks like good damage and good self healing for solo deleves then can go holy for groups to get a easier pic
@myv1122 ай бұрын
Ret is like the Garen of WoW, easy to play but many of them are actually pretty bad and its hard to be the best and to micro opti Belive or not
@Yan_Rasso2 ай бұрын
I've been playing ret in early access and it pops off.
@Nick-pc9tf2 ай бұрын
Ugh, every time I look at the skill bar bloat. I decide not to play
@Dan-iy2nr2 ай бұрын
lol you play hunter
@terrytmoney5992 ай бұрын
Lmao what? There was double to keybinds in vanilla... sounds like a skill issue excuse
@Dan-iy2nr2 ай бұрын
@@terrytmoney599 paladin literally has a 4 button rotation lol its the easiest melee class in the game by far
@terrytmoney5992 ай бұрын
@Dan-iy2nr I'd say furry warrior is easier because of the lack of utility, but yeah the excuse of "skill bar bloat" is so lame I'm glad people like the original poster don't play. Crying about the easiest stuff 😅😅😅
@Nick-pc9tf2 ай бұрын
@@terrytmoney599 You're right. Videos of vets don't show the real deal. I tried it and the skills have been reduced and it's absolutely fun!
@mgaming7Ай бұрын
Ret is awesome. Don't touch it. it's perfect.
@gamerguy-pb4qw2 ай бұрын
For m+ wowhead is saying execution sentence>final reckoning. Thoughts?
@UltimateGamerCC2 ай бұрын
i use FR personally, ES requires you to keep attacking the target to build up the damage, FR is an AOE that just brings more pain to the enemy without the need to be overly bursty.
@MarcelianOnline2 ай бұрын
Buff Final Reckoning. If it's a choice for more boss damage vs aoe, it's fine, but as it stands, Exec Sent is likely more overall dmg as well afaik
@cindywagner492 ай бұрын
They play it trying to get it nerfed..
@th0rn3gaming8 күн бұрын
Definitely not my main spec but definitely my alt spec. Once a healer always a healer? 😁🙏
@steveh75082 ай бұрын
i have played since day one, and im maininga palidin for the first time ever, so i mnot FOTM , fun factws
@Kai-10-2 ай бұрын
Let’s see how prot works out
@MarcelianOnline2 ай бұрын
Yeaaaaaaaa, hoping for some love here as well!
@couragebeatty3957Ай бұрын
so im a new player is this something that i could learn easily
@viktor123x26 күн бұрын
Yes
@GAUDAGAMINGАй бұрын
Who would u say is more fun and easy to learn n play for someone who was playing demo since WOTLK and quit wow 2 years ago..and don't need invest 50 hours practising rotation
@BackVera-w7gАй бұрын
Schiller Coves
@PureMetalBanzai2 ай бұрын
Didnt they nerf ret?
@fredxu992 ай бұрын
As a new player getting overwhelmed by mechanics as well as trying to juggle a rotation, gonna give Ret a try. Time for training wheels lol. Seemed pretty fun just bashing out holy power on the radiant echoes event, and all the hammers flying around and swords coming out of the ground were entertaining.
@lockstockbob99532 ай бұрын
You want training wheels play BM Hunter lol
@_Beep.Boop_2 ай бұрын
spreading propaganda about mid specs so we all don't play your favorite OP class : mage
@redrumstr2 ай бұрын
Spec pliz
@That_kind_of_orc2 ай бұрын
Execution sentence is soooo boring final reckoning is much more fun blasting with light nuke but it's not currently recommended and I'm not a fan of radiant glory for some reason you don't get the feeling of "now I activate wings and become stronger" it just happens randomly :-D ret feels weird I liked season 3 light blaster much more than this
@chrishale86922 ай бұрын
Will be a main alt for me 🙌
@MarcelianOnline2 ай бұрын
BASED! Enjoy!
@Entropic922 ай бұрын
I mained paladin until WOTLK and switched to warrior back then. I am so annoyed with the screaming sounds a furry warrior makes, I cant do this anymore. Paladin has at least nice sounds. Also I always have the notion that Paladins have a lot more CC and ways to close gaps.
@gerasimoskardaras13192 ай бұрын
retri or dk? this is the question ... :(
@MarcelianOnline2 ай бұрын
Light or Dark, Choco vs Vanilla, milk in coffee, always difficult choices!
@tankysmillie33212 ай бұрын
Well.. i do unholy with ret main alt :D best of the worlds i believe :P
@gerasimoskardaras13192 ай бұрын
@@tankysmillie3321 yep I think I will follow ;)
@tankysmillie33212 ай бұрын
@@gerasimoskardaras1319 Awesome! good choice :D
@LaurieHunter-d1dАй бұрын
Stracke Meadow
@syxqid38182 ай бұрын
I have all classes on max lvl but activ in a season is my main sv hunter since its meele and 2 max. 3 alts one is my monk and the other one i'm thinking of warrior or ret 😅 both are fun and if i decide to play 3 alts there comes also dk in my mind 😂
@jonoxis2 ай бұрын
Similar problem here, I'm trying to decide between Survival Hunter and Fury Warrior as main and probably Ret Paladin as alt.
@syxqid38182 ай бұрын
@@jonoxis SV Hunter is really fun since the rework but you have not so fun Herotalents like Fury Warri ^^
@jonoxis2 ай бұрын
@@syxqid3818 that's very true, though I feel like people overreacting a bit with the hunter hero talents. I think there not that bad, but I agree that visually it could be a bit better and pack leader isn't that fun.
@syxqid38182 ай бұрын
@@jonoxis if you look at herotalents from other classes its bad ^^ and packleader could be summon more pets just like a leader but yea
@jonoxis2 ай бұрын
@@syxqid3818 true
@Linknla2 ай бұрын
Dude! Flame is kinda a Hottie! 🥵😍
@JeffreyTaylor-c9qАй бұрын
Waelchi Dale
@andrewthomas8172 ай бұрын
I have 2 ret pallys( one was remix) should I level my blood elf pally or my eredar draenie pally
@jonoxis2 ай бұрын
blood elf all the way 😂
@rimiko86Ай бұрын
the only problem with paladin right now is their single target...is so bad compared to other classes... aoe is doing great...but ST.... meh...
@ZombieJeezus4202 ай бұрын
Show your talents
@CarlMcClanahan-y7sАй бұрын
Aaliyah Square
@markayzenshtadt72002 ай бұрын
Output should be balanced by class complexity. If you can mash every button you shouldn’t top meters.
@Uncle-Ruckus.Ай бұрын
Maybe stop trying to be competitive and care about dps in a game but instead go outside?.
@thedaeron3877Ай бұрын
never tought people play paladin because they like the class ?
@morfeoraikonen2 ай бұрын
First one. Keep it up 💯
@MarcelianOnline2 ай бұрын
Thanks 💯
@landofsyn29802 ай бұрын
plz stop making videos on "broken" or super fun classes,..... before they just ruin these classes. you guys got mage jacked up- just chill- make drama videos like all the other youtubers lmfaoooo jk - but chill lol
@MarcelianOnline2 ай бұрын
:))))))))))))))) If only man, would make a Fire mage is dog and numbers are below the tanks if we knew it would get it buffed back up xD
@landofsyn29802 ай бұрын
@MarcelianOnline haha blizzard Buffs classes but the community burns the classes down with performance or videos being put out showing how broken they are. Coming from someone who's wife sister may or may not work at blizzard. Those people really do watch content like this and make major judgment calls based on it lmfao
@BigDaddyWes2 ай бұрын
Gamers are weird.
@taiterz10462 ай бұрын
Yea thanks for that.. (i speak for all fire mages) @MarcelianOnline
@AEfe-sp7wt2 ай бұрын
Ret boring spec
@lordblacksage97312 ай бұрын
Nah you just don’t get it the power of holy light will never be boring
@El_TutelАй бұрын
Says dude with his face on pfp. Probably wow classic fan
@FCBcubano2 ай бұрын
Maybe it's me but I think tww will fail. I've already lost all interest in playing and I've played since wow came out. Df ruined the game for me