Rethinking the Impossible: UFOs, Consciousness, & the Limits of Science (Jeffrey Kripal, Alex Gomez)

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@LuxETenebris33 Ай бұрын

Super interesting. Glad to see people discussing actuality beyond mechanistic materialism.

@StephenAntKneeBk5 Ай бұрын

My compliments to the production team -- cameras, video, lighting, sound, directing, location. Wonderful speakers and audience questions.

@tim59ism Ай бұрын

That was good ! Jeff's delivery was more straight and to the point and Alex was really funny, I loved his sense of humour ! Thanks !

@shereeglasson22 Ай бұрын

Only just found this channel yesterday. Very interesting !

@RAFAELÁLVAROPULIDOMOYANO-o8k Ай бұрын

The challenge is to develop a spiritual interpretation of scientific knowledge and a scientific interpretation of spiritual experience. And then... to discover that both paths lead to the same point.

@art3nem Ай бұрын

Finally an open dialogue starts! We need this conversation more than we think since obviously more and more people wake up to their extra sensory perception and the extended reality that surrounds us. It seems we are entering a different quality of reality collectively that will irritate every single human being on this planet when the shifts happens. I started experimenting for myself with friends and family (remote viewing, esp, telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, altered states of consciousness) with astonishing results that scared me and sparked my curiosity even more, each time I encountered them. I found the teachings and the people who can teach you. And I learned many techniques that are related to chi, prana or energy in a broad sense and meditation. My conclusions so far is that reality is based on our individual and collective perception and agreement. You can override the projection of reality (the subconscious seems to be collectively shared) with pure concentration and repetition. Any scientist and sceptic should first have their own experiences before judging it. So in a nutshell, there is no category. It’s all about bending reality. Using a mental muscle that according to our western culture and narrative, does not exist. The truth is, that it is much more powerful than and extends our physical body and you can train it. Thank you so much for sharing this conversation! Please have a look on the Indonesian inner arts of merpati putih. Get your sceptics together and go to Indonesia. They are actively searching for scientist to make sense out of the abilities their tradition produces.

@adamgordon-strong9055 Ай бұрын

I find Alex and his work fascinating

@adamgordon-strong9055 Ай бұрын

What an amazing podcast

@bagelm Ай бұрын

Fantastic, thank you

@ImagoBeats Ай бұрын

Interesting topic and discussion. A paradigm shift is needed in the common scientific worldview

@spiralsun1 Ай бұрын

I would like to recommend a recent highly unique book from a researcher to this sentiment that legit may be that shift: “Eye of God: Language of Universal Mind” You rarely encounter something this new that seems so related to so many things, in so many areas of science-Its showing that the universe is a symbolic 3-d language written by a larger mind which actually can be read, and we can gain actual understanding and knowledge of things we can’t see or understand without knowing this language-like a whole new field and avenue of knowledge. The book is introductory and only 100 pages long but it’s on only one of the symbols-the human eye-and shows how the eye 👁️ is a symbol of the sun, the earth, and a black hole. Sounds crazy to me too… 😂but that’s why it’s mind-blowing, it seems like it actually might be true. 😳 Seriously I don’t know why people haven’t noticed this book yet. When they do, it will change the world perhaps. Like by a whole lot. Don’t dismiss it, it’s a tiny book-like the tiny universe before it “banged” 😂 and: “Size matters not” -YODA 😂🤷‍♀️ Just trying to add something here. Thank you for the comment, a sentiment a lot of people are thinking more and more. ❤

@skemsen Ай бұрын

Why was Bernardo Kastrup not in this group? 🤯

@TheRealNewWhirledOrder Күн бұрын

What's even more important than none of us ever having seen any evidence of a whirling, twirling, hurling, hurtling, wibbling, wobbling, zipping, zooming, rushing, rolling, twisting, turning, spinning and spiraling space ball, spherical "planet" earth is that none of us has ever seen any evidence that "space" is what we've been told it is.

@suedonn7996 Ай бұрын

I wish the camera would have shown the drawings so the KZbin viewers could see what he was referencing.

@DanielleBennison-Brown Ай бұрын

See the links in the episode description for more info.

@RJ-cs9gz 26 күн бұрын

But we cant see them??!

@ritad9651 Ай бұрын

Dr. Alex, as you mentioned Olympic games in this realm would certainly be a fantastic opportunity to open people to these abilities.

@tjssailor4473 Ай бұрын

Provide the extraordinary evidence that micro-volt levels of electricity in your head can produce thoughts, feelings or any qualia.

@lvincents Ай бұрын

Wonderful! And what an interesting group. I was particularly impressed to see Phillip Goff there, listening to Kripal!! Does anyone know what conference this was at, please? Sure wish I was there!

@GloriaHoulihan 7 күн бұрын

Strange things do happen

@tjssailor4473 Ай бұрын

We often hear of the hard problem of consciousness. Why is there qualia or experience of anything in the first place? I would submit there is an even harder and more important question - why do I seem to be a specific individual experiencing a specific subset of qualia? This is the most important question that must be asked and answered but rarely is. As a matter of fact there seems to be a huge blind spot when it comes to this in discussions of consciousness. If material reductionism is to be relevant to the big questions, then it has to explain not how brains generate consciousness but how the specific brain in my head could create the specific consciousness I seem to be looking out of the eyeballs of this specific body. Why do I PERSONALLY EXIST as an individual in the first place? Out of the infinite matter in the universe how is it that only the three pounds in my head could create me? What is different about that three pounds for this to occur? Consider that billions of bodies showed up before this one. Billions showed up after this one. None of them seem to have created my existence. This body could be running around without it being ME just like these billions of others All bodies are made of the same elements. All brains have the same basic anatomy. If all brains are basically the same and are creating consciousness then there should only be ONE consciousness looking out of every set of eyeballs simultaneously. A hopelessly superimposed existence from every possible viewpoint at once. I’m sure that materialists would claim that no, no, brains are so complex they are all different. Ok, so what would have to be recreated in another brain for me to exist looking out of another set of eyeballs? When the ontologies purporting to explain consciousness are examined critically it becomes obvious that all materialist/reductionist strategies fail completely in attempting to address the individuality question. If an exact copy of my body was suddenly created in antarctica would I find myself to exist freezing there while also sitting in the comfort my living room? According to the physicalists that would have to be true or their argument collapses into incoherence. Materialism already fails since it cannot find a transfer function between microvolt level sparks in the brain and any experience or qualia. In addition it’s not possible for materialistic ontologies to address this question of individuality since no measurement can be made that could verify my consciousness vs your consciousness and therefore no materialist ontology could make any coherent statements about the subject. As far as other ways of thought are concerned only Dualism and Idealism can account for our sense of individuality. Dualism assumes we are all individual spirits/souls matched up to a body through some undefined process. Idealism, which states that consciousness is primary also answers the question of why I seem to exist as an individual. One consciousness exists looking out of every set of eyeballs and in the process the illusion of individuality is created in each case. In actual reality I am you, you are me, we are one.

@steveflorida5849 Ай бұрын

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@martykenny457 6 күн бұрын

Damn bra you just fried my three pounds

@barryt2666 Ай бұрын

Sagan would be rolling in his grave...

@joepurcell6546 Күн бұрын

We don't see any of the images.

@Formscapes Ай бұрын

Pre-viewing Algorithm boost comment

@darwinlaluna3677 Ай бұрын

I am sure we r going to meet some day

@darwinlaluna3677 Ай бұрын

This is a decade, and still this argument

@andrewjohn4876 Ай бұрын

They call it ‘Talking School’ ie its all talk leading no where.

@shelleythompson2049 Ай бұрын

It's not reliable because unlike professional athletes who spend all their time in training, anomalise phenomena occurs with luck of the draw. Corine Sombrun has a sound loop that induces trance in 80% of participants. Where else is all these potentials that can be part of legit training programs that can weed out pro-sensors vs amateur sensors etc

@kalyasaify Ай бұрын

the media atm: 'look, DrOnEs' lol

@darwinlaluna3677 Ай бұрын

Relax my friend

@bagelm Ай бұрын

Science really needs to be more open minded. World veiw is so stifled, Jeff is so right

@ItsAGoodChannel Ай бұрын

Based on the number of pro & amateur debunkers, I'm willing to wager that science (for the most part) isn't "ready" to take this seriously.

@cjo2012 Ай бұрын

Albert Brooks is now an essayist? 🥴🤔

@TinaML Ай бұрын

in 2 - 4 years the sceptics mind will bend and eat a humble pie

@thexen3120 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@thexen3120 Ай бұрын

Instantly lost me and any credibility with clairvoyance 😂

@AlwayslookingNeverlookedfor Ай бұрын

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@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858 Ай бұрын

See _The Law of One Ra Material_ Trust me on this one I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of your presentation.

@SchibbiSchibbi 26 күн бұрын

I wish Alex would organize his thoughts. Every interview is the same. Whether in Spanish or English. He drifts completely off, adding example after example, creating long sentence, by the time he finishes his explanation you forgot what the question was … so confusing. Too intelligent too complex maybe.