Retro Ups & Downs: WWE Backlash 2004

Our retro review of WWE Backlash 2004 including Mick Foley vs Randy Orton, Chris Benoit vs Shawn Michaels vs Triple H in a WrestleMania 20 rematch, Chris Jericho vs Christian and Trish Stratus and much more.
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[@HowGoodIsIt1]

Simon miller is just the fucking man, give him a golden up

[@trewilliams8411]

Dude Simon sucks 🤣

[@paulieswalnut]

@@trewilliams8411 Simon is goodness. You need to bathe in the golden shower that is Simon Mollurrrrrrrrrrr.

[@DJDoubleCee]

The hardcore match between Randy Orton and Mick Foley is what I remember most about this PPV. It was the first time I’ve seen someone other than Foley take a thumbtack bump.

[@y2jfan462]

I thought that was Christian in the thumbnail.

[@ananyaraizada7657]

Was it a raw PPV?????

[@epicgb]

Orton had too much flesh on show lol

[@Caldaman]

Seriously considering a Simon Miller T-Shirt appreciation society.... Bloody loved SuperTed

[@coachbubba5107]

My favorite is the one where it says "If you find me dead at the gym, add more weights and call the cops"

[@ashishtahelyani3135]

C'mon man, now you gotta do Mania XX... That celebration at the end is a surefire golden up

[@MarkSmith-ub4hq]

Can’t see Simon giving Benoit a golden up

[@michaeldennistooley4271]

@@MarkSmith-ub4hq I'm sure it'll go to Guerrero and angle

[@mistermalaprop]

He did already

[@ashishtahelyani3135]

@@mistermalaprop yeah I know. My comment is from 11 months ago

[@jeffdeming8811]

Ya know.. it is okay to appreciate Benoits in ring work. He may be a complete monster in his real life bullshit he did, but he was still a hell of a talented wrestler

[@michaelsinger4638]

Mick has said that the match with Randy is the total one he’s most proud of in his career.

[@alexfarrell3250]

Seems like Mick enjoyed putting younger talent over moreso than he enjoyed getting himself over. He was always willing to help

[@louiecaravana420]

Love this match but i really love his match vs shawn Michaels

[@demitryusmartinez8698]

Thought it was his WrestleMania match with edge cause he had never had a "WrestleMania moment"

[@charlesbloor2869]

Mick helping get the legend killer character over was awesome and it helped lead to Orton VS Undertaker. That was an amazing feud and their Hell in a Cell match is one of my absolute favorites.

[@Wildberryjamband]

20:20 - Simon mentions the unusually long Sharpshooter here. The longest Sharpshooter ever was when Bret was disqualified at Summerslam 1993 after a 3-minute Sharpshooter to Jerry Lawler. At Wrestlemania 12, Bret had Shawn in the hold for the last 45 seconds of the Iron Man match. The Rock has the worst Sharpshooters, that put no pressure on the opponent at all haha

[@stumorrison4297]

The Rock is one of the WORSE IN RING Wrestlers ever! Goofy shit when he's in there hahahaha. Love your comment!

[@RaghavanN]

Admit it,Only the wrestlers from the Hart Dungeon have the best sharpshooters.

[@MrTreyshawn22]

@@stumorrison4297 wrong flat out wrong

[@knightwagner]

I think a really great episode could be the episode of Raw with the debut of the Nexus. So much to talk about, that group was so mishandled after an incredible first night laying waste to Cena, Bryan being fired, the ring being torn apart, etc.

[@CyborgWolf]

I was actually wondering if I missed the retro ups & down from Friday. Thanks for the video Simon

[@MarkSmith-ub4hq]

They’ve moved it to Sunday, cause of impact ups and downs, Simon mentioned it before

[@kingdomofrot2046]

I was at this event! The Mick Foley/Randy Orton match is burned into my memory forever.

[@anthonygunson7816]

I’d love to see Halloween Havoc 1995 next. The appearance of the yettay and the terrible monster truck battle where the giant is thrown off a building and then reappears 20 minutes later absolutely fine. Made me feel all bad in my tum tum.

[@CyberDMoney]

Wrestlemania 22: the infamous mickie james/trish stratus match, mick foley/edge, rvd wins briefcase and michaels/mcmahon

[@TheNinjaStory]

Let's do some golden era shows, like Wrestlemania 3, or 6, or if we want Simon to suffer, Wrestlemania 9. You know what, I suggest Wrestlemania 9.

[@josephpatti2835]

Wrestlemania 5 it's awesome plus a young Donald Trump and family are sitting front row his kids were toddlers some matches I was just watching them interact instead of match.

[@mazenmohsen7446]

The wresltmania in this Time is so fucking bad

[@ozzy920c]

Up and downs Collision in Korea (that PPV held in North Korea)

[@ciarantreacy7721]

Yes!!

[@aaronlusanko6356]

Wasn't that WCW in 1995?

[@toddzombie8777]

@@aaronlusanko6356 there's a thing called Google where you can get the answer to that.

[@aaronlusanko6356]

@@toddzombie8777 yes, duh, I know about Google. Since someone brought it up, I thought I would ask them. It's called making conversation you walking freezer unit.

[@QAZ-OMEN]

Thanks for atleast mentioning the beniot segment. He shouldn't be erased from history

[@jesserice7777]

(Even though it's hard to watch him.)

[@catseyereflex6774]

Hard to watch him without remembering the bad stuff...

[@stevenmacaulay8807]

@@catseyereflex6774 it's all about separating the character from the actual person. Just like taker isnt actually a magically zombie.

[@catseyereflex6774]

@@stevenmacaulay8807 Yeah.. But seeing taker makes me think of a decent old dude.. See Benoit makes me think of a murderer who strangled his son barehanded and choked his wife with a chain..Kayfabe can only go so far...

[@rossclutterbuck1060]

@@catseyereflex6774 that's not what happened, and frankly its disgusting that people just superficially reduce the entire tragedy down to "Benoit is a murderer".

[@Bonesaw_McGraw]

Starcade 97 Hollywood vs Sting.

[@desmondjerome3576]

Backlash 2000, ties in with the Backlash theme and Austin’s return/Rock winning the belt never gets old

[@skinnylegsjoetex]

Just rewatched this ppv recently, it’s a great show. Would love to see Simon cover it

[@person-zu1fh]

I will go watch this PPV now.

[@numero1superfly393]

How about Wrestlemania 18? I kinda want Simon to review this show now.

[@kidvillain188]

Even though the main event was great whenever someone brings up Backlash 2004 I think of Orton vs Foley immediately.

[@DatBoi_Raheem]

Yeah, same here.

[@barnabekapena3530]

Canadians: (super kind, and apologise for everything) Also Canadians: (cheer every wrestling heel)

[@ultimakewl]

because they understand the heels arent bad people, theyre just going through some stuff and could really use the support and positive reinforcement

[@stumorrison4297]

That is SO true hahahaha.

[@stumorrison4297]

We PUT OVER The rock when everyone was chanting "Die Rocky Die"

[@Mannyswack]

This was the first wrestling event I ever went to, such a feel good moment when Chris one in his hometown.

[@MirkoBalda]

Highest rated ECW on TNN episode. We did RAW, Smackdown and Nitro. Let's get extreme

[@oliverthomas-couch]

TNA Destination X 2008 so Simon can watch Shark boy and Curry man vs 3D as well as Samoa Joe, Christian and Nash vs Angle, Styles and Tomko

[@kissfan003]

Simon is the only cat on earth who should do wrestling vids on you tube. What a talent!

[@Josh_J91]

Yeah you havent watched 'wrestling with regret'

[@Jac_Supernova23]

Suggestion: TNA Impact! - April 19, 2010 The night RVD beat both Jeff Hardy and AJ Styles in separate matches to become TNA World Heavyweight Champion

[@Reacher85]

WWE Badd Blood 2004 Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H (Hell in a Cell)

[@SCOBigMike666]

Lol Simon's knife comment in the triple threat match had me in giggles 😂

[@bradleybrandl181]

The November 29th 1999 episode of Monday night Raw. The wedding of the century between Stephanie McMahon and Andrew Martin aka Test.

[@michaelgoodwin80]

Test was sweating like it was his real wedding! 😂😂

[@ramonbillups5812]

NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 10 I don't know if you did this one but its one of the best ppv ever

[@stumorrison4297]

I didn't know so I am going to go watch it now. thank you for the suggestion!

[@jamesregina804]

The pay per view that got me hooked into the crazy world of wrestling. Picked up the the dvd from a GameStop in 2008 when I was in Third grade and I haven’t stopped watching since.

[@tiberius1837]

That SuperTed shirt. Now THAT is a cartoon I haven't even THOUGHT about in over 30 years... 😂

[@Bonesaw_McGraw]

Halloween Havoc 95 monster truck match.

[@Josh_J91]

The match with orton and foley is one of the best hardcore matches ever

[@StoveToTheFace]

I love how two things from video are totally relevant now. 1 Chris calling himself a sports entertainer now as JAS and Regal in AEW being amazing as always

[@philipdavies5195]

Foley v Orton match is in my personal top 5 favs of all time.

[@Josh_J91]

💙💙💙

[@coachbubba5107]

Please review TNA Final Resolution 2007 for some Samoa Joe awesomeness. Plus Christian Cage was there, so that would be an added bonus.

[@mauricechristophermyers3218]

I would love to see on Retro ups and downs 1997 ECW "Barely Legal." I do agree with your opinion on the matches on 2004 Backlash except I do remember the Jonathan Coachman match but it is not worse than the Michael Cole wrestling matches 😊

[@RedHoodFH]

The fact that orton kept some of those tacks goes to show what I meant to him

[@philipdavies5195]

Please do ANY ECW PPV of Simone choice. Thank you

[@roggie839]

Orton vs Foley is one of my favorite street fights in WWE history. Both of these worked well together and told an amazing story.

[@imjusthere750]

If you need a reminder how over Eugene was just look up Eugene in the Kurt Angle invitational.

[@beardovibe7959]

I was at this event. The crowd was way crazier then Simon suggests

[@mauriciocayetano7745]

2016 Money in the Bank: All 3 members of the shield hold the WWE title

[@greathirteen13]

I had to pause this video, because I couldn’t stop laughing at him calling the Finger Of Power the FOP.

[@QAZ-OMEN]

Eugene was definitely a controversial character but he was extremely entertaining in wwe. I mean that with as much respect as possible

[@TJDious]

Eugene was too dumb to be controversial. The character concept.

[@pdpyoshi]

I remember being there live. Benoit in Edmonton was about as over as it gets

[@aarontaylor5414]

The first Nitro and Raw to go head to head would be a good one to retro Up & Down

[@LVSignChick]

One point in the main event that still catches me: Shawn Michaels has a moment where he is alone in the ring, and the fan vitriol was so loud that he seems almost distracted-but you can then see his call for Benoit to do something to him to get the crowd where it needs to be...I almost have to watch this match with the audio off...

[@XLgameBRO]

Ruthless Aggression era wwe was tough. A lot of underrated gems from 2002 to 2007

[@Kyle_Buxton]

I remember I won tickets to this event when I was like 10 years old from a radio station.

[@bradvestby]

I was at this pay per view live, and the crowd really was going nuts for Flair that night!! Woooooo!

[@raheemwest8113]

Wrestlemania 20 when eddie Guerrero surprised Kurt Angle with the roll up

[@davidswentnickas7595]

The main event triple threat and cactus v Orton are two of my all-time favorite matches

[@tamzidmohsinkhan3333]

Mick Foley vs Randy Orton feud was underrated . This was when Mick did passed the torch to Orton

[@jaylanphillips7045]

Mick Foley passed the torch to a lot of people

[@musasilas5848]

Jaylan Phillips haha

[@Biggucci97]

I was a kid when this ppv happened. And even then I thought it was stupid for randy to attempt RKO on thumb tacks 😭. Even if he hit it he still would be hurt worse

[@oliverpearman7558]

Left field idea: the 11th July 1994 episode of Monday Night Raw. Had a brilliant match between Bret Hart and the 123 Kid for the WWE Title, plus several segments that would be perfect for the Miller treatment. Even if it doesn’t get voted, Simon should still watch it, it’s less than an hour long but worth it for that Hart v Kid match alone

[@knightshousegames]

It's funny, everyone talks about Orton vs Foley, which I thought was good (though the visual of Randy absolutely COVERED in thumbtacks still creeps me out), The match I remember is the Triple Threat, I remember loving that match as a kid. Also, I just remember the build up package before it was SO good, the part where they recapped the Wrestlemania match just feels so epic.

[@NehaGupta-fe4dw]

Suggestion : Judgement Day 2000 . The rock vs triple h in a 1 hr long iron man match

[@Naruto0s44]

I fucking hated that ending

[@Naruto0s44]

Stupid taker ruined a great match btw rock and hhh, I expected dx to try and help hhh but I did not expect taker to come back here

[@gorgusan]

WRESTLEMANIA X WRESTLEMANIA X WRESTLEMANIA X

[@kennycai8695]

About the main event: the spot where Michaels tapped out to the Sharpshooter WAS part of the symbolic apology to Bret Hart over the Montreal Screwjob. The fact that Michaels was kept locked in for over a minute, and had to sell the pain, I think that was deliberate. Not only did the event take place in Edmonton (a 3 hour-ish drive away from Calgary, where the Harts are based out of), a former Hart Dungeon alumni that won the match, and putting the one guy who benefitted the most in excruciating pain, all these was part of the long goal to make amends with Bret Hart. Bret himself would reciprocate the gesture by accepting the WWE Hall of Fame nomination in 2005, but it would not be till 2010 when Bret actually returned to WWE TV and finally put the events of the Montreal Screwjob behind him. Hart would finally make peace with Michaels, and while the match at WrestleMania that year was dreadful due to Hart's physical condition, the 12 chair shots delivered to the back of Mr McMahon was the definite closure to this book once and for all.

[@donovankellogg8235]

Awesome guys loved this ppv as a kid

[@lolmanrofl3]

Royal rumble 2002 where maven gets obliterated and HHH comes back.

[@alextorres4415]

Smackdown October 26, 1999. The only smackdown taping they ever had in my hometown and also cause my stepfather who hated (and still hates wrestling) surprised me with a ticket

[@anthonyperkins1668]

No Way Out 2003- the birth of Hollywood Rock

[@Naruto0s44]

Hell yeah

[@travismiller4320]

Maybe, but I was at a Smackdown taping in Green Bay Wisconsin that year, and The Rock appeared via video and said he wasn’t coming to Green Bay because it was too cold. And I thorough to myself, “I think they are going to try and turn him heel”

[@EliteNeko420]

Mick knew exactly what he was doing Randy is still a huge star

[@davidfitzpatrick4254]

17:10 also Edge wasn't reconisge as a Canadian during his first WWE run because Vince thought there were too many Canadians. So Jericho and Edge were said to be American when they're actually Canadian (although CHris is both technically as he was born in New York and then moved to Winnipeg as a kid due to his father being a pro hockey player)

[@benjaminbrown1620]

I was in the crowd that day. 17 years ago today. I feel like Simon personally gave me like 4 thumbs down.

[@dbone3356]

Speaking of Backlash... The 2021 version is in a little over a week and there are 3 matches announced so far... Clearly it's an important show.

[@irishbear660]

Can we FINALLY do a recap show about a show not during the attitude era or the aggression era?

[@alicod7160]

Watch chamber 14 SS 13 mania 30 and perhaps more

[@thewick4313]

It is called retro ups and downs not new or current day ups and downs.

[@patrick71704]

ECW November to Remember 1997 let’s see some ECW

[@gaurangpatankar164]

Please next time in retro the raw from canada from 2005 where hbk vs hogan was getting built up and breat hearts music hits

[@canuckj8382]

This was the first and only time (so far) the WWE did ppv in Edmonton, maybe that’s part of why the fans were so weird with their reactions, they probably would reacted more had WWE found a way to get one of the oilers NHL players to get involved at some point. As far as the next retro up and downs how about a summerslam from the early 90’s? Like really old school and do 91 or 92? I’m sure at least the Bret hart match from either of those shows would get an up

[@jakeshepard9292]

The "fop" made me laugh. Simon, never change.

[@christianwilson3349]

TNA Turning Point 2009 a.k.a the show where Aj Styles Vs Christopher Daniels Vs Samoa Joe #3 took place and the TNA PPV debut of Nigel Mcguinness as he took on Kurt Angle

[@TJDious]

The problem with the Victoria/Lita match was that they had the novel idea of "how about we put two women out there who can actually work" without giving them any kind of build.

[@Lorenzo3K]

You mean kinda how they do today?

[@TJDious]

@@Lorenzo3K No. Nothing like that.

[@Lorenzo3K]

@@TJDious you sure? I swear they Sheamus and Matt Riddle together for no reason. The being really good was really all that kept people from shitting on It.

[@andyketchum921]

Backlash 2001. Brothers of Destruction vs 2 Man Power Trip. All the belts r on the line in that one match.

[@alexfarrell3250]

Most confusing stipulation. If Kane and Taker had won the match which one would've gotten which title?

[@sahal3240]

Wrestmain X8 rock Vs Hogan

[@battlemole8233]

Did you get a stroke?

[@Bantassssuuuiiii]

You are awesome!!! You made me start my own channel and videos. Thanks for that

[@johnprewitt9358]

If I don’t see a ECW Heatwave ‘98 retro ups and downs vid imma riot.

[@bradleycombs2626]

The glory days of my wwe interest. Just started watching around the time of this.

[@DariusWeedenTv]

Simon, you are an Omega level YT reviewer

[@RaghavanN]

The best main event in WrestleMania history got a Part 2 here.The hardcore match between Foley and Orton is another classic and the best way to have ended their long term fued back then.For the next Retro Ups and Downs let us have WrestleMania 20.

[@absolyoursoul725]

You should do retro ups and downs for the first ever wwe draft

[@twistedvincent3544]

I can't wait to see the inevitable Chris vs Christian on AEW. WCW Bash at the Beach 1996. Formation of the NWO. The heat they got/crowd reaction was unsurpassed in wrestling at the time.

[@toddzombie8777]

He's done Bash at the Beach 96 already 🤦‍♂️

[@embrown1117]

Michaels is also wearing the same gear as the Screwjob

[@ericavelendas8820]

Please do the tna lockdown Ppv the one with Elix skipper doing that tightrope hurricanrana

[@Naruto0s44]

Its crazy how orton got over in 04 until hhh buried him smh

[@stumorrison4297]

Breakdown In Your House 1998 Owen Hart Vs. Edge, Stone Cold V Undertaker V Kane, STEEL CAGE the rock V Ken Shamrock V Mankind

[@sethkaplan]

Do fully loaded 1999

[@hypobonix]

I nominate Survivor Series 2003

[@d0natr0n47]

Whilst the rest of video is great as always I'm mainly giving this one a like for the Superted Tee

[@paulytfromgc]

I like when Simon gives what he thinks the ratings should be for the matches. Interesting to compare what he and Dave think.

[@diz5425]

Simon, I'm autistic and I love the Eugene character. Stop taking offence on behalf of others who neither ask for or need you to. Stick to giving ups and downs, that's what you excel at.

[@NewfieMan98]

As someone with Autism myself, I love Eugene. I would search for his matches on KZbin back in 2012 and find barely anything. Up for Eugene

[@chunkyboyjames]

TNA Victory Road 2011. The Jeff Hardy/Sting incident.

[@DigitalStains]

That T-shirt is amazing

[@OmarAli-gp3yl]

ECW one night stand 2006 next

[@FigWidIt]

The Super Ted t shirt. What a throwback 😂

[@calvinalston685]

Wow one of my pick actually won. I’m impressed 💪🏽