Phase 2 Enterprise VS USS Reliant - Both Ways

Phase 2 Enterprise VS USS Reliant - Both Ways - Star Trek Starship Battles

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@TheCormTube 5 ай бұрын

"Warp! Warp!... engineering...why can't we warp!?" "Erm....the whole of engineering is gone sir....including the warp core....."

@martinbuhlmeier3138 5 ай бұрын

Funny Time 🤣!

@IceGavel 5 ай бұрын

I mean, with how badly damaged the starboard nacelle was, I'm willing to bet warp drive was out.

@martinbuhlmeier3138 5 ай бұрын

@@IceGavel 🤣

@MisterMarin 5 ай бұрын

4:01 "They keep showing me their stronger shield..." You could learn something from them. 😉

@logicplague 5 ай бұрын

"I was gonna warp away and conduct repairs" Secondary hull: Dude...I couldn't be saved by Jesus.

@pyronuke4768 5 ай бұрын

That and you flew right into the forward torpedo tubes' sights.

@pyronuke4768 5 ай бұрын

Phase II actually got decently far into preproduction before canceling. Most of the season's episodes had already been scripted, the sets were under construction, and even some test screenings had been filmed. But then Star Wars came out and Paramount wanted a big Sci-Fi film to rival it, so the pilot episode was given a cinema level budget and became the first movie. And if you're still bummed out Phase II never happened, it lives on in a sense that many of those episode scripts I mentioned earlier got some tweaks and became TNG episodes.

@teamdoghouse82880 5 ай бұрын

I love playing this game strategically. And by that, I mean targeting and disabling the enemy vessel's subsystems. Being able to do that is one of the things that makes bridge Commander and amazing capital ship combat simulator. In my humble opinion.

@bryceprisbrey1245 Ай бұрын

I wish the game studio would make a bridge commander 2 with modern personal computers in mind. Maybe someone could get a team of volunteers together and use epics unreal engine 5.5 or star citizens star engine it's a heavily modified cry engine.

@larqven0192 5 ай бұрын

Love the Miranda! There're reasons why it stuck around for a VERY long time! Despite the poor showing, I'm really glad to see the Phase II Enterprise! It looks great! I like to imagine that some sort of Phase II happened between TOS and The Motion Picture. It would have most everyone ageing appropriately, the technology jump of the refit Enterprise would have been somewhat easier to believe and so on.

@GregoryMCMAHON817 5 ай бұрын

I really enjoy this Star Trek Starship Battles.

@chrismills2439 5 ай бұрын

miranda class was an attack ship in its hey day, the constitution class was a heavy cruiser back in its hey day. even with upgraded tech, the constitution would still have been no contest against the miranda. the constitution would have faded away and the miranda even not in its original mission profile lasted for a century or so along side the Excelsior class. And still both classes had their warp cores handed to them at the dominion war

@wwclay86 5 ай бұрын

Attack ship? Let's try frigate..

@chrismills2439 5 ай бұрын

@@wwclay86 that is an attack ship. so are Destroyers as are cruisers and dreadnoughts. The Miranda class was a more maneuverable and armed attack ship than the aging Constitution class. Even with todays military hardware,, you can only do so much with something before it has to be replaced with something newer. For instance the ww2 sherman tank, you could not put the m1 abram's main gun on it and safely fire it without damaging the turret as everything on said sherman tank would have to be reinforced. it would be easier to use a new tank. Which is also why I said even when its not in its original mission profile ( attack ship) it lasted a century alongside the Excelsior refits and they still both had their warp cores handed to them in the dominion war.

@wwclay86 2 ай бұрын

@@chrismills2439 Starfleet doesn't use that term, just like the US Navy doesn't either

@Renserin 5 ай бұрын

This should quite the people who always point out that any Miranda Class starship is always the first to get destroyed.

@RobBreckenridge 5 ай бұрын

I believe that the Miranda Class is a precursor to the Defiant Class. The two have practically the same luck when it comes to survivability. Granted the Defiant is smaller than the Miranda but they both are underdogs when the time comes. The worst thing is that the Miranda Class was originally classified as a research class vessel.

@beh.r_co-mando.1374 5 ай бұрын

WHAT. That is a crazy comparison. That's probably even Star Trek heresy. You see Defiant class ships get roughed up like, two times, on screen. The Valiant, and the original Defiant. The Miranda on the other hand was only badass in The Wrath of Khan. Every other time we see it, it's getting pulverized. By FRIEND and FOE. There is no way that the Miranda is a precursor, I will die on this hill. There is no way you just compared the two. That's actually crazy.

@RobBreckenridge 5 ай бұрын

@@beh.r_co-mando.1374 You think I'm reaching here. Yes I know the Reliant was only seen in the movies. The Defiant in DS9. YES Khan used access codes to disable the Enterprise. What you are failing to see is the Reliants weaponry in relation to the Defiants weaponry. The Reliant uses a Precursor of the Defiants Gatling Phasers. These are mounted on either side of the Photon bay Above the main hull. It has a greater rate of fire the Gatling Phasers of the Defiant. The Miranda Class was Categorized as a research/ science class vessel. Are you that Naive to not think that maybe the Reliant was a test bed for such innovations that the Defiant used? How do you think stealth tech started and where do you think it started? Look up the SR71 Black Bird. A US spy plane used in the Cold war. It's not a stretch to follow. Definitely not Hairacy I'm using logic and I am using what history has shown us not just in the Star Trek universe but in reality. Granted there is a lot of fiction in Star Trek but there is even more science and commonality with current technology we use this day and age. The idea of a Gatling weapon was first thought of back in the US civil wars era. So please rethink your comments before you go to calling the kettle black.

@6XGate 4 ай бұрын

@@beh.r_co-mando.1374 In it's peak the Miranda was actually more of a battleship than the Connie. It was actually larger (this has been mathematically proven by another KZbinr) and those damn rollbar phasers are not to be trifled with. Granted by TNG, DS9, and VOY, even updated they were nothing compared to the Defiant, but they have alot in common. High powered main pulse weapons, compact layout (yes the Miranda has smaller bounding box dimensions, but had more volume than the Connie), and built in a time when Starfleet had a more military focus.

@beh.r_co-mando.1374 4 ай бұрын

@6XGate Where did I question the size of the Miranda? Such a weird tangent to ramble on about when I said nothing about it. I could really care less if the Miranda was "powerful." So was the Enterprise, and it handed the Reliant the Reliant's own ass, and that for me settles the debate between the two. What's with this weird fetish where everyone has their own headcanon and it has to be right despite what is said and portrayed on the shows/movies? Mirandas are never referred to as "battleships" or "warships." I'll bet that Trek refers to them as "cruisers" only once or twice even. Every other time, they're referred to as science or patrol vessels. My main point was that the Miranda is a nice looking shitbucket, while the Defiant is a true warship that was destroyed honorably in even combat. Do you think that a Miranda would have stood up to a Jem'Hadar dreadnought the way that the Valiant did? No fucking chance. It would have been blown out of the fucking sky in the first volley. The Defiant is nothing like the Miranda. And I'm not saying that the Miranda doesn't have a place, I'm simply saying that you can not trace the lineage of the Defiant class ship back to the Miranda. They're two DIFFERENT types of ships, one science and one warship. Plus, it's never stated in DS9 that the Miranda is a predecessor. Case closed in my book.

@andrewdillon3520 5 ай бұрын

Time to use # 16309.

@trazyntheinfinite9895 5 ай бұрын

Trivia: the reason the phasers looked the way they did in Kahn was, that the beam was deemed uncinematic in terms of Impact, in an Audio Visual and Dramatic sense. They first had Kahns ship "rake" a beam over the enterprise. It was really hard to set that up into a dramatic scene. They changed it to several individual impacts. Akin to a series of Hammer blows coming down.

@RetroBadgerGaming 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info 🖖

@MAZE4 5 ай бұрын

I always thought that the Miranda classes ' roll bar weapons pod would've been enough to destroy a constitution class ship.

@brutalchicken 2 ай бұрын

3:13 The Reliant looks kinda cool upside down... Someone flipped the NX-01 to create the Akira. Maybe we can flip a Miranda and get a new class out of it?

@TJBowman-vr1co 5 ай бұрын

And they surrender... *boom!*

@UnknownUzer 5 ай бұрын

I'd love to see a Delta Flyer vs Runabout match up, to see which is the best large multi-mission shuttle design.

@josephpatterson985 4 ай бұрын

I don't know how accurate it is, but I read in a forum years ago that originally they wanted to use the Phase II model for the Reliant (which tracks with the film's budget-saving measures like the use of stock footage and one of the early scripts describing the Reliant as being like an older Enterprise of a different configuration), so that makes this battle a metaphor for creative choices. And the secondary hull of the Phase 2 model eventually was used for the final self-destructed Enterprise model in Star Trek 3, where it managed to look better than its counterpart in your video after the Reliant finished with it.

@Techrat3D 5 ай бұрын

1:22 - Motion Picture Enterprise never used Phasers. They only fired a single Photon Torpedo. The Phasers weren't used until Wrath of Khan. 😉

@TheCormTube 5 ай бұрын

I guess we all assumed they had the same pulse phasers they did in Wrath of Khan but I guess they could have had this style then 🤷‍♂️

@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 5 ай бұрын

And never after TWOK after oddly enough.

@jamriki 5 ай бұрын

They almost did though! But then... b-e-l-a-y t-h-a-t p-h-a-s-e-r o-r-d-e-r!

@haroldchase4120 5 ай бұрын

Frankly the Miranda is op . People assume they are stronger because Kirk got hit with his shields down at point blank range

@martinbuhlmeier3138 5 ай бұрын

Funny Time 🤣with a good Battle 🚀🛸in Starsky 🌠. Video is 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟.

@RetroBadgerGaming 5 ай бұрын

Thanks 🖖

@martinbuhlmeier3138 5 ай бұрын

@@RetroBadgerGamingyou channel is best by funny Star Trek - battles! Live long and in happy 😂🖖!

@bryceprisbrey1245 Ай бұрын

Love watching your videos haven't played Bc in over 7 years. You could of beat that reliant by watching your shield arcs a little closer & going for their sensor sub system. It would be interesting if you could edit the script on that ship and put the phase II phasers to the same damage levels as the ent A and maybe gave it the same torpedoes as the reliant.

@TrentonBennett 5 ай бұрын

Yeah the Phase 2 Enterprise was supposed to be a TV series and the Phase 2 is a refit of the TOS E but not an actual refit that we actually got. I agree it’s not as powerful as the actual Refit. I agree the Reliant was major superior.

@stevelapierre4776 5 ай бұрын

🤔Gosh Admiral.. I never heard of Phase 2, went and looked it up, oh, wow. surprising, Kirk and Spock would have been replaced... hmm I like the Phase 2 Enterprise, looks the part, and love the colors of phasers and torpedoes, but the Reliant, I have that model, after seeing the movies (took my time with this one and Ent D) and here I noticed, the ships jolt when hit by torpedoes.. nice, and eeh yes the whole engineering was gone, ouch.. gosh. wonder if it would have went to warp.. but lol I heard Brex freak out and well.. lol and second round, saucer separation.. oh my.. lol. eeh.. This was a wicked battle Admiral. 😊🖖

@RetroBadgerGaming 5 ай бұрын

It is a nice looking ship. Almost like an alternate reality really. Oh, you're so lucky to have ship models. I kind of missed the boat on that, as Eaglemoss has now gone. I am tempted to get the Corgi Enterprise D. Although it doesn't look a 100% accurate. Hmmm, I wonder if that was why it wouldn't go to warp. I guess engineering is important 🤣. Thanks Steve 🖖

@stevelapierre4776 5 ай бұрын

@@RetroBadgerGaming Yes it does like like another timeline ship, but still nice though and I found many things Star Trek and would send you something but I have no adresse lol.. Yes, if Scotty or engineering not there, hmm oh gosh, but it almost went to warp but kaboom, eeh 😂🖖

@stevelapierre4776 5 ай бұрын

@@RetroBadgerGaming I just had a thought, seen many videos and making things with a 3D printer, gosh, if I knew a person that has one, would have the models made and would cost less. hmm!!!🖖

@s.patrickmarino7289 5 ай бұрын

Is it saucer separation when you just blow up everything that's not the saucer? It's not as if you even had a few scraps leftover.

@scott3002 5 ай бұрын

It's simple, change your torpedo color to rainbow and all types are covered with each shot. (Works for phasers as well 👍)

@jeffcullifer5629 5 ай бұрын

Perhaps the Enterprise wasn't RELIANT on winning...😆

@martinbuhlmeier3138 5 ай бұрын

😂

@RetroBadgerGaming 5 ай бұрын

🤣🤣

@martinbuhlmeier3138 5 ай бұрын

@@RetroBadgerGamingmuch thank to back🤗🖖.

@Scitch87 2 ай бұрын

6:05 Retro-Badger: "What the heck?" Phase2: "Not to worry. We are still flying half a ship."

@jamesbarrow904 5 ай бұрын

There may be a way to canonize the Phase 2 Connie by making her a prototype refit for the Constitution refit as the class leader USS Constitution. This experimental design was pressed into service and participated in the Battle of Caleb IV where she was sadly lost due to Starfleet underestimating the capabilities of the Klingons new K'Tinga class battlecruisers. Following this, Starfleet went back to the drawing board to develop an even more powerful refit for the Constitution Class using the USS Enterprise and, well, the rest is history. On that note can we have the Phase 2 vs a K'Tinga?

@JoseMoreira-vo8cu 5 ай бұрын

The Motion Picture was my first reference.

@DojhromTRW 5 ай бұрын

Rematch but go after the weapons pod

@keagenlund928 5 ай бұрын

Can you do the sagen class stargazer vs titan A

@kevinwestrom4775 5 ай бұрын

It's too bad there wasn't an armored Enterprise refit, to better take on more well equipped foes with its weapons.

@Mkav-c8n 5 ай бұрын

FIRE!!!!!

@dannolives 5 ай бұрын

KKKHHHHHHAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNN!

@SiXiam 2 ай бұрын

Makes sense. The Miranda was built as a cheaper way of making a constitution refit ship. Like a 8 cylinder connie vs a v6 turbo Reliant, which is basically the same power but smaller.

@beh.r_co-mando.1374 5 ай бұрын

Hey dude, this is wildly off topic. And I know you'd prefer suggestions from paying members of your channel. But, if you can find the time, do you think you could do a video with Cyanide's MKII Galaxy War Reifit? Frickin' love the look and the versatility of that thing. Anyways, keep doin' what you're doing, dude. Love the vids!

@RetroBadgerGaming 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for your kind words! I don't have paid members on this channel at all. Everything is free and always will be. I treat every request equally :-). I did some videos in the past for a few people, but that's not fair on everyone else. I've added your request to the list.

@beh.r_co-mando.1374 5 ай бұрын

@RetroBadgerGaming Oh, word. I thought you did. My bad! Thanks, man!

@fedricojgarza464 5 ай бұрын

No warp for you 😮🎉

@MisterMarin 5 ай бұрын

Come back one light year!

@RetroBadgerGaming 5 ай бұрын

@MisterMarin NEXT!

@MisterMarin 5 ай бұрын

@@RetroBadgerGaming Warp Nazi. 😆

@deepdivedylan 5 ай бұрын

1:12 so what you're saying is that they're better than phase 1 and not quite phase 2? It's a good job that the Starfleet Corp of Engineers works in phases!

@RetroBadgerGaming 5 ай бұрын

😂😂 Mwhahaha! I've become so Reliant on this jokes.

@Adarkane325xi Ай бұрын

@4:13 Ha, damage to the Engineering section - deja vu. This is the Phase 2 Enterprise? I saw some preliminary sketches of designs that were quite - err, ugly - including a design they used for the Discovery. Correct me if i’m wrong.

@KYPT0KNIGHT 2 ай бұрын

Did you ever do phase 2 enterprise vs refit?

@ralfhtg1056 23 күн бұрын

I really like those blue phasers. I wished, ST would have kept them for TNG and all other shows as well.

@mosser-wm3dx 5 ай бұрын

Hey man, legit offer. Been playing this game for what I'm guessing is over a decade easy. Would love to match modsets and try some verses, never once in all this time have I ever faced a human opponent in this game. Throwin my bottle, would love to give you a real fight in some of these matchups if you're willing.

@anonymuswere 5 ай бұрын

modders have reactivated multiplayer. it is available with the RE version. RB uses a mixture of Remaster and Kobayashi Maru for these vids, but mostly KM.

@BrandoThompson 5 ай бұрын

it's really too bad STO never figured out how to do damage detail like BC and Legacy

@stevegiles9080 5 ай бұрын

What bout the ross class vs enterprise d ?

@UncommonKnowledge587 5 ай бұрын

Phase 2 Enterprise needs a refit and quickly! There are far stronger opponents in space 🖖

@12w5888 Ай бұрын

What if a Borg Fleet invaded Federation space in Captain Archer's Time?

@chrismills2439 5 ай бұрын

ummmm... something else. that came across my mind, I grew up enterprise from the motion picture constitution refit, but I think it would in theory be Constitution Final refit instead of Constitution phase 2 as I do believe phase 2 would have been its 2nd or 3rd gen and Enterprise was first gen and Kirk was told in either 2 or 3 that the enterprise was over 40 years old and each upgraded piece of tech would have been worked into a refit of the already existing ships.