Tablet PCs are Kind of Amazing [MinisForum V3 Review]

The new MinisForum V3 is the world's first AMD tablet, and my first experience testing a Windows tablet PC. Let's go over all of its impressive specs and why it's transformed the way I think about tablets AND laptops.
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Timestamps:
00:00 introduction
02:06 specs and pricing
04:22 comparison with others
07:50 unboxing and impressions
14:30 using it as a laptop
22:03 PC game testing
29:13 emulation testing
34:15 stylus testing
35:14 battery life results
38:01 summary (likes and dislikes)
41:49 conclusion
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[@JohnCruz77]

I watched this entire video without a snack and drink. I was never reminded to grab them!

[@lazyhominid]

So sad.

[@CSHummer]

I only eat and drink when Russ tells me to, I'm wasting away, someone please help

[@diezgp]

Yeah! :(

[@svenreinhart]

Watching multiple videos that are not this henceforth serves as a notarized reminder that certain un-secure liquids and solids exist for more than a hospital cafeteria outside of Peoria. This slablet is mine once the 2 week shipping (accounts for poor weather) and an ability to enjoy the Sega Neptune at 480 frames like it was meant. I do not watch your videos. Please make more. Sven "Soul Calibur II for PSII" OUT!!!!

[@kennymccormick8295]

Your wife wears the pants. Did you ask her boyfriend for permission to get online?

[@alejandrosolano722]

I found this channel researching about the RP4 Pro that I wanted to buy (and already received by the way), but I can’t stop watching the other videos! Great job.

[@trekintosh]

Same story for me but the GPD Win Max 2.

[@EpsilonChurchRVB]

Same for me as well, but with the Odin 2 Pro.

[@7ens3nButt0n]

lol me too i came for the anbernic rg351mp but have watched almost every video since then.

[@mark_midmark]

Similar for a different device, but he's great so I stayed

[@rylaaaaaaa]

same story with me back with the RP3. Bought it thanks to his coverage and now I just kinda watch the rest of his vids

[@holdincourt]

THANK YOU for doing this full review across all the build, specs and comparisons! It's why I love this channel!

[@danielgebert4556]

IMO, every device with a display should have the ability to receive a display-in signal. Far too many devices become old by performance standards but still have wonderful displays that can be useful for years and years afterwards. This is a cool feature to see here.

[@bobbleczar]

You can harvest the display, add a control board and some 3d printing, and voila you have essentially one of those Asus portable displays.

[@danielgebert4556]

@@bobbleczar my understanding is that control boards/driver boards are nontrivial to say the least. Depending on the display being used, it can take weeks or months of trial and error messing with pixel timing and such, especially if it is a display that has little to no documentation or community experience (aka, most). There very well may be an easy way of doing this, but I have not found it to be so simple. Anyone have experiences with arbitrary displays working without much fuss?

[@danh2716]

Agreed. My 11" lenovo tablet has a great oled display, but underpowered chip. It would be nice to have the option to plug my newer phone in sometimes.

[@catsdofunnythings4046]

@@danielgebert4556 not anymore it’s pish easy to do as most screens are reused a lot

[@VladNerd]

OMFG. I'm so glad you got to review it! This tablet seems amazing on all levels, tbh.

[@ElJuandisemo]

Aaaayyyeee!! To testing at a higher resolution!! Just adds to the already great content.

[@hassb6348]

Got the flow z13 for around 1500 from Best Buy with the 4060. It was $330 off. Best tablet ever imo for portable gaming. Something about the top exhaust and ability to throw away the keyboard when you don’t need it that makes it amazing. Super convenient to carry around the house and toss in your bag.

[@squeezydonutz]

On Steam Deck, just hold the home button and you can move a cursor on screen with the right stick. You can click with the right trigger. You don't need the touch screen.

[@ninjason57]

I was literally typing out the comparison to the iPad Pro when your section of comparison came up. It does help put it into perspective. If they had a 10 inch 1080p version for $800-$1000 I'd buy it.

[@mokisan]

Same! $900 for 1080p I would buy it

[@foualter102]

agree with this one, if the.price is like that, i will click that pre order link instantly

[@gavinhouston7067]

Brother has done it again the amount of research you do for your vids is awesome man

[@soccerbeast5529]

I've been running a MinisForum UM773 Lite as my work desktop running Manjaro and have absolutely loved it. It's the second MinisForum mini PC I've owned and can't recommend these enough. Huge fan of MinisForum and cannot wait for my next mini PC upgrade.

[@Mick2936]

Honestly your point at the end of the video on rethinking how you approach laptops and tablets is exactly what I love about you as a reviewer. For me personally, I love tablets having optional keyboards so I can swap them out for my own personal keyboards compared to the ones laptops usually have built in. Only thing holding me back is the smaller screen that comes with owning a tablet, since I’d absolutely buy a 15.6 inch version in a heartbeat even if it’s slightly less portable

[@Dracossaint]

Hear me out here, framework laptop.

[@sqlexp]

I wish the keyboard is optional and the price of tablet-only is cheaper. Those laptop/tablet keyboards are garbage, not to mention the track pads of laptops are also garbage without separate mouse buttons. You know very well that those tablet keyboards are overpriced.

[@dasme8210]

the samsung s8 ultra is close to around that size, but it runs android.

[@phxrider950]

I think at that size I'd want a traditional attached real keyboard like my ROG. Once you get to 15.6", it's big enough that you're not making anything worse by having the typical permanent clamshell.

[@Mick2936]

@@phxrider950 I’d say the clearance is the main reason why I’d like that size point. Having a clean monitor that doubles as a tablet/laptop is a valuable niche at around that size range, but for sure normal laptops around that size would give you a better bang for your buck realistically!

[@Roko-jb5hl]

It’s so expensive, but video-in a killer feature that tablets and laptops SHOULD have! That makes we want to support it. Maybe $999 I could pull the trigger, but not $1200, and certainly not $1500.

[@Roko-jb5hl]

One important note: when using it for DEX or something similar, you cannot control it with touch. As shown by Techtablets KZbin channel.

[@fauzanmuharram4202]

when you compare with surface pro 9, you will know v3 have good price :)

[@MarkTengPhoto]

Agree about the pricing. Many times I almost wanted to pull the trigger on Minisforum mini PCs and even this tablet, but the sticker price (even at the discount) held me back. And the full price is just out there.

[@drifter4training]

havent seen that since alienware used to have that back in early 2010s

[@foualter102]

agree about the pricing... Its the one that prevents me from purchasing that one

[@shawnhu]

really detailed review, impressive👍

[@IOSALive]

Retro Game Corps, Subscribed because your content is fantastic!

[@DJIsher1]

I’ve been waiting for the presale of this device to go up. I’ve been waiting to get this for my mother as she’s an avid tablet user (iPad) but she wishes she had a “computer” meaning something with windows. Especially something with an SD card slot for photos and such. Although she likely wont take full advantage of every feature on offer for this thing. I think the device will definitely fit her use cases and it will last her a good while. Thanks for the review.

[@traveler_vii]

Excellent review! It seems that MinisForum has found a sweet spot in the portable PC gaming space. I'll be looking into this when I have the cash 🙂

[@gametestforreference8279]

Nice review,thanks for this.

[@fmulleady]

The best review I've seen on this device. Thorough & authentic.

[@christianr.5868]

This thing is exactly what i was looking for. Can game decently and has pen support for my art, in a tablet form factor

[@supermorenito]

Wow, I didn't know this type of product existed. Next time I buy a gaming pc I'll give minisforum a try, your review was very helpful

[@theshepard22]

Awesome vid that switches it up! I'd love to see a Trim UI smart pro follow up video with newer firmware/ different OS options/ emulation deep dive into what it can do- FOR 60 bucks 5 inch 720p screen, wifi (retro achievements), bluetooth, rgb stick lighting, daaaannng. I've been ordering some materials to make my own hand grip for it based off of an aliexpress ps vita grip. just needs a little extra padding I think, and it should hold it. Might need to do some cutting and super gluing in 1 or 2 spots though (where it's held) because it's actually a few mm thicker where the plastic part of the grip is holding the console down over the top of it.

[@AlexanderZinzer]

Been watching this device since the October 2023 tease. Besides battery life concerns, it fits a specific niche: 1) 12"+ touchscreen suitable for PDFs. 2) Windows for running VTTs (like Foundry). 3) Display input to act as an additional monitor when using a separate desktop. Seems like a great option for hybrid TTRPG gaming on the go (tablet), while still serving a purpose at home (monitor).

[@dreadlord9257]

@Retro Game Corps Have you taken a look at the Samsung S9 tablet? My understanding is that it is using the snapdragon gen 2 same as the Odin 2 which you reviewed favorably. I'm wondering how those two compare (active cooling on handheld vs. passive on tablet) either from the get-go or prolonged use. Still it might fill that niche use-case you mention. This solution is fairly expensive. It is also heavy(ish) if for example you are using it as a tablet and not propped up on a desk.

[@moralreality7328]

I have the s8 ultra. Its a great tablet. Light emulation up to about ps2 or gamecube as well as 4k KZbin playback. Best tablet ive ever owned.

[@dreadlord9257]

@@moralreality7328 If samsung would hurry up and add a video-in port I'd go out and pick one up in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, if I'm on the road I like to have a portable monitor and need something that works without installing software onto a work computer, or that I could pair with something like my Switch. Honestly, I still maintain that in 2024 - the portable monitor market doesn't need to exist. All tablets should have video-in. Then you can go balls to wall Snapdragon Gen 3/M-powered ipads if it is your primary computing device. Or as low compute as a raspberry pi 4 compute module if all you use it for is youtube/netflix and reading articles.

[@makdone]

Magnificent review, thank you

[@uijason]

Thank you. I've been waiting for someone to do a Linux sanity test on the V3... now I'm just waiting for my pre-order to arrive.

[@PixelShade]

I use kdenlive for video editing, and in the settings you can activate "proxy clips". these proxy clips can be any size you choose, like 480p or 720p, but the great thing is that the whole editing process is done in this resolution, however, during export it will utilize the larger 4K clips. This allows the software to run on pretty low end hardware without issue.

[@wadeduvall7026]

Wild. I was not expecting to see Minisforum on here. I use them for at home for a small server and NAS.

[@ErwalDeeas]

Maybe I missed it but how did you hook it up to an external monitor? Great review and content!!!!

[@sysop6165]

hey man, thanks for the informative video is there a way to run the tablet completely silent ? so lower tdp or powersaving mode or something. especially in bed i don't want to hear a fan, even if it leads to lower performance.

[@lounaticlouie]

Really tempting as a desktop replacement, I need one. I did just purchase a Surface Pro 9. The SP9 is amazing for what I use it for, it runs Bluebeam Revu extremely well. But the specs of the V3 are very tempting.

[@arafat464]

Just ordered one! I've been waiting for something like this for years. And I don't mind spending money on good hardware and build quality.

[@fumangus69]

Why didn't you choose a laptop? Honest question, because I see no use case where a laptop wouldn't be better.

[@arafat464]

​@fumangus69 I do a lot of reading, and I find that a tablet offers the best reading experience. I wanted a single device that gives me that experience when I want it, but allows me to also do real work when I need it. I don't really want to carry around two devices to do these tasks.

[@dustydynasty802]

@@arafat464enjoy!

[@icemelt7ful]

@@fumangus69i will also buy this over a laptop, I am a software developer and travel a lot, many times I want to check some basic coding stuff and don't want open a full keyboard based laptop. Second ill use it as a mini pc with my external monitor, I don't have too much space on my desktop for a full laptop Basically this product is targeted at surface pro users

[@MarkTentacle]

Is there any separate mode that, when installed on a dock station or connected to a charger, disables battery usage and powers all hardware directly from the cable?

[@anixhoffman9631]

DUDE. ART OF RALLY!!!! You're awesome!!!

[@DrobecVape]

This video is amazing, thanks for that

[@surfaceprousers]

I dissapoint with "Not a True Tablet Experience". I have an iPad 9Gen and a Surface Pro 8 too, and my SP8 and Windows can do all iPad PRO can do, some things even better by far. I just now dont use iPad, only the SP8. You can do it all in WIndows 11, from read comics to drawing, note taking, gaming... Automatic Tablet mode in Windows 11 works like a dream! I will be waiting next month to the new Surface Pro 10 ARM to get this or MS device. Not wasting money in iPad+Macbook PRO, only one device to do it all! Thanks for this great review!

[@dogboy0912]

Yeah hopefully Windows keeps improving. It would be the dream all in one experience. iOS is great at being seamless for all the things it CAN do, but it's like running into a brick wall wishing it could do anything else as well as being subject to Apple holding extra storage and RAM hostage for hundreds of dollars in typical upsell fashion.

[@porgesomer]

When presenting the external GPU [at 28:05] What controller are you using?

[@stevew145]

I have one pre-ordered. Can't wait to get my hands on it. I might sell my legion go as this *should* game better with the extra memory.

[@Anubis523kds]

This seems like a decent contender for a portable game dev/gaming tablet. Reminds me of an all-in-one solution for what I had to use back in my school days. I had to carry like 3 different devices.

[@martijnvdven]

Super interesting! Russ, could I request you to test the DP-in with your MacBook? It would be very interesting if I could travel with this as my second screen for work, and then be able to use it for gaming once I am off the clock.

[@Burbanana]

how do you reckon this would do as a programming + light gaming device?

[@David-Zita]

Hi, Which software did you use to run the CPU at 4 watts whilst playing celeste?

[@gamelauncher9821]

In the portble tablet space we have the New iPad Pro, the New Surface Pro with optional Oled Display, the Samsung Ultra 9 and the discontined Dell XPS 2-in-1. All of them similarly equipped without the a include keyboard case or pen cost $2,099+ but Minisforum V3 that includeds the keyboard and pen is $1200 pre-order and $1499 for on sale date. I think that amazing a power portable device in this class that uses Window 11 and does not cost an arm well done Minisforum.

[@phongnapatsukwat4683]

My dream is gone... I thought I would have this as Wacom pen display plugged into my PC and becoming on the go gaming tablet, and even how much I wanted it it wouldn't shipped to my country lol.

[@MexicanSniper11]

Would you be able to install the drivers from the Legion and see if you get the options that the Legion has?

[@zhaf]

Have the M4 iPad Pro and Apple slowly greenlitting emulators changed anything in the tablet emulation landscape? Is it powerful enough to emulate most console card ware yet?

[@Mike-ly1or]

@retrogamecorps does the screen support vrr? If yes does the DP in support VRR? Any plans on testing egpu? Would love to see egpu video out being fed into the display in.

[@ibrohiem]

Yes vrr plus 165 hz screen.

[@washuai]

Watch the vid, he used an eGPU in it

[@Mike-ly1or]

@@washuai I see that now but he doesn't feed the video out from the egpu back into the screen. You get additional latency by having the egpu send data back to the tablet. If he used the tablet as a monitor it removes this penalty. Additionally I want to see if VRR work on the display port input.

[@jnrfalcon]

Does the screen support basic HDR? What about in external display mode?

[@bucky5676]

The price points stole my soul

[@tilly9000]

Does this also work as an external screen for M1 MacBook Pro? I read in a review somewhere that it doesn't, but I hope it does :)

[@Spacecow1002]

One use case scenario for the display in is traveling for work, such as going to a conference or something. This would make a great secondary computer because you can use the device as a portable monitor during the day with a work laptop, then use it for personal uses such as gaming during the evening. Of course you could probably just bring a gaming device and a second monitor and save money overall, but in the professional world function greatly outweighs cost (just look at the target audience for the Apple Vision Pro). Not being able to use the touchscreen during external display mode is a big letdown, however. It would have been amazing to be able to use it as a sort of portable Wacom tablet.

[@WalterFRodriguez]

Bought it the other day after watching your review! What settings were you using while you were running Destiny 2 on it?

[@ericmacias4455]

I preordered this and was concerned about that back kickstand and man am I thankful you figured that out. I would literally never have used it cause I thought it was a terrible design and would cover the ventilation

[@aldo6532]

Ordered today! Completely blown away by this device and it’s reviews after thinking of upgrading from a Surface Pro 7 i5 to one of the latest ones. For half the price of worse specs and all the accessories, you get EVERYTHING All the accessories, a super-high spec (especially for a tablet), lots of RAM and even ports!! The stand maybe isn’t at par with the Surface but it looks usable. Super excited! I’ll be using it for pen art, music production, video editing and game dev. It’s a massive jump over my SP7 (according to benchmarks, about 14x faster 🤣🤣 SP: 204. V3: 2931)

[@brandonmiller555]

Lisa from mobile tech review would be a great channel to check out for a review of the stylus and drawing ability. I don’t think there is a video on this device yet, but I would expect one eventually.

[@segments2156]

if i can give you an advice on what to test with the stylus (for your next reviews), just draw slow diagonal (45°) lines to see if they are wavy or not. That's where most cheap pen fail very hard. You can also test if when you apply more and more pressure (regularely), if the line becomes more and more thick without any abrupt jump in thickness... But the wavy lines is probably the first thing an artist may want to see tested.

[@JLa748]

I also have been puzzled with proper usage of those bendable cover/support panels that come nowadays with portable screens and tablets😑. Thanks for review

[@wingsfromheaven8788]

Hey Russ great job on this review. I'm not sure if you uploaded this at 4K but the highest I'm seeing is 1080p. It looked a little fuzzy so I began to investigate. Before I get into the weeds here, I just want to say that uploading to KZbin at 1440p + 25 Mbit/s minimum has traditionally fixed everything. KZbin may be doing something a little different nowadays, as it appears that they are beginning to monetize higher bitrates. Assuming that you uploaded that video at 1080p, here are my observations. KZbin created multiple copies (per normal practices) while monetizing the proper 1080p bitrate, calling it "1080 Premium HD Enhanced bitrate". Your 1080p video was transcoded by KZbin at 1.1 Mbit/sec AVC/H264 and 0.87 Mbit/sec VP9. Those are 'extremely' low bitrates which will invariably look 'much' worse than proper 720p (~2.5 Mbit/s minimum). Hence the 'fuzzy' looking 1080p in this case. In general, 1080p will look as good as 4K at normal viewing ranges, given a proper bitrate. In fact, anytime the viewer is further than the diagonal measurement of the display (unable to hit themselves in the face with the display if swung on edge), then mere 20/20 vision cannot scientifically discern a difference between 4K and 1080p at a proper bitrate. The absolute minimum required bitrate for 1080p in this claim is ~5 Mbit/sec. As you may be aware, premium 4K is typically ~12 Mbit/sec minimum from Netflix, etc. The fix has traditionally been to upload 'at least' 1440p+25Mbit/s or 4K+40Mbit/s in pursuit of the best 1080p transcoding through the KZbin algorithm. This is so important that content creators will literally upscale their 1080p masterpiece to 1440p when targeting KZbin. This new "1080 Premium, HD, Enhanced bitrate" may indicate a departure from these traditional norms on KZbin, but I just wanted to ensure that you're aware of the traditional workarounds.

[@compunetfe]

Good review!

[@IsaacFromHK]

Hey someone said the DP IN doesnt work with Mac, can you test this for us? This is very crucial. Thanks!

[@hksduhksdu]

I haven’t tried this V3 yet but I gotta say, the folio keyboard and built-in kickstand on my Surface Pro 8 is still the best. Not sure if it’s because their design is patented so nobody else can do the same but what I really like SP8’s folio keyboard is to hide the magnetic pen + the tilting of the keyboard, it’s a tiny detail but it helps typing so much. And the built-in kickstand is just perfectly normal in 2021. But I have an Aokzoe A1 Pro and Legion Go, I just love the performance of 7840U and similar series AMD APU chipsets.

[@parawizard]

I have a SP8 as well. This thing also has the strip on the keyboard that snaps to the bottom bezel. Just no pen storage there. Both reviewers so far I don't think have shown that though.

[@hksduhksdu]

@@parawizard I know but the keyboard doesn’t tilt right? And the kickstand is not built-in, so feels like not having a peace of mind, it’s just me being paranoid 😅

[@dzibanart8521]

I bought one, can't wait to see it in person.

[@bobbleczar]

Did you end up getting it? How is it?

[@theshepard22]

Compared to the steam deck (for pc games) and a decent monitor, does this really hold a candle to it? For the higher end gaming alone, I'm looking at.

[@washuai]

I'd be interested to how you feel about this vs Legion Go + keyboard. Integer scaling, gotcha. Missed if VRR was in specs, still watching. The price of something like this is exactly the point the people are missing when complaining about the cost of a handheld with the same APU that is half this price. For what are they charging? A bigger screen, keyboard and trackpad.. There are probably cheaper laptops with 32GB RAM and a 7840U or 8840U (which isn't really a big jump). If you have a bag, pack that can fit this, you really have to prioritize the weight space difference, compared to all the alternate computing options. That said, I do know someone who loves a tablet for reading, watching and gaming. That's just an android tablet. They'd probably go this route, but it's no where near their budget. They have a laptop (I don't recall i what is capable of) , but they definitely prefer their tablet. The arrow keys are not it for pc gaming. I know most games don't use those anymore, but still. Yes, you clocked it for normal keyboarding, 😁

[@gortys3929]

I would add Galaxy Tab S9 ultra to the comparison as well. Very competent device.

[@BassRacerx]

I really wish that I could use something like this for work. I love using my ipad mini for most things however there are still some programs we HAVE to use windows for. Would like a more robust battery testing in your videos. How about youtube video playback with a modest screen brightness?

[@MunzMadeThis]

Hiya Russ ✋ A quick and dirty test for graphics pens/tablets is to draw a 45 degree line at moderate speed- with or without the help of a ruler. You can film it at 240 fps 1080p etc to see how the digital point follows the pen tip on the surface and how the refresh rate handles it etc. Brad Colbow reviews are a good template. Great video per usual 10/10 attention to detail and love to see minisforum pushing this platform.

[@RetroGameCorps]

This is helpful, thanks!

[@Wolfnimations]

@@RetroGameCorps Additionally I'd reccomend using Krita over fresco as can show the pen pressure better. Where Fresco in your video showed the pen tilt instead. As seeing how the pressure tapers in drawing programs is a big thing for artists to see how the pen performs.

[@lavalynx-ui6ve]

nice to see you try the pen in adobe fresco. but i would be interested to see, if you can take handwritten notes with the stylus. why just a random doodle? without touchscreen sbd could just get a gaming laptop.

[@techhit2132]

Finally. A proper and credible review of this tablet. Not like another KZbinr who says every device he showcases is the "best ever"

[@iHauntedVince]

Lemme guess something "Prime" hahahaha

[@techhit2132]

@@iHauntedVince 100%

[@LeoDavidGaser]

Have you thought about using a table telescopic controller with the V3, like the Galileo G8? I wonder if the weight difference would be noticeable from, say, the Legion GO. Excellent review!

[@HunterTracks]

It probably wouldn't fit into a telescopic controller without modification, and it's definitely far beyond the expected weight for that type of device.

[@mdr8615]

How does this thing compare to a Steam Deck for pc gaming and emulation?

[@sophiamauve]

i know you felt like you were talking out your bum about the stylus, but you told me exactly what i needed to know. i don't have to think much more about what my sister is getting for christmas this year lmao

[@KyleRuggles]

This is great but what would make it greater is to have a solid case, one with a hinge that you can actually use on your lap. Bummer about no upgradability though, lots of storage and ram so that takes the edge off. But at that price, I dunno... I personally would prefer to go with an actual laptop, but that's me. I wonder how easy it is to open up, if I owned one I'd like to give it a cleanout once in a while. I just wonder, who is this for? We can get RTX 3000 series laptops for around that price, we can buy a cheap external monitor and hook it up to our handhelds and game like that. And then with a tablet, you need a controller, so that's another thing to bring, an external gpu? Another thing to attach, then a power supply etc. Like.. I see this being BIG for creatives who need adobe premiere and lightroom etc on the go, but for gaming at that price and lack of upgradability? I dunno. Great review, been seeing lots of them in the past 2 days. :)

[@rosaria8384]

Ngl this made me want to see major manufacturers jump ship in this niche and actually innovate further.

[@hydrasq]

I got my Surface Pro 9 for $1400 as a complete bundle with pen and keyboard from Costco. I'm not sure how great the upcoming ARM chip is for gaming, but the Surface Pro 10 is also slated to release very soon. Figured that was worth mentioning for anyone in the market for a tablet PC.

[@DanicaDaystar]

Hey @RetroGameCorps, in your case specifically, you already have an xg mobile, you can just get a Flow X13 or X16. Not cheap, of course, I had to sell an arm and a leg but it is an unparalleled experience.

[@ericneo2]

I really hate half size arrow keys. Will it really cost that much to add full-sized arrow keys for up and down?

[@reign7433]

Which better onexplayer x1 or minisforum v3?

[@jamesgerber4658]

Been waiting for something like this since the Surface 2 Pro dropped.

[@christianviera8414]

Great review, love that minis forum is pushing innovation, but that price 💀, I'll definitely pick one up years down the line when price goes down and all the kinks have been smothed out

[@Yellowredstone]

This is a product that I would get for the uniqueness, but not for the value. Maybe as a work device if I had the choice

[@TarisRedwing]

If you EVER EVER get one of those Asus- ROG flow tablet please lord review it that thing sounds amazing!

[@NexGen-3D]

Ive been looking at buying one of these, but things that concern me are, repair-ability, how hard will spare parts be to buy?, how hard is it to disassembly? Is anyone going to produce a rugged case or rugged case/keyboard combo? These are really important topics these days, I'm looking at a Framework Laptop or one of these, and I'm thinking the Framework might be the better choice.

[@Jake__0200]

How would you compare the built in speakers to the iPad Pro?

[@RetroGameCorps]

Night and day, the iPad Pro is much better - richer and more balanced.

[@IcoKirov]

i wonder how a regular linux distro will perform on this. will all of it's feature work...

[@JubalVoid]

Small ergonomic tip, the top of the keyboard magnetically attaches to the tablet's bottom bezel so the keyboard has a slight angle to make it a little more comfortable. This thing would be a no-brainer with the kickstand built-in to the device, but between being less secure and much more bulky the attachment just degrades the whole experience. Prioritizing the 'tablet' mode by keeping the kickstand detachable was a bad move in my opinion. There's a reason the Surface started that trend, and even the Legion Go built it in.

[@jed1nat]

The reason why the back support confused you was probably because of the camera cutout hole which implies that that area should be in contact with the unit during use. Not sure why that cutout even exists.

[@chronossage]

So you can use the camera with the case on but not needing it to be folded? Like say you wanted to hold it and use the camera to take a pic of something.

[@jed1nat]

@@chronossage It's not a case though? It's just a magnetic flap to be used as a stand. I guess you could be walking around with it attached but I don't see why.

[@phxrider950]

@@chronossage You'd be blocking the vents.

[@phxrider950]

That's a really good point. They probably should have left that covered to discourage people from using it with the vents blocked.

[@asch9019]

I get cringey when someone say without further adieu but thankfully you are among the very few that uses wuthout further delay and it is so good to hear.

[@astralpowers]

I miss the Windows 10 Start Menu. You can set it up so it's fullscreen so it's good for tablet use. I used to do that on my old GPD win devices.

[@squirtle88]

I can't wait to get one of these one day, it will replace my gaming PC and nintendo switch!

[@Fernando-ek8jp]

I wish that if companies use half height up and down keys, they just made left and right half height as well. That way you can still feel the different keys

[@lemonacle]

Best buy and other retailers have been consistently dropping the price on the ROG Flow Z13 this year. That can be found for $1,549.99 regularly. $350.99 more for over 2x performance. May or may not be worth it but $/performance value is there IMO.

[@dogboy0912]

If you want a gaming laptop.... Don't get a tablet. It's that simple. It's more of a niche use case but these are perfect for some people.

[@marcelosoares7148]

If the Flow Z13 had an AMD APU it would be the ultimate tablet imo because you could run the APU on battery and fire up the discrete Nvidia GPU when plugged on.

[@phxrider950]

I'm buying this because it's ultraportable. I already have a gaming laptop that will run circles around it in game performance, for when I don't mind lugging 10 lbs of laptop + bag + 280w power brick + accessories. I get it that some people can only afford one device, in which case if gaming is your primary reason for purchase, this tablet shouldn't be it. It's a great secondary device for people like me who might want to play a real game occasionally on it, but don't want to haul the big beast when all I really need is a good web browser/productivity device, that can also play a game well (albeit on low graphics settings), should I feel like playing one.

[@ofgazonofgazon8931]

what happens if it used as a second monitor with a pc? touchscreen fonctions or not? anyway, very good review, thanks!

[@icemelt7ful]

Touchscreen will not work

[@ofgazonofgazon8931]

@@icemelt7ful thanks

[@IcoKirov]

22:45 you know you can hold down the steam button to activate the mouse function on the trackpad, right? this should remove the need to touch anything...

[@theflippestside]

Good video, thanks. I really like the Samsung tablets, but I like the price point of this one, with a pen that appears to be very responsive. I don't like that the pen can't be charged directly on the tablet, as we have so many devices now that need to be plugged in. That said, the value is definitely there, so I'm going to try and find somewhere I can try it in person in Spain before making a decision. Cheers

[@flyingaviator8158]

Question, Can I use the keyboard "not attached"??

[@everalm1]

Nope, powered and connected by pogo pins, no wireless connectivity

[@flyingaviator8158]

@@everalm1 What a pitty, thx for the answer tho!

[@Splackavellie85]

What would you recommend between this and the Asus Flow Z13? Refurbished, the Z13 goes for about €1300, which makes it a very tempting alternative to this.

[@themadatheist1976]

Saw this on ETA's channel, it should've had a integrated stand and swap one of the USB Cs with a A port. Also the KB needs a tilt like the Surface Pro. I'm curious on how thick of a nvme it'll takes. Edit: guess the KB does have a tilt, you're the 1st to show it.

[@oliverdowning1543]

You can run a lot of older pc games on android through wine, DXVK and box86/64 with something like winlator tying them together. Still doesn’t beat the native performance at all but is another compromise available if the tablet UI is something you care about.

[@danield.2530]

An easy way around hitting "Play" in the fallout main menu would be to set the right track pad as a mouse and just click on it 👍gotta love Steam input

[@JasonCrosen]

I was willing to overlook that higher price thinking that I could upgrade the storage and ram. But not able to do that kills it for me.