AYANEO Pocket S: Premium and Underwhelming

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@jonathanmikarui8931
@jonathanmikarui8931 8 ай бұрын
Russ - I LOVE that you put these one-line summaries in the title, so useful. You're one of the most practical KZbinrs I know, don't change
@chrisharrison3374
@chrisharrison3374 8 ай бұрын
Agree, proving that you don't have to do all those crummy misleading things to build a great channel and following
@EpsilonChurchRVB
@EpsilonChurchRVB 8 ай бұрын
I'm happy that he isn't like ETA Prime who literally praises even the worst and priciest tech possible.
@Dupstan
@Dupstan 8 ай бұрын
Literally the gold standard of reviewers
@stoneguard
@stoneguard 8 ай бұрын
@@EpsilonChurchRVB I've definitely seen Prime give cons for things or not like them, but he is overall more pre-disposed towards being positive towards devices.
@mark_midmark
@mark_midmark 8 ай бұрын
No click bait, and still every video is worth clicking
@steakbaguette
@steakbaguette 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad ever more for my purchase of the Odin 2 (based off of mainly your recommendation)!
@franciscobutte
@franciscobutte 8 ай бұрын
Odin 2 still has no competitor. Is just too good in every aspect.
@deflash
@deflash 8 ай бұрын
Odin 2 still king
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 8 ай бұрын
Odin 2 mini was announced, loll
@franciscobutte
@franciscobutte 8 ай бұрын
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Is not better than the Odin 2
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 8 ай бұрын
@@franciscobutte the Odin 2 but half the size I would say is definitely an improvement
@ZettiHDz
@ZettiHDz 2 ай бұрын
Ayaneo is so disconnected from what customers actually want in a $700+ handheld. They’ll build a $300 device and mark it up $400 just because it comes from them. Absolutely ridiculous.
@Gothenburg1
@Gothenburg1 8 ай бұрын
WHAT!!??? Odin 2 mini is exactly what I was looking for, what an incredible clifhnanger you did !!!!
@fellowninja
@fellowninja 8 ай бұрын
It looks so good lol I have a PS Vita in a genuine (lol) PS Vita bag, and it might have a new neighbor soon.
@Gothenburg1
@Gothenburg1 8 ай бұрын
same here and I love mini led tech, my tv is one and I think I prefer it over oled, it's more balances imo
@xxGSII
@xxGSII 8 ай бұрын
I just canceled my order. Russ, the joystick call out is exactly what I needed. When I initially ordered, I felt your first impression video may have swayed Aya Neo to change those out. They seem like they didn’t. Thank you again. Going Odin Mini 100%…
@jaycee1088
@jaycee1088 8 ай бұрын
Yup! Same reason I’m not getting the Aya slide. It has a similar problem with the sticks… but it looks soooo good tho!!
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 8 ай бұрын
I just wish the layout was PlayStation instead of Xbox. My hands really don't like the offset sticks
@fellowninja
@fellowninja 8 ай бұрын
I just saw this. I didn't know I could cancel the contribution, and I just smashed that refund button. Thank you!
@JBlaze8814
@JBlaze8814 8 ай бұрын
I also refunded my contribution and immediately bought the Odin 2. Saved some money and got what clearly seems like the better device.
@brandonakey6616
@brandonakey6616 8 ай бұрын
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 I Agree.
@maddoggaming1171
@maddoggaming1171 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been anxiously awaiting this review. I got my snacks but need to grab a drink, brb.
@rheaquiambao2288
@rheaquiambao2288 7 ай бұрын
you back now?
@maddoggaming1171
@maddoggaming1171 7 ай бұрын
@@rheaquiambao2288 I am now! XD
@sullychow4123
@sullychow4123 8 ай бұрын
Your mechanism reminds me of when I'd use rubber bands and erasers from school on my DS to get my character to run into one of those movement tiles in Pokemon continously to level up my daycare pokemon., blast from the past. Cool device review too BTW lol.
@dynamicide
@dynamicide 8 ай бұрын
Your timing is impeccable. I just saw the talk of the Odin2 mini and then it got me seeing your video on the AYANEO Pocket S from 2 months ago. I realized they sent out review units by now and thought maybe you had a video brewin’. Glad I was right and this is a good ol’ 38 minuter.
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 8 ай бұрын
Odin 2 mini is gonna probably be like half the price of this
@dynamicide
@dynamicide 8 ай бұрын
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 After finishing this video I stopped considering the Pocket S. I do already own an Odin 2 Pro and it seems this doesn’t do much to shrink down from the Odin 2 size as much as I’d like. Ideally I’d love an RP4 Pro form factor with this quality build and Odin 2 levels of performance. Also, Odin2 Mini starts at $339.
@clausjahnel5379
@clausjahnel5379 8 ай бұрын
@dynamicide The RP5 Pro will be out soon. 😁
@Xtoffer87
@Xtoffer87 8 ай бұрын
"It will live in a shelf in the foreseeable future". Damn.
@OdaSwifteye
@OdaSwifteye 8 ай бұрын
*Stinky Pete has left chat*
@christiangai5981
@christiangai5981 8 ай бұрын
After that sentence you can hear ayaneo CEO cry from everywhere.😂
@billmore6486
@billmore6486 8 ай бұрын
So will 99% of these handheld. They gotyour money companies don't care.
@Triknor
@Triknor 8 ай бұрын
Mic drop 🎤
@DovahZeux
@DovahZeux 7 ай бұрын
@@billmore6486 My dude, Odin 2 has the staying power of literally TWENTY PLUS more years. We literally do NOT need a handheld emulator nor handheld PC with more than 16GB of RAM that will only have shit for battery life, and stability in the gutter. Ayn nailed the screw into the coffin so hard the coffin now resides in the Earth's core. Not even a better CPU nor GPU would matter in a world where ports of the games we love will run flawlessly on the Odin 2. We have reached "The One." It's finally over. 👋
@dira5787
@dira5787 8 ай бұрын
Ross we really appreciate that you have those balls of steel and you're still presenting us the Switch performance.
@DallasDub94
@DallasDub94 8 ай бұрын
Lol I beeeen waiting for this. I already decided I'm not getting one but your reviews are always appreciated. Hopefully Ayn gets an odin 2 mini to you asap... It's between that and the full size one for me.
@jackamick
@jackamick 8 ай бұрын
I just got my RP4P but now I've got Odin 2 Mini lust
@DallasDub94
@DallasDub94 8 ай бұрын
​@@jackamickyeah odin2 mini might be the new meta depending on people's needs. More compact than the original but same power/performance, definitely looking forward to it.
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 8 ай бұрын
I got the retroid because it's Sony style layout. I hate the Xbox style offset sticks
@clashatdemonhed9554
@clashatdemonhed9554 8 ай бұрын
I have the full size. It’s the best device I’ve ever owned
@JBlaze8814
@JBlaze8814 8 ай бұрын
Another great review. I just cancelled my pocket S order and bought an Odin 2. I love how sleek the device is, but if I can save some money and get a better device, it’s a no brainer.
@clashatdemonhed9554
@clashatdemonhed9554 8 ай бұрын
Odin 2 is the best device I’ve ever owned. I love that thing
@clausjahnel5379
@clausjahnel5379 8 ай бұрын
@clashthatdemonhed Perfectly put, same here.
@yogeshchettiar470
@yogeshchettiar470 8 ай бұрын
Highly sophisticated mechanism indeed. Props Russ 👏
@Xen0gears515
@Xen0gears515 8 ай бұрын
Great review. Your channel is my go to for any new handheld device and your setup guide for the retroid pocket 4 was great. Can't wait for you to review Odin 2 mini. I recently purchased RP4PRo and thinking about returning it and wait for that one
@odanrov
@odanrov 8 ай бұрын
Thanks to your review and Tech Dweeb's I have decided to cancel my order for this. Definitely disappointed in the dpad, the sticks and the drivers. And really happy at the announcement of the odin 2 mini as that will basically check all of my boxes bar any fatal flaws that might appear once reviewers get their hands on it. Appreciate reviewers for saving consumer's money, thanks Russ!
@nathanburg
@nathanburg 8 ай бұрын
Ayaneo: We got this new overpowered machine you really dont need for a price you cant really afford. Me: yeah man I wanna do it
@mindyournose
@mindyournose 8 ай бұрын
I swear these and anbernic share the same business management teams Game plan Make 100000000000 devices a year flood the market Ayaneo:we got the expensive end Anbernic: we got the under 100 dollar end. End result trash.
@theflavourist1985
@theflavourist1985 8 ай бұрын
@@mindyournose Its not that easy.. since Anbernic has "premium devices" aswell, like the ANBERNIC RG552 or the ANBERNIC RG556 ... but yeah, still quite cheaper than this overpriced trash.. to me it kinda feels like ayaneo is going to be the apple of the handhelds.... overpriced, unreasonable pricescaling (remember the extra tier for the unmarked version compared to the internal storage pricing for an iphone), etc... while anbernic is the (xiaomi) redmi class which is cheap but solid option in that pricerange (sure, there are cheaper ones, but more than often they are real trash like ali-express fake phones)
@westleyjohnstone4719
@westleyjohnstone4719 8 ай бұрын
Technically they will withstand upgrading for a while will they not? I mean, overpoered means, will be ok in 2 years
@NerevarineArgonian
@NerevarineArgonian 8 ай бұрын
They played us like a damn fiddle!
@colegillgrass3373
@colegillgrass3373 8 ай бұрын
Just wanted to correct something at the end of the video, pocket s does have turnip driver support. Kimchi has already gotten them working and its being merged into mainline turnip.
@devinrobertson5251
@devinrobertson5251 8 ай бұрын
What's turnip?
@ethanoney4680
@ethanoney4680 8 ай бұрын
Beat me to it, he probably used the wrong version, github was updated with A32 support couple weeks ago
@RetroGameCorps
@RetroGameCorps 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, I was using the latest Kimchi drivers in my testing but there is some sort of bug with them which creates graphical issues and crashes. Native drivers performed quite a bit better, which is why I showcased them. Kimchi told me that he'll be dropping an update shortly that should work with the Pocket S.
@devinrobertson5251
@devinrobertson5251 8 ай бұрын
Can someone tell me what turnip is please?
@RetroGameCorps
@RetroGameCorps 8 ай бұрын
@@devinrobertson5251 they’re a set of third-party GPU drivers for Android that many emulators (including Yuzu and Vita3K) support. These drivers generally perform better and are more compatible than Qualcomm’s stock drivers.
@martin_from_sweden
@martin_from_sweden 8 ай бұрын
I would like to thank you. Without you I would have so much more time and money that I would not know what to do with.
@evanpowell524
@evanpowell524 8 ай бұрын
Hard to tell whether you’re being serious or sarchasm if with that one haha.
@martin_from_sweden
@martin_from_sweden 8 ай бұрын
@@evanpowell524 a bit of both I’m afraid… This man has made me buy a Steamdeck, RGB30, RG35XX and here I am at almost 1 am modding my PS Vita (again).
@theviniso
@theviniso 8 ай бұрын
I haven't spent a single dime on these retro handhelds so far but I spend so much time watching this channel that its just a matter of time untill I do
@martin_from_sweden
@martin_from_sweden 8 ай бұрын
@@VSMOKE1 That is very much true. I have an RGB30, RG35XX, Steamdeck and a modded PS Vita with all my emulators on but for the most time I just set things up. Yesterday I stayed up to 2 am modding my PS Vita (again) and transferring all the games to it that I will never play. I do play games, but mostly on my PS Portal+PS5.
@theviniso
@theviniso 8 ай бұрын
@@VSMOKE1 I do, in fact. I have beaten both Pokémon Firered and Emerald on my smartphone and also Breath of the Wild on my PC. Even then, I can't deny I have spent a lot more time fantasizing about these retro handhelds than actually playing retro games lol.
@gtrhetgstr6gr6yg
@gtrhetgstr6gr6yg 8 ай бұрын
I was so so SO close to ordering the pocket S but the thermal problems made me worried for the price. The Odin 2 is a bit too big for me for my use case so hearing about the Odin 2 Lite makes me happy I waited and didn't give into FOMO and the beauty of the Pocket S!
@arty8478
@arty8478 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for dropping the detailed review Russ, you're efforts are always appreciated! I was honestly only holding out from getting the pocket S until after your official review dropped! So now I'm going to save up for the Odin 2 mini 😄
@tebo2286
@tebo2286 8 ай бұрын
Russ, can I just say that I have a love/hate relationship with your channel. I love the fact that after watching your reviews I'm able to make an informed decision that said, I hate the fact that money always seems to leave my pocket almost every time I finish watching your reviews. I held out on the Odin2 ever since the Pocket S was announced now it's a no-brainer, I'm most definitely buying the Odin2 and going all out with the Max model while at it. I'm future-proofing myself now that Windows emulation is steadily maturing on Android. As always, great review. Thank you 🙏
@NoneyoBizwiz
@NoneyoBizwiz 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for your videos russ!. reviewing and receiving products as often as you do probably gets very tiring..... Especially when its as thorough and well done as these, I really hope you can take a nice long break soon.
@tecnui
@tecnui 8 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. I really enjoy his video format, but he can’t have very much time with his family. With him being retired I imagine he has enough passive income to take a deserved break.
@jakesmith5278
@jakesmith5278 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Russ for another awesome video, especially showing and testing the dpad and thumbsticks. I don't think this thing got anything on the Odin 2. Long live the old king.
@TheCmurley131
@TheCmurley131 8 ай бұрын
Ever since picking up a Rog Ally (non-extreme) open box for $300 I have totally stopped considering buying any handhelds. That doesn't stop me from watching these great videos though!
@sandplasma
@sandplasma 8 ай бұрын
Not even a smaller more pocket able one?
@TheCmurley131
@TheCmurley131 8 ай бұрын
@sandplasma ngl the RG35XXSP is very tempting at its price-point for early gen gaming. Love a pocketable clamshell. Possible impulse buy for an easy travel conpanion haha
@sandplasma
@sandplasma 8 ай бұрын
@@TheCmurley131 Agreed, I use my Ally at home mostly. Just got a 405M for when I'm on the go. Definitely helps when I'm waiting in the car for someone.
@MrMovees87
@MrMovees87 8 ай бұрын
This was an incredibly thorough review, and I loved the side by side comparisons with the Odin 2. I think between the two, were I to buy one of them, I think I’d go with the Odin 2 for sure
@devinrobertson5251
@devinrobertson5251 8 ай бұрын
Really hyped for this!!! Hope drivers for switch get worked on.
@happenstanceuk
@happenstanceuk 8 ай бұрын
So the fan can get quite loud but how often during gaming would you say it actually had to ramp up so you would hear it?
@happenstanceuk
@happenstanceuk 8 ай бұрын
I was still ready to get this despite the shortcomings for most of the review as I love the design but it heating up so quickly is a deal breaker. If they fix it in a future revision I'll get that.
@fellowninja
@fellowninja 8 ай бұрын
Same. I was going to still try it out and try to justify my purchase, but then I saw that they didn't change the sticks and messed up the d-pad to the point that I know I'd hate using it. "Well, maybe it'll be good for Android games--" then everyone so far has said that the key-mapper is trash. I refunded my order.
@shanenestor8234
@shanenestor8234 8 ай бұрын
Same refunded and will get the Odin 2 mini which ships late June. Easy decision after the reviews.
@axipher
@axipher 8 ай бұрын
Great video, started on my second monitor, quickly moved it to my primary monitor instead. Can't wait for an eventual Odin 2 Mini comparison to this level.
@EpicPrintingShop
@EpicPrintingShop 8 ай бұрын
12:23 Hey Russ, I'll be making the 2-in-1 case/grip for this device when I receive mine (should be here soon). I'll ship you out one once it's finished.
@2annie1chalice11
@2annie1chalice11 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your Benchmarks and your honest opinion! I was planning to buy one of the Pocket S but now I ordered the Odin 2 instead
@buster0098
@buster0098 8 ай бұрын
No 3.5mm headphone jack is an instant deal breaker to me. Most people don’t want to have to deal with having no battery left on a pair of headphones on something like a flight.
@pieceofschmidtgamer
@pieceofschmidtgamer 8 ай бұрын
@@VSMOKE1 I don't mind their existence, even though I don't use them. I just don't like making them mandatory.
@DuffleWork
@DuffleWork 8 ай бұрын
I think you can use a usb-c to 3.5mm adapter
@ScrubsWasTaken
@ScrubsWasTaken 8 ай бұрын
@@VSMOKE1no they’re not what are you yapping about
@richardhunter9779
@richardhunter9779 8 ай бұрын
@@DuffleWork Another thing to forget...
@eemmeraldd
@eemmeraldd 8 ай бұрын
My earbuds last for weeks without a charge, and they charge quick. I've never had a pair of bt earbuds die on me without warning
@pixelpuppy
@pixelpuppy 8 ай бұрын
exceptional review! I really appreciate the full on comparison with the Odin 2. Really puts it all into perspective! Hope you'll do the same for the Odin 2 Mini when it comes out!
@KyleRuggles
@KyleRuggles 8 ай бұрын
No headphone jack!? WTF!? How can a super powerful gaming device NOT have a headphone jack? Switch sticks? Ugh... This thing is so thin, so compact, it throttles big time! Great review, but not for me given the Odin 2 and everything we know. Basically we're paying extra for a lot of pretty.
@SEVENTEENPOINT1
@SEVENTEENPOINT1 5 ай бұрын
I can count on my hands how many times I used a headphone jack in the past 5 years on my hand. 3 times, all on my Walkman. But yeah this device looks like a bummer.
@zayanahmed6915
@zayanahmed6915 8 ай бұрын
I've been eyeing this handheld for a while now. Seemingly I might pick this or the Odin 2 Mini. Good job, Russ ♥️
@xanderflynn3434
@xanderflynn3434 8 ай бұрын
dude 100% get the odin 2
@Angultra
@Angultra 8 ай бұрын
Either of the Odins is superior.
@zayanahmed6915
@zayanahmed6915 8 ай бұрын
Odin 2 Mini for sure!
@Magusguile
@Magusguile 8 ай бұрын
I actually think a smaller size to make this more pocketable would have given it a big edge to win over the Odin, even if it was a bit less powerful and it might have helped the price some too. I think I was hoping for something like a Retroid that was joystick focused and premium but more portable than the Odin. Great review, as always!
@danielfaal1379
@danielfaal1379 8 ай бұрын
I definitely bought this device. I love the design. This is my second handheld since the PS Vita. Regardless of specs and price it’s your detailed reviews that made me return to handheld gaming. Thanks.
@filamBboy
@filamBboy 8 ай бұрын
hey russ, have you tried pc emulation on the pocket s or the odin 2 like winlator? Would love your insights.
@OrangeExorcist
@OrangeExorcist 8 ай бұрын
So you might be interested to hear, windows just announced it now runs on arm devices like these Androids and Macs.
@filamBboy
@filamBboy 8 ай бұрын
@@OrangeExorcistactual windows or an emulator like winlator
@OrangeExorcist
@OrangeExorcist 8 ай бұрын
@@filamBboy the actual windows os. They even added a forum post about it three days ago called 'Windows on Arm'. I'm excited to see how it handles.
@SujithKalathiveetil
@SujithKalathiveetil 8 ай бұрын
Russ, thank you for your always honest and practical testing. The fact that the Odin 2 consistently beats it in sustained performance and has significantly battery life, makes this too hard to justify. I just cancelled my early bird preorder.
@OrangeExorcist
@OrangeExorcist 8 ай бұрын
I purchased the 1440p 1tb model and can't wait for delivery. I'm in it for how thin the system is while being around the same power as the odin two. I just like the switch lite style form factor. What I really can't wait to see is a tear down as well as what hardware and backplate mods people come up with. I'm debating on CNCing an aluminum backplate with a rear vent as well as running some thermal pads to disperse the excess heat.
@IndubitablyRetro
@IndubitablyRetro 7 ай бұрын
Ayaneo should have a teardown video already. I think it was shown when they announced the pocket.
@samh5886
@samh5886 8 ай бұрын
Is the screen response/ghosting better on this compared to O2? Crazy to see performance dropping at max brightness compared to 50% brightness, first time seeing this behaviour. Due to heat? Or lack of power(wattage)? Anyway, so the 40-50% gpu clock speed advantage is giving a ~10-15% improvement at best, even in gpu benchmarks, probably due to throttling (either heat or power)
@fellowninja
@fellowninja 8 ай бұрын
Also, Champions and other Snowblind games (Baldur's Gate: DA 1&2, Champions: R2A) absolutely require you to flip a couple of settings on. You have to go into Game Properties > Advanced > Hardware Fixes and turn on Disable Frame Invalidation (or if you're on NetherSX2-4248, the two settings that have Invalidation in the name). This will make those flame textures from torches and certain fires to NOT kill the framerate, and it makes the game absolutely playable, even on the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro.
@tesohi
@tesohi 8 ай бұрын
Hey! I really like you content and do appreciate your passion about measure and test. So I would like to suggest an idea to use a noise meter to estimate cooling noise (especially for comparison between different consoles) thanks for you work!
@syrup6411
@syrup6411 7 ай бұрын
Russ seems to be in love with Odin 2. I am happy that he tries to keep the reviews as objective as possible though
@HaruVibes_
@HaruVibes_ 8 ай бұрын
They're revealing the pocket micro on 18th. Cant wait to see your eventual thoughts on it.
@voodoocowboy
@voodoocowboy 8 ай бұрын
Russ, you did not betray us just to please the manufacturer! Thank you!
@TheMooooooooooooooo
@TheMooooooooooooooo 8 ай бұрын
As the review went on I was like "man the odin 2 sounds nice wish they took that and just made it smaller." Looking forward to the Mini review.
@DownUnder43
@DownUnder43 8 ай бұрын
When we compare a true reviewer to ETA reviews we know how this Channel sticks up against all other channels. Hope your channel continues to deliver unbiased reviews as it grows. 👏
@truegamer_007
@truegamer_007 8 ай бұрын
LCD in 2024 for that price? Total dealbreaker.
@deflash
@deflash 8 ай бұрын
If play a lot for years it's better than burn oled screen
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 8 ай бұрын
Modern OLED don't have burnin issues with normal use... But vrr can't be done with them
@colinmartin9797
@colinmartin9797 8 ай бұрын
Honestly... I would have said the same until I started using good LCD's against good OLED's. When I had to RMA my steam deck OLED for a ground loop in the headphone amplifier, I was back to using my LCD deck and realized... I really didn't mind at all. The LCD looked amazing still. Same for my retroid pocket 4 pro. Would an OLED be nice? yes. But I genuinely have no complaints in use. The reality is that OLED screens can be pricey still. Yes some devices are sneaking them in like the new anbernic, but the reality is that the anbernic also has a much less expensive chipset. Chips get a LOT more expensive as you go more modern, and the fact that this is like HALF the price of any phone with this processor, I think maybe the cost of a screen was a real consideration. Maybe offering an OLED version as an upgrade would have been the way to go. I probably would have paid extra if this device was for me (I've just discovered after getting the 405m that I prefer nice plastic devices to metal and glass for gaming)
@JamesCook76131
@JamesCook76131 8 ай бұрын
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271I’m on the fence, I have a A8G Sony oled that does have burn in BUT that’s from using it since 2019 and it’s not noticeable unless the screen isn’t showing anything. I think burn in is still a major problem but definitely not like it was nor is it truly noticeable. I also paid almost $4k for my oled back in 2019, vs what you can get a modern OLED for even a game system.
@Snowcart
@Snowcart 8 ай бұрын
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271what are you talking about? OLED can absolutely support VRR. I have an G9 OLED and LG CX which both support VRR. I think there are some flicker issues in certain situations, but I’ve never noticed it.
@shade20x64
@shade20x64 8 ай бұрын
I ordered one of these because I love the form factor, and it kind of reminded me of the Vita, which I'm a big fan of. But it looks like the Odin 2 Mini is probably closer to what I really want. Fortunately, I went with the 1440p version, and I think the limited nature of it will make it pretty easy to sell it and get the Odin 2 Mini instead if I decide to go that route.
@_BlackGuy_
@_BlackGuy_ 8 ай бұрын
Wait till you see the new odin 2 mini
@shade20x64
@shade20x64 8 ай бұрын
@@_BlackGuy_ I have, and I'm super excited for it.
@nyjay
@nyjay 8 ай бұрын
1440p on a 6” screen is pointless. It’ll just drain battery faster, while not looking better than 1080p. Also these type of handhelds don’t hold value, especially Aya Neo, considering how fast they produce the next replacement.
@shade20x64
@shade20x64 8 ай бұрын
@@nyjay 1440p has perfect scaling, which is a benefit over 1080p. Just depends on whether that matters to you or not. The 1440p version also seems to be very limited, so I could see it retaining more value than usual for that reason. Worst case scenario, I just keep it, which is also fine by me. 🙂
@gortys3929
@gortys3929 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for very comprehensive review. I am waiting for my 1080p model, but I don’t think to even open the box once I will receive it. I will probably sell it immediately and buy something different. Either from AYN or Ambernic.
@yungfella666
@yungfella666 8 ай бұрын
Why waste time trying to sell and potentially lose money when you could just cancel?
@gortys3929
@gortys3929 8 ай бұрын
@@yungfella666 Didn’t know I can haha, thanks 🙏
@christianmeier9993
@christianmeier9993 5 ай бұрын
just wonder how many updates this custom cpu gets in the future... can imagine that the more common 8gen2 will probably run better cause of more update... we will see
@MrSlowestD16
@MrSlowestD16 8 ай бұрын
I feel like I'd wait for the Odin 2 Mini you mentioned before considering this. I feel like this and that will be head-to-head
@I.M.T.S
@I.M.T.S 8 ай бұрын
I placed an order of Pocket S 1080P 16G+512G so I had been waiting for your review to drop. I got RP4 pro, Steam Deck and Ally but I want form factor that's in-between. Ideally I would've liked a Retroid pocket with a bit larger screen and a chip that can run up to Switch comfortably. I didn't consider Odin 2 because its a bit too large for my use case and I want something that's bit more nondescriptive. So I like the shape of Pocket S quite a bit. And tbh Odin 2 Max is currently $460 and I paid $500 for Pocket S, which is not a huge difference for a latest chip and better build material. But I do have my concerns. Firstly the Sticks, I really like the sticks on RP4 so yeah, Pocket S might feel like downgrade. And second is the repairability. Imo cooling fans needs to be cleaned periodically for optimal cooling. Pocket S don't looks like it'd be easy to open. As someone who owned Vita when it was released, I quite like the Odin2 Mini design but the screen looks bit too small on its frame. But I may consider the mini instead if its easier to open and not too bulky in size. I hope Ayn would release some actual video of it before I can no longer cancel my pledge for Pocket S.
@alexxxxxxxx
@alexxxxxxxx 8 ай бұрын
You should get a refund for the Pocket S and wait for Odin 2 mini, which will be out in a couple of months. It sounds like that's exactly the device for you.
@herukaizaryo
@herukaizaryo 8 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this video
@Fujioh
@Fujioh 8 ай бұрын
same Russ is the only dude whos opinion i value in this space.
@ArcadeArea
@ArcadeArea 8 ай бұрын
As always thank you Russ for your honest opinions!
@bassderek
@bassderek 8 ай бұрын
Pocket S GPU got added to turnip yesterday, hopefully we will see the driver release very soon.
@devinrobertson5251
@devinrobertson5251 8 ай бұрын
What's turnip?
@Spongegoose
@Spongegoose 8 ай бұрын
Idk why my wife is mad, I pulled out so I could watch this video.
@hetcs1595
@hetcs1595 8 ай бұрын
what??
@Buguese
@Buguese 8 ай бұрын
Bruh,lmao
@christianr.5868
@christianr.5868 8 ай бұрын
My man must’ve rung the bell
@xxxent
@xxxent 8 ай бұрын
worth it.
@Mowjojojo-wp9lq
@Mowjojojo-wp9lq 8 ай бұрын
Nah this is wild
@mstandish
@mstandish 8 ай бұрын
I had this in my cart when I saw your video on why you like the Odin 2. I went with the Odin and regret nothing.
@nevertellmethaoddz8581
@nevertellmethaoddz8581 8 ай бұрын
Would you mind doing an updated review of the MSI Claw? There’s been a couple solid updates that apparently improve performance significantly
@faidzfahmy5588
@faidzfahmy5588 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback. My Pocket 2 is on the way and I'm very curious how it fares against the Odin2 Max. Also, how does the GX3 Gen2 compare against Gen 3, e.g., S24U?
@mattm7220
@mattm7220 8 ай бұрын
Even if it's a preprod unit (assuming one can be obtained), we need a comparison of the Odin 2 Mini urgently. With only a little time left between now and when the early bird pricing for the Pocket S finishes, the people who *want* a sleek device with a flat feel need to know if they should wait for the Odin 2 Mini, or jump on the Pocket S while it's still cheap
@mmh-1453
@mmh-1453 8 ай бұрын
Will you review the Odin 2 Mini and compare them to the Odin 2 and other handheld in that size range? I'm especially interested in the Screens and brightness to play outside. Also a Video with Odin 2 vs AYANEO Pocket S would nice
@16bitOtaku
@16bitOtaku Ай бұрын
Another amazing review. The Odin 2, though, looks like a cheap educational kids' toy, and I dislike the Odin Mini blatantly ripping off the Vita. The Pocket S is so nice looking; it makes me want to pick it up and play it. I found no issues with the thumb sticks myself but to each their own. Also, the Ayaneo Evo is pretty much the Pocket S, just with OLED and looking like a 2S. From your review, the Pocket S takes it for me. It just looks so nice and premium.
@nosoykitos
@nosoykitos Ай бұрын
Hey Russ!! Have you tried it with their case? I’m curious to know how much improvement you see in ergonomics with it
@TunedByJ
@TunedByJ 8 ай бұрын
I was really torn between this and the Odin 2, but I’m leaning Odin 2 based on this review. The price is a def premium but I do appreciate the battery life and screen. Man I wanted to love this, but just falls short! (Would consider if price was lower).
@r.g.3265
@r.g.3265 8 ай бұрын
Russ, six months ago, I had 2 handhelds and now I have 11 and get annoyed whenever I look at them, "Which one do I play?!" Thanks, bud. 😂
@netnomad47
@netnomad47 8 ай бұрын
Narrow it down to 4 handhelds and sell or give away the rest 😎
@r.g.3265
@r.g.3265 8 ай бұрын
​@@netnomad47 Not a bad idea.
@jinstinky501
@jinstinky501 8 ай бұрын
Lol
@westleyjohnstone4719
@westleyjohnstone4719 8 ай бұрын
If your 'giving' , just be sure to let me know 😂
@leduy2000
@leduy2000 8 ай бұрын
really cool video, thank you for this. I saw that you have a case for Odin 2 pro, can you share the link to it? since I could only find the TPU case
@chronossage
@chronossage 8 ай бұрын
12:25 That flip grip case is really cool. Where did you find it and do they make one for switch lites?
@RetroGameCorps
@RetroGameCorps 8 ай бұрын
Here's the shop, I don't see an option for the Switch Lite but maybe you can put in a request! www.etsy.com/shop/EpicPrintingShop
@Rave79-egc03
@Rave79-egc03 8 ай бұрын
Haha funnily enough I've been playing the Castlevania games again (main timeline, based on the in game years) and to see that you enjoy Belmont's Revenge on the GameBoy puts a smile on my face... I agree on all the points you made as you have throughly tested the device...
@toanthlp
@toanthlp 8 ай бұрын
18:00 You can definitely see where to put the left analog virtual button in Genshin (and most other games). The Odin I use have the same process to set up virtual buttons. Or am I missing something else he is saying here
@RetroGameCorps
@RetroGameCorps 8 ай бұрын
Yes, what I'm saying is that when you place the virtual button, it doesn't allow you actually test it until after you save the configuration and exit out of the mapper. Then you can test it and see if it's off, either by size or location, then go back into the settings and hope that you remember the size/placement of the analog stick and try again. Not to mention that the circle inputs are hard to resize and place. It took me half a dozen tries to get the approximation that I showed in this video, and it was an annoying process!
@PabloLopez-tz2zq
@PabloLopez-tz2zq 8 ай бұрын
Hello russ, i would like to know wich monitor did you recommend for retro gaming? i know you did a review on a couple of portable monitors but im looking for a desktop monitor for my retrogaming pc that give me the best experience. any 16:10 did you know?
@nike77155
@nike77155 8 ай бұрын
I bought an odin 2 based on your recommendation. Thanks!
@TheTechUpdate-ui1fh
@TheTechUpdate-ui1fh 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video, thanks. Looks a lot like the RP4 Pro minus the Glossy finish
@jasonc5781
@jasonc5781 8 ай бұрын
Ngl, was waiting for this review too. Really tempered my expectation for this device. Now i hope AYN sends you a test unit for that odin2 mini.
@JeffBreyer
@JeffBreyer 8 ай бұрын
Ill be picking one up. As one of the backers of the pocket air I can definitely see where improvements have been made with their software and where ayaneo has been really slow to improve. That said, they haven't been on the android market long so I expect things to improve over time. This was a great thorough review. Thanks!
@3up3rn0va
@3up3rn0va 8 ай бұрын
I would like a Steamdeck mini if these get popular. While I love the large form factor of the Steamdeck. A mini one would be so cool.
@EtherealOmni
@EtherealOmni 8 ай бұрын
I WAS WAITING ON THIS!!
@blunelson146
@blunelson146 8 ай бұрын
Can you test Steam OS LCD/OLED again even with emulation? It haves a new Steamos 3.6, and I want to see if it's better, same, or worse.
@sonicknives
@sonicknives 8 ай бұрын
is the device google play certified to play warzone mobile? can you download it and play a game to confirm? if it closes at the main menu it means its not
@blales
@blales 8 ай бұрын
I would love to know if you have any iPad Pro with m1 or higher inside and what the performance of the newly released retroarch is able to power through!
@TokyoRobb
@TokyoRobb 8 ай бұрын
all very nice, honestly im quite happy with my gpdwin 4. the new windows emulator looks promising tho for android based devices.
@imnotsickler
@imnotsickler 8 ай бұрын
Russ knew I just got my Odin 2 Pro delivered and wanted to make sure I didn't have regrets.
@taib
@taib 8 ай бұрын
Russ - I’d appreciate your input: Question: Can the emulators for the Saturn and Dreamcast - on any of the systems/ emulators (Via Pocket S, Odin 2, Retroid Pocket Pro 4 or Steam Deck) able to play and connect online capable games online? (Custom fan made servers?) Can in one of your future videos test/ look into this topic?
@brednjam3425
@brednjam3425 8 ай бұрын
Hey russ, just a suggestion, would be awesome if you show some pc games running of winlator as a bonus. Like for example MGSV Ground Zeroes is fully playable on a beasty device like this.
@Matt_Silverman
@Matt_Silverman 8 ай бұрын
Anyone know what game is being shown at 19:52 during the fan test?
@michaelpurdy7834
@michaelpurdy7834 8 ай бұрын
Does this support audio through usbc headphones? I noticed it doesn’t have a 3.5 mm headphone jack.
@colinmartin9797
@colinmartin9797 8 ай бұрын
I've got a question Russ, that I think you'd have a good answer for - the odin 2 mini is.... really really freaking tempting.. I've long said that my reason for getting the RP4pro over the odin 2 was purely down to form factor. But having the RP4pro and being ever so slightly disappointed in its ps2 performance - all other things being equal, do you think the chipset of the odin 2 is that dramatic of a performance bump if what I really intend to play mostly is 3ds, gamecube and ps2? I don't really mind the price angle, I can sell my RP4pro and can afford any of these handhelds, I'm just looking for that perfect ps2 performance in a small and portable form factor that the regular odin 2 didn't fit into, between a handheld like the miyoo mini + and steam deck (obviously going to wait and see what you think of the device's other features like controls and ergonomics) Also - thank you again for that legion go video. You literally just fixed an issue I've been having with my lenovo laptop's audio for almost 4 years now with that video.
@HappyRattata
@HappyRattata 8 ай бұрын
is it the odin 2 base, pro or max these test were held? looking to buy one not sure if max worth it over pro
@Brunoxid0
@Brunoxid0 8 ай бұрын
How much did AYN pay you? Nah I'm kidding, mate. Love your stuff. Everytime I see you publish a video I get really happy. Thanks for all your hard work!
@filippoturetta1797
@filippoturetta1797 8 ай бұрын
Good work as always (i have not even started the video) ❤
@SailorMercury6449
@SailorMercury6449 8 ай бұрын
Great review. The more stuff Ayaneo puts out, the less interested I become. I almost bought a 2S but got a Steam Deck instead and I'm so glad I did. Ayaneo is just so atrocious for post product support and they pump out stuff at almost anbernic levels of frequency not caring about supporting the products they already have. Their stuff looks good, but it really isn't worth the sticker price in this oversaturated market.
@fellowninja
@fellowninja 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. All of their products, which used to be pretty unique, have fallen victim to better companies caring more about better hardware. Their handheld PCs used to be the only ones on the market, and then we got the Steam Deck, ASUS ROG Ally, Lenovo Legion GO, and the countless other Chinese manufacturers. They had Android handhelds, but the Odin 2 just cornered the market for that. There's no way anyone is stepping in the ring with a such a knockout product with as many compromises as the PocketS has. Mini PCs? Russ has a whole spreadsheet on better products than AYANEO's AM01/2, despite them looking really cool. I understand that these companies MUST keep putting out new devices, since that's how they make their money, but I don't see any market share left. Not in the West, at least.
@SailorMercury6449
@SailorMercury6449 8 ай бұрын
@@fellowninja They are also just obnoxiously expensive. If I am going to spend more than a steam deck on ANY device, that device better have basic RMA, returns, and warranties. Aya will make you jump through hoops, pay to ship it back, and ghost you on purpose to frustrate you in the refund process. I won't trust any company that doesn't have good customer service at these prices
@brianmasiko274
@brianmasiko274 3 ай бұрын
Do we have drivers for this chipset now
@pandabearmadness6263
@pandabearmadness6263 7 ай бұрын
I really wish you showcased the grip they are offering
@ev4_gaming
@ev4_gaming 8 ай бұрын
wondering how the odin2 mini will change the value, because it looks like a much better deal tbh, and it looks to have the same amazing sticks as the retroid pocket 4
@zgerman989
@zgerman989 8 ай бұрын
Any chance we get to see the OneXPlayer 2 Pro 8840U soon?? 😬
@Lupo2punto0
@Lupo2punto0 8 ай бұрын
next time you test speakers, please please please, use the Megaman IV game boy intro song, before pressing Start...it's such a good tune, one of the best ever!
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech 8 ай бұрын
Hey Russ Love your Videos, I heard what you said in one of your last videos about getting a new desk. But that diagonal shot during your intros doesn't look as good as your usual footage. it just feels weird at that angle.
@RetroGameCorps
@RetroGameCorps 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, but unfortunately it was a necessary change. I was sitting down too much and it was wrecking my health, so I needed to get a standing desk. And unfortunately we have slim pickings here in Hawaii, most places won’t ship furniture here. I hope to make better use of my new angles as I keep experimenting!
@EMERGENCYFOOD611
@EMERGENCYFOOD611 8 ай бұрын
Russ how do you even install yuzu and citra on new devices when it's off the app store
@meisner-effect
@meisner-effect 8 ай бұрын
you and @TechDweeb are the most professional handheld guys on the tube, thanks
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