RetroTINK 2X-Pro a NEW video upscaler for 2020. But is it worth $130!?

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MetalJesusRocks

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@rsolsjo
@rsolsjo 4 жыл бұрын
"This is what Bruce Lee should look like" cracked me up for some reason. 😂 Never knew he was a tiny pixelated man!
@manuell3505
@manuell3505 4 жыл бұрын
Somehow his facial expression unveils the man's identity...
@PuroresuFan
@PuroresuFan 4 жыл бұрын
You got it all wrong, he was actually reincarnated as a pixelated man!
@UnknownArab_64
@UnknownArab_64 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct
@The_RadicalOne
@The_RadicalOne 4 жыл бұрын
Man, you went above and beyond in this video. Very impressive.
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It was a ton of work capturing all this footage...but worth it in the end I think.
@ZonicMirage
@ZonicMirage 4 жыл бұрын
The regular HDMI port and enclosure sold me, not gonna lie.
@DixieBoy380
@DixieBoy380 4 жыл бұрын
It's definitely an update that makes me consider getting this when I wasn't considering the original.
@bluethunder8383
@bluethunder8383 4 жыл бұрын
Agree with that 100%
@ThePeacePlant
@ThePeacePlant 4 жыл бұрын
You can literally buy an upscale on ebay for $8. This is way overpriced. You are paying for the name
@ZonicMirage
@ZonicMirage 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePeacePlant I've had horrible luck with cheapo adapters, lol.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePeacePlant You cant buy a lagless linedoubler for $8 lol. Do your research
@TheGebs24
@TheGebs24 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the in-depth review. This is super helpful for me ❤️
@dmoehling
@dmoehling 4 жыл бұрын
Okay... 30 seconds in and I LOVE the new intro! Awesome work. Keep up the great content.
@BladeITguy
@BladeITguy 4 жыл бұрын
Bro. Been a fan for a while. Love how honest your content is
@dartfrogger
@dartfrogger 3 жыл бұрын
wow... thank you so much man! I ordered one of these from Amazon based on your recommendation.... and wow, it has surpassed my expectations. Thanks for making this video..... now I don't have to lug my 36 inch tube monstrosity into the nerd room of my new house when I move in next month. I'll keep my little 19 incher for duck hunt.... but everything else will be on a flatscreen with this wonderful gadget. Again, I'm blown away by the performance of the retrotink 2x-pro.... well worth the price of admission.
@grayfox6187
@grayfox6187 4 жыл бұрын
What a time to be alive I Can’t believe there’s So many ways to hook up a retro computer to a modern TV it may be Expensive but if you can afford it it’s a great way You can finally play an Amiga without modding it and every other console you own! 🤘
@-KillaWatt-
@-KillaWatt- 4 жыл бұрын
I just took my PS2 and Wii out of storage after getting a new 55 inch tv. I wanted to see how they looked on a big screen but had no idea I needed an upscaler to correct the resolution. I thought there was something wrong with my tv as all the games looked blurry. So after some searching around I come to find out modern tv's don't output resolutions that are designed for older systems. This video couldn't have come at a better time. I've been shopping around for an upscaler. I just don't know which one to get. I've seen a lot that don't work best. Any suggestions?
@pungisotu
@pungisotu 4 жыл бұрын
Killa Watt a lot of people prefer the OSSC, personally I’m happy with the framemeister. Keep in mind that devices like the retrotink, which I also have, and the OSSC are actually line multipliers which are something different. The framemeister is the only true upscaler of that bunch. Decide if you want a true upscaler or if you are happy with a line multipler and go from there.
@-KillaWatt-
@-KillaWatt- 4 жыл бұрын
@@pungisotu what's the difference between the two in terms of price? Because if OSSC is around the same price as the Framemeister wouldn't it be best just to get the Framemeister? I'm completely ignorant on this topic so I appreciate you taking the time to explain it.
@pungisotu
@pungisotu 4 жыл бұрын
​@Killa Watt I don't know the exact cost off the top, but OSSC is in the $200+ range and the Framemeister is over $300 easy, sometimes as high as $400. Bear in mind that while I personally prefer the Framemeister, a lot of people seem to think the OSSC is the better product. For me, I've found that the OSSC picture is much too bright for my liking and the line doubling caused some odd artifacts. Your tv may not have that issue. It also has had trouble with NES and SNES and those are my favorite systems, so there is that. My life in gaming has a good video about the OSSC if you want to get a good overview. Another thing I like about the Framemeister is PAL systems’ odd resolutions can be converted and upscaled. Most HDTVs won't display 576i or 288p. Most people don't care about that though.
@-KillaWatt-
@-KillaWatt- 4 жыл бұрын
@@pungisotu I'm beginning to think it maybe just better to find an old tube tv with AV and RF input.
@TheGunmanChannel
@TheGunmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Smooth looks like the one I'd use
@thomaselers7416
@thomaselers7416 2 жыл бұрын
I like it rough
@kkarlo777
@kkarlo777 4 жыл бұрын
you deserve 1mil subs dude keep it going love the videos!
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 4 жыл бұрын
Very kind of you to say. Thanks :)
@Robx4k
@Robx4k 4 жыл бұрын
Tip: There's a hidden extra life on Streets of Rage 2 at the beginning of the game, hidden at the bottom on the left hand side of the screen
@NijiDash
@NijiDash 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, I like how you show how various styles of 2D/3D are being handled by the upscaler. Also 5:18 You basikuri went Japanese there for a second 😂
@headninjadog8120
@headninjadog8120 4 жыл бұрын
Some electronics company need to create a flat screen TV “with CRT tech that works with all legacy content and tech “... lol. I wish.
@gabek1120
@gabek1120 4 жыл бұрын
Stop Buying China's Junk! Funny I was looking to buy that tv, was debating between it and a Samsung Q60R or Q70R, main issue being it lacks ports and how would i manage to solve the missing rca etc to play my wii or any future old devices I might buy, right now I have a switch and my brother has a ps4 and we have a wii and idk what tv is best in that situation, I want to eventually get all the retro things I can but since I don’t have them yet, to build such a collection, idk if it matters, things will change and update as time goes and maybe things will release remakes of old stuff, so I’m not sure at all what tv to get nor if I should bother setting up complicated cords adapters etc and such. What do you suggest? Should I risk the Qled tv or should I get the UHD tv because the ports are better to use my wii etc. ? I could use a computer to emulate too I guess so do I even need to worry about having a awesome screen then.... ?
@gabek1120
@gabek1120 4 жыл бұрын
@Stop Buying China's Junk! not sure if I am what you call a pixel snob? I only know my eyes have issues, both with light and motion so if a image is blurry it's harder to see it especially while moving. So better visually is better so I can see and play properly. So to soem extent color and shape crispness matters. If I can see it that's what I care about. My brain cant manage anythign moving too quickly it's a giant blur, and words can move in and out of focus so its similar to that frustrating effect. Even in the best quality graphics it happens when I play certain things. So idk. Is that a pixel thing then? I really wanted to get a really good TV so if I get a QLED and it doesnt support the ports and I jsut use adaptors is it worth it? Or is it better I get the ru7100? It's not as good as a QLED and it doesnt have free sync, which might be handy in the future for me. Since I want to play games from all times each isnt jsut retro but the current and new things both on my switch and a gaming pc I plan to hook to my tv in some strange fashion (so if an play games while laying in my bed and have a large tv screen across the room and still see it. I prefer my bed to a charge desk situation way more comfy and feet up)
@gabek1120
@gabek1120 4 жыл бұрын
@Stop Buying China's Junk! so if that's the case will hdmi to rca adapter quality matter? And how do I know the quality is good for anything? I dont want to waste moneyand time by doing trial and error methods.
@yonnileung
@yonnileung 4 жыл бұрын
I'm from Hong Kong, really love your video!!
@GGRC
@GGRC 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't used it but I feel like everyone is undervaluing the fact that this works with every old console, not just one.
@marconius1341
@marconius1341 4 жыл бұрын
Everything that is not outputting 480p or above;)
@GGRC
@GGRC 4 жыл бұрын
@@marconius1341 Very true! But How many consoles output to 480p and don't already have an HD cable option? It's like 2, right?
@marconius1341
@marconius1341 4 жыл бұрын
@@GGRC I would say gamecube, ps2, og Xbox and Dreamcast. Basically the consoles that originally had component cable options except the Dreamcast.
@NonsensicalSpudz
@NonsensicalSpudz 4 жыл бұрын
@@marconius1341 actually no the ps2 did 480i with the option to output 480p when pressing triangle and Cross, on game start, but only some games
@39zack
@39zack 3 жыл бұрын
@@marconius1341 for them there is the mmmm mm multi format one 😀
@luckyspray
@luckyspray 3 жыл бұрын
I was about to buy de levelhike for ps2 but now i think i will go for this. Thanks from Peru brother 🤘🏻💥
@richard5X5
@richard5X5 4 жыл бұрын
These are the videos I love to see from MJR. He gives an honest opinion, and shows the evidence for people to make their own-informed decision. Nothing but class and professionalism. He really does rock!
@prezidenttrump5171
@prezidenttrump5171 2 жыл бұрын
Great job trying to suck him off for a heart, you failed!
@Bo_Knows_Tecmo
@Bo_Knows_Tecmo 4 жыл бұрын
This is why I love my modded Wii U. It can play all the retro systems you want in hd. You can use retro controllers on it if you want. Nes and snes mini controllers. And it can play breath of the wild. One machine that can do almost everything and saves you the hassle and shelf space. If you then get the ps3 that has backward compatibility with ps1 and ps2 then you are good there since Wii U ps emulation is bad. Then with an Xbox one you can get a lot of the Xbox originals. So with 3 machines you can do everything practically for retro games.
@dutchkel
@dutchkel 4 жыл бұрын
I modded my wii but I need to mod my wii u. Also has 3ds
@Bo_Knows_Tecmo
@Bo_Knows_Tecmo 4 жыл бұрын
dutchkel yeah you need to. But if your modded Wii is connected via component then it will also work good.
@thereplicant
@thereplicant 4 жыл бұрын
Also: don't waste money on the Hyperkin hdmi cables, they stink!
@stevesstuff1450
@stevesstuff1450 4 жыл бұрын
Well... No. The Hyperkin HDMI adaptor that I on my N64 uses the S-Video out (WHY didn't Nintendo include RGB out????), and it's a great improvement over standard RF and Composite..... and as it's around 8 feet away from me, I can't smell it either! ;-)
@joncleary8896
@joncleary8896 4 жыл бұрын
Pound hd link cables work fantastically for me.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
Hyperkin, pound, level hike = shit
@ucfjtm
@ucfjtm 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevesstuff1450 $30 RGB board by Voultar and $62 HD Retrovision SNES component cables will give you component out on an N64..
@Chocoburger
@Chocoburger 4 жыл бұрын
@@ucfjtm I'd rather go the Tim Worthington RGB board, problem is most of us have to pay a modder to do it for us (roughly $100). I plan on having my N64 modded once Tim boards are back in stock. Total price around $140.
@RetroAli
@RetroAli 4 жыл бұрын
Been thinking of getting one of these, thanks for the informative review!
@jbsmith86
@jbsmith86 4 жыл бұрын
If you want 480p input (like on the psp in this video) retrotink has the 2X-Multiformat that does that
@ctrlaltrees
@ctrlaltrees 4 жыл бұрын
Really excellent review. I already own the original RetroTINK and RGB2COMP so I was on the fence about the Pro. It's a great device but for the price I decided to get an OSSC instead, and I use my original TINK in passthrough mode to connect composite and s-video consoles. I'd definitely recommend the RetroTINK to anyone looking for plug and play solution that works in 90% of cases.
@WizardBallz
@WizardBallz 4 жыл бұрын
whats a good ossc to get ? i see so many on amazon are they any good ?
@ctrlaltrees
@ctrlaltrees 4 жыл бұрын
@@WizardBallz I bought mine from here: videogameperfection.com/products/open-source-scan-converter/ It's very good, no complaints here. I don't know about the cheaper options on Amazon.
@absoluteclownworld
@absoluteclownworld 4 жыл бұрын
S-Video or Component on my CRT is good enough for me and imo looks best and plays best.
@RideRedRacer
@RideRedRacer 4 жыл бұрын
nothing beats a 27" Trinitron with component
@patsfan4life
@patsfan4life 4 жыл бұрын
@@RideRedRacer good call
@mikewalmsley5324
@mikewalmsley5324 4 жыл бұрын
RideRedRacer that’s what I have currently for snes and genesis. Do you know if you can do component with n64 or just s-video
@misterkeebler
@misterkeebler 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikewalmsley5324 you would need to mod your 64 for that. I personally stick to S-video thru a CRT. On my 4ktv I use S-video going into this retrotink-pro and into an mClassic. It's a nice combination imo.
@AzizidarkReborn
@AzizidarkReborn 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikewalmsley5324 Honestly, RGB from N64 isn't enough of a difference above S-video on a CRT to recommend getting a mod for, in my humble opinion. But it's not a super expensive mod, unlike the ultra HDMI.
@jeff97ish
@jeff97ish 4 жыл бұрын
I have the previous version, and now I want the new one! Great products!
@uriituw
@uriituw 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t output composite video from the Amiga. Go straight from RGB!
@YoreHistory
@YoreHistory 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for showing it on the C64 and Amiga...soon as i saw intro and you showing consoles i thought uh oh...wont show it on my beloved machines but you did. Cheers.
@devilmikey00
@devilmikey00 4 жыл бұрын
This is the ONLY device out there that you can use on your entire retro library. If you've got a big collection spanning multiple console gens from the 80's/90's/early 2000's it can get pretty expensive having to buy questionable cables for every individual device or modding old consoles which can get even more expensive. This is a one stop solution that will cover 20+ years of devices that just works on the shit you already own. I'd say for 99-130 bucks (depending on which version you get) the retrotink justifies it's price more then any other cable or mod out there for the less wealthy or less enthusiast retro gamer.
@RetroCabeza
@RetroCabeza 4 жыл бұрын
I had some issues capturing SNES gameplay with the RAD2X (powered by RetroTINK) on my Hauppauge HD PVR Rocket. I've been told it's the same with previous versions of Elgato (don't know exactly why). I'd love to know if that's corrected on the 2x-Pro. Thanks for the review!
@RetroCabeza
@RetroCabeza 4 жыл бұрын
Still no 480p signal, it seems...
@amras94
@amras94 4 жыл бұрын
The smoothing filter on this device is definitely one of the more subtle and better ones that I have already seen. There's not as much "blob" going on and instead just rounds out jagged lines. It almost works more as an AA filter than a smoothing one i feel
@PabstOban
@PabstOban 4 жыл бұрын
So the Retrotink 2x and Retrotink 2x-Pro were designed by a man named Mike Chi. He's a creator and a one man operation who's has had his designs stolen by China. When folks like Mike do passion projects like this and share it with the community, we all benefit from his innovation and creativity. When people who appreciate his work promote him and his work and buy his products directly from him and the approved vendors, you keep him making the devices we love. So for anyone who didn't know, again... this was a design by Mike Chi and if you are a retro gamer who likes to game on your HD television, this is the guy that made it so you didn't have to buy a $200 OSSC or a $600 Framemeister. Keep him in business by support HIM.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@Ichabod_Jericho
@Ichabod_Jericho 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting us know. How do I buy one directly from him or one of his verified retailers?
@SLICK8116
@SLICK8116 9 ай бұрын
Cringe😅😂
@ChrisPirillo147
@ChrisPirillo147 4 жыл бұрын
I love your content!
@beautepley8352
@beautepley8352 2 жыл бұрын
Metal Jesus, your analysis is awesome and easily comprehendable. Easily the best on youtube in my opinion. Thanks for all the advice and tips in retro gaming. You rock!
@epicstacker413
@epicstacker413 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought one. Can't wait to try it out on my av modded toploader nes! :D
@simpleandclean3330
@simpleandclean3330 4 жыл бұрын
Just got one. Thanks for the review!
@condor.67
@condor.67 4 жыл бұрын
Smooth mode FTW
@Deanster101
@Deanster101 4 жыл бұрын
Wow mine has just arrived and I’m shocked at how great the picture is on my n64, feeding s-video in and with smoothing mode turned on it looks incredible. Also going to test component on my ps2 but already mega impressed.
@letsplayclassicgames5024
@letsplayclassicgames5024 3 жыл бұрын
Mine came today and that was the first thing I noticed, with smooth on through svideo n64 looked so much better. My N64 has sat since I bought it cause it looked so bad through composite. directly in to the tv.
@higherground711
@higherground711 4 жыл бұрын
I like the device. I wouldn't use the smoothing on games like NES, SNES, SMS etc. I like for them to look pixelated. 👍😁
@MurrayNJ08
@MurrayNJ08 4 жыл бұрын
Yup loving mine
@xxnike0629xx
@xxnike0629xx 4 жыл бұрын
Well the fact that they went to a full size HDMI and also made those input selecting buttons more easily accessible is enough I think to make this worth the $130. The "Smooth" option definitely improves the visuals. It's basically a 2x or 4x anti-aliasing from what I can tell. This is very important for digital TVs that we have with our modern HDTVs and 4K TVs as opposed to CRT TVs that were analog. It's good that there's very little input lag.
@jordanmillraney5481
@jordanmillraney5481 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with what you’re saying here. The smooth mode on the retrotink is more of personal preference. Some people like the smoothed look on 2d games, some people stick with the raw pixels.
@zachross8081
@zachross8081 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Metal Jesus I love your videos
@craigrivers82
@craigrivers82 4 жыл бұрын
How well does this work with the PS2 and it's various hook-ups with ps1 games on it too?
@retr0type
@retr0type 4 жыл бұрын
I have the first version and I find it almost useless for anything that outputs anything higher than 240p. One of the major drawbacks for me is this doesn't have 480p (or higher) passthrough, so it can't handle the higher resolutions if you wanted to connect a component out system to a TV that doesn't have component inputs.
@CastleManiaGames
@CastleManiaGames 4 жыл бұрын
@@retr0type works great with 480i too
@Anthonyelmio2
@Anthonyelmio2 4 жыл бұрын
When it comes to anything higher than 480i/p I use an OSSC since it can support more options like 720p on the Xbox and 480p on PS2 and I have the classic retrotink and it doesn't support 480p but it supports 480i
@antonisatwork
@antonisatwork 4 жыл бұрын
@@Anthonyelmio2 How do you use the OSSC when changing inputs? Do you have to program it yourself or are there simple buttons or don't need to press or program anything?
@craigrivers82
@craigrivers82 4 жыл бұрын
@@retr0type Thank you for the info. saved me 130$ , I collect ps1 and ps2 and dreamcast, thats why i asked.
@Patmanx1
@Patmanx1 4 жыл бұрын
finding something for n64 and dreamcast is my goal. Im a amateur at soldering and the HDMI/rgb mods are above me. I can desolder and solder resistors and batteries all day, but soldering onto circuits and chips directly I dont have the solder iron tip or skill for that. So this device looks amazing for the late 90s 3D gaming. It's probably the best smoothing ive seen and the scanlines look tastefully done.
@woodenotaku
@woodenotaku 4 жыл бұрын
Still no 480p passthrough and way less features than OSSC but around the same price. Only reason you'd want one is if you only ever play systems with S-Video or composite only. Anything else you'd want an OSSC for. Now that the Koryuu Transcoder has also been released this doesn't make sense as a companion device for the OSSC either.
@Reinfallt
@Reinfallt 4 жыл бұрын
It actually might make sense for the OSSC Pro since it will have hdmi input. I assume you will be able to take the HDMI signal directly from the retrotink without having to use an hdmi->vga adapter. It would be interesting to see some side-by-side comparisons between the Koryuu and Retrotink at that point.
@Sweetaccord
@Sweetaccord 4 жыл бұрын
So this won't do anything for a Wii that is already outputting 480i/480p?
@hanningtonthegreat
@hanningtonthegreat 4 жыл бұрын
i love mine. works awesome with jaguar and 3do via s-video
@jedimaster12100
@jedimaster12100 4 жыл бұрын
I played Burnout Revenge on my 360 love that game. I'm still on the fence about this product. I still haven't watched a video where component is used on PS2. I guess I'd use this for my Dreamcast too. Dont know if I should go for this or the original.
@2timegarza583
@2timegarza583 4 жыл бұрын
Mainly what I wanna see ps2 game play using it
@tonyjuarez6296
@tonyjuarez6296 4 жыл бұрын
2 Time Garza same bro
@draketungsten74
@draketungsten74 4 жыл бұрын
If I didn't already have the original, I'd definitely get the pro.
@jroseme
@jroseme 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, you answered a lot of my questions. Im surprised you dont have the S-video cable for your PS1. I found a new one from the UK for $30 shipped. Keep up the good content sir.
@IRWPD
@IRWPD 4 жыл бұрын
Must say this new version looks much better. Seems to be well worth the money.
@cristianshadows2083
@cristianshadows2083 4 жыл бұрын
Just a little correction my dude, you named it Burnout 3 but the footage it's from Burnout Revenge in case that anyone wants to check it out, other than that, excellent vid!
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't know why I messed that up! HA
@cristianshadows2083
@cristianshadows2083 4 жыл бұрын
@@MetalJesusRocks Sorry to be that guy tho 💔
@norcalrallyx
@norcalrallyx 4 жыл бұрын
Because Burnout 3... is best Burnout
@frankstrasser6108
@frankstrasser6108 4 жыл бұрын
At 130 that price point is a little too high you can find an ossc for that price if you look and it offers so much more 80-90 would be the price point for this imo
@alexwoywood5950
@alexwoywood5950 4 жыл бұрын
You gotta factor in the price of getting RGB cables for all your consoles AND the OSSC wont work with a stock N64 which is a dealbreaker for me.
@frankstrasser6108
@frankstrasser6108 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Woywood you need cables for the tink as well plus if you have an old model N64 there is a simple rgb mod available
@alexwoywood5950
@alexwoywood5950 4 жыл бұрын
Cables that most people already have and are much cheaper. (For the tink)
@frankstrasser6108
@frankstrasser6108 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Woywood if you are buying hd retrovision cables they are actually more expensive then scart cables and this thing doesn’t support Scart the ossc supports component so you can use your component cables on the ossc too
@alexwoywood5950
@alexwoywood5950 4 жыл бұрын
Most people already have composite cables and those don't work on the OSSC. So you don't have to buy any cables at all for the tink.
@SixStryng
@SixStryng 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Thanks for the videos. I have really enjoyed going through all of your content. Keep up the great work!
@davege43
@davege43 4 жыл бұрын
My biggest gripe is that I remember n64 looking amazing back in the day. But it looks like crap on new modern big screen tvs.
@patsfan4life
@patsfan4life 4 жыл бұрын
There's a lot to that- the bigger screens of today exposes the relatively low resolution, and crt did a much better job with refresh/lag/motion blur etc
@bmac2814
@bmac2814 4 жыл бұрын
It's the signal. Classic game consoles, especially early 3d consoles, just aren't designed for modern TVs. Their signals dont interact with modern TVs designs correctly since they were designed to look as great as possible on a CRT, the only tv around at the time. It sucks. I'm tired of it blurring and pixelating my n64 games that when I have hooked up to my CRT, look as smooth as butter,
@bio-plasmictoad5311
@bio-plasmictoad5311 4 жыл бұрын
That's because you seen it on a crt
@bobbyknc
@bobbyknc 4 жыл бұрын
Bruce Lee was my first C64 back in the 80s. Loved it.
@joshmartimez2235
@joshmartimez2235 4 жыл бұрын
I'll be buying one of these very soon to play Play Station and N64 on my HDTV. I'm not a big fan of artificial scan lines in retro games unless the game needs it. Great video Jason.
@overlordalfredo
@overlordalfredo 4 жыл бұрын
Who's John? MJR is Jason as far as I know xD
@joshmartimez2235
@joshmartimez2235 4 жыл бұрын
@@overlordalfredo had a brain fart.lol.
@Dahlar
@Dahlar 4 жыл бұрын
Smooth with RetroTINK2X looks way better than UltraHDMI! I'm sold.
@CastleManiaGames
@CastleManiaGames 4 жыл бұрын
with an RGB mod especially.
@g1nobleteam
@g1nobleteam 4 жыл бұрын
Says he plays Burnout 3, shows footage of Burnout Revenge.
@JetSetTyler
@JetSetTyler 4 жыл бұрын
how dare him
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 4 жыл бұрын
DOH! Yep... I misspoke LOL
@franco7064
@franco7064 4 жыл бұрын
@@JetSetTyler he
@JetSetTyler
@JetSetTyler 4 жыл бұрын
@@franco7064 thanks dad
@franco7064
@franco7064 4 жыл бұрын
@@JetSetTyler no prob... Son... But remember.. I love you
@AzizidarkReborn
@AzizidarkReborn 4 жыл бұрын
Your transitional editing is ON FIRE lately. It is absolutely incredible how seamless and clean the smoothing comparisons were done with that sliding black bar effect. Totally rad. I love these kinds of videos. I just got the avermedia component to hdmi adapter. Haven't tested it yet, but if it doesn't work out, this new retrotink would be a great second output option.
@tOSdude
@tOSdude 4 жыл бұрын
"Burnout 3" *Proceeds to show footage of burnout revenge*
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 4 жыл бұрын
Yep! I misspoke. Doh!
@SolidSonicTH
@SolidSonicTH 4 жыл бұрын
MetalJesusRocks Ya can’t fool me when it comes to Burnout, mang.
@ThickpropheT
@ThickpropheT 4 жыл бұрын
Discovered the 480p problem with my GameCube recently. Was really hoping the pro version would support 480p. Good point about having to decide on smoothing per game. I've noticed with my legacy tink that on some games (mostly 5th generation) the smoothing turns pixels into rupees, so instead of jaggies you end up with weird 45 degree angles everywhere. It looks pretty unnatural. Pokemon Snap was where I first noticed this problem. With other games (usually 6th generation), the smoothing works like a charm. Try Kingdom Hearts with smoothing on. It's real nice. Another issue with the smoothing that I dislike but sometimes am forced to come to terms with is the effect on text. The smoothing CAN work wonders on the game graphics, but will almost always bargle the nawdle zouss out of the text. I really like me some crisp text, so its a toss up. Ymmv.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
If you need 480p out of your gamecube i'd suggest getting a Carby adapter from Insurrection Industries
@stegoeggo
@stegoeggo 4 жыл бұрын
No 480p input is a HUGE deal that needs to be front and center. Idk how they thought that was ok. Smh
@noahhowellstone1264
@noahhowellstone1264 4 жыл бұрын
The hole point of the product is to turn retro systems to 480.. why would they make it so it can take 480?
@epicstacker413
@epicstacker413 4 жыл бұрын
@@noahhowellstone1264 Consoles that output 480p such as the wii and ps2 that don't have hdmi would be my guess.
@marconius1341
@marconius1341 4 жыл бұрын
I think it is designed for consoles like snes en Sega megadrive in combination with component cables instead of rgb-scart.
@devilmikey00
@devilmikey00 4 жыл бұрын
Huge deal? Considering the thing is one of the few all in one options that is both affordable and doesn't require any futzing around to get working I'd hardly say it's a deal breaker. This still works on like 20+ years of retro consoles.
@marconius1341
@marconius1341 4 жыл бұрын
@@devilmikey00 but would you buy it if you already have an ossc or framemeister with rgb cables.
@xyrzmxyzptlk1186
@xyrzmxyzptlk1186 4 жыл бұрын
Metal Jesus definitely Rocked this video. Nice production work Man. Those side by side comparisons are really helpful. 🏆 🥇
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 4 жыл бұрын
And they are pretty fun to capture the footage too! It's a lot of work, but I enjoy doing it.
@SuperAlfonsoBros
@SuperAlfonsoBros 4 жыл бұрын
I was gonna try the Eon HDMI for n64 but I feel like for the price I might as well get this since it supports more than one console. Also I couldn't find the Eon anywhere new without a HUGE price hike.
@anibal12r
@anibal12r Жыл бұрын
How was your experience with this Adapter final thoughts? Hope you get too see this comment and see your review
@amdcolon1
@amdcolon1 4 жыл бұрын
Dropped in to give a like because you had the price in the title👍THANK YOU SIR👍
@franco7064
@franco7064 4 жыл бұрын
The price isn't in the thumbnail,... It's in the title.
@amdcolon1
@amdcolon1 4 жыл бұрын
@@franco7064 Title got it thanks sir👍
@franco7064
@franco7064 4 жыл бұрын
@@amdcolon1 No prob.
@philberto78
@philberto78 4 жыл бұрын
No 480p? What were they thinking?!?
@Bababaaaa
@Bababaaaa 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was interested in this but no 480p is a deal breaker.
@Gmen2010champs
@Gmen2010champs 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bababaaaa Yeah considering its a "pro". Im not trying to knock it too much because its great for pre Xbox Original consoles. But it would be nice if it could handle the higher resolutions that the orginal Xbox supports. That would be "pro". But again, its great at what it does
@link343
@link343 4 жыл бұрын
IIRC, Mike Chi mentioned its a limitation of the chip they're using in the 2x line. Mike has said on his website they're working on a separate product for 480p devices for release later in the year.
@magusvirga
@magusvirga 4 жыл бұрын
No 480p INPUT. If you’re device is already outputting 480p, then you probably don’t need this device, I feel anyways. I am absolutely lucky and blessed in that I have a GameCube component cable adapter (official, from ages ago, and yes I know how much they are now) and on regular HDTVs it’s damn near perfect, it’s basically as close to HDMI level quality video in terms of clarity and it being a pure digital signal you are going to get with analog cables. It’s amazing. That being said, not having 480p IN, is not a deal breaker as the main appeal of this for ME, and many others is being able to hook up sub 480 devices and output to HDMI that never had anything close to 480 to begin with.
@swagar
@swagar 4 жыл бұрын
It's meant for devices that output either 240p (which a lot of modern TVs won't recognize even if they have the component ports for it) or 480i (which would look awful without a good deinterlacer like this). Using a 480p upscaler for an already 480p signal would be pointless, and as mentioned in the video, there are inexpensive devices to convert to HDMI if that's all that's needed.
@lobstercoco
@lobstercoco 4 жыл бұрын
been watching your videos for a few years now and i just subscribed to your channel
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 4 жыл бұрын
This is a good day. Thanks! 😍
@lobstercoco
@lobstercoco 4 жыл бұрын
@@MetalJesusRocks keep up the good work
@Africanfrogs
@Africanfrogs 4 жыл бұрын
Should do more big box pc game videos
@SuperAlfonsoBros
@SuperAlfonsoBros 4 жыл бұрын
I love this thing. There was a firmware update that helped with the scan lines that cleaned them up a bit.
@J3ryMack
@J3ryMack 4 жыл бұрын
I only like Smooth on 3D games
@swagar
@swagar 4 жыл бұрын
If nothing else, it definitely improves the weird near-unreadable font Nintendo chose for some of the N64 Mario games.
@mattsponholz8350
@mattsponholz8350 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, Metal Jesus! I just ordered the OSSC, but might have to give this a try as well when my wallet recovers :D
@ZZKJ396
@ZZKJ396 4 жыл бұрын
Scan lines have been done wrong, there should be no overall loss if brightness. The inbetween lines should not be black, it should be at about -50% alpha blended. The actual scan lines should be +25% alpha blended.
@crandor6
@crandor6 4 жыл бұрын
I would honestly liked to have a comparison between other upscalers (OSSC or framemeister) as that's the comparison most people are looking for when they're deciding on which upscaler to buy. Also a comparison without to see what difference it makes.
@chriswalsh3149
@chriswalsh3149 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! It was so amazing to see the Amiga on your channel. I loved it as a kid and the graphics are so iconic and unique! Good work! When I win the lottery I’ll come round yeah and buy you some beers and we’ll play some games, right? Yeah we cool,... peace out!
@Tracks777
@Tracks777 4 жыл бұрын
lovely content
@-KillaWatt-
@-KillaWatt- 4 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence. I just took my Wii and playstation 2 out of storage and have been shopping around for an upscaler. Thx for the video MetalJesus. Couldn't have been more perfect timing.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
Just be aware it doesnt support 480p before purchasing. You'll have to default to 480i passthrough or 480i bob deinterlaced to 480p. For the ps2 this isnt that big of an issue cause most games arent 480p but for the wii this may bother you.
@-KillaWatt-
@-KillaWatt- 4 жыл бұрын
@@ians_parks I've read a few comments and found this isn't probably the best upscaler to buy. Any suggestions?
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
@@-KillaWatt- The retrotink2x is a great device just be aware of what it does and doesnt support. Its best used with older 240p systems. For systems like the wii, xbox etc you may look for alternative means to get a better image.
@SergioWhitestone
@SergioWhitestone 4 жыл бұрын
9:06 Burnout *Revenge*)
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 4 жыл бұрын
DOH! Yep. Mispoke LOL
@SergioWhitestone
@SergioWhitestone 4 жыл бұрын
U can't always remember everything) It's just sad that they STILL didn't make B3 backward compatible..
@JR-ko1mq
@JR-ko1mq 2 жыл бұрын
After purchasing this, I must say it’s an essential piece of equipment for vintage gaming.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Significantly darker with scanlines. Maybe a firmware update can brighten it
@RottenMuLoT
@RottenMuLoT 3 жыл бұрын
This is by design... one of 2 lines is black so it is half as bright.
@romerolemstra8747
@romerolemstra8747 4 жыл бұрын
Idk if you know this but the CDX supports RGB video so that means the HD Retrovision component cable for the Genesis will work on the CDX
@samljer
@samljer 4 жыл бұрын
Recap the C64, the darkness is a voltage drop.
@JakeRandall
@JakeRandall 4 жыл бұрын
I wish you would have used OEM cables because it’s hard to tell what improvement is actually from the retro tink as opposed to your cables
@shaunmc04
@shaunmc04 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I’m too late and you won’t see this but will you please review the 2x mini?
@oogrooq
@oogrooq 4 жыл бұрын
No 480p? Lame.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
The chip used for the retrotink2x line of devices doesnt support 480p sadly. If you need 480p support consider getting an ossc
@duffman18
@duffman18 4 жыл бұрын
People are missing the point of this. Modern TVs already support 480p This product isn't really an upscaler, it's a line doubler. It's not trying to make the signal look better, it's just making it so it works on a modern TV but also have zero lag while doing so, unlike upscalers that unavoidably introduce lag. Like this is not gonna make your NES look pixel perfect, it just sends the basic signal to the TV except the TV can now actually display it, but it's gonna still be the basic old signal that everybody used to use. But you won't get lag. So you can avoid having to buy a CRT, and you can use your huge modern TV instead of having to have two TVs in the same room next to each other and constantly have to move your seat back and forward depending on what game you wanna play
@stabinghobo57
@stabinghobo57 4 жыл бұрын
Framister or OSSC will have you covered.
@gavinburbidge5962
@gavinburbidge5962 4 жыл бұрын
I find the smoothing looks really good for certain 1st gen consoles. 2d pixel art games like the Capcom VS games on Saturn look really sharp without smoothing, but most 3d games really seem to look better.
@olacola15
@olacola15 4 жыл бұрын
The OSSC is a much better deal, especially when the OSSC Pro is just around the corner.
@amerikaOnFire
@amerikaOnFire 4 жыл бұрын
Not for people who have composite/svideo only consoles and do not want to mod or have the money to mod them. OSSC is pretty great, but it's never been the target for the non-enthusiast crowd. At least the OSSC Pro will have an svideo/composite adapter for those who need it. Then it will be an all-in-on solution for just about everyone.
@olacola15
@olacola15 4 жыл бұрын
@@amerikaOnFire The OSSC Pro will be the be all end all of the upscaler and converter world, and it will do so at an acceptable price. This thing here doesn't even do RGB and it costs even more than the OSSC.
@amerikaOnFire
@amerikaOnFire 4 жыл бұрын
@@olacola15 I am aware of what the OSSC is and what the OSSC Pro is supposed to do. I also own an RetroTink 2x (non-pro) so I know it quite well too. The price for the OSSC Pro is unknown but it will be higher than the OSSC by a solid amount. You will also have to add on the cost of the addon for composite/svideo support. There is also the fact that the product is vaporware right now and is only announced but no firm release date for hardware and the whole project isn't even open sourced yet for anybody in the DIY community. And the only OSSC's that are cheaper than the retrotink 2x is the AliExpress ones that may or may not have quality issues and can be a big gamble. And that doesn't even matter because the current OSSC doesn't even support composite/svideo which is what the retrotink is primarily created to support (and it also supports component). ALSO it does support RGB systems just fine if you get an RGB to component converter. I use one from ShinyBow and MikeChi also has converters he sells both ways: Component to RGB and RGB to Component.
@highspeedenthusiast6628
@highspeedenthusiast6628 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the information I bought the pound cable and the rad 2x for PlayStation 2 and the picture is almost identical. Immediately sent the rad2x back. Wish I had done the same with the pound cable but I'm now going to look into this ossc as you speak of...
@rafaelraad555
@rafaelraad555 4 жыл бұрын
The quality of your content never fails!
@ChrisLerouxDesign
@ChrisLerouxDesign 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think smoothing looks all that great on the 2D games, but it acts as a good means of anti-aliasing the early 3D stuff.
@BrianBoruish
@BrianBoruish 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff man, thanks for the video. Much appreciated.
@tattooedmillionair
@tattooedmillionair Жыл бұрын
@ 8:41 you say that the RetroTINK Pro doesn't take 480 input which is why the PSP did not work; but to my knowledge a PS2 is 480 and works fine. Did I miss something? (researching for PS2) Also, I wanted to say thank you MetalJesusRocks for your time putting this together for us to view/learn, and if I may be so bold as to offer my thoughts: you compare different connections and change platforms every time - I think that like showing a tire performance comparison with snow tires on a Ferrari, all weather tires on a mustang and racing slicks on a 18-wheeler Mac, and then showing how the tires preform differently.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks Жыл бұрын
There is 480i (interlaced) and 480p (progressive). The retrotink2x does not accept 480p inputs. Only outputs as 480p. The vast majority of the PS2 library is 480i (interlaced) but for the select few games that have 480p as an option the Retrotink2x won't let you take advantage of it as it won't accept the signal. You'll have to settle for 480i which is inferior to 480p. This doesn't make the PS2 incompatible, you just can't use progressive scan.
@prophismusic
@prophismusic 4 жыл бұрын
Space Taxi looks awesome! Big fan of Lunar Lander, but never heard of that one. Gems..MJR is out here dropping hidden gems ladies and gentlenerds.
@SeafoodKilla1
@SeafoodKilla1 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome revue...Thx jason
@nyccollin
@nyccollin 4 жыл бұрын
I like the intro with the smoke coming out of the skull's eyes! One problem though, we have bone behind in the eye sockets now thanks to the Mandela Effect!
@kstutz81
@kstutz81 4 жыл бұрын
God I miss..... sorry Jesus I miss Burnout 3 on XBOX OG! Never forget when I first bought my copy. I didn’t leave the house for 3 days lol. Such a great game that still holds up today.
@romerolemstra8747
@romerolemstra8747 4 жыл бұрын
Don't you have the Genesis HD-Retrovision component cable for Genesis?
@dutchkel
@dutchkel 4 жыл бұрын
I know. It needs some love. Composite is so painful
@turtle8443
@turtle8443 4 жыл бұрын
That smoothing effect is great.
@lordioris
@lordioris 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta be honest, usually I don't like these smooth filters, but this one in particular looks damn good
@skulltagfilms
@skulltagfilms 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, however I am still a bit confused with this device as I was with the previous version, how would you compare it to say a pound cable when using it for the SNES, Xbox etc? Will the retrotink do a better job or are the pound cables better/equal/or worse in output quality?
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
The retrotink2x wont add input lag or fuck up the color and brightness of your image like every hyperkin/pound/level hike cable out there.
@MrTripcore
@MrTripcore 4 жыл бұрын
We needed before and after comparison
@joshuavanrooyen5179
@joshuavanrooyen5179 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely worth it
@retrogamerfan123
@retrogamerfan123 4 жыл бұрын
I may get this so I can play my ps2 again
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
Just be aware of the lack of 480p support going in, though most of the ps2 library is 480i anyway.
@TechWithSean
@TechWithSean 4 жыл бұрын
I like the vintage computers 👍
@coryhammer9566
@coryhammer9566 4 жыл бұрын
You should have tried an S-Video cable with the C128! They were not available back in the day, but you can get one now and It plugs into the 7 pin video output port. I have one and use it with a cheap S-Video to VGA adapter and it mostly works, but I get some bad rainbow effects on screens with bright borders.
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