RetroTINK 5x: HDMI For Your Retro Consoles!!!

[@RetroRGB]

I've updated the description with links to the most commonly asked questions in the comments. Please check there to see if that covers what you were looking for...and thanks for watching!

[@mab1776]

Can you include links to audio Y splitters you used?

[@RetroRGB]

@@mab1776 Updated, thank you for reminding me.

[@ميروالحنين-ظ9ف]

ؤرابسابصشبس

[@foormiiga4755]

Hh

[@AceKC]

I am wondering there is no talk about 50Hz issues some other youtubers mentioned in their videos.

[@cicabeot1]

It’s insane to me how much this line has evolved in such a short amount of time. I imagine that instant resolution switching will be a huge selling point to people who wanna play games with the Chrono Cross pause menu.

[@skydwellingmusic]

Mike Chi really is a wizard

[@TBelly]

Mike Chi really deserves some type of award. 1 year later and he has 4K coming for retro.

[@TheMoises1213]

Did it come out?

[@TBelly]

@@TheMoises1213 not yet

[@TheMoises1213]

@@TBelly been over a year lol. Do you own a 5x?

[@TBelly]

@@TheMoises1213 yes. The 5X is AMAZING.

[@TheMoises1213]

@@TBelly Do you use it on like a ps2 equivalent on a 4k tv? I have the Porta which is basically all a person needs. I wanna know if it’s better

[@energyzer_bunny1913]

The downscaling features are actually the reason why I personally would want a RetroTink5x. I'm glad you covered the downscaling in detail!

[@nearvanaman]

This video is about three hours shorter than I was hoping for but it's fine.

[@RetroRGB]

Hahahahaa...maybe I'll do a livestream and take requests for what consoles people want me to show :) Thanks for watching!

[@64-Bit-Gamer]

Watch it 5 times.

[@noonethatspecial]

Or wait for MLIG to review it.

[@WillParker322]

@@RetroRGB MLiG did that on sunday the 2nd

[@DillerDallerDuller]

@@64-Bit-Gamer 5x you mean

[@mjc0961]

Almost 40 minutes! Thanks for working so hard to get this out in time for us to watch before the 5x goes on sale!

[@SirSethery]

As someone who is super sensitive to input lag, I appreciate the Lag talking points. I would agree about 2 frames is not noticeable to most people. I can notice about 1 extra frame of lag only in games that I'm very familiar with and am really good at. Half a frame is what I'd call completely imperceivable for my own enjoyment, though I'm sure if I was a hardcore speedrunner I'd still reach for that CRT.

[@BRKsEDU]

What an amazing video. Thanks for the info, especially showing the transition between 240p and 480i when capturing gameplay in triple buffer.

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks so much!

[@lucasfacapinco]

Eai, Duduzinho, pensei q vc nem se importava com os retrogames, kkk

[@foreversleepy4379]

At the beginning, I just wanted to get my old consoles looking good on a modern display, but now I have a degree in video signals, video cables, analogue video, deinterlacers and scaling algorithms.

[@jimbailey3998]

What a great, thorough, explanation of the 5X. Thank you. I'm an old DOS / Atari 800 Guy who is slowly getting his 1983 Atari 800 and 810 back up and running in a "new world" of HDMI and flat screens.

[@ShmupJunkie]

As usual you’re one of the few channels I need to watch for a tech vid. I thought I’d never need to replace my ossc but given the simplicity of this product, it’ll replace both that and my vp50 pro I use with it for better deinterlacing as the bob mode hurts my eyes. Thank you for this work!

[@PersianImm0rtal]

Wow, this is a game changer for anyone like me who doesn't want to deal with figuring out the best settings. Thank you for all you do for the community Bob, and also thank you to the entire RetroTink team, this is a great product.

[@AlexChipman]

This is where I am right now. Have an ossc but find all the settings that need to be tweaked for optimal image a barrier to entry. I'll hold on to my ossc until the price for the 5x goes down once chip prices have stabilized.

[@GabumaneTV]

God I am SO excited for the next run. Mike is such a genius congrats to him on a successful launch

[@GhostHand7]

Was prepping to build out an OSSC setup recently since I wanted the 5x scaling and then Mike drops this. Amazing timing and can't wait to try this out. Great video Bob!

[@g8mes4life]

I just got into the rabbit hole of retro gaming and your videos are my bible. Easy to understand and extremely helpful for beginners like me. Thank you so much, your work is awesome.

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks so much for the kind words!!!

[@VideogameBucko]

We can always count on you for a great review Bob. The 5x having downscaling too really took me by surprise. It's kind of amazing to think the OSSC was 2016. When Markus came up with it, it was only supposed to be a replacement for the XRGB3, that it grew into something that could, in many setups, replace the FM too was remarkable really.

[@DentedRazor]

Thanks for not saying "Ditch your old solution and get a RetroTink 5x". It helps me a lot of be practical, keep my Framemeister (which I only use for streaming), and let someone else who has no upscaling solution get a fantastic one for themselves. Thanks for an amazing video!

[@teller_of_truths6499]

This was my gift to myself for my birthday next week.

[@matthewl1187]

I just ordered a Retrotink 5x and can't wait to get it. I bought a used 32" Dell monitor with a crap ton of inputs on it and figured it'd be a good gaming monitor. Hooked my systems up and was enjoying it quite a bit. I also bought a set of HD retro vision component cables for my PS2 and let me tell ya how much of a difference just the cables made to the image quality of PS2 games! It was like night and day difference. I literally can't wait to get this scaler and see what it'll do. Thanks again my friend for your informative videos and I used your affiliate links for a couple of cables.

[@nelson6891]

Excellent video, thank you for your helpful information

[@EposVox]

Great video, Bob!!!

[@MrBenedictHeyer]

Those downscaling features look really cool! I was really surprised by a solution to playing the classic mini consoles on a CRT :D

[@Ballowax]

I used the downscaling to play my Xbox 360 games on a CRT in 240p with component cables plugged in to the 5X.

[@techtinker5089]

Holy crap. Perfect timing for me. Had no idea this was in the works.

[@albey1816]

Well if you didn't know this was in the works, what about the Console specific versions Mike has already made that will be coming out soon. Much smaller and scaling to 5X also. They are called the '5X-Direct'

[@Matt-qw6ui]

While the price is higher than I expected, this looks to be one powerful scaler and I’ll definitely invest in one. Great work from Mike Chi.

[@anerdguynow]

I just recently started getting into retro gaming but I am in awe of your knowledge and dedication to the scene. Thank you!

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks for watching!

[@BambooShadow]

5:41 best sponsor announcement since.... EVER! Great job Bob! Hope that there'll be enough supporters to keep you around!

[@RastaJediX]

This video is so excellent for beginners that I really think Mike should link to it on his product page. I'm so glad you do what you do, Bob. Many folks are beginners and if this product and video existed when I was a beginner, it would have been a lifesaver!

[@boywithanearring]

I don't even own any retro video consoles but i like these videos

[@arcluna]

I’m new to trying to make my old games look better and so far have only tried the hd retrovision component cables for my ps2 to go with my Sony x950. I came across MLiG and RetroRGB and I feel like I’m way more informed and comfortable with investing in the retrotink 5x. Truly, wholeheartedly,thank you for this wonderful video (and all the other work you do). Bob, you’re truly an asset to this community.

[@RetroRGB]

Thank you so much for watching! I'm so glad we could be a help!

[@RommulusRemus]

Watching this video it boggles the mind the shear amount of man hours it must have taken to setup/breakdown/capture/edit this video. You don't get paid enough Bob.

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks so much for recognizing that. This video took about 60 hours start to finish...not counting the months of testing the RT5x. That was the really fun part though :)

[@mikematei]

Awesome video! Also interested to see how it compares to OOSC Pro. I assume you'll do a video on that later too. 👍🏻

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks! And absolutely...I'm reviewing all the amazing new scalers coming out :)

[@gregosicko]

Thank you for all the work and effort you put into creating great and comprehensive videos.

[@ArtemioUrbina]

Awesome content Bob, Mike did an excellent product and you made a killer review. Thanks!

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks so much Artemio!

[@yeolemillinial8295]

i always found that a great demonstration of how input lag can effect gameplay is megaman 2 flashman stage, the 1 hit kill beams there become impossible to get past once you start to hit around 35 ms lag i think it was, can't remember the exactly ms anymore but i know there was threshold where it just downright became impossible.

[@DdragonPT]

fantastic video. Thank you for the amazing content you are creating!

[@cybernitemusic]

Holy crap. I didn’t think there could be something better than the Ossc but this is it. I’m getting one for sure. Along with everyone else haha

[@Andrew_Thrift]

For me, the S-Video on the RetroTrink 5X makes it better

[@ttvp]

That straight ribbon SCART cable looks so unusual, like a computer mainframe hookup in an 80s movie, I love it! Oh yeah, and excellent overview as always, Bob! I just wish I could afford something like that lol.

[@tubinonyou]

I believe it's the same one I have which I purchased from RetroGamingCables. Solid cable in every sense of the word!

[@abletothink]

I'm going to get this and sell my Framemeister on eBay. This seems to be a much simpler solution for my uses and I won't have to mess with loading up FirebrandX's console profiles every time I play another system. Good review as always Bob.

[@RideRedRacer]

I had to sell my framemeister years ago. The input lag is terrible

[@JohnRiggs]

Downscaling is a huge selling point for me.

[@chchris25]

That’s one of the main reasons why I purchased this.

[@KuuchWizard]

J Riggs! You da man

[@youboob1996]

Are there any other modern devices that do the downscale to 240p???

[@tapetraining]

What capture card can you use with this?

[@joelcastro-reyes1667]

​@@tapetrainingElgato capture cards work well with it, based off a few KZbinrs I've seen who use the 5x.

[@charli-cuti]

This is the best informercial that Mr Chi could have ever asked for.

[@Anemptybox]

Bought the Retrotink 5x yesterday, looking forward to playing with it. Great job on the video, Bob!

[@Frank-x1g]

Have you tried this yet on PS2 or OG Xbox?

[@hh4hooch]

Mike is so cool :D He's a good egg.

[@CanadianFuzzy]

@@eltroopertekken bad eggs smell

[@RetroRGB]

@@eltroopertekken It's a compliment used often in the US, but I never understood where it came from. LOL, it's a nice thing to say though, so I'm okay with it :)

[@chrisjenkins5707]

@@RetroRGB I like to imagine it comes from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and the “bad egg” scene.

[@Gamingpastime64]

Excellent video, my friend. Looking forward to trying this out. The only reason we're still keeping our Framemeister connected is because it can also accept HDMI inputs. This was very informative. Thank you.

[@TheMikeyb86]

And here I am saving for OSSC pro. I think, for my purposes, the Tink5x is my stop.

[@GuyManley]

This is the product I was waiting for retrotink to make. I just didn't know it yet.

[@xmaverickhunterkx]

Retro community: Everyone hates bob. Also retro community: Everyone loves Bob.

[@bryceramsey2290]

definitely going to downscale undertale to look perfect on my crt when my 5x arrives, didn't even know about this feature

[@-dash]

That downscaling stuff is interesting. I’d love to be able to output Retroarch to my CRT for arcade games like Dodonpachi, which used 240x320. Obtaining an old VGA-capable GPU seems like a hassle considering driver compatibility and so forth- it would be awesome if there were a retrotink downscaling product exclusively focusing on this feature.

[@whosonedphone]

Bob! You've asked about watching old 480i TV shows with the Retrotink 5x? IT'S AWESOME!!! Been watching Voyager DVD's on my stock PS2. The DAC on the PS2 is amazing BTW.

[@Eric_Plunk]

If it’s the Ultimate Retrotink then I’m gonna need Ultimate Warrior face paint on the casing...

[@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct]

When you power on the Ultimate RetroTink, it gives off a loud *SKRONK*

[@Eric_Plunk]

@@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct Then an Ultimate Warrior sprite comes on screen and shakes the scanlines like ring ropes...

[@brkbtjunkie]

I’m a huge fan of downsampling on PC, to see it for consoles is definitely very cool

[@notsuoh16Bit]

Thanks for the video, you have made my mind up, my OSSC is for sale ❤️💚💙😊👍🇦🇺

[@ottograf85]

Watched this video last night and it reminded me to catch the preorder this morning. Thanks for the informative take!

[@ajsliter]

I just got it. Goddamn Mike Chi you are a Saint! Goodbye grainy OSSC output on my TV, Goodbye Sync Issues. Hello Crisp and Clear RGB Output from my SNES regardless if it is HD Retrovision Component Cables or Insurrection Industries RGB SCART Cables.. The first time I saw the Zelda Link to the past Title Screen on RGB I was like "What is this Witchcraft?" Even the S-Video on my N64 looks much better compared to the OSSC. I still have to switch inputs, 4:3 and 16:9 aspect ratio and also scanlines on and off depending on the game and resolution as nitpicks, but other than that it is a completely plug and play solution that replaces two upscalers/transcoders with big box transformers on the plugs with one convenient USB cable. Probably uses less than a 10th of the power those two scalers did. Again Mike Chi you are a GOD of Upscalers!

[@carloscervantes6061]

So happy i was able to grab one! Great Video Bob!

[@kemy6775]

I’m switching over when these are available again.

[@KrakenLatte]

Thank you for such a detailed video! I've been watching a few of your videos where you talk about this stuff as I've been trying to get into retro gaming, but it's been frustrating trying to get it to look right. Now I understand A LOT MORE of how this all works and I can get it right. In my case, my upscaler was the issue, so I'm certainly buying a Retrotink. THANK YOU.

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks for watching!

[@diegoraimundo11]

Great review. Really appreciate your work!

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks for watching!

[@RetroSetJoe]

Did the man just say Bob and Weave?! Seriously, good video Bob! I ordered mine Saturday and am (im)patiently waiting for it to get here!

[@ajsliter]

Finally Something to replace my OSSC (that doesn't work with my TV half the time) with something that is better than the OSSC.

[@MrMegaManFan]

Bob you’re a champion. Hope you’re feeling better!

[@RetroRGB]

Thank you!

[@poorcomputerman6200]

I would love to see a video on how this compares to the individual console mods like the PS1 digital. Do the individual mods make a significant difference? I know nothing is better than digital to digital, but how much? Anyone have preliminary info on differences?

[@DominickArena]

WOW! Just amazing features. I have the Mini 2x and it helped my SNES on a flat panel (thru S-Video) ALOT but all in all went back to a CRT thru S-Video to look correct. I will be getting this device. Thanks for the in depth video. You know your shit and I appreciate it.

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks for watching!

[@waydown2552]

I'd also say tv compatibility makes the RetroTink 5X Pro an easy winner over the OSSC. OSSC was/is a great device, but the tv compatibility issues were super annoying. I'll be glad to retire mine as I no longer have to worry about whether my scaler is compatible when I go to buy a new tv.

[@vasilas432]

….which means SNES plays flawlessly without jitter issue like on ossc?

[@waydown2552]

​@@vasilas432 Yep. Supposedly it solves the issues that the OSSC had with the SNES. It's more like the Framemeister which doesn't have those compatibility issues.

[@vasilas432]

@@waydown2552 That would be great! Me watching this video later, now RetroTink is sold out. Considering worldwide chip shortage,it can be really disappointing!

[@waydown2552]

​@@vasilas432 Yep. It's exciting that something as sharp as the OSSC now exists without all the limitations. I could not play my NES or SNES on my tv through the OSSC. I always had to use a Framemeister.

[@vasilas432]

@@waydown2552 I sold framemeister a few months ago. Comparing with an OSSC was a disappointment. But now I have issue with SNES.

[@insomniamonkey]

I'd love to see more of a breakdown of the downscaling you did for the switch and the mini consoles. I think thats so cool!

[@ClassicDOOM]

This was great. Cheers. :)

[@mrmostlyharmless]

The downscaling makes me wanna buy a new Retrotink for my PVM!

[@JPdelaGhetto]

I have a 2X Pro, 2X Multiformat, and OSSC. I’m almost positive I want the 5X purely based on the triple buffering fixing my biggest OSSC complaint ... resolution switching. I’ll gladly give up one frame of lag to not get black outs or see full game intros and menu transitions. Pretty much waiting for your call if I should set my alarm to wake up and order one tomorrow :)

[@mikematthews8796]

Great video Bob and awesome product Mike!

[@KoncadeGaming]

Are the 10 people who gave this video a thumbs down dillusional? Very good video Bob, was searching all week for a decent overview vid for Tink5x this is perfect! 👍

[@grumpyoldgeezr]

Gonna keep going with my trusty and beloved Framemeister. The profile saving option is essential for me. Retrotink 5x looks like a great device though.

[@vorenge]

Mike Chi fan club member here

[@Retrowizja64]

Thank you for this greate video :) I will stay with my RGB Mini for now but when i finally get my hands on PVM monitor this downscale options is realy strong argument for purchase. Sory for my not the best english. All the best from Poland for you!

[@RetroRGB]

Your English is great! Thanks for watching!

[@FFKpar]

Do you know if smoothing is something that could be added back in with a firmware update? Or is there something missing hardware wise?

[@Dagasm]

As alway, you're an invaluable asset for technical retro gaming info. 👍

[@RetroRGB]

Thank you!

[@krankymann]

the Rad2X's are basically impossible to buy, I hope the 5X will be more available but yeah I feel like they will be in short supply.

[@albey1816]

Almost anything from Retrogamingcables is hard to get and out of stock post Covid.

[@ians_parks]

I imagine its difficult sourcing parts rn.

[@krankymann]

@@partoftheproblem4899 I don't mind that most of my consoles I am aiming for digital conversion mods (Got DC, Wii so far xbox is next) but from what i have read this will never happen for the Saturn.

[@Renk1]

Thanks for the video! Just got mine today and updated the firmware. Now, onto testing!

[@KyoshoLP]

I was thinking I was going to regret my GBS-C AIO purchase when this thing came out, but based on the price, I'm good. I know the 5x will have somewhat better colors, but, yeah. Some day, eventually. But I'm good for now. Hell, maybe the HD Retrovision "HDMIzer" will be out by then. Hah! Yeah right! :P

[@chchris25]

I apply scanlines to modern consoles by using the RT5X in tandem with the RT2XM. The R55X downscales to a 15KHz signal and the RT2XM upscales the signal with scanlines. These scanlines look amazing on modern displays and blows out of the water the cheap HDMI scanline generators. 👍

[@MaxaMillion711]

My body is ready

[@dlang6487]

Can't wait to grab one of these! Also, I have 2 Sinden Lightguns with recoil that I use. Say the word, and I can send one out for you to test!

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks Dave! Maybe after I finally catch up with everything I missed, I might have time to test that!

[@ians_parks]

More coming in June/July if you missed out guys.

[@madmartigan9931]

Bob, that was a great video. I was unsure if I wanted one since I have an OSSC, but your video sold me.

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks!

[@wobblingpixels3921]

Here are the topics of the 36min long vdeo: 00:00​ Intro 01:38​ Basic Use 03:19​ Overview 05:58​ Resolutions 13:59​ Features 16:38​ Deinterlacing 18:45​ Comb Filter 20:09​ Features (cont) 20:53​ Downscaling 25:53​ Lag Testing 30:30​ Comparison 33:00​ Dislikes 36:08​ Final Thoughts

[@brett1586]

How did you get the time stamps if the video didn't premier yet

[@wobblingpixels3921]

@@brett1586 check the video description ;)

[@brett1586]

@@wobblingpixels3921 oh okay

[@hhectorlector]

@@wobblingpixels3921 wait if they're in the video description then why comment them lol

[@wobblingpixels3921]

@@hhectorlector Check the comment above. because they are "hidden" in the video description and most of the time ppl don't read the description.

[@derekdash2179]

I’m a big fan of using scan lines with my Framemeister along with retro mode with my classic consoles. I find “smart x2” works best as the scan lines look properly spaced as opposed to any of the other modes. I’m left with an image that doesn’t stretch full screen, but I’m fine with that.

[@Sammmmmmmm617]

Flat Earth isn't real?! Guess it's time to buy a Retro Tink 5x then!

[@thebombingsoda]

As someone who uses AV cable for all my non HDMI consoles, this will be a massive improvement (a genesis with AV looks awful)

[@hhectorlector]

wow 6 dislikes?? must be people that just bought Framemeisters @_@

[@RideRedRacer]

No one should be buying framemeisters in 2021. That thing is terrible for gaming

[@AlfaTrion]

what a fantastic in-depth video! thanks Bob!

[@cortezbaldur413]

Ur voice is so relaxing I nearly fell asleep to ur comforting voice

[@RetroRGB]

Thank you!

[@overdriver99]

Thanks Bob and Mike Chi! It looks like fantastic product! I think Mike integrates lots of thought on this. I hope OSSC Pro would be easier to set than regular OSSC. I have 2 OSSC but navigating menu on OSSC is problem. This would look much simpler.. I would buy it when it is available.

[@solarstrike33]

Yeah...about the OSSC Pro... ;(

[@RetroGames4K]

I love the way it looks. It's really awesome that crt.

[@tubinonyou]

The 1440p and triple frame buffer are quite tempting but I can't justify the upgrade at $300! (I was in at about $200, for sure). I'll stick with the OSSC for now. I am quite interested in the OSSC pro which I know will probably be more but it's awesome to have options!

[@TheCoolDave]

Thanks for info. I was just wondering what (spec wise) it was, and you did as normal give tons of info. No plans on upgrading from my Framemeister ! It works fine for me.

[@beansoup1088]

Thank you Bob and Mike! 💪

[@DamienCooley]

I was able to order one of these so I am watching this now - I wasn't going to if I couldn't get one and make myself sad.

[@wettuga2762]

I love this, it's the ideal device to connect to a SCART switch, and the overscan option partially hides the top and bottom of the image like old TVs do! Forget OSSC, Retrotink2x, Framemeister, and whatever other converters are out there! I want THIS ONE! Now, who's going to buy me one? :)

[@TheRestartPoint]

Amazing device, thanks for the heads-up, looks like I need to sell my 2x right now, towards the 300 UKP it's going to cost (at least the Retro Tink website is being upfront about DHL charging UK £50 for shipping plus £50 for customs charge)

[@andrebaxter4023]

Stumbled upon this video by the algorithm. I have a retrotink 5x pro on the way and I'm excited to try it. Have a ps2 with component cables and want to improve the quality of my jrpg classics even more. Hopefully this is goodbye to those jagged edges on lines that should be smooth. 🤞🏽 Update after starting to watch your video. That Sonic 2 looks crisp. 💪🏽

[@andrebaxter4023]

Third update. After receiving the Retrotink 5x and tinkering with the settings, Lunar Silver Star Story Complete looks amazing on my 4k tv. Loving the product.