REVEALED - The TRAGEDY that left no trace - TRUE CRIME NEWQUAY CORNWALL

[@dthomp06]

Mum and Dad honeymooned in Newquay in 1956. They proudly showed me where their Bed and Breakfast was a few years ago. They drove down from Hertfordshire in an old Austin 7! They have photos of them with their board for surfing. They are 89 and 91 yrs old now! They met a family with a little girl who my Dad thought was wonderful. She was named Derin. They loved her name so much, that a year later they named me after her. So Newquay has special meaning to me.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Awww! What a sweet story! Sarah :)

[@rogerferris3720]

I love the things you guys dig up for content in your videos. Always interesting, greatly adds to the beauty of our wonderful homeland. God bless you both.

[@esthermorrissey1454]

We watched this last night and loved the story telling together with the wonderful scenery of Newquay. We now feel very old ha ha! It is good to have you both back on our screens - Fridays are not the same without you both.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Awww! Thank you! Sarah :)

[@StephenMoody-q2j]

Lovely to bump into you both last week in Newquay and be involved in a 'cameo role'! We had a fantastic week, also did the Oratory walk to Perranporth, Bedruthan and over to St Mawes. Thank you for all you do.

[@markjose2195]

It would appear that the toilet block has changed at least twice since the murder. The current block is quite new. I had, along with my friend, a strange occurence whilst night fishing at the old lifeboat slip area. it was very quiet all evening and we were looking around when we spotted a man walk to the (older) toilet block and walk inside. Not terribly unusual, however, the man never came out! We watched the area for a good hour, but nothing. When we left, we walked to our motorcycles, which were parked by the toilets and decided to just check that the man hadn't had a medical episode. There was nobody there. I am certain we didn't miss anyone exit the toilet block. We always found the area a bit creepy after that, but I had no idea about the murder there until watching your video just now!

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Oooo! That is weird! What a great story! Sarah :)

[@jetlagsenior8491]

Great story 👌 as always, keep up the good work, much appreciated ❤️

[@alexmac337]

Another fabulous video. I watched it with my mom, who lived in St Ives back in the 50's. She doesn't remember this event but she did tell me about about the hauntings that happened in area back then. She used to live in a hotel called Skiden House where weird things used to happen but she says someone eles in the town was also experiencing weird stuff- the full poltergeist works apparently! If anyone on here had similar experiences, I would love to hear about them.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Wow! That sounds interesting and also quite scary! Sarah :)

[@dianaporter3132]

A fabulous video as always. The Pentire hotel is behind the Fistral beach hotel you pointed out and is still running as a hotel, thankfully. I had the pleasure of meeting you both (after I got my husband to stop the car) on that day after you had just filmed. It was lovely talking to you and i must say I felt a little star struck! Very interesting story.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Hello! Thanks for chatting with us - it was lovely to meet you! Sarah :)

[@kimtozer5517]

I remember Andy Pandy. I was so jealous of his outfit. I was a tiny toddler. Think the weeks holiday was called Wakes Week. Factories shut for a week and all the workers went away

[@CharlieBubbles32]

Yes, this is correct....I was born in Oldham and, along with many other families, mine used to come down on holiday for two weeks in the 60s. We stayed in Mother Ivy's Bay and were fortunate to eventually move to Newquay in 1980. Never heard of this murder, despite having long-standing ties to the town. Great video as usual.

[@jankitteringham8483]

Thankyou both, such a tragic story for what should have been a lovely holiday. . 🥰🇬🇧

[@cathyfield4765]

Looking forward to seeing the video of your continued research into the unsolved green shirt murder.

[@traceymayo1583]

I did actually have a look online about this sad case. I found out that he was a retired milkman on his last day on his holiday with his wife. Such an awful thing to happen.. I enjoyed watching your video about it :)

[@paulinefoster1126]

My husband and I went on our honeymoon to Newquay in September 1967. We stayed in the Trenance hotel over looking the beach we had a lovely room with a bay window. The name of the owner miss Major and her mother . It’s was breakfast lunch and dinner the food was lovely.

[@jackym61]

I was in Newquay this week 2 years ago, so it was lovely to see it again! Would love to go back. ❤

[@paulanoyce7646]

perfect timing, just made my morning cuppa, turned on youtube, and your latest popped up 20 seconds ago. ❤

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Hope you enjoyed it! Sarah :)

[@amazinggrace4036]

You have amazing stories in those vintage books! So amazing….thank you Sarah….. and thank you again got my post and found a sweet white picture frame for it! Thank you again for all you do and love your artwork in my wall! Ana 🌹😊

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

That's good to know! I always take a deep breath when sending art abroad so it it good to know that it arrived, Sarah :)

[@amazinggrace4036]

@@CornishWalkingTrails got it! Still in good connection England and the US … no worries…arrived safe and sound and thank for the lovely card. 🌹be well … love your content relaxing and simple! 🌼

[@davidclinch1358]

That was fascinating, if a bit gruesome. Thanks for another great vlog. Interestingly for us, we were walking the South West Coast Path through Newquay on July 1st this year and it was good to see where we walked once more.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Glad you enjoyed it! Sarah :)

[@ncammann]

I was a day old that day, so it wasn't me.

[@Hedgehogsinthemist123]

I was born in 1964 and grew up just outside Newquay. Newquay and Cornwall in general was just fabulous back then. My parents and every neighbour and friends’ parents did B&Bs. We grew up sleeping on Z beds in the kitchen or an outdoor shed from Easter to the end of the season in September because we gave up our property to guests. Newquay is not a place I recognise now, although the beaches haven’t changed much.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Our neighbours used to move into a caravan and let their property over the summer in the 90s. It gave them a little windfall every year. We have new neighbours from out of county and I can't see that they would need to do that! Sarah :)

[@liannetoop1785]

I have that very book! Strange Happenings in Cornwall, an excellent read which I've had for Many years 😊

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

An excellent book! Sarah :)

[@AmandaBrown-nu7wo]

There was a travelling fairground in newquay that summer.wonder if anyone was questioned.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Good thought! I wonder, Sarah :)

[@jessicastrideart]

It’s funny you should be talking about the colour of shirts! Two weeks ago we were walking along Towans Headland and a toothless old man stopped and pointed at my husband’s bright yellow floral shirt and started laughing saying you won’t be missed in that!👀 How rude!😆Interesting video Sarah and Andrew, loved it!

[@johnwhitehouse4100]

As a 8 year old traveling from the Midlands it took 15 hours to get down , but it set my dream to live here and my dream came true , we !I've !I've to The full , we've travelled the world but Cornwall was my peaceful place ! We have lived a wonderful life in Cornwall without taking housing or jobs from true Cornish folks . In fact our small business we set up only employs Cornish adults and hopefully have a chance to set roots in a home of there own but this is our

[@johnwhitehouse4100]

Absolutely love your posts , we always follow up with doing the walks ❤

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

That's wonderful! Sarah :)

[@JoannaLouise200]

Looks like Newquay's morphing into 'Costa Fistralia' with all those monolithic apartment blocks. So pleased Headland Hotel still graces the cliffs with its gentle old world grandeur. What a sad story for that couple & family enjoying the last day of their holiday by the sea. Poor Mrs Hand ~ left sitting in their car wondering where on earth her husband was. The unfortunate Mr Hand would probably have survived today (advances in medicine) to tell his story. Love the photo comparison detective work with the old chimney stack. It's a real cold case mystery!

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Glad you enjoyed the story and the video. Very interesting and puzzling crime! Sarah :)

[@tractorgirl8124]

Fantastic video well done ❤👏👍🤩

[@pilesofparagraphs]

Very interesting story, so sad. Also one of my all time biggest fears! We always enjoy your story telling. Great research always shows. Thanks for all you do.

[@TravellingTorunn]

Interesting story, and a relatiely recent one. At least not ancient 😄 I remenber 1958. I was 4 years old, andI remember some details from a summer holiday. I also remember the Everly Brothers, but that was some years later 😄 Great video! Thank you🥰 Torunn.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Hello Torunn! Glad you enjoyed the story - we found it interesting too, Sarah :)

[@neilcurson4505]

Your making me feel old! First visit to NQ aged 19 in 1960 staying at the St Branocks Hotel, now Premier inn. Honeymoon in 1969 staying at the Beachcroft Hotel now Travelodge/Aldi. Fortnight each time hardly any motorway, 370 miles from Burnley. Visited most years since, down for the third time this year in a fortnight, probably when the good weather breaks!!!

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

I am sure the sun will shine for some of the time! Sarah :)

[@SpanishEclectic]

You have more than your usual building detective work on this one. Good call about the roof line, and comparison with the old photo. We take our modern conveniences (no pun intended) for granted. Today green shirt guy would have ended up on somebody's Facebook page, lol. I'm imagining there might have been bloody fingerprints on the front page of the newspaper...

[@annettebanham4205]

You always find interesting stories…very sad in this case. We’ve just come back from holiday in Cornwall and everywhere we went we said oh remember when Sarah and Andrew went here! ☺️x

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Such a sad story. We get around!! I think we have covered most of Cornwall! Sarah :)

[@annettebanham4205]

@@CornishWalkingTrails You certainly have and have really helped us discover Cornish gems 😁

[@adrianbew9641]

Actually in 1958 very few cornish People had a TV, and like us listened to radio instead, many rural areas didn't have electricity until 62 when there was a big mains connection drive . I remember TV from 66 onwards with coronation Street and grandstand on saturdays with my grandad. I was six before electric and remember tilly lamps as main source of lighting.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Wow! Thanks for sharing! Very interesting! Sarah :)

[@judynewman3816]

I spent two weeks in St Ives in 1959, with my family. I was listening to Cliff Richard’s Living Doll. There I fell in love with Cornwall.

[@JoannaLamont333]

Brilliant video & really interesting, thank you.

[@steveoliver1163]

Saw your doubles in Polperro this morning , Thursday 26th. Couldn’t see the go pro 😊😊

[@YvetteWINSTONE-bl8jr]

Do love the stories s you do along with the beautiful scenery. Be it this one was very sad.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Thank you! Sarah :)

[@bobspeller2225]

Another interesting but sad story from Cornwall, I could have been on holiday then with my brothers and his family, (I was 11 years old then) and my first time in Cornwall. Thanks for the fantastic memories. (PS I didn't have a green shirt)

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Thank you! Sarah :)

[@CarolDakin]

I lived in Newquay at the time and remember the hunt for the man in a green shirt but don't remember mention of the lads who supposedly saw him. I was 12 and steered clear of Fistral Beach for a while after that.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Gosh! I would have steered clear too! Sarah :)

[@bernicebest]

You do find the most interesting stories, but very tragic in this case …. I’m struggling to comment as it’s a challenge to comment after I had a stroke just after my birthday end of august it’s left me disoriented and unsteady …. a great video and theories as to what did really happen …. We would have been on holiday in our twenties somewhere in Cornwall around that time …. It gives me the shivers:) look forward to your follow up on the man in the green shirt 👕 I guess Andrew will have his detective hat on …. It’s sounding a bit like an unsolved Agatha Christie mystery though! 🤗

[@JoannaLouise200]

All well wishes Bernice. Hope you're feeling better soon x

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Hello Bernice, so sorry to hear you have been unwell. I hope you make a good receovery soon, Sarah :)

[@bernicebest]

@@JoannaLouise200 Thank you very much Joanna, very kind of you, it’s a slow process, but I’ll get there. 🤗

[@bernicebest]

@@CornishWalkingTrails Thank you Sarah, it was a bit of a shock, had a wonderful birthday party on the 25th Aug. followed by this, could have been worse though at least I have the use of my arms and hands thank goodness …. the worst was having no sleep for five nights on an all male ward …. Lots of snoring and coughing going on ….. had to resort to cotton wool in my ears especially In the RMI scan 😅

[@PhilipInCoventry]

My last stay in Newquay was 1981. Staying at the Edgcliffe Hotel. Sadly, it was too near the edge. Nothing remains of it now.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Oh! Coastal erosion! Sarah :)

[@Polopony]

My questions would be: if robbery were the motive, why would it be necessary to actually terminate a 'frail' 65 year old man rather than just use threats to induce him to hand over his wallet, especially if the money wasn't then found and taken; why take the time and trouble to wrap the stone in newspaper first (certainly implies premediation, but also hasty/opportunistic selection of handy nearby materials); was the wife also treated as a suspect; if she was, did the police search the couple's car and find a copy of the Daily Mail missing its front page containing the possibly inspirational story of another marital dispute gone terribly wrong...

[@AnthropoidOne]

That hotel was used in The Witches in 1990. Mr. Bean was in it. I’ve seen that 20 times probably 🤣🤣🇺🇸

[@HonarySpock]

Excellent video and wow your going to my home town of Bude. That should be interesting. I will be visiting relatives there in 3 weeks time

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Love Bude! We will be making that video soon! Sarah :)

[@jameskrell4392]

I can’t remember 1953 as it was two years before I was born but in 1973 it was still common to book full board or half board for a full week. I still have a receipt for the Tropicana Hotel in Dawlish Devon somewhere for September 1973. Two of us got half board for two weeks and it was £34!. The hotel owner was a butcher from Bovey Tracy and his wife ran the hotel. As you would expect we dined on some splendid meats. It would be 1976 before I ventured into Cornwall.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

That is very interesting - thanks for sharing! Sarah :)

[@ravenwing8842]

The easiest way to hide is in plain sight, therefore I quite fancy Andrew’s theory that the man in the green shirt was created by the three lads to throw the police off the scent. The three lads never seem to have been suspected and incredibly odd, given how many people were interviewed that no one else seems to have seen the guy in the green shirt. Fascinating and very sad. Will be interested to see if you find a connection to the case in Bude, or whether the murderer left his fingerprints on the front page of the paper in Newquay, so ripped it off in an effort to conceal his identity.❤

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Good thought! Remove the evidence to prevent detection, Sarah :)

[@cornwallparanormalresearch2378]

Good watch ⌚ like and shared out in you tube community.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Cheers! Thank you! Sarah :)

[@cornwallparanormalresearch2378]

@@CornishWalkingTrails J green more than welcome keep the videos coming. 📹

[@sandrapearson728]

Now I feel really old, I loved Andy Pandy too. It’s possible for the police to compare DNA with that on ancestry sites now. I heard a podcast where this was done only yesterday. I wonder whether the man in the green shirt did find Harold and made the phone call but realised he would be a suspect so did a disappearing act. So sad for his family that we will never know. Great video guys

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Good thought! I guess you are running the gauntlet with ancestry sites these days! Sarah :)

[@arthurdanielles4784]

As a kid in the late 60s I dated the daughter of the owner of the Trenance hotel. I worked at the 'Cosy Nook' theatre as an usher part time during summer holidays. Ah happy days none of the drug infested c pit it is now.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

A very different town these days! Sarah :)

[@Mounhas]

Going to NQY airport my bus took me via Newquay town. Gosh, the town is huge and the town centre is tacky.

[@helenbosworth5950]

Interesting in Newquay enjoy this

[@cynthiastogden7000]

I was 13!!! Holidays, what were those? I did take the train on my own in 1964 to Newquay foot loose and fancy free.

[@EllenPetersson-zs8wc]

You tow❤ silly, serious and cam.

[@melgrant7404]

Love Mawgan Porth.❤

[@onebagbeachclean6721]

I was actually born in 1958! That’s how old I am!! I do remember Noddy and Dixon of Dock Green! 😂

[@bookprincess612]

Such a tragedy for the family...sad Story. Like you said there are some questions left. But for sure: the murderer lost his soul by killing this poor man and I hope the murderer hadn't had any happy day until the end of his life !!

[@user-Juneybee53]

How sad and sadder still the killer wasn't caught, poor wife and family, a horrible end to what would of been the holiday of the year.😢 As for Andy Pandy.. I detested him, little smarty pants and at the end he always shut Teddy out of the Toy Box when he got in with the doll and what I ask myself was, what was he up to that Teddy wasn't allowed to witness??? Hmmm another mystery to investigate at your peril 😮😮😮😮😅 Thanks guys xx

[@lindsay161]

The year i was born in launceston 😂😂🤣😂 then bought up in Penzance

[@cathrynbagley8005]

How many hours do you spend reading the old books to dig out the stories ? How ever long it is, it's well worth the effort.

[@donnanesbit4963]

My thoughts are the 3 witnesses are the murderers. I think the story was made up about the green shirt guy, so they could escape without being suspected. I'm sure they knew he wouldn't survive to dispute the story.

[@sandrawoodall6545]

I was born in 1958 I remember Andy Pandy and most off the stars of that time. But the murder of that poor man I find very strange ,it’s makes me wonder if the 3 men who interrupted the murder were maybe involved? It would be interesting to find out more. 😊

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Very interesting! Andrew wondered about that too! Sarah :)

[@rail324nqch-par-8]

Max Bygraves had double A Sides with You Need Hands and CTulips From Amsterdam and Conway Twitty sang Ita Only Make Believe.. Newquay had two branch lines The Neequay to Par which is still open today ans The Newquay To Chacewater which ran through Perranporth.

[@0001dong1]

I remember the murder I was on holiday with my aunt and uncle I was seven years old 1958

[@suzukidaniel1396]

1958 one year before Cliff who has been going ever since.

[@clivemacken552]

We was holidaying regular as I grew up in Falmouth 6penzance rd we had a flat my gran and grandad was in the kitchen/ their bedroom mum and dad had lounge with their bed and we was in a side room with our beds in from 74-89. My daughter now because we took them to Newquay had gone to Newquay university be nice if you gave her a shout Emily Macken it is her birthday this month 20yrs old

[@deathcouchma3025]

Happy 20th Birthday Emily Macken hope you have a lovely day😊 🎉 from a random old woman 👵🏻 who lives in Newquay. One of my daughters went to Newquay Uni too 😀

[@theresafreeman6222]

Very interesting story. If you are interested in murders there is the one at Blue Water house Porthpean. It was a double murder in the 1950s. Thanks for the videos always a good watch.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Thanks for getting in touch, not aware of that so will take a look. Sarah & Andrew

[@stephnewman1357]

I think the man in the green shirt was a red herring to send police after the wrong person. Sad story and a shame it was never solved. Looks different around there now since I last went in the early 80's on a family holiday. We stayed in a white B and B that had a lovely sea view on the bend. I remember an old stairway down the cliff to the beach with a handle just one side. Probably gone now as it wasn't very safe!

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Lots of old hotels and B&Bs are no longer there. Many have been replaced with apartment blocks of varying styles. Lots of change! Sarah :)

[@paulhardingharding3192]

Not me, wasn't born then!

[@vichill3480]

Shh ! listen is that his ghostly gold tops a rattling in his crate

[@glencurtis6496]

As much as my wife and I enjoy , your videos , what's happened to the walking trails gone

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Hop over to our Facebook page - there has been a discussion there! Sarah :)

[@fionadesciscio1799]

Year I was born. Shocking how time flies. I watched Andy Pandy but liked teddy more because he was naughty 😅

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Ha! Ha! Sarah :)

[@colinbaker3415]

Hmmm! Too good a description from the three lads, a bit suspect in my view.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Yes, it does raise questions! Sarah :)

[@rail324nqch-par-8]

Of course I wasn't born but I've heard Mum say that one policeman who also went around reading people's Gas Metres said he would like to walk around and across the beach with a handsome great pasty. I bet that would bring him our . Did the Royal Albert Bridge Saltash celebrate its Centenary that year ?

[@AnthropoidOne]

Didn’t the Beatles have a big to do there in 1967? Lying on the grass having their pictures taken?🇺🇸

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Hello! Is it worth visiting VICTORIAN Hotels in Newquay, Cornwall A NOSTALGIC look kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6WUi5qQhaebh6s This will answer both of your comments! Enjoy! Sarah :)

[@AnthropoidOne]

@@CornishWalkingTrails I have to admit I didn’t watch it all. I had to load the dishwasher and other things being Saturday. I need to take my weekly bath later🤣🇺🇸

[@gabrieleortiz5041]

My questions were - did Mr. Hand’s wife see anything? Was she even looking at the loo area? Was there any evidence tying the 3 young men to the murder? Any evidence that Mr. Hand had any enemies who may have stalked him on holiday?

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Good questions! His wife was probably looking at Fistral with her back to the loos, but the other questions remain a mystery! Sarah :)

[@gordonsimpson3235]

I think there maybe something in Andrews theory.....maybe the man in the green shirt is a red herring!

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Maybe! I fear we will never know! Sarah :)

[@joyhursey1480]

My husband to be and I stayed at the pentire hotel in 1972 we thought we were very posh 😂we were married in 1974 , celebrated our 50th anniversary this year.🗽😃

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Wow! Congratulations! Sarah :)

[@joyhursey1480]

We still visit Cornwall every April /May for two weeks, catch up with old friends and watch the obby oss on mayday in Padstow for as long as we are able to.

[@19spurs61]

that man with the glasses that follows you about has a green shirt on Beware

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Ha! Ha! Sarah :)

[@TheShimmerwitch]

The 3 guys could have had a hand in it..who knows

[@bikerbenny6747]

We walk the dogs 🐶 there 3 or 4 times a week gonna av look at the old toilet building now 😂 👍

[@clivemacken552]

Would the wife not have seen a man running out the toilets she was facing the toilets??

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

I think she was probably looking towards Fistral. Either way, he would probably run behind the car, Sarah :)

[@NickPenlee]

July 1958? Yeh, this is going to remain a cold case without a doubt. If there was DNA evidence on the victim's clothing they'd have to employ the services of someone like Parabon to conduct a DNA family tree search. If the perpetrator was 25 as reported he'd be 91 years old now! A bit too late for a prison sentence given the current shortage of prison space. I did read that Dartmoor has facilities for 700 criminals but was closed due to high emissions of Radon gas.Yes, the 3 who found the victim could be culpable in the crime although if they were locals then maybe one of your viewers is related to one or more of them. Did the police do a background check on the 3 to see if they were 'kosher'? An interesting link to the Bude case but surely the authorities would have the husband's name etc from the wife who fortunately survived. Could he account for his movements on the day of the Newquay attack? So many question! Nice video though.

[@simonchilli2088]

The 3 men who entered the toilets were northern.

[@NickPenlee]

@@simonchilli2088 Oh right. Either way there's not enough evidence to secure a conviction after all these years. If the cops couldn't solve the murder at the time there's no chance now. Convictions from crimes committed 30-40 years ago nearly always involves analysing extant DNA but there may not be any in this case. I doubt whether the police would want to spend man-power investigating the case now!

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Probably not enough evidence for one of the cold case programs on the tv! All these questions and we willl never know! Sarah :)

[@NickPenlee]

@@CornishWalkingTrails True! But at least the both of you highlighted the case!

[@simonchilli2088]

Very interesting and sad story. @15:03 there's a green painted house! Could the killer have lived there and painted it green as a gloat? Criminals return to the scene of their crimes quite often. Green shirt and mid grey trousers. Maybe demob clothes or military personel.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

Oh gosh! yes! Good thought! We were seeing green everywhere! Sarah :)

[@simonchilli2088]

@@CornishWalkingTrails 💚💚

[@PatrickWhelan-sp1th]

I have heard this crime described as motiveless but if not a robbery another explanation is that cottaging may have taken place in that block and a homophobic killer may have indiscriminitey targeted the poor man.

[@sarahhopkins577]

mmmm i was born in 1958!! doesnt seem that long ago to me hahaha.

[@CornishWalkingTrails]

:D Sarah :)