Revenge 4x08 Daniel Visits Victoria in Hospital "Contact"

[@hannahmustafa9264]

I just hate how Victoria keeps thinking she's the victim. Maybe she was a long time ago when Conrad and others threatened her, but she had the choice, and she said she chose Daniel? It's more like she chose not to be suffered by being the terrorist's wife, but it's okay for her to destroy Clarke's family. And what she said doesn't explain the terrible thing she did when she locked little Amanda in the hospital to brainwash her about her father.

[@TTUploads]

Conrad never "threatened" her, that was another lie she told to cover her tracks. If you watch the flashbacks in season 1 you will see that both of them were in a desperate situation. Conrad was originally going to be framed for bringing down that plane, he would go to prison and Victoria would have been left with nothing but raising her son in disgrace. Both of them conspired to bring David down.

[@hannahmustafa9264]

TTUploads I know that, but I remember in season 1, Victoria did once try to save David by changing her testimony, but Conrad and his alliances talked or forced Victoria to lie, and that was the moment when Conrad said, think about her life and Daniel's life if Conrad would take the blame instead. Victoria treats it as a threat and plays a victim, thats what I meant from my previous comment.

[@TTUploads]

Hannah Mustafa What Conrad meant was "think about how Daniel will live if i get put away", he wasn't threatening to kill Daniel or anything.

[@hannahmustafa9264]

TTUploads I didn't say that Conrad threatening to kill Daniel. You interpreted my comments in a total different side. What I was trying to say is Victoria always thinks that she's the victim in this whole framing David situation. She convinced herself that she was forced to do it for Daniel's sake when Conrad kept telling her to think about Daniel's life.

[@TTUploads]

Hannah Mustafa Okay then i understand now.

[@justcallmeryan2412]

Victoria, it wasn't about choosing Daniel. It was about the preservation of the Grayson name & lifestyle. It was also about how you didn't want to be known as the wife of a criminal & traitor. Daniel has every right to feel disgusted by you because of how you destroyed the lives of two innocent people.

[@sasavekic5575]

I know this is a very late reply, but remember how she wanted to run away with David, abandoning the status and wealth? Also, remember when she asked David would he have done the same for his child, and he replied with 'I just did'? There is alot more to this story than just superficially assuming that she only cared about the money and power.

[@justcallmeryan2412]

@@sasavekic5575 Okay, Victoria did care about more than money and power. She cared about self preservation, surviving even if it meant sacrificing innocent people, which she has done.

[@sasavekic5575]

@@justcallmeryan2412 🤦🏽‍♀️if you truly analyze and take time to understand her, you can see that a ton of harm she's done was to protect people she loved. And even then those decisions haunted her and she regretted them years after. She risked her life to save Emily when Malcolm kidnapped them, and until Margaux lied to her in s4 about emily pushing her in front of a car she really just wanted to be with david and was actually willing to accept emily. But sure, keep that opinion of yours if you want to, though you clearly didnt look deeper into her character

[@justcallmeryan2412]

​@@sasavekic5575 Victoria Grayson had a horrible upbringing thanks to her monster of a mother, Marion Harper. Instead of caring for her daughter, showing her love and compassion and raising her right, she showed contempt, viewed her as competition because of her youth and beauty. Victoria's mother murdered a man and manipulated her into taking the blame. As teen, her mom kicked her out the house with no means of survival, and afterwards she ended up being raped and impregnated with a child she later left in the care of a church nun. All of these traumatic events that she endured contributed to her becoming the cold hearted manipulative monster that she was. Now you can have sympathy for her because of the traumatic events she endured, but remember she wasn't the victim anymore, she was one of the victimizers. She regretted betraying David Clarke but she never once showed remorse for what she did to Emily/Amanda. In season 4, yeah she did risk her life to save Emily/Amanda from Malcolm Black but she was the reason why Black's organization took an interest in her in the first place. Oh, after the incident with Malcolm Black, Victoria realized that she and David needed to go their separate ways, and she and Emily/Amanda came to a truce that ended because of Margaux's lie and being blinded by hatred. In the end, Victoria suffered the same fate that she and her ex, Conrad, planned for David.

[@rikudoubapeck]

@@justcallmeryan2412 Well said. Especially about how little regret she held for what she did to Amanda

[@ladyanime100]

oh Victoria, it wasn't about choosing between your lover or your son. It was about choosing between what was right and having a certain lifestyle. She chose to help destroy a man's life that she claimed to love and not only that ensured that his daughter's life was destroyed as well, all to have the life of a wealth, power and to protect her husband's crime. Even when confronted with the truth of her role of that crime and her own crimes, she continues to play victim. She is no victim or innocent. She made her choice and now has to pay for them.

[@jamiepender4271]

ladyanime100 I miss the show do u

[@MzSkyler007]

Looks like karma IS running after Victoria. First both of her children dumps her, and neither of them completly blaming Emily like she hoped. Then the fact that she almost dies in this accident. She IS alone except from maybe David, but he is an idiot for not leaving her ass. Basicly they deserv eachother.

[@Mcherri]

Emily was right and open his eyes for him

[@margarethmichelina5146]

So, finally Daniel realize that his mommy is evil huh?

[@gerstein03]

Daniel kept his word. Victoria dies alone with everyone she cared about turning their backs on her but when Daniel died he did so in the arms of a woman he loved remembered fondly by those he left behind

[@someflower795]

Daniel is so cute.

[@elloguvna6820]

Tbh I loved Victoria 💕

[@sasavekic5575]

Samee always💗💗she's awesome

[@miaamer7718]

🤢🤮

[@smileymonica1232]

What does he mean by "it will be easy to blame emily" can someone please tell me

[@Mcherri]

Yes but he doesn’t completely blame her

[@tjjordan4207]

He means the easy way is to blame Emily for everything but really it came down to Conrad and Victoria. If either one of them had made the right decision then none of this would have happened. Daniel is admitting that Emily is mostly to blame but she isn’t even half of it. This is Daniel coming to terms that his parents are the ones to blame.

[@wputri8526]

When Margo said she loved Daniel, he wanted to said it back but he didn't said it because he doubted himself whether he was capable of feeling love. And it was easier to blame Emily because she fooled him and made his heart broken, but actually he didn't really know what love was even before Emily showed up and that's because his parents. His parents always manipulated him and everyone around him, they were always controlled him, always said they loved him but it was not pure love. So yeah, Daniel finally acknowledged that his parents who screwed up his life even before Emily appeared.

[@mikaelharding]

@@Mcherri its not emily fault at all its his parents fault along with being their bastard child with a defective personality

[@dinahanderson]

Josh was better actor is season 4

[@jordanfarrar9955]

Wtf I thought he was dead how did he survive

[@RobertK1993]

Malcolm Black a business rival of Conrad saved his life and faked his death.