REVERSER UNLOCK During Climb out of Portland International. American Airlines Airbus A320. REAL ATC

On February 16, 2024.
An American Airlines Airbus A320-214 registration N119US, performing flight AAL1625 from Portland International Airport (KPDX) to Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport (KPHX) after departure requested level off at 5000 feet to work out the problem. The crew declared MAYDAY, reported that they had to shut down the engine and requested return to Portland Airport.
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[@UAL320]

Pilot: “MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY” ATC: “Are you declaring an emergency?” 🙄

[@LeTangKichiro]

Swiss ATC who speak at least German and French/Italian/Rumantsch can clearly and concisely communicate in English and handle emergencies beautifully. US ATC which only speaks English have "say agains" etc. The US is cearly not the pinnacle of aviation. Far from it. They should pay ATC what they deserve and attract competent people to do that job instead of saving money left and right and have competent people do more profitable and less stressful jobs...

[@danielrn133]

Nothing abnormal about confirming an emergency. I was a Blackhawk crew chief for years. Better to confirm and ensure you heard what you think you heard.

[@RickTheClipper]

Aboard a European plane: Ladies and Gentlemen, we enter US-controlled airspace, start to pray to all Gods You know, and fasten seat belts

[@RickTheClipper]

@@LeTangKichiro Aboard a European plane: Ladies and Gentlemen, we enter US controlled airspace, start to pray to all Gods You know, and fasten seat belts

[@UAL320]

@@danielrn133…..whatever it takes, I guess, but it couldn’t have been any clearer. That’s why those specific words are the international standard used for declaring emergencies, and not just aviation and maritime emergencies.

[@cyclonasaurusrex1525]

Pilot sounded like he was just ordering a pizza. Amazing grace under pressure. I’ve got to think that all the training kicked in-he sounded utterly focused.

[@johnhufnagel]

Daddy always taught me... be calm in the moment, and throw up later.

[@chawk678]

I was thinking placing an order at a Starbucks drive-thru but agreed

[@jhill4874]

Sounded to me like this SHOULDN'T be a big deal, but take every precaution, because these things can turn to all out carp within seconds.

[@JPGtampa]

Decades of sim sessions will do that to ya

[@Nnn0cxf]

"No amount of screaming and frenzied actions save anyone".

[@pyme495]

Gusts to 40. Gains and losses of 10 on final. And you're single engine. Other than that though, you're golden. 👍 😃

[@thisurlisoriginal]

And full pax and fuel…

[@geoffreyreuther5260]

(said as a passenger) PDX is a gnarly approach when it gets gusty. Last time I flew in I swear it felt like the plane was falling every time it made a turn. Can't imagine adding an engine loss on top of that.

[@henrydenner5448]

My compliments to the pilot. That is professionalism. Heavy gust conditions, but calmly giving ATC a missed approach briefing for THEIR planning purposes, etc etc etc. Salute to you, Sir! The CRM on that flight desk must have been pristine as well for him to communicate so well, allowing the pilot flying to fly the plane. Great job.

[@jpmasters-aus]

Totally agree

[@Cycalv]

Was on that flight. VERY loud, VERY scary noise the whole way back to PDX. Glad to finally learn what was wrong.

[@boxterjeff]

I'd rather be flying it than sit in the back.

[@kewlztertc5386]

Why was there noise? They shut the engine off so it's reverse state has no effect.

[@jaredtoops7650]

@@kewlztertc5386They were likely hearing two noises that would seem alarming if they aren’t frequent flyers; the Airbus PTU was likely running to transfer power from engine 2 to engine 1’s systems as engine 1 normally runs the primary hydraulic systems and flight controls. That’s the barking noise you’ll often hear on the Airbus albeit on the ground. Second, they likely had engine 2 on MCT (Max Continuous Thrust) the whole way back to PDX, especially with the winds in their face and the threat of LLWS. Probably was not a comfy ride. Great job to these aviators; not an easy sequence of events to deal with in breezy weather.

[@andrewfidel2220]

​@@jaredtoops7650might have also fired up the APU.

[@bubbaolive883]

Pilot declared a Mayday why is ATC asking if he’s declaring an emergency??

[@stacyw8269]

As a 30 year commercial pilot, I have to say the crew did a great job. One area of constructive criticism for the controller. Dealing with an emergency and then having to input SCAPO, navigate to it, and then enter and maintain holding isn't beyond any standard we train for; however, increasing the pilot work load like that, while trying to run checklists, is an abysmal decision by the controller. There is no reason the controller needed to force them to maintain their own navigation while they could've relied on delay vectors in this scenario. If anything, the controller should be reducing their work load in any way possible. Very poor decision by the controller, and we're seeing more of this from ATC all the time. Very disappointing.

[@anthonysaponaro6318]

Man, all I can say about this captain is. . . . Thank you for coming in today sir! Not only was the wind ridiculous, he’s only got one good engine , full of passengers and fuel Great Job sir!

[@RetreadPhoto]

Boy was on top of his game. Love him looking up the MSA for BTG on the 10R plate, since he would have to turn right and perform a quick climb that wasn’t going to work with one engine. Well prepared pilot, the system works!

[@markmartin9346]

That is a procedure for a missed on single engine for Portland for American in that aircraft. It's like engine failure out of Reno for the MD-80 for American. I know, I flew for American.

[@dustyrhodes2717]

This^ I read this guys post like three times trying to understand what he was trying to convey. (Also a current AAL pilot)

[@markmartin9346]

@dustyrhodes2717 if you an AA Pilot, look at your jepp chart for PDX, page 10-7E-2

[@wills2954]

You have the right idea but the wrong plate. It should be ILS 10R plate. Also the missed approach calls for a Right turn he choose a left turn for higher altitude, and terrain avoidance.

[@clearjet]

The problem is WHICH engine failed. That determines which way you turn. Adverse yaw...

[@TabletopWorms]

Man, a thrust reverser deploying is no joke. I'm glad they were able to land safely.

[@StevenBanks123]

I wondered if it deployed, or it was the sensor announcing ‘reverser unlock” without deployment, and they did the shutdown with the caution required by their procedure checklist.

[@gang208]

I though this was not possible once the plane leaves the ground. Don't the modern jetliners have the safety lock to prevent even the deliberate act of deploying the reverser?

[@kendallevans4079]

@@gang208I thought the same. I can not even imagine the chaos of a reverse thruster deploying at 35K feet?

[@xplayman]

@@gang208That seems to be what the annunciator was indicating. It was unlocked, not deployed. So it’s indicating there’s a problem with the lock and that’s why they returned. Anything is possible with anything mechanical. That’s why they have so many sensors.

[@kewlztertc5386]

​@@kendallevans4079 It's likely survivable at high altitude. It would cause drag, but they'd have time to shut the engine down. At lower altitudes and takeoffs, its not recoverable.

[@MattyEngland]

Wow, windy day to be landing single engine, good job by the crew.

[@boxterjeff]

Never fails.

[@largosgaming]

Yeah, not sure who thought it was a good idea to put PDX right off the river where the wind comes howling through...

[@Sebastopolmark]

GREAT pilot, checked all the boxes! !! !!!

[@sint5990]

I’ll be that guys pax any day! Hearing he was on top of the reroute for a missed along with everything else he had going on, and not a lot of time either, was great!

[@mangos2888]

Came here to say the same!

[@kuckoo9036]

What is it lately with controllers making crews declare emergencies multiple times. The f, guys.

[@RickTheClipper]

A former McD employee, used to ask the customer to scale up to SUPER MAYDAY

[@ronald4life1]

ya, idk feel like the word Mayday repeated 3 times should be pretty darn clear

[@Shyndree]

The correct response would be to ask the nature of the emergency. It's wasting time to confirm a proper mayday3x call.

[@kewlztertc5386]

The pilot followed procedure by saying it 3x in a row. There should've been no ambiguity about it. However, a mayday is a major event for airports. Every other plane put on hold, emergency crews dispatched, and the airport is essentially closed. So if for any reason the controller doesn't clearly understand, there's nothing wrong with asking again.

[@mowtivatedmechanic1172]

@@kewlztertc5386if the controller doesn’t understand a “”mayday” said clearly three times in a row they need to bench him and check him out.

[@Mountain-Man-3000]

That pilot monitoring was ON THE BALL!! Tremendous job getting everything figured out and communicating with ATC just absolutely perfectly. No wasted time, no wasted comms. Just outstanding work from that flight crew!! Well done to both of you, and the ATC as well!! 🎉

[@BigKandRtv]

. Let’s not normalize giving a crew in emergency more work. ATC made this harder on the crew.

[@phillee2814]

Really, an ATC that does not know what MAYDAY x3 means, then loads them up with additional work? That could be used as a textbook example of terrible ATC, although it really should have been downgraded to a PAN-PAN x3 once the engine was safely shut down.

[@00LHay]

“Mayday mayday mayday”. “Are you declaring an emergency”. Sounds like ATC haven’t even heard mayday before

[@BigKandRtv]

Or skipped training before putting on the headset. The more I think about this the madder I get.

[@markcardwell]

Love they briefed the miss with atc

[@user-yi3yx2fn7g]

@@kuckoo9036 Yeah, ATC sounded more interested in snacks than helping out. Briefing their missed was a great thing though. Good to clue in ATC and should be used more!

[@pyme495]

Not knocking the controller on this one at all. I think it was a great touch, since the crew would have plenty of other things going on if they actually did have a missed approach, and the controller could be better prepared to anticipate and handle them afterwards.

[@lyingcat9022]

No that was actually very important. That is not the Published Missed for ILS or LOC RWY 10R. “Climb to 1100ft (RWY heading), climbing RIGHT turn to 5000ft on the BTG R-160….” But they are unable to execute this Missed due to the need to climb slowly straight out for 7 miles on 1 engine. There is mountainous terrain straight ahead from 10R/L (Mt. Hood) and it’s higher to the south if they turn right. So they likely choose to improvise a Missed, fly straight then turn LEFT heading NW away from the high terrain.

[@terrybarnett273]

@@lyingcat9022 I thought I heard him say it was a Company procedure for going missed for the 10's on one engine. Either way def the right decision to continue and a slow left turn. Nothing good waiting for them to the right of the end of 10/28.

[@raylee17]

Definitely a good idea to shut down the engine is the reverser is unlocked in flight. Lauda flight 004 started with an unlocked reverser at first after all, and back then, people think an unlocked reverser in flight was no big deal. At least we are learning from past mistakes.

[@GONZOFAM7]

That Captain was building HIS team, informing them of the plans and executed as planned. Awesome example Captain.

[@fredricgrethel1717]

Outstanding on all fronts. True pros in cockpit and at ATC.

[@iocat]

What part of ATC asking if they are declaring an emergency after the pilots say "Mayday" is professional?

[@cellis5111]

love this pilot. no egoes getting in the way. declare the emergency and get on the ground

[@rriverz6836]

Finally an American pilot using MAYDAY

[@JeffCohenOnline]

yet the controller still had to ask if they're declaring an emergency. Maybe they have to officially declare an emergency in addition to the mayday call? Or perhaps the controller just missed it?

[@rriverz6836]

@@JeffCohenOnline yeah that part was kinda annoying, definitely the fault of the ATC for not fully understanding a MAYDAY call.

[@malahammer]

Is this all that concerns you? You're OK with the reverser unlock, engine shut down, additional crew pressure? And the fact that he was able to hold during a MAYDAY. Not a MAYDAY methinks.

[@rriverz6836]

@@malahammer you seem mad for no reason, I was simply pointing out a fact that I think should happen more often.

[@MeirMaor]

​@@malahammerthe procedure said sbutdown engine, and that made them an emergency aircraft and they said so, but aircraft was in control and they had to prepare for single engine, probably overweight landing. The pilot was fine.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

Amazing composure under stressful conditions. can't believe how good a landing it was from all accounts. The captain of this ship was just incredible single-engine only

[@corydriver7634]

ATC …”are you declaring an emergency…” uh yeah generally MAYDAY-MAYDAY-MAYDAY means I’m declaring an emergency. ATC is also making him work way too hard, slap a vector on him so he doesn’t have to think about it in stead of giving him direct a fix. Also give him a block altitude to avoid additional transmissions.

[@RLTtizME]

Do make bitch lists before you post?

[@joshuamitchell3441]

What TRACON you work at?

[@larrybruce4856]

With 18,200 pounds of fuel, that was a scary situation to land so quickly with all that weight from fuel still on board.. Great pilot, great Tower coordination for a safe return to Portland international Airport. Despite the delays, safety is the main concern for passengers, crew, and people on the ground.

[@cruisinguy6024]

That’s actually not that much fuel, not even half of what it can carry. If weight was an issue they would have remained in the air for a while to burn off fuel until they got down to a safe landing weight. I’m not sure what is so scary about this, all the passengers would have known is that they were turning around to land. The more observant passengers would have noticed Engine 2 was reduced to idle then shut down. The flight was so short the pilots probably didn’t have a chance to tell the passengers anything.

[@ds2112]

All transport category aircraft are capable of landing at the maximum takeoff weight under the Captain's emergency authority; with a potential T/R unlock, screw that - I'd want to get on the ground. Granted, this was probably a bad microswitch, as the crew didn't report any handling issues, but, it is capable; in addition to the inspection for what caused the T/R unlock, they'd have to do an overweight landing inspection.

[@ohnezuckerohnefett]

Bane working the ATC, how nice.

[@nickzlb77]

😂😂😂

[@jshumphress13]

That departure frequency was awful. I had to stop the video after a few minutes.

[@kennethfeagins1414]

You know MAYDAY has fallen out of practice when a pilot declares and tower comes back with, 'are you declaring an emergency'. No, I've just always wanted to say that on the radio😅

[@athgt6630]

Glad they landed safely. Reverser unlocked in flight can become very, very nasty

[@StevenBanks123]

Nasty wind conditions to land with asymmetric thrust one engine

[@LokiDWolf]

I love this channel so much! The animation is always perfect and the audio found is fantastic.

[@dutchflats]

This crew has an emergency, flying the aircraft single engine, doing checklists, briefing the approach, company, crew and passengers......asks ATC for delaying vectors and get holding instructions instead like they don't have enough to do? Nice job PDX radar......not.

[@gcorriveau6864]

I was noticing the same thing - and thinking if it was me I might just 'demand' the vectors - don't need any extra work just then to enter and confirm holding parameters etc ... especially seeing as I'd just declared Mayday AND then again with - 'yes I'm declaring.... ' I'm feeling like this controller was unclear on the concept.

[@davesmith3561]

Probably a stupervisor trying to get current

[@BigKandRtv]

Absolutely. This event needs to make the next training event. BEFORE ATC has the chance to do this again.

[@davesmith3561]

WAY too much jaw-jackin' by the controller.

[@clarkgriswold-zr5sb]

And the pilot. Who cares if you block a runway. You're single engine with winds gusting to 40. Better pay attention.

[@anthonyharms6298]

The calmness of these conversations is always something that’s so cool to me.

[@WindTunnelRacing]

Checking the Brakes. This pilot was on top of everything.

[@robertbutsch1802]

That’s why you follow the checklists.

[@BigKandRtv]

The pilot says Mayday three times, and air traffic asks him if he’s declaring an emergency?!!!

[@DennisUpdates]

Pretty sure the wind shear data on final was the last thing they wanted to hear. 29G40 +/- 10 on single engine. Yeesh.

[@markauble3928]

And that's how it's done ladies and gentlemen. Nice job.

[@rmkilc]

What are they putting in the water down there in Portland? ATC asking pilots if they are declaring an emergency after the pilot has already declared one has become a running meme at this point.

[@awesomerpower]

Fentanyl, if you must know, but this was a case of pilot getting stepped on during mayday call and ATC didn’t hear him.

[@wjatube]

It's comforting to know that reverser is locked and has a sensor detecting an unlock at altitude.

[@stevedominic]

Finally an American pilot actually declaring a MayDay, only for the controller to ask are you declaring an emergency. This really isn't that difficult.

[@williamedwards1528]

Shows how pointless those magic words are.

[@RickTheClipper]

A former McD employee, used to ask the customer to scale up to SUPER MAYDAY

[@dalydegagne1839]

​@@williamedwards1528 Only pointless because US does not the follow international standard and went for identifying as an "emergency" - American exceptionalism not always a good thing.

[@arlo4051]

@@williamedwards1528No they help to let the other Aircraft on the frequency to keep the channel clear.

[@iocat]

AA seems to require pilots to say MAYDAY, per other AA emergencies.

[@HamBown]

Super professional crew, ATC leaves something to be desired. That is a no joke failure that has brought down aircraft in the past, notably Lauda Air Flight 004.

[@Boodieman72]

When ATC doesn't know what MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY means you know you are in US airspace.

[@RLTtizME]

EMERGENCY here Bub.

[@huskkyy]

Also the fact that the pilot flying is not using standard phraseology

[@rizzodefrank]

What is non standard about mayday?​@@huskkyy

[@iocat]

@@RLTtizME What was the excuse when Alaska told Portland "EMRGENCY" and they made her declare it like 4 times?

[@joshuamitchell3441]

What you want him to use PAN PAN instead?

[@Halli50]

A silly question: "Are you declaring an emergency?" after a "Mayday-mayday-mayday" declaration. This time ATC had their pants down for a moment. To their credit, the rest was as professional as we could expect.

[@gregdrmax]

Mayday is declaring an emergency, Mr atc. Geeesh

[@warped2875]

Flew right over my house on the 280* leg, ...spooky! Glad they got the engine shut down, and landed safely.

[@markg7963]

Nicely played American!

[@sturmovik1274]

I just saw this and had a passing wild-ass thought that the proper response would be to unlock the Number TWO reverser so that the reverse thrust could at least be even. This is why I'm not a professional pilot.

[@Shadow__133]

No, the best solution would be to shutdown both engines. Only way to ensure even thrust levels. Trust me, Im a pro!

[@sturmovik1274]

Logic.@@Shadow__133

[@pjhaebe]

Coulda just throttled up the APU for extra thrust.

[@user-yi3yx2fn7g]

@@pjhaebe lol you guys!!

[@SRPM-yk9xw]

I'd stick on both reversers and then just parallel park into the gate. Job done.

[@pesawatindonesia]

Good Update !

[@dactel2]

Holding? Not a huge deal but is it too much to provide delay vectors like he was asked to? And yes there is a reason why we say MAYDAY three times. Don’t need six. Like it’s not busy enough in the cockpit…

[@RLTtizME]

The best is not to say it all. Emergency Aircraft works much better.

[@Shyndree]

@@RLTtizME No it doesn't. Mayday is a lot easier and simpler to say, less likely to get jumbled up or misunderstood if used in a noisy cockpit. Also, it is internationally recognised, it's stupid trying overcomplicate it, and doing something different than everyone else do in emergencies.

[@RLTtizME]

@@Shyndree No. We have been through all of that before. You must be a EuroBrit. It is a control thing with you guys. Accept change. Cheers.

[@2660016A]

@@RLTtizMEWe don’t get to make up our own SOPs based on our opinion of what ‘works best’. Guys who do that are the absolute worst to fly with - awful CRM from people with God complexes and no self awareness. Not safe operators.

[@RLTtizME]

@@2660016A Uh no....in all cases....the use of pan pan or mayday or emergency or emergency aircraft has zero impact on the outcome of the event. Outcome remains the same no matter what call-out is used.. You are looking for a problem wherein none exists. To prove your point...cite 5 examples where the use of "emergency" versus mayday produced a serious adverse, negative outcome. You can't. A non-issue. It is interesting that this is always a sore subject...mostly with officious and controlling EuroBrits who emotionally react to any change in protocol. It is truly remarkable.....and triggering in every respect. It is actually quite inexplicable if not humorous.

[@robmcmillan3766]

Great job!

[@andy_in_colorado7060]

Oof. Yeah after that thrust reverser mishap over Thailand, and reading about what that flight crew and passengers had to have gone through before the horrifying end....not something to mess with.

[@TheAlaska07]

A lot of things going on in that cockpit! Good job.

[@pavanatanaya]

In Portland, Mayday Maday Maday! could just be a workers rights declaration

[@dutchflats]

LOL!

[@danielobondi6816]

😂😂😂😂

[@BigKandRtv]

Are you trying to find a way to inject politics into a situation that nearly cost dozens of lives?

[@pavanatanaya]

Dramatic much Francis?@@BigKandRtv

[@BigKandRtv]

@@pavanatanaya air travel is serious business. I don’t mind being called an extremist.

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

This is familiar 🤔 (Lauda Air Flight 4)

[@jhill4874]

Boy, PDX has been in the aviation news a bit lately. Several years ago, returning to PDX on Southwest, the weather was pure garbage. Buffeting was an understatement. And getting near the ground the plane just didn't want to go down. Great pilots. Once we finally touched down, full brakes and reversers, the absolutely silent cabin erupted into cheers. The flight attendants gave little nervous smiles. I wonder how many other returning flights experienced the same "fun".

[@needleonthevinyl]

Very smooth and professional pilots

[@BigKandRtv]

And bad ATC.

[@doncruikshank1387]

Having a thrust reverser deploy in-flight is a REALLY BIG deal. Excellent job by this crew! Can't believe ATC sent them to a fix to hold (a bunch of heads down work) right the middle of working an emergency. This is a great example of why controllers should be REQUIRED to ride jumpseats and/or observe sim training.

[@sirifail4499]

Everyone handled that calmly and professionally.

[@Luton-Mick]

This same issue brought down a Lauda Air 767 in 1991, they were very lucky the crew were on their A game.

[@segredosdotiosam9989]

If it was a 737-MAX the media would be all over it.

[@EdVonPelt]

A 24-year-old plane having an issue can happen. A 2-month-old plane losing a crucial part mid-air, or nosediving into the ground on the other hand...

[@barryhall3971]

So, they got a "Reverser Unlock' warning light - not a reverser deployment - but immediately decide to shut down the engine, declare emergency and land - Well done!! Different story aboard Lauda Air 004 in 1991 where they received a " visual warning light indicating that a possible system failure could cause the thrust reverser to activate", captain says "that keeps coming on" then "The crew discussed the indication for about four minutes, checked the aircraft's quick reference handbook before determining it was just an advisory, and took no further action", shortly later the number one engine reverser deploys, plane breaks sound barrier as it impacts terrain in Thailand jungle. Lesson, don't ignore a warning light or as pilot Kerry McCauley calls it, an RBL (Really Bad Light).

[@Jeff-tl4nr]

For years FAA has been trying to get pilots to use mayday. These guys do it, and the controller asks if it’s an emergency. Frustrating

[@mangos2888]

Training starts somewhere 😂

[@KPMACHINE1]

Hey at least the doors started shut! Ya can’t have it all!

[@mikemicksun6469]

This is about the third thrust reverser problem in a couple weeks.

[@aymansaad7478]

I thought they fixed the problem and it became impossible after Lauda Air 004 in 1991.

[@cruisinguy6024]

⁠@@aymansaad7478this was a different situation. The crew had an ECAM message on the ground for reverser unlock but continued with the flight. Once airborne the aerodynamic forces started to slide the sleeve back which triggered the engine to automatically reduce to idle. They had some buffeting but no loss of control. For the Lauda flight the reverser fully engaged which immediately triggered an aerodynamic stall of the wing causing loss of control and subsequent breakup. Interestingly, in both cases the pilots had warnings before hand and chose to disregard them

[@singleproppilot]

@@cruisinguy6024Pilots don’t “choose” to disregard warnings. They have no choice. There is a QRH checklist for a reverser unlock light which they are required to follow. If they got the light before departure, they may have been able to coordinate a deferral with maintenance control in order to continue. If they satisfied all conditions of the MEL and it was issued by maintenance control, then this is not in any way their fault. Reversers are complex systems which can sometimes fail in unexpected ways. The MEL criteria may need to be updated.

[@Benis650]

The repeated "Mayday" is not only unmistakeably clear but also impossible to confuse with any other term. I don't undetstand why ut us so difficult to comprehend

[@respighi3]

Header says A320-214, but that must be a mistake. Surely it must have been a 737MAX...or some other Boeing product (because Airbus products never have issues---do they?).

[@repatch43]

Hehe, reverser unlock sure makes sense to have to shut her down, otherwise the plane could actually come down

[@andrewkessinger5966]

Wait I thought, based on every comment section about commercial aviation since the last incident out of KPDX, that Airbus planes don't have major failures like this. Given it's not a door plug blowing off but imagine if both engines had that failure.

[@WANDERER0070]

Then it become a glider 😂 miracle on Hudson comes to mind

[@joeg5414]

damn winds 29 gusting 40

[@robertwilcox6760]

The atc thought it strange he didnt consider it an emergency thats good enough for me

[@grumpy3543]

Remember why we don’t stop on the high speed taxiway to have the fire trucks inspect us? Because it’s too narrow for both the trucks and the plane. Better to just stop on the runway and do the inspection. It only takes a couple minutes. It won’t close the runway for that long. 6:57

[@daverogers5609]

God bless the pilots and ATC. I would constantly be saying, “could you repeat that please?”

[@richarddaugherty8583]

ATC needs a refresher course! Calling MAYDAY IS a declaration of emergency. Good Grief!

[@billdurham8477]

Good thing at least one of the pilots saw that Suzanne Pleshette movie and shut down the correct engine....Blancolirio has an engine out vid, crashed because ATC never asked which engine was out ( he ASSumed it was a single engine AC ) and had the pilot turning into the good engine just above stall, spun in. I realize an airliner won't, but it's halfway thruwhen the pilot mentions which engine out.

[@joshuabrooks9360]

This is the 4th major event at Portland this year. What the heck.

[@SWAFanPilot]

Yikes! Why do accidents keep happening out of PDX? First Alaska 1282 and now this..?

[@fuffoon]

Alex, I'll take 'things that are claimed impossible but happen just the same'.

[@Bohemian-Rhapsody]

How bad is that the ATC didn't know what MAYDAY is.😮 That's from years of systemic incorrect radio procedures and the lack of global uniformity for Emergency protocols. Even when the pilots do, do the right thing, everyone around them doesn't necessarily understand correct radio terminology.

[@donsland1610]

The guy declared a "Mayday" and they then ask him if he's declaring an emergency? Only in America I guess.

[@deekamikaze]

Why are a good portion of emergencies out of Portland (KPDX) lately?

[@BabyMakR]

"Mayday mayday mayday" ATC 'Sorry, all emergencies need to be submitted in triplicate submitted 2 weeks in advance with detailed information about the emergency'

[@algernonblack]

Once again appalling ATC. Pilot calls MAYDAY, MAYDAY, MAYDAY and ATC ask him if he is declaring an emergency. There is no greater emergency than MAYDAY.

[@TangoDelta8111]

So, how often does a thrust reverser disengage in flight? I’ve never heard that 1 before?

[@gerardmoran9560]

A very rare malfunction but potentially devastating. Depending on the speed and thrust at reverser deployment loss of control is a real threat. Most airplanes I've flown require engine shutdown ASAP. Well handled.

[@benignasiak3465]

Neato iam flying American next month

[@clearjet]

Pretty sure ATC was snoozing...

[@jake_]

AAL1625: Portland, American 1625, Mayday-Mayday-Mayday, we 'need to return to Portland. Departure: American 1625, are you declaring an emergency, do you want equipment ready for you? How did this guy get this job?

[@pjhaebe]

PDX ATC sure leaves a lot to be desired. That MAX blowout last month was worse than this but Jesus

[@tonybeam]

Holy fukkin Allah!

[@dwpdx]

That flight passed 5000 so they were communicating with Seattle regional, not pdx tower

[@jonahcolligan3285]

@@dwpdxPdx tracon goes til 10

[@dwpdx]

@@jonahcolligan3285That flight being the max incident last month which hit 16 - yes, 10 is the transition. Just taking one off the plate of pdx atc

[@reddragon3787]

What the fuck, why all of suddenly Portland Airport started to have issue with airplanes. Door plug fell off from the sky, and now this.

[@transmaster]

Mayday and PAN PAN are different. The former is getting on the ground right now, The latter is an issue that is not immediately dangerous but needs to land soonest

[@rahulzingade99]

WTF does this Controller think "Mayday-Mayday-Mayday" means?

[@ronald4life1]

Plane is 23 yrs old and was org. part of US Airways fleet before AA bought them out...

[@artistjoh]

I thought Mayday was reserved for only extreme emergencies and this emergency did not appear to be that extreme. Shutting down the engine fixed the problem and after that it was merely a single engine landing.

[@EdOeuna]

I guess that shutting down the engine immediately would be a good solution.

[@kenbrownfield6584]

Good pilots are worth their weight in gold.

[@chris.geringverdiener]

Dear ATC, which part of „MAYDAY-MAYDAY-MAYDAY“ don’t you understand?

[@jevmobile]

ATC make me laugh a bit, they are quick and snappy when delivering instructions. However, MAYDAY means “Emergency” and they don’t seem to always get that initially when it’s declared. Sometimes listening more can eliminate repeat Qs. Part of crew and aviation communication skills is listening and being receptive to new information.

[@lindorini]

Is there a difference of saying "mayday" or claiming an emergency?

[@waltersmith8196]

Two pros at work.

[@kaykay730]

same thing happened to a Portugal flight in April 2022

[@beardedbarnstormer9577]

Reverse unlocking in air shouldn't be possible. Things are really effed up right now in avaiatik.