REVERT CHUCKY

[@thefakebanette3483]

To clear something up I'm comparing ot to skully not because of the severity of the nerf but due to what seems to be the reason behind it of helping player frustration and the drop in play rate I could have used twins or trickster BUT she seemed more obvious a pick

[@spiritupgrades]

Finally, you're using rapid brutality wish you had given it go before the nerf

[@thefakebanette3483]

I did I used it all the time

[@spiritupgrades]

@@thefakebanette3483 I guess I missed those streams, shame You stream way in the afternoon for me, which isn't good for me time-wise

[@JohnSmith-u6j]

yeah, actually from that perspective thats an entirely fair analogy.

[@patientzero8130]

Honestly if skully was initially released with her two beam kit I doubt anyone would have cared that much. It would’ve just been a hag situation where she has a niche player base and can be annoying but she’s not strong enough to warrant any meaningful nerfs

[@blckorb6322]

They pulled a skull merchant only they didn’t shoot chucky in the head they just shot both his legs

[@SeeNogDBDYT]

Twins main here, as someone who knows what it's like to watch their main get subjected to either neglect, weird decisions, false delayed promises, or all of the above, my heart goes out to Chucky mains.

[@thefakebanette3483]

Some are saying it was more part to twins then skully and it kind of is I think my thing comparing it to skully is the reason for the change Ty for the sympathy here's hoping that at the least day something about it

[@SeeNogDBDYT]

@thefakebanette3483 here's the difference though, skully the devs knew full well what they were doing, twins got neglected for a very long time and the devs didn't care what bugs on bugs they accrued...

[@Doncroft1]

I'm a Twins and Unknown player. Both killers almost got ruined by poorly thought-out PTB changes that BHVR reverted due to bad feedback. But these Chucky changes were never PTB tested. They were dropped on him like a sack of bricks, no warning.

[@alexanderneve2323]

Ok update: I have tried Chucky post nerf. I think maybe it's just first impressions and I don't know if I am overreacting. The cooldown is alright, but the other two changes are just.. ASS. I don't think he is unplayable, but he isn't that satisfying anymore.

[@Sad-Papaya]

Exactly!! The cool down nerf was fine, even warranted, but the speed just feels awful

[@linkthesimpofzelda6720]

The cooldown nerf isn’t fine bro he’s literally 110💀🙏 he’s slow enough and his power takes 14 seconds to come back so therefore if you miss it’s gunna punish the shit outta you and it would already take long to catch up to the survivor because like I said he’s 110

[@alexanderneve2323]

@linkthesimpofzelda6720 I think the problem with the cooldown was the fact that we didn't get to test it on a ptb, instead it was rushed out as a bugfix without any consideration. I personally think 12 seconds was perfect but no, people apparently think it's too busted, which it wasn't. People do forget that Chucky's dash is one of his greatest strengths and nerfing that definitely made him worse. I do see where you are coming from though.

[@linkthesimpofzelda6720]

@ all i can do is pray they revert mah boy😔👊 dudes literally my main he’s fun af

[@GregPiggot]

That speed nerf took me by surprise! I played a match with him and actually shouted "woah wtf have they done to him" while rushing with slice and dice😂

[@gamingcantina9157]

My thing is you could barely react and still make chucky miss.

[@GregPiggot]

My only issue with chucky was rat poison honestly. It removed any possible mindgames away from tiles. The few times i used it the wins felt undeserved lol

[@douglasbreno4966]

Bring back old scamper or let him have more control while performing a scamper, survivors being able to just step to the side while Chucky scampers is just ridiculous.

[@ReactiveDeactive]

The best part I bet people will still DC to Chucky like they do against Skull Merchant to this day

[@crazyjay-r5458]

I don’t understand the point of them keep nerfing Chucky like what’s the point of it? These devs don’t test there own changes

[@dkres82]

Most of my fellow survivor mains cry about him too much. Personally I love him.

[@crazyjay-r5458]

@ what annoys me the most is that he’s a licensed killer so that’s a waste of everyone’s money

[@JaySplash00]

@@dkres82 Chucky is always fun to go against. Buffed/nerfed, whatever. Wearing a Good Guys shirt while typing this.

[@dkres82]

@@JaySplash00 I feel the same. Get shit talked by Chucky in chase is so fun. And once you figure out how to see him when he’s undetectable at a loop he’s not even that hard.

[@thatfishguy4991]

@@JaySplash00AGREED. I’ve never understood the complaints about Chucky. Especially since, if you just split up, he kind of sucks. Like I’d say I’ve won about 70% of my games against Chucky because if the team splits up he just can’t do anything about it.

[@jaymatsu2367]

As someone who plays both Chucky and skully, theses two do not deserve the treatment they received because people don't like going against them

[@LightWavess]

I've mained Tricky since they made his knives 6 to injure. Then they decided to give him 4.6m speed and up his TR to 32 and make is knives 8 to injure while also nerfing his basekit throwrate. And i main him no more because he's ass to play. I don't get who at BHVR justified upping his TR and nerfing his power while having killers like Blight still ingame. It's just the example of how they kill killers overtime

[@diotubgamer544]

Skully did Chucky no

[@LaBarata12]

Damn right chess merchant deserved the nerfs- They should have made them worse, not enough nerf

[@jaymatsu2367]

@@diotubgamer544 no she didn't, I'm sorry but discussion likes this is why I dislike the community who says these sort of things

[@The_Cylly]

@@diotubgamer544 no, merchant didn’t. The problem was the haste, and the problem with the haste wasn’t the power it provided, it was the way it provided it, so that power should have been redistributed back into the kit in a way that rewarded skill expression with the power, and before you even think about saying that merchant is a no skill killer, if skully was a killer devoid of all skill expression then explain how someone managed to make an hour and a half guide to playing as and against merchant with that supposed zero skill.

[@Pyrax-Tunneled-You]

It was fun while it lasted.

[@spiritupgrades]

No matter the Nerf, they can't keep this good guy down!

[@spiritupgrades]

7:58 It's sad because when I had played a match after the skull merchant Nerf, the survivors pretty much "threatened" to get Chucky nerfed as well. I guess they got what they wished for.

[@CaptToilet]

I bought Chucky after they killed scamper on his first balance patch. Enjoyed him enough that I ranked him top 4 after Drac, Pyramid, and Wesky. Now that they have BHVR'ed him again I may not go back to him till they revert some stuff or adjust again. BHVR need to stop listening to whiny survivor mains on twitter.

[@somersfamily]

I almost for him to 100 and I haven't seen any other players that high. As soon as they nurfed the pallet shit I was like here we go, and now this. Nah I just turned it off last night and played something else. They should be giving everyone's fk money back for the shit they buy for him and this game

[@beardedhankhill1]

He fucking walks faster than his slice and dice and you still cannot turn him

[@GregPiggot]

He works a bit like oni. You have to look up and flick to turn as you attack with the slice and dice. If your on controller i think it works aswell unlike with oni

[@beardedhankhill1]

@ I know how he works lol I got him to p97 before this whole thing, none the less if you walk faster than your power you have essentially been turned into a glorified M1 killer with zero anti-loop and zero functionality and that is what you have with chucky now.. I think they should revert to the old way of scampering to attempt to compensate

[@somersfamily]

😂😂😂😂😂k

[@KiTho06]

I don't even wanna boot up DBD until they revert these changes. This has seriously killed all my Will to play DBD.

[@assembled1855]

Thanks to those crying survivor mains that did this because they want to easily react to slice and dice.

[@doompunk64]

Good honestly, pick a killer that isn’t braindead

[@KiTho06]

@@doompunk64 alright. Gonna start playing Blight with full slowdown now. Maybe add some slugging and tunneling to the List while I’m at it. That’s what you want right ? For People to not have fun. Cause Chucky is fun for me. That’s why I play him. But I can’t have fun with these changes. And basically everyone agrees with this.

[@doompunk64]

@@KiTho06 Too bad so sad I guess? At least blight has counterplay and can miss rushes. It’s basically impossible to miss as chucky unless you’re bad.

[@Rambone1978]

@@doompunk64I really don’t know where this sentiment comes from. You can definitely miss chuckys power. It’s not a definitive hit you can literally dodge it(especially after these nerfs). But no instead of learning how to actually play against him, you say he’s op and leave it that. Such a shame people don’t learn how to play the game

[@callumlong1521]

Revert the movement speed nerf then he's fine overall imo

[@misanthropicworld6958]

Cooldown is way too long

[@callumlong1521]

@misanthropicworld6958 na it's fine. When it was 15 seconds, it was fine but 14 is also fine imo

[@thefakebanette3483]

My only issue with 14 is it makes power drill feel more required but I can live with it honestly

[@Epicness560]

I got lery's when i tried new chucky. I know he struggles a bit more on indoor maps. But these changes were ridiculous. My god, i would start my power in a wide open hallway, start running, and they would still get to a window or doorway before i could reach them. Miserable to play

[@geno_xi]

They should honestly do your silk pillow idea. Maybe even add the addon partial to basekit and even lower his TR for the slight increase charge speed. I also think 13 is the PERFECT cd number

[@D3ATH2GL0RY]

Can’t wait for when this slightly blows up and a bunch of Survivor Mains will say that you should stop your whining and that these nerfs are justified. They aren’t. They weren’t for Skully and they aren’t for the Bloody Beanie Baby. Instead of people wanting to learn the counterplay and adapt to these Killers, they’d rather whine to Behavior to give them the Euthanasia Special until they aren’t viable and are shells of themselves. I feel that it was okay to give Survivors more reaction time, but this is too much piled onto each other. Chucky at least has a decent amount of mains who will argue enough to hopefully revert the changes but that just makes me more sad for Skull Merchant mains who don’t have that and have to wait for the ‘rework’, which will probably be a few number tweaks and the Devs will call it a day. Edit: Nevermind, it seems I’m the punching bag now. :,)

[@thatfishguy4991]

Literally. There was so many ways they could fix this too but I’m concerned for what they’ll do. I’m fearful that their response to this reaction to these changes will be making him 115% so he feels more in line with other killers (like they did with trickster).

[@xvphoenixvii5146]

im sorry but chess merchant needed to be nerfed, she isn't fun to play, nor is she fun to play against, she was made solely to exist as an annoyance

[@D3ATH2GL0RY]

@ okay…. that was *Chess* Merchant. I’m talking about her rework after that which was recently gutted. She hasn’t been able to expose you with Drones for a *WHILE* now. Her traps didn’t activate nor scan you if you were on a Gen. This is the Skull Merchant Pixel Bush made an hour long guide on, not the Cm9i Chess Shenanigans. She was a C Tier Killer who didn’t have much in chase and acted more like a trap killer, but nobody wanted to learn how to combat against her and would rather DC and act like it’s still Chess Merchant so now Behavior nerfed her into the ground so everyone would shut up. Chucky is now getting that same treatment.

[@scrapinator8898]

@@xvphoenixvii5146 buddy your the type of player that starts fights with uneducated spouts bro was talking about the resent nerf why the fuck would he talk about the one that happened almost a year ago???? the nerf NUKE that she got less then a few months ago

[@Zebrastripegum-m2j]

@@D3ATH2GL0RY lmfao says the killer main who complains about survivor perks calmly

[@DHKrieg]

-makes character 110 because of fast dash attack, makes dash slow later -removes scamper but lowers cooldown to offset, later increases cooldown again many such cases

[@KiTho06]

Im gonna be honest here. I’m Mad that he feels so sluggish to play. But, I also want Chucky to be strong. I‘ve played weak Killers for long enough. I just don’t want to get shit on by Survivors every time I boot up DBD after a long stressful day at work. Chucky gave me that. I was able to play without having to put so much time into learning him. And I still got Wins. He felt good to play. Strong and easy to learn but still many opportunities to show skill and do something cool. He felt like I had finally found my Killer. Finally a Killer I would want to play every time I played DBD. Booting up DBD just so I can play Chucky. Having him get nerfed again and again is just, heartbreaking. It really kills all the Joy and good Faith I have for this Game.

[@liveira5400]

Nerfing characters for the sake of nerfing just creates more nurse and blight mains, survivors can't cry about having matches being mostly these 2 when any other character that is barely fun and different to play are nerfed to the ground

[@Biggiewesker]

Blight is fine?

[@aliimiza8421]

I am glad whenever I do run into a nurse instead of Chucky. These nerfs are fine, because they don‘t make him a bottom tier killer and he‘s now comparable to the average killer power wise.

[@GregPiggot]

What pisses me off is blight is somehow still a 115 killer!

[@Biggiewesker]

@ blight being 110 won’t stop good blights from getting hits 90% of the time. Hell, Blight could be brought to 105% and he’d still whoop everyone’s ass. It’s just unnecessary for him to not be 115

[@psybersloth7330]

How would things work if we met in the middle? 9m movement while in Slice n Dice and a 13 second cooldown?

[@uliibarra12]

I used to be a Chucky main on release, I feel like he's at the perfect balance right now. I hope they don't nerf him anymore.

[@NoahFence736]

Revert Chucky back to how he was after his PTB but disable hidey ho after one scamper. His kill rate was so low anyways due to the 20 second cooldown why they even had to change him in the first place I have no idea. Like if a chucky play could only ever get his hits by using scamper then you still have to wait a long cooldown just to get it back he was fine how he was

[@The_Cylly]

I’d say revert the most recent nerf and then wait for the next PTB to try this change before pushing it to live.

[@johnnynewcome.]

An idea I always had was to take the manual pallet scamper away but keep the manual window scamper so that the issue with the instant hits after pallet drops was taken care off but still retained the abiltiy to mind game windows without slice and dice

[@lilchipo]

I genuinely hate playing against this character and he is my least favorite but gat dayum they went overboard, like i feel the speed and duration stayed the same but the hitbox should have been tweaked

[@Notwedsquid]

I love chucky the hitbox was always my biggest issues with this killer the hitbox on slice and dice is way to big and just gives way to many forgiving hits.

[@Katana314]

This would probably be hard to code, but: Maybe one big thing they could do is let you turn your camera during a Scamper, within a 45-degree angle. Then, the continued S&D charge will start from that angle. It'd still be very mind-gameable on long walls if people hug the vault, but would require correct prediction of the mind games to avoid those hits.

[@henrysheridan9571]

Chuckys release time has also been nerfed- this means from the time you let go of the button- to the time he actually jumps- has been increased by 0.23 seconds

[@yoshihuo6911]

#SilkPillowChargeTimeBaseKit #RevertChucky #RevertSkullMerchant

[@spiritupgrades]

The first one hell no the others yse, yse, yse, yse...YSE

[@thefakebanette3483]

Spirit he needs some kind of nerf to make him more reactible it's why a lot of us are suggesting it

[@spiritupgrades]

@@thefakebanette3483 Would honestly take the Chucky we have now, then basic kit silk pillow Fake. Straight up, I hate that add-on next to rat poison. Also, you want people to react to him more Bring the splinter's back & people will learn how to counter him better. The game would be a lot more interesting if those offerings came back.

[@mightybear7]

Personally i played chucky for a few hours yesterday and i was still getting a lot of slice and dice hits but i wasn't really able to get hits at short pallet loops anymore. I think it's good that BHVR is trying to address frustrations of going against him by making him more reactable but i don't really know if this change is best overall. Cooldown objectively makes him a lot weaker, he just cannot keep up with wesker and spirit anymore. I think this video is really good and i commend your ability to promote reasonable and constructive discussion

[@thefakebanette3483]

Oh I'm still landing them too don't get me wrong just not at most loops and it did take some adjusting but again it's about how it feels like it doesn't feel good leaving one now to me

[@MoggedByPutrid]

Btw I thought of the silk pillow change, but it wouldn’t work either. It would help players react in niche scenarios, but think wesker… chucky with silk pillow still takes off before wesker could with charging his power and holding m1, so speed being nerfed on chucky is what needs to happen sadly. He still has a lot going for him, but his existence countered so many killers in the game, so now there’re rightfully trying to optimize him into less of a mini blight, more of a 3rd person stealther

[@thefakebanette3483]

If they want him to be more a stealth killer get rid of all of his tells I would be down for that

[@MoggedByPutrid]

@ I mean he has this brown addon when combined with monitor and silk pillow can give you a 12 meter terror radius

[@epichomie5462]

I can acknowledge how chucky with a 10-12 second cooldown was a problem but this is too extreme #revertchucky

[@weskuhplayuh]

I haven't played Chucky since July ish, is the scamper cancel bug still around. Basically if you tried to vault a window or pallet and pressed space bar too fast it would cancel your power and not vault anything. it was so annoying because the scamper check box was so tiny

[@vindruva9640]

honestly if they just nerfed the movement speed and nothing else I think it would be a decent change but 8m/s is too little. 9m/s would have been a good middle point + he didn't need the cooldown nerf on top of that cause unlike spirit, he doesn't have a 40% cd reduction addon

[@assembled1855]

And they should change the running shoes addon where he gets 1+ movement speed increase of slice and dice which will make him 10 m/s.

[@lordsolrak1713]

As a only survivor player, BRING BACK CHUKKY!. He did not deserved it at all

[@treceiver]

Don’t forget they also buffed already good killer Singularity:/

[@doompunk64]

Singularity’s changes were more quality of life, not really buffs. He was already insanely good before.

[@dave3895]

You got the deathslinger treatment

[@christianftt3136]

pls be serious insta ads was unhealthy for the game and prevented slinger from actually getting buffs

[@dave3895]

@christianftt3136 How was it unhealthy? That was deathslinger's power, being annoying is not a good argument by the way. Slinger has low mobility, no map control, no map presence, his chase was the only redeeming factor about him.

[@christianftt3136]

@@dave3895 deathslinger still has insane chase potential and just cause a killer is designed with a strong chase power does not mean there chase power shouldn’t have counterplay ? besides line of sight blockers if his gun was raised you ether try to dodge a non reactable shot an lose distance or pray he missed the only nerf that you can make an argument about now is his terror radius which granted back then every killer had standardized terror radius but now killers can have unique ones like wesker 28 would be good for him but this isn’t comparable to chucky who as a whole doesn’t have an unhealthy chase power

[@dave3895]

@@christianftt3136 OK then,why is nurse in the game then, or blight or spirit all of them have better chase potential and map pressure than slinger, and it's harder to counter their power or am I wrong?

[@smmo8393]

100% agree. Slice and dice feels so clunky and bad to use now, I’m happy scampering feels better but this however was not the way to nerf chucky. I genuinely hope it’s reverted because with how he feels right now I don’t even want to play the character I’ve dedicated so long to

[@worm11112]

being slower results in survivors getting around corners where you normally would be able to get a hit right, let chucky curve like billy

[@thatfishguy4991]

What pisses me off most about this is 1. We had NO warning this was going to happen. Why not try this out on the PTB first instead of just throwing it on us at random? 2. We JUST got a nerf to him that people were starting to adapt to. It’s funny because I used to be a Pinhead main when I played on DBD mobile and then I got core once they added Chucky and now I’ve returned to being a Pinhead main like a year later because of this

[@Adorabuds]

you needed time to adapt to a 2 second longer cooldown and an add on nerf?

[@thatfishguy4991]

@@Adorabuds2 seconds longer is significant especially when you’re a 110% killer. It’s like how, if they added a 0.5 second additional windup time to Huntress it’d be hugely impactful.

[@MsGhoulz]

I was fine with him before the scamper nerf. Then it turned into a roller coaster.

[@LowEffortDoodles]

Look how they massacred my boy. All you KZbinrs/Streamers kept complaining and The Good Guy turned into The Sad Guy

[@InterchangeofNight]

I loved playing Chuckster and did not mind facing him. Unfort I see a tendency that the devs balance the game around the constant reddit surv main complainers. I main Slinger and his bugs (you hit someone with the redeemer and they still manage to drop a palett although they are chained; bots breaking free easily; a pile of bushes on eyries or rubbish on nostromo making your power uneffective etc.) still have not been fixed. Sad to see Chucky get nerfed and potentially neglected. He was so fun. Lets hope for changes tho.

[@JohnSmith-u6j]

I love chucky. Ive loved going against him, playing as him for awhile now. But at certain fillers his speed and small size does make him feel undodgeable unless you gamble. With that being said, the 14 seconds is too long, and they need to make it so that you can 180 to rescamper, and at least go 90 degrees on the first scamper. Because at the moment, its totally useless survs just hug the pallet/window you vault.

[@someonenamedtailsdoll7805]

I’d say it’s more like Freddy than skull merchant. Both are licensed killers who got some changes that makes them miserable to play

[@frankierosario6981]

The cooldown nerfs were warranted but the speed nerfs on top of them?!!! That will gut the character imo making his cooldown long and the power slow feels terrible

[@NotJarrod]

I swear it seems like chucky has gotten almost nothing but nerfs since he came out. It's like every other patch since he released, he's getting a numbers nerf or just straight up having a whole part of his kit removed. He went from being maybe #6/7/8 in strength on a tier list (in my opinion) to now being like middling, at best. Even after the completely removed scampering under a pallet, he still felt somewhat alright to me (although I hated how it made chucky feel even *more* one-dimensional with less options) because his special attack still felt alright to use. Yet, his power is now longer cooldown yet again, he still has his pallet scamper capability removed, and BHVR have yet to address the fact that window scampers completely blow. It might even be overzealous to say that my injuries on Chucky from window attacks is 1%, because it sucks so bad it doesn't work almost ever and I've just stopped using it for anything outside mobility. I don't mind lil Chuncky being "weaker," but at this point, though I haven't played since this patch notes, I can already tell I'm going to hate playing this killer because they keep slowly just stripping away his options for dealing with tough situations. It makes me particularly sad as Chucky was my first exposure into horror (what a first experience, am I right) and he's such a character even beyond that, so I'll always have a bit of a soft spot for the Chunck, and now they've turned him from a strong but outplayable killer to one of those "why wouldn't I just play X killer instead" kind of killers.

[@vinnie4609]

They didn't nerf the jumping rope (I thonk) so technicly its buffed

[@Doncroft1]

Many killers have almost been ruined by poorly thought-out PTB changes that BHVR had to revert due to negative feedback by testers. But these Chucky changes were never PTB tested. They were dropped on him like a sack of bricks, no warning. Why?

[@Bobby_Sauce.]

Revert him back to 10 seconds with his old dash speed idgaf if a killer is slow and has no map pressure they should have a good chase power

[@doompunk64]

But not a chase power that’s guaranteed hits.

[@oulehlajan]

@@doompunk64 ye he is pretty easy to dodge but survivor crybabies won again, whats next ? Deathslinger with toy Nerf gun ? :D

[@glaive616]

Well I’ll never be playing Chucky again.

[@IllIIllIIlIIll]

The meme in the beginning of the video should have had the Nurse in the spot of SM (because she got 3 of the biggest game changing nerfs to a character but is still the #1 killer) along with SM and Billy for the other 2 people on the scene. Otherwise, good video!

[@somedudeinabox]

The longer slice and dice duration feels less like a compensation buff, and more like a slap on the wrist. Chucky feels like a midget legion now.

[@xplodingsushi3261]

I hate that they did this to him I’ve honestly seen a lot of complaining so I don’t think this will stick and it was really scummy to do a massive nerf like this in a hot fix and not have it in a ptb

[@Notwedsquid]

I have to play with chucky to see the nerfs but seeing them in customs with the bots i think the biggest nerf to me was his cooldown but also moving alot slower, but being able to traversal more is good but having that cooldown hurts, my problems with chucky for the longest time since his release was the slice and dice hitbox is way to big you could dodge it but still get hit cause the hitbox is just to big, like the devs cant seem to find a spot where chucky could be enjoyable for people im one of the few that likes chucky but he frustrates me with the gigantic hitbox on slice and dice.

[@Lormingo16]

lol as a survivor main I love to see killers get nerfed . Smoking on that CHUCKY PACK !! (I appreciate you killers. Killers keep the game going)

[@cdxxlxil9159]

Ive said this 5 years ago before now, even before Nemesis came out; i know this opinion is unpopular, but i find there is truth in it. There is no way to make Chucky work in a way that represents his series, make him viable, while not making him frustrating to fight. People already didn't like it when Pig and Ghostface could crouch to reduce their height, so what was BHVR expecting to happen when you put that base kit in a killer while giving him free stealth and a distance closer that rivals Blight and Nurse. Information and distance are the 2 most valuable things survivors can harness and Chucky removes both by himself. Once you throw in perks that give him information or revokes more of your information, select maps that have generators enclosed to get free hits or downs if survivors are injured, and multiple traditionally safe tile becoming off limits makes him an excessively toxic and demoralizing killer to fight against. In the best case scenario, Chucky gets reworked into something that allows him to viable while cutting back aspects that make him less cheesy, but that risks not represing the IP well in the same way it currently does for pyramid head. Realistically, i think the devs will just pull the plug and kill him. They did it with Freddy and Skull Merchant, so i don't think it's a stretch to say the same wouldn't happen here.

[@Vengeance_Productions]

He Honestly Was the One of the Most Balanced Killers in The I'm A Survivor Main His. Add-ons Felt Healthy Except Rat Poison Like He Was Very Counterable and He Felt good on both sides. his Cooldown is a good change Slice & Dice Change is Terrible. Like Survivors Should Have Reaction Time. Like You Can Loop and Juke as Survivor He Is My Favorite Killer to Go Against Tied with Blight. BHVR Balancing Team Revert Slice & Dice BHVR Balancing Team Feels Off Ever Since 8.0.0 .

[@Herman_Hedning]

This is just BHVR’s old business tactic that we have seen for years. Release OP licensed killers at launch to get everybody to buy them then nerf them 2-3 months after and profit. Or they are nerfing him because his killrate is very high and his usage rate is high, that’s the only other explanation i can see why he is getting nerfed. Usually their balance philosophy is to keep every killer at a 60 % killrate, anything more than that and they usually get nerfed.

[@OgichiGame]

Sorry, but your favorite killer has been arbitrarily deemed "unfun" by crybaby redditors, so regardless of the actual strength of the killer you will be receiving nerfs in every update until everyone stops playing that killer entirely, then maybe you'll get a rework after 2 years of asking.

[@doompunk64]

What’s fun about getting a free hit every x seconds?

[@OgichiGame]

Look, here's one now

[@Rambone1978]

@@OgichiGameYou know this dude runs in a straight line and wonders why he gets two tapped by Chucky

[@spiritupgrades]

@@doompunk64 well?

[@therandomgamer8107]

I swear the skill of the majority of survivors are just bad, so they whine and complain, and bhvr listens to them, which is the dumb part.

[@kingflash6972]

The Chucky Nerfs imo feels really bad and makes a bit too reactable, it's like how he is on a PTB for a new character and their clunky and news work, I still agree that his charge time should be 1.5 seconds long like the downside on the silk pillow add-on. But in addition I would Increase his Slice and Dice movement speed to 9m/s instead of 10m/s or 8m/s and maybe make his slice and dice duration to 1.5 seconds instead of 1.8 or 1.2 so a nice middle ground for both the duration and movement speed. The cooldown in my opinion I would think it should go back to 12 seconds so back to the middle ground. The Slice and Dice missed attack and successful attack could be adjusted to (2.7 secs for successful hits) (2.5 seconds for missing) when they are both 3 seconds and 2.25 seconds. Hidey-Ho Mode Duration should honestly be 10 seconds and add the ability to automatically exit Hidey-Ho Mode if you cancel a slice and dice after you use 50% of your Hidey-Ho Mode. But I think the safest is to revert him back and make slice and dice charge up longer and make him more punishing when missing and a little more forgiving when hitting, and the Hidey-Ho Mode adjustments added onto, cuz imo I always look at Chucky as a worse Oni, but a better Pig and I honestly think he would be a fair B Tier average killer but decently strong if you master him or he'll maybe even Low A Tier as an argument but idk.

[@thatfishguy4991]

I don’t get the nerf to hidey ho mode duration. It just encourages all Chuckys to play the same. Right now Hidey Ho Mode is kind of pointless anyway. It really just serves to activate slice and dice. I don’t think it needs a nerfed duration at all.

[@maiqluvsskooma239]

I just wish BHVR would have a vision and make a Killer that's faithful to source material and simply feels good to play. They keep tweaking shit for the worse and making these Killers feel like ass to play. I know Scamper Chucky was frustrating but bring it back for all I care. Nurse and Blight exists in the same game as Chucky, why must Chucky be gutted? Makes no sense to me.

[@spiritupgrades]

4:16 25% not 50% at least 25%, it won't feel as debilitating

[@The_WIll_OF_D99]

I was waiting for this after seeing how they butchered him. Can't wait to watch this video 😤

[@LightWavess]

No worries Trickster is somewhere there still hanging after a year or so. They said they will revert him but i bet they'll just leave him hanging

[@misanthropicworld6958]

Nah I like the old trickster all they had to do was remove the recoil when throwing the knife’s

[@LightWavess]

@misanthropicworld6958 wdym? By hanging i meant he's petty much dead i liked the old 6 knives to injure too

[@Leonlonnyluv]

Don't worry, he'll be getting reworked in a year! So you should just deal with these nerfs until the rework comes around.....yea.... I get what they were going for, but if they have these changes down the pipe line they should atleast put them on the ptb.

[@yatrtiah]

Nah, I say make his smol ahh even weaker. Make his height represent his power level

[@MistarZtv]

Oh lord this will just encourage more to play blight. 😐

[@aliimiza8421]

Oh no, it feels miserable to play Chucky, what do we dooooo??? It felt just as miserable to play against Chucky before the nerfs and I am glad I don‘t get to see Chucky 3 times consecutively every time I play this game.

[@doompunk64]

Someone gets it. Only concerned about how he feels to play but not to play against, which almost nobody I’ve seen actually likes going against chucky.

[@melonplaiz5611]

And making him feel miserable will fix that? Seriously? We can make thee killer feel fun for thee other side without making them miserable to play

[@Adorabuds]

he's is easily still one of the strongest killers in the game, Comparing the chucky nerfs to sm nerfs is crazy

[@noscrubsm]

I can list 5 to 6 killers stronger and more problematic than Chucky, he is strong but not overpowered

[@Zakon673]

@@noscrubsm Chucky before this nerf was top 6 in the game. You had Nurse, then Blight, then Hillbilly. And then after those 3 you had Chucky, Dracula, and Spirit all crammed together being roughly identical in strength to each other. And those three were still in a tier of their own compared to the rest of the cast. And Chucky was by far the easiest character to play among those 6.

[@Notwedsquid]

I don’t know to be honest he could honestly still be strong but also become alot weaker not terrible weak but going down a whole tier weak we would have to see if these changes stay or get some of these changes reverted.

[@Garfieldfancatylsyt]

Bro why did Chuck got nerf

[@Brawlatron]

I was wondering how you were feeling about this... honestly you seem to think higher of current Chucky than I do lmao But gad damn, if BHVR keeps nuking killers that survivors hate.... my boy Singularity ain't too far down the list 😓

[@Silent.Heaven]

Lovely changes bhvr. No.1 chucky hater is pleased

[@somersfamily]

Leave it to behavior to fk over more killers. At this point, just remove him from the game. It's a joke

[@BHProductions2024]

These changes are terrible. I'm probably gonna stop playing him for a while. They should've kept him the way he was. I started playing chucky because he was fun and good. I want the killer I play to be good and fun. I like playing myers, ghostface, or legion, but they are not that good so I don't play them cause I have a better chance of getting my ass kicked compare to playing wesker, chucky, or spirit who I can play and not get my ass kicked and also have fun. So yeah I hate the changes

[@yuutsunna1339]

Revert the changes

[@HellCow420]

They got my boi 😢

[@worgenlord3424]

It was in everybodies head that he needs a Nerf. He was a killer where you had enough of survs stomping you. You just picked chucky and do a 30 winstreak accidently, and im not saying the player is a pro. Just an avarage killer. Now ppl actually need to think when playing him, its more fair. He was a spirit who can actually see you, chucky was so disguisting. I think its more fair now and not just an easy win killer.

[@patrikresz2706]

That is not Skull Merchant treatment, it's Twins treatment, and I see you don't like it. We didn't either, but we had to wait 2+ years for it to be changed, BHVR responds faster nowdays.

[@thefakebanette3483]

I'm comparing it more to skully due to the play rate drop

[@KermitBinLaden911]

These changes are absolutely horrible. I doubt they will stay in the game tho due to all the overwhelming negative feedback.

[@misanthropicworld6958]

Skull merchant deserves the nerf but not chucky

[@thefakebanette3483]

She did not and the precedent set of making an annoying killer almost useless until fixes come later is a bad one we should not encourage

[@Zenzei842]

She didn’t, and quite frankly y’all did this to yourselves. You wanna complain about a killer because you can’t be bothered to learn her counterplay? Yall wanna celebrate poor balance decisions by rendering a killer weaker than they have a right to be? That’s fine, but keep that same energy when it happens to other killers like chucky ❤️

[@misanthropicworld6958]

@@Zenzei842 bruh all she had to is placed the drone on loop until it injured and if you leave the loop she’ll catch up to you with the haste she gets therefore she will always get hit/down making it unfair to play against since there was little counterplay/no counterplay chucky didn’t deserve the nerfs as I didn’t understand why they nerf

[@thefakebanette3483]

All Chucky had to do was aim a hit a hit some one even if the leave the loop he still catches up and gets the m1 it's just not fair. You the issue with that? Skully was annoying not unfair there is a difference and I don't think a killer be nerfed because they play in a way people find annoying​@@misanthropicworld6958

[@misanthropicworld6958]

@ those killers require a high skill ceiling except nurse if you play nurse for a straight week you can get really good at her but other killers take more time to master skull merchant doesn’t require any skill all she has to do press a button so it’s not the same

[@assembled1855]

Survivor mains needs to be banned from community and possibly internet for good because they always asks for nerf to due to having skill issues against a killer. Edit: So I hope they revert this in the next hotfix just like they did for reverting movement penalty from Unknown and Skull Merchant.

[@armasapee]

Also how they want to nerf Thrill of the hunt next patch. Still it took years to nerf adrelaline and Dead hard. They still are S tier

[@AllOfARCH]

"Killer mains need to be banned from the community and possibly the internet for good because they always ask for nerfs due to having skill issues against good survivors." - Fixed the grammar issues and flipped the roles. You see how this makes no sense right

[@lilchipo]

Common survivor main vs killer main brainrot, your lack of experience in the game shows

[@AllOfARCH]

@@VladDracula_Tepes to show you how dumb your reasoning is

[@AllOfARCH]

@@armasapee Thrill does need to be nerfed, just like dead hard and adrenaline. I'd even say Deliverance needs to not work in end game collapse. Survivor perks needing nerfs doesn't mean killer perks don't. New Thrill can easily be cheesed by certain killers like doctor and singularity, making it borderline impossible to do anything. Eruption call of brine overcharge meta got nerfed as well for being broken. MFT got nerfed for being problematic, same with other perks from both sides. If it is broken or problematic, it doesn't matter which side it is. Pain res got nerfed twice and is still S tier. Good perks are not the same as OP perks.

[@nocturnalverse5739]

It's ok to just complain, btw. It's not your job to fix a problem. Your criticisms were constructive because you gave specifics. But I know y'all gotta hit that video time. glhf

[@thefakebanette3483]

It's not a matter of time or anything like I do not go in thinking about that. It's just something I'm not a fan of others doing so I try to not do it myself is all. I'm sure I have but I try

[@MoggedByPutrid]

Great opinions good video❤ cya next one

[@geno_xi]

I was waiting for this king!!

[@VetriVade]

He still feels like a very solid killer

[@jorgemelendez3516]

I hate this. This is BS what they have done to my killer. And you agreeing to 14 second cooldown I don't think so. He has no map pressure what part you don't get. The dashing looks terrible easy to dodge. What have you people done. Especially you goddamn survivors. Now it's not fun for me anymore 😡👎🗑️

[@doompunk64]

“My killer” lol go outside and pick a killer that isn’t braindead to play next time

[@jorgemelendez3516]

@doompunk64 how about you get some skill that only requires you doing gens, you brain-dead survivors. You have a problem for us Killers to enjoy ourselves being at least a simple killer to use. Get out of town kid. Without us there won't be any matches. You're just another survivor who is easy to get caught. And most likely you're one of those survivors that quit on first hook 🪝 silly meat.

[@mangiferaposting]

deserved lol

[@doi5451]

I think these were great changes. Chucky was a braindead killer who had an unavoidable attack in most cases. If you're uncomfortable with the way he feels right now, you're just adjusting to the strength difference. He's not weak in this state, he just requires skill for once.

[@The_Cylly]

He’s braindead if the survivors play with the monitor off. The “unavoidable” dash is hard locked to a certain turn radius and automatically locks to windows and dropped pallets, meaning that there are things you can abuse to force the chucky to miss. As for chuck spots? Just hold still and keep an eye on the different paths chucky can take to get to you, chuck spots only work if you play into them, so force chucky to act instead. There’s counterplay to him, and once you employ that he has to start using his brain in order to succeed, ergo, he’s only brainless because you let him be.

[@mattiacicchetti3778]

I agree, Chucky was an A+ tier killer, now i think he will still be on B+ with a lot of skill expression. Too bad i hate him and won't ever feel fun to play as him and against him

[@jaymatsu2367]

You're seriously going for that argument, the killer is brain dead so it needs nerf I've seen people say sadako is a dead brain killer yet she's easily countered if played well

[@thefakebanette3483]

​@@mattiacicchetti3778and see that's the issue if the point is to lower player frustration and you are still going to hate him well it didn't matter did it, cough skull merchant cough

[@mattiacicchetti3778]

@@thefakebanette3483 Sorry, but this actually means these killers are badly designed, no matter what happens. And you must accept that he's the most uncounterable killer ever and one of the most hated. If he had a rework that would actually compliment both players skill expression i would love him. But as it is now, not even Behaviour knows what to do, and not even Otzdarva has a rework idea for him