Review: 2017 Kia Forte5 SX (Manual) - The Overlooked Turbo Hatch

[@klasseact6663]

KIA needs to market this car much better💡

[@Quanteus]

the new generation will get more marketing.

[@MasterGio95]

​it didnt get better marketing. I never heard of the Forte5 until I stumbled on a used one and bought it. It's kind of sad that so many people don't know about it. It really is a little sleeper

[@ZBasic64]

Looks fun to drive just like the Veloster turbo

[@DJMontePGH]

It's amazing! I got a 2018 in this gray, with 4,000 miles on it for $15,900.

[@VasyaIvanovichPupkin]

Dare I say that this is the proper "old school" hot hatch? And I do not mind an up-charge for the manual, s long as it is still offered as an option.

[@VasyaIvanovichPupkin]

And the style is definitely better than Fiesta.

[@DJMontePGH]

Anyone curious of the fuel economy. I live near Phoenix. I drive 55 miles per day. I have the 7spd DSG. Speed limit is 75 for over half the drive. Stop and go for the last 20 miles. For the first 30 miles if I keep it at 75, I can get over 30 mpg. My best was 37, although I had a really big tail wind the whole way home. Benefit of living where it's flat. But on average I get around 32 for that section as long as I don't hit traffic. So the best fuel economy overall I got was 33 mpg combined. Worst I got was 26.5 mpg combined. That's really flogging it and blipping the throttle so I can hear the *wooosh* from the intake. I absolutely love this car. I'd like to thank MM a fellow Pittsburgh native, for helping me decide to buy this car.

[@bobthecar]

my 2006 2l Honda civic got better mileage i have the 2017 kia forte 5 sx love the car 7 speed auto

[@VQ25DETT]

I had a 16 SX and it was a fun car. I had more fun flooring that car than my current STI. Another interesting thing is that I got 19.3 MPG average and I am getting 17.5 in my STI right now lol. That engine really is thirsty.

[@parsley0120]

I had a 16 SX also but my average MPG was a lot higher, even with hounding it a bit. My average with my Kia was around 27 MPG. I could consistently get 30 MPG or better if I kept my foot out of it. I live in a small town, very little city driving with speed limits always being 35-55 mph. That’s what made all the difference with my MPGs.

[@diydrivenGA]

I have a 2015...great car but Fuel economy is worse (22)....also the handling is largely due to the rear torsion bar you didn't mention. It sucks but can be addressed by a rear sway bar. When it first released in 2015, it was the value and feature packed car, now it's dated and some of the content removed since they weren't selling....My advice for anyone interested, look for this on the used Market with an extended warranty, and buy a head unit if you want apple play

[@CalvinHikes]

Awesome... last years model. Its 2018, but here he is, livin in 2017.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Take it up with Kia. I review whatever I'm sent. Also, the 2018 model is the same thing.

[@androiduberalles]

3:54 that would bother me so much that the clocks don't match

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

James Golen I would set them to different times to confuse my passengers

[@GETUPANDGO]

Yeah, same here, that's very weird. I have like 6 clock displays in my Civic Si, but they're all perfectly matched, heh

[@MrTrashcan1]

Just bought a used 2019 Elantra GT N Line. I was expecting the Elantra GT and Forte5 to be twins other than cosmetic differences. But in fact, they were not. Different dimensions and capacities, different gearing. They share dash, infotainment, and engine, and that's about it.

[@80GP400]

In some of those Kia's you can Jack the lever on the left lower side and you can adjust your height Matt. Great Video.

[@MasterGio95]

I just got a 2018 forte5 sx, and while the seats go down much lower, it's far too uncomfortable to shift from that angle and the clutch pedal sits so high that you'd have to use your toes or hang your leg to use it.

[@TheZ06Drifter]

Hey Matt great vid as always but I have a request , is there anyways u can start including the base price and more importantly the “as tested price “ it would help greatly for people that are checking out your vids and trying to buy a car , thanks .

[@maverickmason4946]

You should review a horse, that would be funny. wait till april first and say ''reviewing a 1 horsepower mustang'' and review a mustang horse lol

[@Dwilsonmusic145]

Mason scottfree he should do it for april fools!

[@maverickmason4946]

Dwilsonmusic145 yeah that's what I meant😂

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

"let's turn onto this back trail" :D

[@tommartin1223]

April 1st and easter fall on sane day this year

[@Rico24337]

Did you know 1 horsepower is actually equivalent to 6 horses? So it would be a "0.16 horsepower mustang".

[@buildmorefarms1007]

Like the orange trimmed interior, it POPS!

[@mfmf100]

Seems a little less finished than the Elantra Sport or GT which has same engine and costs same or less. It’s also absurd that the manual is +2.2k with nothing bundled in. Good luck finding one if you want it; they’re going to sell about 5 of these.

[@dank_c.152]

They are very overlooked. Really smooth cars too.

[@FishBeeProductions]

Reminds me of a golf, I like it

[@jsan4108]

Doesnt volkswagen own kia

[@mituljariwala9821]

J's Fitness Hyundai owns kia

[@profitglen]

I've never seen a car reviewer get this excited and giddy. lol.

[@donovan4105]

0:19 lmao. Those taillights look like the Porsche Cayenne 😂

[@everythingautomotiveeta5839]

All they need to crack that 30 hwy figure is SLIGHTLY taller gearing.... say instead of 3k at 70mph 2700rpm.... very small difference in gearing but would definently be more comfortable and get you at least 1 more hwympg..... also the handling..... tires I've learned is one of if not THE most important item or "mod" you can do to a car. Take some time look at your climate and what you expect from your car and choose what's best for you. But some ps4s or cup2..... All the way down to some cheap federal RSRR tires would totally transform the feel of that car... anything inbetween too like toyo r888 or potenza RE71R etc

[@danielescobedo8460]

Very true I almost don't use the 5th gear. 6th should have been 5 and 6th more O.drive

[@integrafreak1]

Really interesting car.Can these be tuned to squeeze out some extra pines?

[@FireDrillNinja]

It would be interesting to see you review a Kia Soul. It's an interesting vehicle in general, in my opinion. Great video by they way.

[@MikeDancy]

I bet that tire spin would suck in the winter. I have a 18 Forte5 LX automatic. I'm curious to see how it does in the winter.

[@ES350gitgapped]

I'm trying to get a 2016 Forte Koup SX or might settle for a Forte5 SX and boi I am excited. I've always had Ford Panther platform vehicles. 4 Crown Vics and a Grand Marquis.. time to finally have a sub-7sec 0-60 and 4000lbs down to 3000lbs will be nice.

[@ES350gitgapped]

I got my 16' Koup SX a few months ago and we've put in a BOV, intercooler resonator delete, and custom muffler delete/axleback. Next up, catch can, intake from SXTH, and eventually a tune!

[@83FB7]

It doesn’t really compete with the hot hatches though. This is a compact and doesn’t compete directly with the Fiesta. More comparable to the Focus but again, it’s not really competing with the ST. It would be more in line with a Titanium model Focus. This just packs more features than a Titanium does with a better engine. You also forgot to mention the heated back seat as well.

[@enthused7591]

6:24 I must be color blind, because those are 100% red to me, not orange lol.

[@datahigh]

I can't believe they discontinued hatchbacks.... hopefully they come back

[@towncaptain7]

I personally don't think this compares to the Fiesta ST or Focus ST, Matt. Maybe more the Golf, Civic Hatchback, or Mazda Hatch GT

[@hialeahhigh]

Hey Matt question, do you have a coupon code for those Vava dash cams you use to review? 🤔

[@Ezero8]

There are so many shared parts as my last gen Elantra GT but with a turbo. I should've gotten this instead. But which is better, this Forte5 SX or the 2018 Elantra GT Sport?

[@bwfam0521]

J.Chan DEFINATELY the elantra gt sport. It has independent rear suspension! Also this generation forte is quite old.

[@Jacobk66]

Seriously just look at a GTI. Some great deals on 2017s they’ll probably be cheaper than either! Much more polished, think of it as an Audi without the negative luxury car stigma

[@Denverian]

Hyundai is always better than Kia except minivans

[@enthused7591]

This car should be $21k. You can get a WRX for the price of this thing and a WRX is really worth 15% more at least due to multiple factors including not only the time-tested phenomenal AWD system and extra power/better handling, but mainly the resale value. people aren't afraid to spend big money on used WRX's. A used Kia FWD hatchback? I'd just wish you luck trying to re-sell one of those for more than $12,000 to $13,000 even with low miles.

[@TR33ZY_CRTM]

Enthused But here's the problem, Subaru's are way less reliable, and they're going to stop making the WRX this year. Yes, i know, it's hard to grasp the concept as a Subaru fanboy, but it's true. Also, you're also forgetting about sales tax and dealer markups. Since WRX's are so overrated, dealers are going to mark it $20k-$30k over sticker, meanwhile, with the Kia, not so much.

[@enthused7591]

Fuckin lol at everything you just typed.

[@TR33ZY_CRTM]

Enthused Denial much?

[@iDrive4fun93]

Subaru bummed the boxer motor off of VW and ruined it... my brother owned 2 and neither made it past 120k miles. I drive an Elantra GT with 165k miles and it runs perfect, starts right up when it’s 0 degrees out, and with the multi link IRS and 5 speed it’s quite a bit of fun to whip around.

[@enthused7591]

No offense but Elantras are for people who settle. It's like buying a Corolla or a base model Civic. I'm sure it's a fine car, just extremely boring to look at and drive. I've owned many old VW's and they last long because they don't make any horsepower. Subarus are good little motors if you take care of them, but like ANY other small turbocharged engine, of course they'll need top ends refreshed every 120 to 160k miles. I've owned multiple WRXs with 150k+ miles on them. You inevitably sacrifice a little high-mileage reliability when you're receiving respectable horsepower and torque in return.

[@BRIANBOBCHAPMAN]

cool COOL Review: 2017 Kia Forte5 SX (Manual) - The Overlooked Turbo Hatch

[@AmpyxMusic]

Thanks for using one of my tracks homie :)

[@AmpyxMusic]

Second note, actually watched a few of your videos before, good stuff dude!

[@maverickmason4946]

Ampyx That's your track? You mean you made it?

[@AmpyxMusic]

Mason scottfree the song yeah lol

[@maverickmason4946]

Ampyx If you saw my other comment, I hope your not offended. I didn't think the track, fit the rest of the video, it has the wrong vibes for a car review of this sort.

[@AmpyxMusic]

Mason scottfree I really don’t care what anyone says about it. My tracks have hundreds of thousands of views some even millions. More people like my music than hate it so I really don’t care what one person thinks 😂 I’ve heard it all my dude. Thick skin at this point. We’re cool tho. No worries lol

[@JD-ef1jb]

You're killin me Matt. You review every Kia except the Soul turbo. and then you review the Fiat equivalent to the soul. you're killin me smalls.... =) great review as always. *wonders if I could swap my auto transmission in my turbo Soul for the Manual transmission in the turbo Forte...

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Haha sorry, maybe Kia will send me a Soul Turbo. I can ask for one.

[@JD-ef1jb]

I was just curious your thoughts on it. I have one and I love the power but LOATHE the DualClutch auto transmission. It almost ruins the car for me. (which is why i wish they'd give a manual as an option like they did with the forte5sx) So I just wondered what you'd think of it. As always keep up the good work. Thanks for the reply!!

[@FPSOrangeTV]

Not a fan of the soup, Screams feminist to me.

[@Ezero8]

Bad comparison with a Fiesta ST. That's a much smaller sub-compact. The Kia will also be far more reliable than the Ford.

[@flubdreload2818]

Kia’s are far from reliable.

[@jabbers2126]

@@flubdreload2818 I've known people to have KIA Fortes for a long time with little to no issues out of them. It's all about how you treat them too however.

[@robertclemens1217]

@@flubdreload2818 What is that based on ? Car complaints the Ford Fiesta looks less reliable in 2011-2014 than Kia Forte.

[@subeyguy66]

@@robertclemens1217 Yeah the 1.6 Ecoboost is a total piece of shit. Numerous catastrophic faults. The 2.0 in the focus is much more hearty.

[@ZBasic64]

Haha "you can fit a quart of milk in there". That was funny!

[@jacklarkson4505]

its actually called KIA Cerato in my country. also fucking love it because its MT. also its damn funny they put the KM/H smaller for entire planet to use and MP/H bigger for only one country.

[@hunterdonnelly7422]

Matt do u choose the cars to review or do u review whatever cars u get offered too?

[@MattMaranMotoring]

I can request cars and decline a car if I don't want to review it. But I don't always get the cars I request.

[@jonnieinthe256]

Think it has the same turbo engine that’s in my 2017 Elantra sport

[@titsmagee3112]

Seriously DONT PUT LOAD ON THE ENGINE IN A HIGH GEAR WITH LOW RPMS di turbo engines get very hot very quickly doing that that’s how you break rings. Seriously remember this shit man

[@yadvindergakhal4294]

Tits Magee If it's not his car, why would he care? Joking, but don't do that in your personal cars Matt!

[@84jdgregory]

For some reason these things just sat on the lot. Especially with manuals. Got mine for $16,900. They're not fast but they work. And they look good.

[@mycabbages3538]

Hey I might be buying one in a couple days. You’ve had yours about a year? How’s it holding up? I’m concerned with the oil burning issues and the fact that it’s made in Mexico. And is the turbo engine reliable?

[@84jdgregory]

@@mycabbages3538 I bought mine in 2017. I haven’t had a single issue. 86k on the odometer. Gas mileage kinda stinks for a small car though. With 87 octane I only get about 22mpg with very little highway. If I go out of town and it’s all highway it’ll go up to 26/27 mpg.

[@Krezo200]

10:40 Thank me later 😎

[@TheAdventureAuto]

krezo You saved me 20 minutes

[@DaveEuson]

You mentioned it only had one mode. There is a normal (Eco) mode and a Sport mode.

[@dennisalex824]

Z4 E89 review pls 35is would be the best

[@nos110]

Never WOT a turbo car on low RPMs especially in 5-6 gears ...

[@bikes7777]

Why would you not use the in car navigation? I have android auto in my Hyundai sonata and never use it. It is not as easy to use as the car system and also I got sick of always being interrupted when I would receive an email while driving.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

It’s way easier to program and type with a phone plus the maps are always more up to date and have free live traffic alerts too.

[@bwfam0521]

Not to mention waaaay better voice features, I mean Google/siri vs Hyundai? No competition

[@Jacobk66]

I’d agree. Some navigation actually works with your phone to enter destinations and sends it to the car (BMW and Audi)

[@Lollikips]

That's pretty cool, but those are the longest fucking headlights I've ever seen

[@xdaxkiller578]

Which car is more fun to drive, this KIA or the Fiat 500 Abarth ??

[@maverickmason4946]

''it's cool to have a flat bottom''. I don't think so, oh wait, you were talking about the steering wheel? Nevermind

[@ryansvloggingit5492]

Ford fiesta st rocks #1in in power and handling

[@mikemorales1725]

Is that why they stopped importing it to the US?

[@ryansvloggingit5492]

Mike Morales no they came out with new model overseas it won't come here for 2yrs

[@The97randomkid]

I really hope you are correct, Ryan. I've heard Ford wasn't going to be importing the Fiesta and Fiesta ST at all into the United States due to lack of sales. Where did you hear the Fiesta ST would be imported to the US in 2 years?

[@ryansvloggingit5492]

WannabeST on some English guys channel I'll look it up

[@maqjode]

It looked better before the redesign of the front.

[@lecoureurdesbois86]

Why can't I find any manual one?

[@Lambdasonddd]

Haven't they already released new Forte a week ago?

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Yeah, but that one is only a sedan for now.

[@mituljariwala9821]

Matt Maran Motoring it's going to have a CVT transmission

[@doublea10231]

The steering wheel looks like it has a big ass forehead

[@JDsHouseofHobbies]

I hear the Fiesta ST is dead. So...I guess the Focus ST is it's competition. I own a Kia, I love it, but I'd take the Focus ST.

[@ArchstantonsMTgrave]

15:45 Oooooo Kool cones

[@brandman7410]

8:30 and 3:30 grip lol

[@ernestofregoso3946]

Matt Maran motoring please do a stick shift driving lesson I wanna get a Honda Civic type r or si please I need to learn

[@axc8932]

I have a 2015 SX, the door panel is leather soft touch. You’re being too picky over a turn signal.

[@kiliabgonzalez9977]

5th gear at 45 mph lol. Ofcourse you’re gonna get bad response of the turbo. What rpm were you even in?

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

How can the manual be more expensive???? In Australia auto is usually about 3k more

[@dank_c.152]

High demand on hatchbacks is all.

[@wolf0491]

front and back look ok but that side profile just not looking good to me.

[@millennial_weeb2382]

“Shift Knob feels light” Buy your own Shift Knob, what? It’s >$10, a drip in the sink compared to the rest of the car.. That’s not really a complaint imo just a personal opinion not flaw of the car.

[@johnnybgoode2333]

Needs more clocks

[@SS-vo7jr]

2:34pm AND 2:35pm at the same time?! How is this possible?!?

[@neovenom9833]

Sorry but that car has bad traction, could be the tires though. I believe in Europe its called a C'eed GT (the Pro c'eed is the 3dr version) They are almost GTI money in their price range over here. and a full second slower 0-60 compared to an ST or GTI. While the Stinger GT might be good value for money this car isn't. Maybe in the States it's cheaper. Lots of Asian cars are cheaper in the US. A BRZ/86/FRS is easily 35k-40K$ over here.

[@A_guan]

I'd rather get a mazda3 hatch. This Kia is too outdated for my liking. I'll wait for the redesigned Forte 5

[@bobthe469]

Review a Toyota Sienna

[@bullsfan2021]

so basically the same as an elantra hatch?

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Similar mechanically. I haven't driven an Elantra hatch so it's hard for me to compare how the two drive.

[@christianruiz7348]

You want the seat to go lower? Well man, do i have an awesome chair for you...

[@boxingvortex4364]

All these idoits bashing the car because its Kia fail to realize that Kia and Hyundai maks some of the more reliable cars on the road today. Wake up and join the rest of the world in 2018, Kia is not an upstart anymore, the the Stinger, Optima, Soul, Sorento, and yes the Forte prove that, just ask J.D. power and Associates. So please get off of the old and played out "It's a Kia" bandwagon because most of those people have never even driven or been inside of one!!!

[@wanziganga]

Tell them, kias are one of the most reliable cars on the market.

[@Dwilsonmusic145]

Can we all just agree to say no to piano glossy black on steering wheels! That is going to look GROSS in no time!!!

[@charlesurias]

No piano black, anywhere, not even on pianos.

[@maverickmason4946]

I love you and your video's, but that intro music makes me cringe so hard. I understand you have to choose from non-copyrighted music btw, but still.

[@kiliabgonzalez9977]

The mute and FF feature is an incredible thing.

[@kiliabgonzalez9977]

Shahnewaz Ahmed constructive criticism would be things he could improve on in his reviews. Music in an intro hardly matters. It’s subjective. Some people like the music, some don’t, but it has nothing to do with the review, so it’s hardly constructive.

[@kiliabgonzalez9977]

Shahnewaz Ahmed Gotcha lol, I agree.

[@Chukwu1967]

Is this the Ceed?

[@driftattack11]

damn, the manual transmission is a $2,200 option...

[@drewyager4020]

Moon Township. Nice

[@miketrav]

was anything jarring about it?

[@gabrielsirialevario3505]

Muy bonito auto, buen trabajo de kia

[@GETUPANDGO]

Looks like a mix of a Focus and a Yaris...

[@BenTroxell]

There are like 8 million other cars better than that car for $27k. I think you were a bit too nice to it in this review.

[@markzuckerbergette6185]

BTroxTV I disagree , I think he was being a little harsh on the interior section

[@bwfam0521]

Agree about the price. Used though, possibly one of the best deals in the lukewarm hatch market

[@DrftingTrance]

Soon Kwon If you want a econobox that screams average.

[@bailorg]

Agreed. Watching the video, I kept thinking, "not bad, I guess", until he dropped the fact it costs $27k.

[@revans4257]

Interior looks like a minivan

[@sohogen8482]

This thing is faster than a frs 😂😂😂

[@TheResolute24]

A chrysler pacifica is faste then an FR-S lmao

[@DrftingTrance]

Yea good luck with a forte on the track

[@sohogen8482]

DrftingTrance yeah because the average consumer goes to the track lmao

[@bwfam0521]

Who actually buys thus car and goes to the track with it? This is a fun daily driver packed with features not offered in other better driving, more expensive cars

[@98thebishoy]

Why does everyone always have to compare any car to the FRS .. The first can not be compared to anything. Daily driving an FRS for two years. That car is always about cornering and going balls to the wall. If you aren't doing that you won't understand why people go with that platform. Unless you drive that car you can't say anything about it.

[@Jacobk66]

I’d question anyone who’d buy this over a GTI. If that’s too expensive just buy a leftover 2017!

[@chrisdigital]

VW are junk.... Worked on them professionally for years. You couldn't give me one for free.

[@carlb5865]

so you can't have it all. these car manufacturers are like playing car musical chair with interior, exterior aesthetics and quality. Don't like the sporty Civic, get this and you get cheaper looking very bad interior. While, Civic gets a more upscale interior and downscale ricer exterior! I can go on and on. Even, within Honda, they play car feature musical chair. Don't like the sporty civic with plastic faux vents everywhere? Get the new accord. You can't have it all it seems! And, to some an Accord is just too big of a car for them. Why can't car manufacturers give you everything?

[@diegomontoya8889]

KIA has a better vehicle in their own lineup with this engine... Because they put it into a KIA Soul! Which is better !ooking and far more practical than the Forte. If you are a person enamored with hatchbacks, look to this car's cousin, the Hyundai Elantra GT Sport which has a better design and offers a multi-link rear suspension.

[@serkanister3620]

Why do i feel like u didnt like this car at all? 😁😁

[@kevingarrett398]

Don’t think Matt is impressed w/ this car

[@linajacobs6754]

file quest overwhelming nose descend arise scheme deal raise.

[@maverickmason4946]

displays your ''trip information'', to show how bad your ''trippin''. jk😂

[@angelcanetti8176]

25,000 usd no spare tire.

[@SuperMechguy]

I remember the early models looked liked a wannabe civic

[@ralphralphin]

27K for that - Yea ok, I bet KiA sells 3 or 4 of them, whos gonna spend that much for that car? there are way better cars for less, or more, but at least they are not a KIA

[@daverr8163]

Cars are boring today.

[@gingerbreadman5756]

Over looked.... it should be forgotten

[@botdingo]

Dont let this video distract you from the fact Matt didnt make any faces when driving the Speed3 but acts like the Kia Forte5 is worth half a shit

[@MattMaranMotoring]

The difference is that the Forte doesn't limit boost in low gears like the Mazda does. Mazda avoids wheelspin, Kia lets you spin the front tires as much as you want, leading to me having more fun.

[@botdingo]

>:|

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

Matt Maran Motoring the Speed6 doesn’t limit boost in the first few gears :p and all’s you need is a tune, which greatly improves the Mazda’s driving exhaust experience

[@guccimanlips]

So generic

[@buildmorefarms1007]

Yet here you are watching it!

[@bwfam0521]

Generic indeed. But this platform is quite old. It's the last run before the new one comes out

[@muhann4d]

Some say... restraint.

[@Bad_1nfluence]

This car is forgotten because it sucks. Sell your kids and get a Stinger 👌🏽

[@Quanteus]

it doesn't, it's actually pretty awesome. But you'd have to own one before commenting on it as a daily.

[@hypnotik1314]

Boring, pass

[@shaggy_e210]

How can 403k people stand your voice?

[@drunkpolack7612]

I would buy this, if it wasn't a Kia

[@FrackaLacka]

Taser Face bad reason not to buy one. Modern Kia and Hyundai’s are some of the best cars on the road

[@5.7_TY]

Just go test drive one. I drove the Elantra sport and wanted to trade the Ford Focus in so bad

[@rubberduggy261]

If it was from Toyota it would be better

[@markzuckerbergette6185]

That logic doesn't make sense

[@bwfam0521]

Unfortunate how people miss out on good cars because they think they are too good for a Kia. Same story with the Kia stinger, almost all car channels are saying it's amazing, yet many will pass because of the badge!

[@animalmother4]

Kia = average