REVIEW 2019 Forest River Rockwood 2280BHESP Pop Up Camper

We traded in our 1997 Starcraft Pop up Camper and bought a new Forest River Rockwood 2280BHESP. After 2 months of ownership we finally got it repaired, fixed and aligned enough to take it on our first camping trip. This is the review.
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[@Whatintheblueblazes]

Honestly the most thorough and casual/conversational review I've seen. Fantastic job!

[@sstressfl]

Thank you!

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[@peted7687]

Ive worked in RV business for 5 years and i worked on Forest River pop ups. Their alot of fun, but very delicate, especially the canvas. Im not in that business anymore but started laughing because everything u said was dead on. However, nothing beats camping in a Forest River. Good company.

[@sstressfl]

Pete Cowboys 4 life we have so much fun. Precious memories being made, and time goes by so quickly. Thankful for it my friend 👍 Thank you for sharing 🤗

[@michelletucker2476]

We have the same camper. We love it. Ours did come with a cassette toilet/shower combo, but the outside shower is great for rinsing off. We always let the awning down and attach the top two poles before we raise it, then drop the other two poles. The top ones don’t lock, so it just slides right up. A lot easier than trying to reach it after. Lol Happy camping!

[@deadhead1249]

Great video! Looking into buying our first pop-up so I’m watching a ton of these, yours is by far one of the best! The only discouraging thing in getting one is all the repairs you had to do on a NEW pop-up.

[@sstressfl]

Thank you so much 👍🙏 once I got caught up it has been fine but it’s a shame that they assemble these so quickly. You can save a lot of money on a slightly used one! Whatever you end up with you’ll most likely have some work to do. Praying you find a healthy one 🙏Happy hunting my friend.

[@aurorabutterfly2218]

We have the 2017 popup almost exactly like this one. We bought ours from family who used it once. The water handle was broke on ours as well. We love the camper.

[@sstressfl]

Aurora Butterfly22 so glad to hear that your happy with yours too! It really is a great design and such a fun and comfortable space to spend time with family. Thank you for your comment 🙏❤️ Enjoy!!

[@manoli.k]

Hello. We have this exact same pop up, same year too. The zip up kitchen pantry that hangs from those hooks above the stove should have came with the unit. Also, the awning is much more stable, especially when windy, if you remove the caps from the bottom of the legs and pop them into the black detents that are mounted on the side of the trailer instead of setting them on the ground like in your video. What we also did for additional storage is mounted a roof top hard plastic cargo carrier to the passenger side of the trailers roof rack. Like you, we also tow ours with a minivan (a Chrysler Pacifica with factory tow package). I recently installed a weight distribution hitch and that helped a lot. Thank you for the link to the bike rack. I just purchased one for mine.

[@sstressfl]

Manoli Kokologiannakis that’s so great!! Thank you for sharing! I thought the pantry was included too but the brochure calls it “optional”, also I learned the manufacturer will toss inside each camper misc. things. The dealer told me whatever is inside is yours. We got three bike racks (I purchased 2 more). We ended up buying a pantry. I did not know the caps came off!!! I love it! I am going to do this today 👌 Great tip!! I have been tempted to buy the storage box for the roof... many used boxes available around here and I usually have space on the van roof. Glad to meet another minivan owner towing such a heavy load. It works and is still the best vehicle for our active family of 5. Thank you for your feedback! Sincerest gratitude 🙏👍 God bless you my friend.

[@sbctech741]

One of the best reviews on the internet! I love how you talked about the issues and what you did to fix them. I'm looking into one of these and now I know a lot of good things to look out for. Thanks Michael.

[@sstressfl]

I appreciate the feedback Ron! Also.., if you have a moment, check out my popup playlist: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3_IXn2raduWbrM You'll find newer videos of more severe repairs required. The electric winch lifted the roof all by itself and damaged the frame and roof. I replaced it with a manual winch (much safer and quieter). The roof leaked, everywhere, and was damaging the wood structure. I had to tear it down and seal everything properly. I could have taken it back to the dealer but I did not trust the quality of the work and the amount of time it would take to complete. So I did it myself. I'm not alone in these problems! Sloppy build quality is an issue in the entire RV world. Be prepared! But I will add, we have had amazing fun with this thing!

[@DayOfTheDad]

Just came across this video randomly while looking for ideas for the 2003 Coleman Cheyenne we just bought today from someone and I noticed something... The layout is almost identical! Swap the burners and sink and I think it's pretty much there. Your beds are a size up from ours as well. I guess there just aren't that many layouts you can do in a tent trailer. Awesome video, though. I'm sure I'll find all sorts of stuff to tidy up, although the previous owners kept it super clean! I also have a Thule rack on top, so I'll have to look into buying those bike racks as well!

[@sstressfl]

Jake Hughes it’s so true. I saw an old popup camper online, maybe 30 years old... same layout 😁 it’s such a small space if you get too cute it can kill usability. So yeah... limited layouts that actually work. Enjoy your Coleman! Thanks for your note.

[@reynaperry4830]

Thank you so much for taking the time to make this review, this information is so valuable for future 2280 bhesp owners such as myself!

[@sstressfl]

So glad it helped! Ours is parked for the winter and we all miss it when it gets put away. But spring is coming!! Thank you for your kind comments :)

[@perfect1150]

Awesome video! Thank you so much for taking the time to do this! Our family (My wife and four kids) have always just "roughed" it and slept in an actual tent, but I decided it's finally time to upgrade (hoping I could get my wife to agree to go more often) so I'm a first time buyer and just purchased the 2021 model of the same trailer. We always camp where it could be in the 70's during the day but still in the low 40's or 30's in July (it's even snowed on us as late as July 24th). On our walk through when picking up the trailer it was nice to know some of the things about the trailer I learned from watching your video. When you go to winterize your trailer or any other maintenance you do on the water systems, hot water heater, appliances, what you do to prepare for a camping trip etc. if you'd be willing to film that and show what and how you do it I would greatly appreciate it. What other hacks or things do you do to maximize storage? How often do you use the mattress warmers? How long can we expect the batteries to last running mattress warmers, lights, heating pad for your son etc? I apologize for all the questions but I've never owned a trailer before now. Again, thank you so much for filming this video and sharing it. I can't even begin to tell you how much I appreciate it.

[@sstressfl]

Hope you're enjoying your camper! Congratulations :) On the winterizing... water is the biggest concern! There is a low point drain underneath. That gets 98% of the water. However, the water filter that is under one of the dining seats does not drain! You need to remove it and dump it or it will freeze and break. Also, the water hose that you can use to spray water like a garden hose? It has the twist end on it... anyway, it will trap water inside if you disconnect the hose after you shut off the water. You need to turn off the water and them open the spray hose nozzle and let the water drain out of it otherwise it will stay trapped inside the 6" long pvc pipe that extends from the camper, freeze in winter temps, and break it! Those are the only two areas I know of that you need to specifically drain (other than the drain valve under the camper). For storage we bought a waterproof box to put on the front of the camper and we get just utilize all the space we can... seems to change each time :) We use the mattress warmers anytime it gets chilly. They are awesome. But only when the camper is plugged in. The battery won't last long powering the fridge or the warmers. Its meant primarily for lights. When we camp we only camp at places that have power and water. Hope that helps! I'm so very excited for you and your family! Don't be surprised if you have to fix some things. Popups are delicate and need fixing sometimes. My best :)

[@sstressfl]

perfect1150 thank you my friend 🙏 wow that is some serious heat! My wife and I have found that if you put a few bottled waters in the fridge and run it on electricity, go to bed, the next day it will be cold. It’s an energy conserving fridge. It takes a while to get cold but it also stays cold for quite awhile even when it gets unplugged. Enjoy yard camping!! Hope you can get out soon but it’s a great way to test all your systems first. Oh and you should consider putting a switch on your winch so you can kill power to it when it’s not in use 👍 Praying for you and your family. May you have great adventures and forge many precious memories throughout the coming years 🙏🤗

[@sstressfl]

perfect1150 Thats very nice to say my friend. And thank you for the prayers. The Lord Jesus is so good, He is the source of my hope and joy in this life ❤️🙏 We don’t get much hotter than 90 here in VT and that’s not often! But even in those temps the fridge gets very cold on hot days but it takes hours for it to get cold. It’s a weird thing. As for the electric winch, the tech suggested putting an on/off switch on the positive battery cable that leads directly from the battery to the winch. That way you can turn it off when not in use so it can’t randomly raise the roof on its own like mine did. Apparently it’s a common upgrade for safety. Like this one! Battery Switch, 6V 12V 24V 48V Battery Disconnect Master Cutoff Switch for Marine Boat RV ATV UTV Vehicles, Waterproof Heavy Duty Battery Isolator Switch (On/Off) www.amazon.com/dp/B07HT19T5V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9nqqFbC3MC429 I converted mine to a manual winch but if I ever go back to electric this is exactly how I would wire it 👍 Happy Saturday! Enjoy your weekend and let me know how things are going 🤗

[@aerickson1210]

Just bought a used 2019 2280BHESP. Enjoyed your video and learned a lot of information; You are entertaining.

[@sstressfl]

Thank you so much! And congratulations!!

[@tikishark1]

Thank you for the pointers and honest review. My wife and I just picked up a 2021 version of the 206STSE, and for the most part, many of the items you experienced on your model were not present. However, I did look below the undercarriage and noticed how poorly the wiring had been organized. I plan to take your advice and place some flexible conduit around those wires as well as reorganized the front area near out battery and propane tanks. Other than that, I feel we were fortunate as everything else looked exceptionally well built. However, I'm sure once we get it on the road, we're sure to find more quirks.

[@sstressfl]

So happy you found a really nice camper. I saw a comment from a person who worked in the RV business and he described popups as delicate. I think thats an accurate description. And as long as you understand that these things are not bulletproof - they are designed to be light with simple mechanisms - you won't be shocked when or if something fails. Maintenance is key to long camper life and many many great memories! Enjoy your camping trips! Excited for your and yours!

[@joesoeka7758]

Thank you so much for this video. We're buying our first pop up camper, and we're going with a 2018 2280BHESP. These videos have made me prepared for some mods and repairs, (seems pretty unavoidable). Can't wait to make memories with my two young sons. Seems like even with all the headaches this model has presented, y'all still seem to be enjoying it.

[@sstressfl]

We like even better now 😎 no more leaks! It’s still fun. And we like the great gas mileage we get compared to towing a tall hard side. I’m m excited for you and your family. Prayers for many wonderful precious memories together 🙏

[@texasbluetick]

The bed lock feature!!! I just got mine yesterday and was like what’s up with the beds not locking. Great video! Ty

[@charlesfrymire3056]

This is like "This Old House" but for pop up campers. Great work!

[@sstressfl]

That’s a huge compliment! 🙏 thank you so much!

[@andycormier2475]

That bike rack, shower, and front cage would make this the perfect camper for mountain bike trips TO Vermont! Thanks for showing me my "Level 2" camper goal :)

[@sstressfl]

Andy Cormier and the giant tires make it tow soooo much smoother compared to my old 97 Starcraft. Better on the dirt roads :)

[@Miggy311]

Great job on the video. We bought our new 2280 with the cargo area and also found a few things wrong with it. Our dealer fixed them right away. We are very happy with our unit. May you enjoy yours with your family for many many years.

[@sstressfl]

Miguel Zavala it’s such a great camper. Hope you and yours enjoy many years of camping as well. Thank you for taking the time to share your great news with me 🙏

[@MS-es9hm]

thanks for the review - more work setting one of those up than i realized. Dealership should be thankful you are such a nice guy - they tried to get one over on you definitely. Bless you and your family!

[@sstressfl]

Thank you 🙏 Bless you and yours as well.

[@aprilblizzard2247]

I would have taken it back! They would have given me another new one! I thought the same thing! What a nice guy you are!!!

[@christophersustayta5974]

My first trailer Mike was given to me a 1974 JAYCO it was 27’ fully extended it was a great start I had it painted and new canvas then I graduated and gave it to my brother.

[@joshuacurtis2655]

Great video. I’ve had a 2016 Rockwood 1940ltd for the past 4 years and just ordered a 2021 Rockwood 2280BHESP. Great review, thanks for posting this! It may have been mentioned but if you unzip the awning and pull it out before you popup the camper it makes it a ton easier.

[@sstressfl]

That's so very awesome! Congrats on the new camper :) And yes many have mentioned setting up before raising the top. We have done it both ways and find waiting to open it works better for us. We keep a small step ladder nearby for easy access. Enjoy that new smell! Thank you for your kind words my friend!

[@tiffanykolinski286]

I feel the same way that people don’t add their personal reviews of these types of campers. It’s all from sales people. Thank you for your honest review and sharing it. I hope more people do that. We are interested in purchasing one.

[@sstressfl]

We have made incredible memories together with this camper. It has been worth it. But be aware, I have had issues to overcome. I have documented them in this playlist. kzbin.info/aero/PLB7a9_qObrLj6oL-cEYQFa0bteMk6ZfEV

[@wingmanhoy3999]

My wife and I are interested in this and have been talking about buying a pop up camper and just by chance came up on you tube your video here, Thank You for putting this video together, very much great info, all the very best.

[@sstressfl]

We have so much fun with this thing. Popups allow for better towing mileage. You can use a lighter tow vehicle (like a minivan or SUV). And it feels more like camping when you're out there in the woods. BUT.... owning a popup, or any camper, comes with a lot of maintenance. And this one has come with a lot of repairs. And as I've learned build quality is very poor in the entire industry. Here's a playlist of the things I've had to work thru with this new camper. I hope it helps on your decision! Great to see your text Marc! kzbin.info/aero/PLB7a9_qObrLj6oL-cEYQFa0bteMk6ZfEV

[@themarylandweekendwarrior8269]

Got the 2018 model as well. Love it! One trick about the awning is to pull it out and start the set up before you raise the roof. But great video. Like you I was doing my research and only found the dealers doing their video. Lift is REALY loud LOL.

[@sstressfl]

The Maryland Weekend Warrior congrats :) it’s is such a fun camper! I still find myself occasionally having to open or close the awning after it’s opened and we’re all setup but we have a short stair ladder that makes it easy. Thanks for your kind comments 🤗🙏 can’t wait until Spring 😎

[@themarylandweekendwarrior8269]

Michael Byrne Amen on the step latter. I did get a small step ladder too to be honest LOL. In the few trips I took this year, I only set up the awning once only because it seems that I camped at areas where I didn’t really need it. Also I got a a camp chef 2 burner stove and swapped out the hose to a quick connect to the gas on the trailer. Not even using the grill that the trailer came with. Enjoy it! Looking forward to future videos.

[@sstressfl]

@@themarylandweekendwarrior8269 Ha! Too funny! We did similar. My wife is using a portable coleman roadtrip grill but she's still using the propane canisters (the quick connect is a great idea!). We have used the grill the trailer came with and it actually works pretty well! We tend to avoid the inside stove top unless its raining and its necessary.

[@sharonsanders8208]

Never thought about the roof rack for the bikes looks like a lot of fun nice camper

[@sstressfl]

It’s a great camper! I’ve had to do some repairs but once I was done, we’ve been very happy with it :) here’s the full playlist showing the repairs I’ve done PopUp Camper kzbin.info/aero/PLB7a9_qObrLj6oL-cEYQFa0bteMk6ZfEV

[@johnf150beard7]

Great vid! I own a Rockwood HW277, if you think your camper is tall, you should check out the Highwall ! lol We also use a step ladder for set up... Here’s a tip you may find useful. We set up our awning first before raising the roof (only extending the ground poles half way until the roof is fully raised) and we lower the ground poles and then lower the roof, and roll up the awning afterward... of course that doesn’t solve the problem of having to roll it up during inclement weather while the roof is up, but it does make setting up and taking down easier.

[@sstressfl]

John F150Beard thank you so much! I did experiment with setting it up first but it always ended up getting in the way so I have adopted a 3 step ladder as well :) it works for me and I keep the ladder nearby in case I need to roll it back up. Hope you’re having a great camping season! Thank you for your feedback and thoughtful tip!

[@htownsfinest87]

Normally dont like videos but man, you earned a thumbs up. I love the commentary while opening it all up and all the pictures of wiring, under coating... everything and man that lift motor is ridiculously loud. Ive been on the edge of just completely rebuilding an older vs new. Only makes since if you can buy a sub 5k dollar camper and putting 15-20k into it and having just the ultimate setup. Well with just a double queen size camper, not tje crazy new triple pullout pop ups they have. You showed the underside and it looked like particle board or some compressed type board for the floor, is that the case there?

[@sstressfl]

htownsfinest87 thank you for the kind words 🙏 I think rebuilding/restoring is very rewarding. For me it came down to facilities and time - so I went new. I paid for the convenience. And yes the floor is made up of a bonded wood of some kind. Has undercoating on it. When I first walked inside, I noticed the floor was very solid compared to our 1997 model. He said the old models are like trampolines. But they use thicker heavier wood in the new. It adds weight but provides a better feel and much needed strength. We shall see how it performs over the years 👍 Hope you find what your looking for! Glad I could help in some way.

[@MatthewWheeler13]

Really nice review. I always find it amazing how much you have to fix on a new popup. I lucked into a 1 year old pre-owned Forrest River so most stuff was fixed. RE: Jacking it up - a regular car jack will fit under the axle to raise the tire, then you don't have to deal with the suspension play as well.

[@sstressfl]

Matthew Wheeler the manual said not to so I thought maybe it was too weak? But seems like you could place it right under the axle mounting points behind the wheel and it would be ok. Is this what you do?

[@MatthewWheeler13]

@@sstressfl Exactly. I haven't had a flat - yet - but I do that when I service the bearings.

[@sstressfl]

Matthew Wheeler thanks so much! So glad to hear your camper is in good shape. They are delicate but if you keep on it and maintain them they can last for many years 👍 Enjoy!

[@aspenessis]

Great Video !!! Thanks very much !!! My old scamper pop up has roof problems. I like this Rockwood, but fear anything made by Forest River. Thanks for the tips !!

[@chuckshade7959]

Awesome , we love our 2018 rockwood 2516g ,we also traded up from a 1996 starcraft , took a peek at hardsides but couldn't justify the price or bang for buck ,our popup is so much bigger than any hardside in that size range plus we can use a much smaller tow rig and it stores inside the garage to .we always liked the canvas or tent feel and not the hardside aka house on wheels feel . We are mostly outside anyway .

[@sstressfl]

Chuck Shade I agree with all of that 👌 And also being able to zip the walls down. It’s like being outside! One of the best naps I’ve ever had was laying in the bed with the breeze blowing across me. I really enjoy the popup experience as well. Thanks for sharing your thoughts my friend 🙏

[@falconhead2862]

Great real world review video, it was exactly the type of video I look for. First time on your channel, very honest open conversational format. Definitely think manufacture should address the issues you've encountered, especially the axle. Looking forward seeing the upgrades and additional work you do.

[@thomashall8192]

This a great review! You are very thorough and honest with your assessment. Your camera work is effective and entertaining. Thanks for taking the time to make this.

[@sstressfl]

Thomas Hall thank you for your kind words and your feedback, my friend. I’m glad it helped 🙏

[@akwadesign1]

Best REVIEW ever for pop up campers - I don't mind it's long as long as there is full detail. Love the video and this will help a lot of people even after 5 years if not longer

[@sstressfl]

Thank you 🙏

[@kevinwalmsley1685]

Very helpful, thanks! So nice to have a user review since we live in Hawaii and can't easily go check out at a dealer. Aloha!

[@sstressfl]

Thank you so much 🙏 after this video I’ve had some issues with it and made some additional videos. I put them in a playlist if you’re interested. Aloha ❤️🤗 PopUp Camper kzbin.info/aero/PLB7a9_qObrLj6oL-cEYQFa0bteMk6ZfEV

[@davidfromtexas9681]

Great video! We started off in a 2006 Jayco 806 Pop-Up and loved it. Enjoy the memories with the family sir! I'd bet the farm you could put another bike on that rack.

[@sstressfl]

Thank you! And yes I'm sure we could, but I also have a rack on the van that gets loaded up so I spread it around. Thank for your comment! My best to you and yours!

[@laurenjensen8027]

Great video!! I saw another video regarding the awning, they pulled it out and set the poles up before extending it up all the way, this way us short people don't necessarily need a ladder 😊👍

[@sstressfl]

We did that a few times but found taking it out before we were ready caused the awning to be in the way. And a more than once we made contact with the door... by accident... and almost tore a hole thru it. I plan to round off the top edge corner of the door, but for now we wait until we're all set up before taking it out.

[@laurenjensen8027]

@@sstressfl good to know, thanks so much for your reply!

[@stevec2665]

Hello fellow Vermonter. Watching you set that up makes me feel so lucky that I pull in with my truck camper , put the stairs down and I'm done. LOL Of course I don't have the family size you do.

[@sstressfl]

Steve C I hear ya my friend lol it is a process but yes it is perfect for our family right now. My wife says when we retire we’re getting a hard side, haha! Thanks for stopping by. Stay healthy 🙏👍

[@mozberg2191]

so glad I bought a used 2007 Fleetwood, it looks like it's made 1000% better than new ones

[@sstressfl]

Or the previous owner has been through it 😁 Glad you have a good one! I hope mine will be solid after this 🙏

[@jlptneou]

Thank you for the honest review of the good and the bad. Felt like talking to a friend about his new camper - key for those of us thinking about jumping in. Looking forward to watching more of your videos!

[@sstressfl]

I have been working on this popup since we bought it, but... evenso... we have had SO much fun together as a family. Great memories. Great times. Looking forward to a happy 2021 camping season. Thank you for the feedback, my friend.

[@JarheadSixRides]

Wow honesty that is sad you had to do so much. Looks great, thanks for sharing.

[@sstressfl]

Thanks 🙏 and the work continues. But we continue to make great memories as a family with this thing 🤗

[@JarheadSixRides]

@@sstressfl Definitely, I am looking to purchase one in the near future. God bless friend!

[@sstressfl]

@@JarheadSixRides God bless you as well 🙏✌️

[@loatlanta]

Fantastic Video! I've sold me now on getting a FR Rockwood - knowing that there are things that I need to watch out for. Thanks for sharing.

[@sstressfl]

Yao Lo Thank you 🙏 Happy shopping and enjoy 😎✌️

[@patrickganske2489]

Love our 2017 2280BHESP. It been very trouble free for the past three years and nothing but great memories. However, I can certainly see that these are rush built. Inspite of that, everything I've come across are minor issues or improvements and they are on my to-do list. Very happy with it and I'd certainly buy another. It tows easily behind my Nissan Frontier and it's high body lets us get into those tough backwoods places where a regular tent trailer could not go. Thanks for the great and informative review Michael. I'll be making a lot of the improvements that you have.

[@sstressfl]

We continue to make incredible precious memories in ours. I’ve had to do some repairs. And just today I received my new manual winch from goshen. And I have rv sealant/caulk and butyl tape ready to go as soon as the weather is nice. I’m going to re-seal all of the roof and side hardware. Minor leaks from sloppy assembly have started to show up. But once I’m done it’ll be very sealed and I’ll sleep better 👍 Thank you for your feedback. And enjoy your camping season! 🙏

[@patrickganske2489]

@@sstressfl Like you, I'm planing on recaulking. Also plan on change out the unsightly scissor jacks with some swing downs and am researching a tankless water heater - no more annodes to mess with! Cheers.. PG

[@sstressfl]

@@patrickganske2489 sounds great 👍

[@jimmiemacd3603]

Might want to look into upgrading your tow vehicle. The rock wood fully loaded gvr is at 3800 pounds. A dodge caravan towing capacity is right at 3600 pounds. To with 3 kids two adults and all their gear, you’re probably right at it or past the gvr on your van.

[@sstressfl]

Jimmie MacD this is true! This thing is at its limit! I had one scary transmission wonky shift-hunting when we towed in the white mountains. Added the transmission cooler and have not had a problem since. I just bought a load leveling trailer hitch. We’ll see how that helps out 👍🙏

[@zanarouse]

Love your vids, no music like others, explaining is not too fast, not too slow. Steady wins the race, I subscribed....I have a 2001 Rockwood Freedom. I watched your video on the leaks you had. That video gave me the confidence to reseal my trim and sides too.

[@sstressfl]

Thank you so much 🙏 Encouraging words. I have used music in some of the scenery parts of my motorcycle vids but I usually don’t with projects or reviews. Im glad the video helped! Thanks again for the feedback. Praying your repairs are rewarding.

[@massinspace]

Thanks so much for this great review. I really appreciate the good bad and the ugly without just walking through and amenity dropping like “these are curtains, this is storage, here we have some lights”. I’m in the market for a towable that sleeps 5 also and this was a refreshing overview.

[@sstressfl]

Richard Cerda thank you so much 🙏 I’m glad to hear that you enjoyed it 🤗

[@philobeddoe4753]

I have a 2009 forest river flagstaff. I think it uses this goshen system as well. This video should prove a big help if so. Thanks.

[@dawg7915]

I took out all the screws and shot Pop rivets in all the holes for that travel door.. Unzip the awning first and set it up.. then raise the top

[@sstressfl]

We tried opening the awning first and it got in the way. We found it easier to wait :)

[@perfect1150]

I have to thank you again for making this video. I finally had the opportunity to take my 2208BHESP out for a 10 day excursion through Oregon and Washington and the information I got from your video was invaluable. We spent 7 days with hookups and 3 without. Biggest issue we have is storage. We had 6 people, that for the most part, slept comfortably in this tent trailer in anywhere between 50 and 80 degrees (was really hot last night) with no issues. Most days with power and water hookups and some without. It was a phenomenal trip that we will do again. Two questions....with the camp shower do you just let the water run out or do you try and collect it and how long do the batteries last when not hooked up to power? Thank you again for making this video....it definitely helped me make our trip successful and I can't thank you enough.

[@sstressfl]

Congratulations on your new 2280bhesp! Sounds like a great camping experience in beautiful locations. In regards to the camp shower, some locations do not allow run off / grey water of any kind. I think most state parks? But also there is some kind of shower soap that is supposed to be safer for ground run off. But everyone stays away from rivers and lakes with run off/grey water. I have read in places where grey water must be 100% collected people use a kids swimming pool underneath their shower (inflatable might be easier to transport?) then dump it into a grey water collection tank. Our battery does not last long especially if we're spinning fans to stay cool. Maybe a day at best? But we have only been off-grid once for two days. It was brutal lol :) We also bought a 8000 btu portable AC and some heat reflecting blankets from walmart to cover the canvas over the beds on hot days. We sleep and hang out in a 70 degree popup even on the hottest days. Thank you for sharing your camping success with me! So excited for you and your family. Such great memories together. Keep your eye on that electric winch! Mine tried to kill my camper all on its own. I removed it and replaced it with a quiet and wonderful manual winch from Goshen. And also, my roof had leaks. I had to reseal it. My channel has numerous videos that might give you some insight into vulnerabilities. Things to keep your eyes on! God bless you and your family. Enjoy :)

[@stuntcardriver]

I am looking at a 2019 model tomorrow. We rented a 10 foot model last summer and liked it and figured the 12 foot would offer more space.

[@sstressfl]

It makes a big difference especially if you have a good sized family. We have 5! Great space for us.

[@loth3738]

Keep in mind in the new water heater to check the anode rod once a year! :) It'll save you from replacing the unit early.

[@sstressfl]

Tyler Wilson oh man thank you so much 🙏I’m about to pull the popup out of its portable garage and set it up in the yard. Perfect timing! I’ll add it to my to-do list 👍

[@loth3738]

@@sstressfl Nice! I've been doing a lot of research on WH's and knew you diddnt have one before so I figured I'd mention it :). Maybe an opportunity for 1 year retrospective video?

[@sstressfl]

Tyler Wilson yes yes! 1 year review with the 2280 👍 really hopeful we get to go do some camping this summer! You have plans yet?

[@loth3738]

@@sstressfl Yep as soon as this stuff is over I'm hoping to take at least one of my parents up north to help them de-stress since they are at the at-risk age. I've been trying to keep busy at home with improvements however; wash/scrub with rough pad - done replace ext plastic fixtures - done remove old lap sealant - done add new dicor lap sealant - done install new fantastic fan/vent - done replaced all 3 tires - done repacked all bearings - done tape roof with eternabond - progress remove old vinyl stickers - done paint with elstomeric paint replace ext lights with led brush off rust on frame - progress repaint frame clean canvas polish vinyl shade lube bed rails wire loom underside wiring replace int lights with led - progress replace all water hoses replace sink with stainless replace sink fixture with standard add DC water pump and accumulator tank replace flooring add DIY awning

[@ilmmoody]

Fantastic review! I’ve been looking for an unbiased review on these trailers. Thank you so much for posting!

[@sstressfl]

Thank you for the feedback :)

[@axiashi7892]

Many thanks, Michael! We really enjoyed the video review. We were researching for months and were lucky to find a new-to-us 2017 1970 ESP (which i believe it was what you originally bought). We are very excited and have used the stay at home order to prepare it for when we can take it out for its maiden camping trip. You mentioned that you got a special bottle.jack due to the height of the frame. Would you mind sharing the info? Thanks again!!!

[@sstressfl]

Congratulations on your new-to-you popup!!! That’s so cool :) I think our first one was a 1910 but very similar! I’m so excited for you and your family 🙏❤️ The bottle Jack is a husky from Home Depot. Also, keep some thick boards with you to put under it. It’s a high camper 🤗 but it’s so cool 😎 Enjoy!!

[@axiashi7892]

@@sstressfl thank you!!

[@slvrblt5596]

This is great. We are looking at getting a new 2318ESP next February and this is an awesome precursor to some of what I can expect. Thanks!

[@sstressfl]

I have a playlist... some issues showed up along the way. Things to look out for! :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/mni4mmWDgKiFipY

[@melissae.9842]

Love your Tigers gear! I am a Tigers fan from Michigan. Thanks for this video!

[@sstressfl]

No matter where I live, Detroit will always be my team 💪😎 Thanks for reaching out! 🙏

[@saoberg]

Thanks Michael! I've been researching whether to buy one of these similar Forest River models. I almost bought a used one a few months ago. It was great to hear your perspectives w.r.t. new vs. old, defects, maintenance, family fit, etc.

[@sstressfl]

Thank you Scott for your feedback and your gift! I'm so glad the video was a help. I have a playlist of more videos including a pretty major roof fix. Take a look if you want to see more about my on-going ownership experience. Thanks again! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mILHgX6JoKt5f9U

[@mrsambrosesclassroom]

Thanks so much! We just bought a 2021 version. Very helpful and informative!

[@sstressfl]

mrsambrosesclassroom hey congrats!!! I know you’ll enjoy it. Thank you for sharing with me 🙏👍 Have fun!

[@skezicks6447]

I'd love a bit more content about how you did all the repair work. My wife and I hopped headfirst into a 2018, only to realize so many of the same things, but I really am not sure where to start. we camped in it last year, and most of my time out camping was trying to make sure we made it home. It's made me a bit scared to take it out again.

[@sstressfl]

I have a Popup playlist filled with repair videos on this camper. I hope you can find something thats helpful! kzbin.info/aero/PLB7a9_qObrLj6oL-cEYQFa0bteMk6ZfEV

[@dwightcolemanjr.2314]

BEST REVIEW I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!! Great job!!!!

[@sstressfl]

Dwight Coleman, Jr. wow thank you so much!!!! 🤗😄🙏

[@navajasrs2402]

This is great information, thanks SO much for taking the time. Say “hi” to Les Stroud at your next family reunion. I’ve been a big fan for years.

[@sstressfl]

navajas rs Ha :) I will let my brother know you said hi 👋 thanks for watching 😁🙏

[@jamsomito]

Hi Michael - fantastic review, thanks for posting. Question - how's the storage underneath the gaucho/couch? Is there any room or is it all taken up by the bed/couch conversion mechanism?

[@sstressfl]

Its all wide open storage :) The bed mechanism is a simple slider and it takes up none of the space below. And thank you for your kind feedback!

[@pono1978]

I think I’ve been in this coach at the fairgrounds, haha. It was a very good review, thank you.

[@sstressfl]

pono1978 hilarious 😆👍

[@SeaOfLuv]

Yes, this is very helpful. Thank you for posting this.

[@BeckyChristensen_OneAndOnly]

Great review, nice pop up! I have a 1946 Higgins I am restoring, NOT gonna have much if any of the amenities such as this! With all the things you needed to fix / repair I sure hope you got if for a really good deal $$ !! We had a 1970 pop up for our family with 5 kids!

[@sstressfl]

The Higgins is pretty remarkable :) I was just watching this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2GwnIRmn9yeaq8 We've had amazing camping trips together (We have 3 kids! 5 is awesome!) And no matter what I paid, I paid too much for this thing lol. Live and learn :)

[@christianwolfe9282]

There should be more owners like you making videos like this, great video and especially great job on tidying things up your way. Now I know what to look for when shopping for one. The Rockwood ESPs are beasts! One of the most nicer tent trailers out on the market in my opinion! Cheers! Just a side note, for the awning, I used to unroll it when my trailer was halfway up, set up half poles then complete when top was fully up..

[@sstressfl]

Thank you!! Sorry I missed your comment. I just saw it :) I have had my share of issues with the build quality and have made additional videos. This spring I will be removing all of the hardware from the roof to re-caulk and seal it properly. But we enjoy it so much! Thanks for your feedback my friend :)

[@davistobia1425]

Great review but you said this was a new pop up... you should have had a better look at it on the lot. The rust and bent door you should have seen. In any case great review and thanks for letting me know what to look for.

[@sstressfl]

I know that now! I thought I was buying a new camper :) So glad it was a help to you! Thanks for your feedback!

[@yolandathompson4930]

I am interested in purchasing a pop up camper and this video gave great insight. Thanks

[@sstressfl]

So glad it helped!

[@brittanymcdonaldbarr1106]

Fantastic review. Thanks for your honest feedback.

[@sstressfl]

Thank you 🙏

[@robertcolquhoun1468]

Great video gives me a lot to look out for we have a new one on order it’s a 2021Viking 1706XLS much smaller and different model but they are all roughly the same but your right there is so few videos of owners we there new trailers so it’s good to know what I can expect when I receive ours and what I need to do I’ve seen a few tips that I definitely going to like painting the under side

[@sstressfl]

Robert Colquhoun i just googled your Viking. It looks great and I know you’ll enjoy it! Thank you for sharing my friend 🙏

[@sergeserge320]

Great vidéo. I like the forest river pop up camper and one you have is the best one

[@oldmillrd8153]

If that is the best forest river has to offer no thanks. I bought a Chalet hard sided popup that is extremely well made with no problems right from the factory. There are builders out there that take pride in their product; unfortunately forest river is not one of them.

[@CroakerOutdoors]

10:55 Just be careful when walking around inside without the stabilizer jacks out. I've seen these things "see-saw" right up!

[@sstressfl]

Croaker Outdoors thank you!! I’ll make that a priority for now on!

[@wesrains9605]

Great and very informative video. Was looking to buy a similar model used and this video was very helpful in my pulling the trigger. Watched it couple more times since to figure out how to use few things. Thanks for putting this together and look forward to new videos. Especially one on nifty trick on how to quiet the lift winch.

[@sstressfl]

Thank you!! Our electric winch ended up turning itself on and broke itself. I converted to a manual! Here's the video on that! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKeuo4J3rdOlf5Y

[@MRCRUZER19]

great and informative video, Enjoy the new pop up!!!!

[@sstressfl]

Thank you!

[@rosaurobucu4551]

Nice video. And ur a great father. Gotta aim at becoming like u.

[@sstressfl]

Rosauro Bucu that’s a very kind thing to say. Thank you for the encouragement 🙏

[@kriscarrasco3316]

Great video. Thinking about getting a pop up. Thanks for all that info.

[@sstressfl]

You're welcome! Thank you for you comment. So glad it helped.

[@loth3738]

I think you are supposed to unzip the awning and half-deploy it before you raise the roof all the way, so shorter folks can still deploy it. :)

[@sstressfl]

Tyler Wilson I have done that before.... seems like a good method but every time we have taken the awning out during setup we have put a surface cut Into the half deployed awning with the door. We’ve just decided it’s safer and easier to use a little step ladder to deploy and put it away... best for us to keep it out of the way until we’re all set up. That’s our method I’m sure more responsible folks can figure out a better way 👍😀

[@FSULAUBACH]

idk I have a 2006 starcraft and like what you have is nice and all. Just not enough to justify the cost I paid, versus the cost of a new pop up. Like they are practically the same thing.

[@sstressfl]

Agreed. It doesn’t pay to buy new.

[@850OVERLAND]

Dude thank you so much for posting this!

[@850OVERLAND]

Subscribed as well!

[@sstressfl]

So glad it was helpful! Thanks for the subscribe 🙏🤗

[@crystalmorales5859]

fantastic review.... I think you just talked me OUT of getting a 2021. Seeing that particle board on the bottom is so disappointing. I'm not sure it could withstand the offroading we do to get to the dispersed camping spots we find.

[@sstressfl]

It's not so much that its built to be abused... it's built up very high so you can slowly access more remote areas where other popups would bottom out.

[@GravesoftheInnocent]

Great video. I’m getting ready to go look at this particular model now which of course is used since it is now 2021. Lol. I’ve been looking for something I could pull with my Jeep Wrangler though that will accommodate my wife, son & dog. This looks like it might be the one.

[@sstressfl]

I’ve had to do some camper fixes but we truly enjoy it. I added a trans cooler to the van and it made a huge difference especially in the mountain areas. Also a weight distribution hitch is critical to getting the ride level and safe. Enjoy!!

[@GetOutBeHappy]

Very through and insightful review. Great information on what to look out for with a new unit.

[@liams.1684]

Very nice video thank you Make more videos like this one still learning b4 I get first pop up

[@sstressfl]

Sargeant Liam summer camping season is on its way! I hope to have more to share in the coming months 👍🙏 thanks for your kind words!

[@liams.1684]

@@sstressfl much love brother

[@jeremybrews2521]

Great video. Thanks you sharing all the great info.

[@sstressfl]

Jeremy Lincoln thank you!

[@thudang3039]

Great insights, and thanks for making the video. Seems like it's more about being aware of what you're getting into - sales is typically going to push the benefits and "lifestyle" of a pop up, maybe over one that you don't need to do as much "set up"... Cost/value wise - would you say this is still the best option for your family? For ours, that's usually where my justification comes in. Re: your comment on the roof, not sure if you've looked into possible options to reinforce/strengthen, but especially if it's a fibreglass roof - look into epoxy + fibreglass DIY videos. I've seen a few, and they can make a huge impact on strength, rigidity and durability. The cost/effort may be worthwhile? (Depends on your situation of course) Love the insights on the additional work you did - like the wiring, as well as rust and what you dealt with. Suggests to me maybe to buy one of these things from areas that don't salt their roads, or at least, do a thorough check of the underside before buying. Was initially looking at teardrop trailers, but the additional space one gets from these could be totally worth it for the right price and some DIY upgrades.

[@sstressfl]

You might not have seen the video before this one... we actually bought a different one and it broke when we got it home. They immediately worked to fix it but did not have any inventory. The one we have now is the one they had on the lot. It was much bigger than the original purchase. However, it was the same size as our old one and fit our family sooo much better. We threw a little extra cash on top of the pile to make up the difference and we paid far less than retail. It was sold as new. But it wasn't in like-new condition. I agree that sales and buyers are focused on two diff things. It's true when you don't swim in the world of RVs, you are at a serious disadvantage and the sales folks rely on your "starry eyed" blindness. I just read a story about a guy who bought a used popup at a dealership and when he went to pick it up he did NOT do a thorough walk through because he saw all the pics online, was excited to close the deal and wanted to get it home. He said that during the walk around, the sales guy would not lower the camper because there weren't any techs available. So they went into the office and signed the papers. With the deal closed, the camper all connected to his tow vehicle, he drove it home happy as can be. Once home, he opened it and went inside and finally could see that there was a giant dent on the inside of the roof... when he inspected the outside roof, he found a large gash made by perhaps, a falling tree limb. When you read about it, you think "how could he miss that!??" but if you look back and pay attention, you'll see the gentle steering being used by sales (auto dealers are the same). It really is on you to inspect everything closely. And even then you will probably miss something. For example, how can you know your trailer is straight until you tow it? In regards to value for our family, it was the best option that met all of our needs at the time. It still is. Especially since we're towing with a minivan with a 3500 lb tow rating. On flat ground I get 19-20 mpg. In the New England mountains I see it drop to an average of 16. The size. The color. The fact that its tucked low out of the wind when towing makes it sooo easy to pull around. My favorite thing though? When we're camping and before my wife and I close our eyes and I see our 3 kids tucked in and sleeping in their beds. Fills me with joy. And I wonder what memories they'll have, like memories I have of my childhood that seem larger than life itself, from all of these days together, camping, playing, exploring. I have no regrets. I will fix what needs fixing (I continue to do so!) and as the Lord wills, we will continue to camp in our 2280 :) I hope you find the right camper for your needs! I personally don't enjoy the purchase process, but the after is rewarding. Thank you for your thoughts my friend! Happy hunting!

[@battlebob]

Heating pads. wouldn't have thought of that. Ive got and old starcraft.

[@gwilli1754]

They should be paying you to get their RVs ready, not the other way around!!! Strong work, though.

[@sstressfl]

I was very excited about this camper. But afterward the whole process and the number of problems I endured was not what I expected.

[@ian1957ruth]

Hi I have just come across your review. I have a couple of questions and an admission. first the questions. Why did you accept the delivery of the pop-up with that condition underneath? Also, you mention using a weight-distribution hitch. I did have an older Viking popup and was told by the manufacturer to not use a weight-distribution hitch. Now my admission. I have in the past bought two used pop-ups. Both have been neither use nor ornament. So what do I know? ;-)

[@sstressfl]

I didnt know the bottom was so bad until I got it home and had time to go through it. BUT, I have a long history restoring stuff and I could tell it was surface level. Disgusting and disappointing, but mostly surface damage. I had to balance the time it would take for me to fix it vs the time to re-engage with those guys and find a new camper. I decided to fix it/seal it and go camping with my family. And yes I do understand when NOT to use a distribution hitch.... its a bit iffy to use one on a lightweight smaller c-frame camper. But the 2280bhesp has a HUGE boxed frame. It is thick. Strong. Meant for heavy loads. I appreciate your transparency :) Thanks for your comments my friend!!

[@dgriffin6074]

The reason so many RV's and campers come from the factory with significant defects is because the manufacturers do not have the same liabilities as car companies. No " Lemon Laws" for RVs, AND you have to seek redress from the manufacturer of the individual component e g. fridge. Perhaps you should have purchased one in Arizona or California. I think you mean "C.O. detector ".

[@sstressfl]

Daryl Griffin good point! And yes I meant CO!

[@dankeller399]

Unfurl your awning before you raise the roof. Much easier.

[@sstressfl]

I did try that and settled on the other way. It's best to have that awning out of the way until you're all set up. We have the minor damage to prove it ;)

[@ViCIO001]

Outstanding ‘“ may I say .... your video helped out a lot ..thanks Mann..

[@sstressfl]

hernandezc398 awesome thank you 🙏

[@theotherjessica]

Very helpful and informative! Thanks for sharing!

[@sstressfl]

theotherjessica thank you 🙏

[@CapCityDC]

Great job and so right most "reviews" are salesmen really not telling you anything you can't get from the specs on the web or brochure. Would you be will to say what you paid or provide a rough# ? Thanks!

[@sstressfl]

CapCityDC thank you! We paid a few thousand less than msrp 👍

[@06wv]

That looks like a good size for our family of 5. Can I ask which sealed box is in the storage bed and what the bike racks are called on Amazon? Also- discouraging all the problems new campers have. I hear that to often not to be true. Maybe I should go used first and learn maintenance more before thinking about new

[@sstressfl]

Chris Cochrane And It’ll still be the right size even when these kiddos get huge! 😄 Heres the box: Plano 1919 Sportsman Trunk with Wheels, Black www.amazon.com/dp/B00HVCPT4W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Q-WDDbFKP4GQK And these are the racks I bought - the price has gone up a little. Swagman Upright Roof Mount Bike Rack www.amazon.com/dp/B000SL1AEG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7aXDDb2ARNQB4 I can tell you that after all of my repairs, I haven’t had any other issues. It’s been a joy for all of us. But if you find a used popup that has been loved, I think you’d be very happy too. And there are so many resources available to guide repairs, design, improvements, etc. Thanks for watching my friend!

[@sisteradventures7295]

Thanks for the video! Very informative!

[@sstressfl]

Natalie Marler thank you! I’m glad it was helpful 🙏

[@Whatintheblueblazes]

Excellent review!!

[@johngrzan9269]

Great review! could you have taken it back to the dealer under warranty to fix the manufacturing defects? I know all about the RV manufacturing industry. During the busy times of the year they hire anybody and everybody off the street to build all the RV's to meet their quota. No experience necessary.

[@sstressfl]

I could have but if they replace a plastic faucet with another plastic faucet, what good is it? Plus the work we did have them do took 2 months total to complete. It was time to go camping. Thank you for your feedback 🙏

[@SeaOfLuv]

Great video. Thank you!

[@jamesself435]

Great review! How is it holding up two years later?

[@sstressfl]

Thank you 🙏 I have documented my ownership experience in a series of videos. I keep updating it as I go along kzbin.info/aero/PLB7a9_qObrLj6oL-cEYQFa0bteMk6ZfEV

[@cavtj1]

So what was the name of the dealer you bought it from? I'd like to know so I can stay away from them. A lot of those issues (wires and salt) should have fixed by the dealer (IMO). I wonder how much you paid for "Prep"? Good thorough review sir!

[@sstressfl]

I remember when I walked out to see the camper the sales guy was spray painting the side of a frame rail. He said it was just a little fix. I didn’t pay attention until I got home. It was rust he covered up 😕 I was later told that they sell $100,000 rvs out of that place all day. Our little popup wasn’t very high on the priority list. But to us it was! Since then we’ve had friends buy their new (albeit more expensive hard side) campers at the same dealership and have had good experiences. And I agree. The prep was poor. The build quality from the factory’s was terrible, ie, I’m currently resealing the entire leaky roof due to poor butyl tape and caulk assembly. BUT we have made amazing memories in this thing and, Lord willing, I’m looking fwd to a great 2021 season. Our dealer was Country Camper in East Montpelier. Win some and lose some I guess?

[@2THXTRM]

Great video, I have a 2018, same model. Didn't get the toilet? My 2 and 5 year old love it, comes in handy at night too. Does the inverter work well? '18's didn't get that feature.

[@sstressfl]

2THXTRM thank you!! With our old camper we started using an outdoor two room shower tent for our porta-potty and changing room. We set it up right against the awning, off to the side. We voted against the potty because we felt storage and counter space was so critical for our family of 5 👍 We haven’t used the inverter yet. We’re always plugged in. It’s a great camper!!

[@cheneedc1]

Can you share where you got the bike racks? I believe you said Amazon. I have a Rockwood 2716 with the roof rack but I need the holders for the bikes.

[@sstressfl]

Definitely! The price seems to go up and down a little but this is them: Swagman Upright Roof Mount Bike Rack amzn.to/2KrdAxN

[@7mm08ts]

Awesome review! Thanks for sharing. We’re looking at buying one, just curious have you had it out in a lot of rain??.... is it completely water tight?, no leaks!!?? Thanks 🙏👍

[@sstressfl]

This summer while we were yard camping my son woke up to water dripping on his head. The vent fan started leaking. I removed it and fixed it with caulk that I had at the house. At the end of this season, I found wet wood at the front and back of the roof, clearly evidence that the seams are leaking. I plan to remove all bolt on roof items, clean, and recaulk with proper rv roof sealant, including re-doing my roof fan.