FINALLY!!!!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HONOST OPINION!! Finally some channel I can really trust.. Dude I'm subbed. Dude, that's the thing I was moaning all over the internet! You can hear it from the sound demos! They are overly bright, and a little bit bass bossted. I tried really hard to love them like you did. BUT IT JUST DOESNT WORK. I want something as flat as possible. I think I'm going to go with Yamaha HS8 or Genelecs. Genelecs are very expensive. I don't like to use the sub. I want them because I just want flat sound in my apparment, not for studio monitoring. Btw does anybody know what happened the SonicSenseProAudio channel in the Soundcloud channel? They were recorded most of the studio monitors but now I can't see any of them. I can only see their old KZbin comparisons. They were really, really helpfull. But I CAN'T FIND THEM and I'm about to make a desicion. Anyway thank you again. Also If you could recommend some monitors which have the flattest sound without needing a sub, it would be very useful. Thanks.
@exodusvelo4 жыл бұрын
I own yamaha hs7 for a few years, I´m tired of them, really tired; not just frequency response, but you get very tired of them very fast. Max after 10 minutes, you just need a break, you need to pause them. Maybe good for mastering even though they are tiring, but forget about them fore regular listening, spikes at 1-2-4k, roll of bass, bumped mid section... I think adam A5T are the way to go, with a sub, but i am not buying yamaha hs ever again.
@AliBekirKlckaya4 жыл бұрын
Exodus Velo I own Yamaha HS8 pair over a month now. Dude, these things are flat, only problem is my room. Just yesterday I listened Megatron Man album which is rather brightly mastered. 1st I enjoyed it, 2nd I only had little fatigue to be honest but I could switched to listen other things afterwards easily. And I just sit them very close at 1m although not ideal. I now, HS7s are juuuuust have a little bit more energy on the mids and highs, but I'm sure they are flatter then Adam A7X. Adam A7X's main advantage is that it can go lower. And don't trust me, just look at this video. Much respects. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmfFlmBof5eBbs0
@KarlGutowski4 жыл бұрын
Genelecs are good but you still need to calibrate them to fit your room acoustics. There's no such thing as a perfect monitor out of the box unless you get lucky. A7x have 3 calibration knobs on the back that let you tune the speaker for your room. SonicSense comparisons were fun, but they're like comparing 8k TVs by filming the screens with a 1080p camera in a room with colored lighting, and they even admit that at the end of every comparison. Many pro mix engineers use Adam, Genelec, Focal, BareFoot, ATC, even Kali, but none of the top pros use KRK or Yamaha HS series--it's not even the same sport.
@AliBekirKlckaya4 жыл бұрын
@@KarlGutowski I don't have knowledge on real experienced people's view on the monitors. And I don't have real life experience as well. I found a real great comparison, which is harder to find: (although it might be biased.) I recommend to everyone: www.pro-tools-expert.com/production-expert-1/2020/4/14/home-studio-speaker-shootout-for-audio-post-production-part-1 and it has part 2 as well. However, I am sure that there are more music has and is being made on Yamaha and KRK compared to others, and that was the other thing while I made my desicion. And on the other hand, seeing a high-boosted product like ADAM (except from their newest Digitally DSP'ed line up) is being praised by these so called "PROs" and everybody over and over again is really frightening. Yeah, they have way more potential once corrected, money does buy higher quality transducer. And about the SonicSense, they are comparing Apples to Apples. Although their recording and microphone might be really bad, I remember my first listening experience, without knowing anything about studio monitors, any brand. I still remember that I liked the Genelec and Yamaha. Others were far, far away from what they were doing. JBL LSR were also close as well, however what I noticed were that there was resonance in the low-mid low region, which I was right, I found out. These were my real life and real unbiased view on the sounds at that time. I was really shocked when I saw the Genelec's prices.. It's not even the same "sport".. This word seems a little bit biased, sorry dude.
@nads59074 жыл бұрын
Totally agree.
@jasondeift64752 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my A7X for 9-10 years, never had a days trouble…I think they are brilliant in the mids and disagree about the highs completely. Bright perhaps, harsh never
@JohnOShaughnessy3 жыл бұрын
I spent many weeks working with a pair of Adam A7x. It was in a properly treated studio control room. I did not find these monitors too bright. Having said that, I'm 65 years old so maybe you hear things that I don't. But I have used many types of nearfield monitors in my life. The first ones I owned were BBC Monitors for small cabins, the LS3/5A.
@haus_cat2 ай бұрын
Very excited to receive mine , I'm upgrading from T7Vs {which are fantastic btw}. gonna binge my fav albums.
@MikeVerta4 жыл бұрын
I've had these for years. I learned to mix on them, meaning I learned to compensate for them. My last set.
@DanielMartinez-ir4pf3 жыл бұрын
What you going with next?
@jerbear16013 жыл бұрын
Maybe these speakers are accurate and the ones you are listening on later are crap?
@Styrant3 жыл бұрын
Itd be interested to see your take on the T7V'S as kind of a full round up on what Adam has too offer, you are correct though the tweeters in the T, S, and A line are different
@Sonbranchmusic3 жыл бұрын
I remember a world where you could actually A/B test monitors in a store, but now that most everyone buys on the Internet, there is inevitably buyer's bias that results from researching specs and reviews, making a decision, buying monitors without hearing them, and then thinking those are the best monitors in the world. We also live in a world where sales people push certain products because of the profit margin or an end-of-the month sales push, knowing that we can't hear before we buy. (BTW, if the huge candy company really wanted us to hear what they sell, why haven't they set up a few demonstration sites in major cities?) I'm grateful that Geoff has given a realistic assessment of the A7X monitors, which is consistent with criticisms from other reviewers who actually talk about the sound. As an owner of the Focal Solo6 Be monitors as well, I can appreciate that his ears are undoubtedly tuned to hearing beautiful, silky and clear highs without harshness or fatigue.
@ivanjackman4 жыл бұрын
first video of yours I've seen and from production value and knowledge I will defo check out more! the review seems very incomplete? too bright out of the box, once adjusted how do they sound? were mids still masked? did you get used to the tweeter sound? kinda left clueless.
@erikduijs27234 жыл бұрын
Interesting review and the honesty is much appreciated. I understand your main gripe with the A7X but the top-end is what sold me on them. I find that when stuff sounds bright to the point of being hash and piercing, there's an issue in the mix there and they make it very obvious. And although they are bright, I don't find them fatiguing at all. It's a bit horses for courses I guess, and I suppose it takes a bit getting used to them. But personally I really like working with them. The low-end is very tight and precise (although of course it's lacking in the bottom octave), the mids seem quite balanced to my ears, and yes, I love that high-end :)
@MediaMusik7773 жыл бұрын
I have owned f7 tv7 and ax7 and all the tweeters are harsh for about the first month and then they become level and during this period just tape a piece of studio foam above the tweeter I used aurolex foam and it fixed the issue 2 dollar fix . I cut the foam shaped like a door wedge and tape it above my tweeter where the foam lips out just enough to soften the highs until broken in completely
@ancientalien8154 жыл бұрын
Off topic but I just bought a focal solo sub6. Absolute best subwoofer I've ever heard. Most subs I've tried never could mix right with the other speakers. You could always hear or tell there was a sub on. With the sub6 it sounds like Im listening to giant full range speakers that sound sooooo good. It blends perfectly! They definitely got it right with that sub.
@cosmic.generator2 жыл бұрын
Would this sub pair well with a7x’s?
@surya_dnb4 жыл бұрын
Finally a more nuanced review of the A7X.
@matthewmcclure31814 жыл бұрын
I purchased these monitors a few months ago and they have contributed to better mixing/mastering. That said, they are my first monitors in this price/quality range so I don't have an applicable reference point for comparison. One question. After adjusting the shelf or tweeter level controls on the back, where you able to adjust the high end to a level that cleared up any masking in the mid frequency range?
@captainvoluntaryistthestat32074 жыл бұрын
Have you tried something like sonarworks on these? how is the acoustics of the room?
@cortelyouroadradio85744 жыл бұрын
The funny thing for me is, when I 1st got them I was disappointed by the sound and was pissed that I spent so much money and wasn't happy. Two months later I purchased a new audio interface, and what a world of difference! On a MOTU 2408 mk2 they sound like trash, but on my new Focusrite they sound 'effin' beautiful! My 2 cents.
@neoaureus4 жыл бұрын
which Focusrite may I ask?
@robgracia5093 жыл бұрын
i don't think the interface can change the sound thats coming out never heard that before
@blackreignmusik79014 жыл бұрын
Cant, they be tuned to the room from the rear?
@surya_dnb4 жыл бұрын
Yes, he mentions that in the review. Did you watch all of it?
@rpennon69124 жыл бұрын
@@surya_dnb I must have missed it...Thanks
@inmerstate4 жыл бұрын
I wish I saw this before buying a pair of A7X's. I was so excited when I got them I thought It'd be a huge upgrade on a sound perspective, and... NOPE. Hugely disappointed. Highs were bright but my main concern was the lack on the low end, it just wasn't tight enough for me. I even paired them with a sub it did improve the sound a lot but still was not convinced. I think mixing with a subwoofer can get tricky since you might make wrong decisions (too much bass or not enough bass). I am not saying these suck. Some people love them and I tried my hardest to love them too but I just couldn't. What I conclude (not saying I have the absolute truth) is that you have to listen to several monitors for yourself and pick which ones you like best. And get used to the sound. Before the A7X's I've had KRK Rokits 6 and Yamaha HS8. I ended up going back to the Yamaha HS8. Really love how well balanced they are without the necessity of a subwoofer. They provide the best tone in lows, mids and highs imo. But again, that's just my ears opinion. You have to find out what your ears like. If an audio equipment is more expensive, It does not mean it's better. At the end of the day, It's not about what you have, It's what you do with what you have. Thanks for the honest review! EDIT: Afer about 8 months or so. I really like the sound of these with a sub woofer paired (120hz crosssover). It really fixed the bass now.
@Lacrom234 жыл бұрын
So you now use Adams with sub instead of Yamaha HS8?
@smpiggystudio3 жыл бұрын
@@Lacrom23 Curious too, I'm using A8X and a sub, but from the first day I connected them through a Behringer DEQ2496, to compesate the EQ, so until now, they sound nice(most time don't even need to switch on the sub).
@wickstorm_records3 жыл бұрын
Your room sucks bro
@dapperchapmusic53365 жыл бұрын
Hi, Geoff. Really appreciate your honesty and integrity here - despite being lent these by Adam, you didn't sugar coat your review. Kudos. I have the previous model - the A7s - back home. I'm overseas right now and missing them like hell. What I'm missing most is that honest top-end. I don't know if they've tweaked something in the design since but to me, the mid-range is extraordinarily deep and detailed, and the top is not aggressive sounding at all - a little forward perhaps but if anything it sometimes makes my mixes sound a bit too sweet! I've learned to compensate for this and now I'm finding the learning curve for my travel monitors difficult to deal with. I'm getting some unpleasant surprises in my mixes. I'm also missing good single malt. I'm just about to polish off the last of the Cardhu which I brought back with me and your video has me hankering after another Speysider. An Aberlour would go down very well right now. The abundh (I can't pronounce it either) is cask strength - add a couple of drops of water to it and it'll open up into something really special. Cheers!
@neilwright7294 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy and respect your videos. I have not 'subscribed' to anyone else's channel but yours; you are so worth listening to. Thanks for having the courage to say - straight up - that something doesn't work for you. So many of us aren't going to be able to compare mid/high end monitors in the same room, or even at all. Videos like yours make me feel that I can create a workable 'short list' of which monitors I really need to hear, which is great because I am 300 miles from anywhere I could hear Focals, Barefoots, etc. Much appreciated sir.
@ManchesterMusic4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it’s difficult to keep the channel going because of time or resources or wanting stuff to be perfect but it’s comments like these that keep me going. Really appreciate the kind words Neil!
@neilwright7294 жыл бұрын
@@ManchesterMusic I have watched your Izotope videos as well and you do such a thorough and professional job... It is a blessing to have a real pro like you provide valuable information (and advice) to all of us who don't live near Vintage King or Sweetwater. Maybe some people don't say anything, but we get a LOT out of your work and - as an electrical engineer myself - I really respect your thoroughness and attention to detail; it makes me take you so much more seriously than many other reviewers. You give a lot of people a lot of help!
@QLFProductions3 жыл бұрын
Was looking to upgrade from my JBL 305's. After this I cancelled my order. I just needed a reason not to spend the money. One thing my JBL's don't do is over hype the high's
@andynonimuss62982 жыл бұрын
It looks like the new A7V now has the same tweeters in the S series. 12 years later the A7X gets updated...wow, that's a long time!
@ManchesterMusic2 жыл бұрын
I noticed!
@benjaminduk57645 жыл бұрын
Nice review Geoff. I have a set of A7X's and didn't think to much of it until I started demoing the Amphion One18's. The first thing I noticed with the Amphion's was that the mids sound smoother and less prominent and that surprised me. What I realised was that I was so used to the brightness of the Adam's that I wasn't used to such smooth balanced mids. Also what you say about the low mids is 100% true. This area tends to sound muffled and is not defined enough in my opinion.
@Hakusiyah22 жыл бұрын
Bro wtf these are 3.000€ Monitors
@jarekstepniak4 жыл бұрын
Super but what's the point of using monitors with a larger woofer than 5 in the near field?
@MiDnYTe254 жыл бұрын
Unless you work with material strictly over 80 Hz, not much. But even then, you should know what's going down in your mix.
@faaip0de0oaid2 ай бұрын
Wondering how it compares to the A7V
@mentalechoofficial25634 жыл бұрын
Having bought these speakers and used them for the last 9 months i can say that i am completly in love with them , i loved your review and also understand your reaction to the "high-end performance" of this ribbon tweeters and it kind of was a pain in the ass to get use to them but after some months of "hear-training" i find the fast response of the high frequencies super helpfull in terms of producing and processing Electronic music. The only big problem i got with these speakers is that 1 month after i got them , one of the speakers just gave up on life XD ( however ADAM were awesome and after 3 weeks i got my speaker ready to rock and never failed me again :D no charge on that also :) ) loving your videos by the way !!!
@aaronwong19774 жыл бұрын
That's interesting, I had a similar amp failure after only a few months of owning them. All seems well since.
@TomCourtneyMusic Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this fantastic and honest review. I couldn't agree more not just bright but harsh. I recently Did side to side comparison of the A7X and the new A4V and the new Adams tweeters are worse by a long shot. Overall teh AX serious is a better speakere than the new A4V even. The new monirors have very nice bass and mids but the tweeters is harsh. If I had to chosse I'd keep the A7X version of these speakers. The problem is this leavs very little choice for decent monitors unless you buy something like the Focal Solo's you have which are not cheap for many of us. Thanks again man.
@FugaziSB3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand this review....you criticize what most people consider as an industry standard, and put these to shame because they sound too bright out of the box? Did you try to calibrate them using the screws behind? they are there for a reason, right? Each human being hears differently and each studio has a different response to sound, this is why calibration is needed in some cases, so if you tried everything you can to calibrate them and they still stuck, thanks for the honest review, but if you didn't, this review use useless for me.
@floriL36365 жыл бұрын
Interesting... In my case, mixes done with the A7X but listened on high-level professional equipment have too much low end (I am mixing without subwoofer). But what you say makes sense, because I sometimes hear that some of my mixes sound "muffled". I never have assumed thats because of the A7Xs....
@MikeyHoldenMusic4 жыл бұрын
Glad I've just seen this. What do you think of the Mackie HR824 Mk2?
@blakepennycook89524 жыл бұрын
I own those Mackies, I'd love to see a proper comparison
@joshsmith78122 жыл бұрын
I used the smaller adams from the AX series before, mainly to have a small but what I thought was an “accurate” reference to use alongside my other monitors, I had some issues with neighbours over noise in the past so I actually had to end up using those as my main monitors alongside some headphones for low end sanity checks, and my mixes I did on them where just always off, (I know people who’ve made great mixes on Adams) but I just couldn’t be consistent with them, I also noticed only after eventually sorting that issue out with neighbours and being able to get other monitors that I missed a few resonances in the mixes I did with them as well, fast forward to later once I became a Mastering Engineer, so many clients who send me mixes that have used Adam AX monitors have similar issues in their mixes. I think Adam audio as a company builds a lot of hype and their marketing is great, and I think people fall victim to that. Don’t get me wrong, as I’ve said I’ve also heard outstanding mixdowns done on them, and monitor choice is a very personal thing, but yeah, I just found it interesting at least anyway that the mixes that weren’t good done on them for the most part had similar issues
@Hakusiyah22 жыл бұрын
What are those similar issues? Lol
@adammercysystem64502 жыл бұрын
Had the chance to get these with a massive discount, so I jumped at the chance. I honestly much preferred my older focal alpha 65 in my room, extended bass response and less harsh in the highs, the music I make is extremely sub bass heavy and I just couldn't hear things down there as much as the focals. I know the focals are probably more "hyped" in this area being lower budget speakers but I honestly didnt enjoy them.
@greim35163 жыл бұрын
I will disagree about TOO BRIGHT I would say too detailed which is weird thing to say and I like that detail what I dont like in Highs is I cannot hear the small decay of a reverb for example when used on hihats (decay 1.2second 30% - 35% wet) I hear more space but not the decay time as I hear it in a headphones because in headphones I actually hear the reverb chamber/room but here on speakers I get more kinda depth rather than room feeling ofcoarse when I crank up reverb to 1.7 seconds or 2 seconds and make wetness 40-50% then reverb comes in but again differently overall amazing speakers that need an ear to get used to
@orlyangeloandthesoundcrate2 жыл бұрын
With the emergence of the new Adam A series. The A7V's appear to be the upgrade to the A7X. Its prob too early to judge the differences... But at a glance from the Adam site. The new A series have a calibration method via either net & the room settings look more thought through... Your thoughts?
@ManchesterMusic2 жыл бұрын
I’d really love to get a pair and test them, especially to see if they’ve solved the distortion on the tweeters.
@KarlGutowski4 жыл бұрын
So, what you're saying is... there is a low shelf, high shelf, and tweeter level calibration controls (3 knobs) on the back of these speakers, but you'd rather criticize the speakers for their factory settings than to calibrate the them for your room? Do you think it's a coincidence that these speakers have 2 calibration knobs for upper frequencies? Your criticism would be justified if the speakers sounded too harsh and the manufacturer didn't provide you with the tools to change that. You didn't even try to match the highs to the sound you're used to in the Focals. Did you even check that the calibration knobs on the back were zeroed? I can't respect this review.
@exodusvelo4 жыл бұрын
you are right sir, that's what i am thinking about now. i will order a st of these a7x and test by myself. the guy just don't even mention the rear treble knobs, just the high highs... strange... very strange...
@djvar944 жыл бұрын
Absolutely 1000% agree with you. Honestly, it's like comparing Apples with Oranges. There is no point to that if as he himself said he did everything he could possibly do to try and get the best possible listening experience from them. Well, he certainly didn't use the adjustment knobs on the back and he then complains that they sounded too harsh on the high end. It could have also been his room playing a role in that in the first place or the monitor's placement. But seriously, if you're going to compare a set of monitors against some others than at least first make sure you bring one set as close as possible to any other for as much as you can possibly do, whether it's adjusting the knobs on the back or using correction software like Sonarworks Reference 4. Really disliked the review for your same reason
@sonichedgehog364 жыл бұрын
Perfect review! In the studio, I can see how this slightly playful, flamboyant sound could be highly undesirable in critical, precision work. Let me offer another perspective as an audiophile: Adam A7X are speakers that make everything sound amazing with their slight U-shaped response which has led to them being highly recommended in audiophile circles. The A7X's add just that little bit of cut and slam while still possessing an incredible degree of precision and low distortion for musical enjoyment.Their slightly tipped up sound on the frequency extremes has resulted in them becoming a go-to recommendation over Emotiva and KEF. This makes me wonder why doesn't Adam make a rebadge of these in the consumer market. They make the Martin Logan speakers at your local Best Buy's Magnolia section sound like a mushy, confused joke. I would imagine Adam would sell these by the boatload if they did.
@exodusvelo4 жыл бұрын
well, if you live in planet earth, you would now that adam make a5t a7t a8t, they are budget adams, sound better than this for actual listening. Tired of the german porno piercing ears.
@michaelnorth37852 жыл бұрын
Well ... did you play with the controls? They have the only thing missing from my Sceptre 8 ... tweeter volume control !
@mosquedadavid2 жыл бұрын
Finally an honest review!!!
@ManchesterMusic2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it, David.
@gabrield.cstoica18323 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see this video about why I'm a bit confused now that it would be better to buy between Focal and Adam, because my studio is small and I would like to buy the Focal shape 40 ... what is your opinion?
@PeterSchmidt5 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks for these speaker reviews! Ikmultimedia just came out with a new set called the MTM ilouds, they look crazy cool! Would love to hear your thoughts on those eventually! Thanks again!!
@PARAMONARIOS4 жыл бұрын
Finally, an honest review! So far I saw nothing but exalted praise review videos about these!
@KarlGutowski4 жыл бұрын
Because they are fantastic if you calibrate them properly, and I don't own a pair.
@ndujamz4 жыл бұрын
Tannoy Reveals are very well balanced studio monitors
@ManchesterMusic4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I gotta try those.
@jerbear16013 жыл бұрын
What type of music are you mixing? Real instruments or electronic dance and hip hop? That's the thing right? Do you want hype or do you want range? Your mix has to be done well. If the reviewers only do one type of music they can't really say what everyone wants.
@roytasanen59782 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honest review
@STOKES_SOCIAL4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this was super useful!
@danhicks19124 жыл бұрын
I was seriously considering these as an upgrade from my aging Genelec 8030’s, but I think I’m going to save a bit harder and get a pair of PSI A17-M’s.
@romainst84994 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of Fostex pm0.5n for now... 8years... don't know if i should upgrade to improve my mixes...
@stevethebeeline444 жыл бұрын
Great review! Would love to see your review of the Focal Solo 6Be. Are these your main monitor along with the NS10’s?
@ManchesterMusic4 жыл бұрын
I can sum them up here: they’re very reliable and offer great low end resolution without needing a sub (necessarily). My only complaints are these: I wish they’d offered built it protection tweeter protection. A metal grill or something. They’re made of beryllium and quite exposed. One cracked during a move. The other thing, and I have no empirical proof, is that they seem to be slightly lower output than when I first bought them. Little quieter. Otherwise, they’re great.
@henrikandersen47774 жыл бұрын
do u think you can use the KEF LSX for making music, for a beginner as i have thise im my setup allready. alsow when i heard my first rebbon tweter i was blow awany, maby your ears alsow dont like the ribbon sound? as your so used to flat. but i see your point, have u tryed mixing on thise and slam the mix into a car or normal home setup and see if theres any issues?
@jasperruddock51553 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos, i'm setting up a home studio and looking for new monitors, my budget is £800 £1000 for studio monitors.... could you advise me on which to recommend with my budget
@mohamedahmed10234 жыл бұрын
I didn't find them too bright. Could his room be contributing to this?
@CrushGio4 жыл бұрын
thats the first thing i looked at was his room. judging from the walls in his room, it doesnt look well treated.
@NotDayWalker2 жыл бұрын
cant you reduce the tweeter gain and reduce the brightness?
@halcyo3 жыл бұрын
Do you feel like, IF the tweeters are attenuated on the back, does the final equation equal a great sounding monitor? I'm very interested in their big brother, the A77x (the 2.5 way horizontal ones), but I keep hearing such terrible things about these tweeters lol. Maybe it's just a sign that I should move on to something else!
@ManchesterMusic3 жыл бұрын
It's possible, yes.
@zanza_the_rewolverine5 жыл бұрын
adam a7x does not seem to be popular with many people, hedd type 07 seems to be getting its mark, but in this price range and almost unanimously point to the neumann 120A or now the recent focal shape 65
@marteneliasson83854 жыл бұрын
Its taste a7x is nice.
@izakboom84875 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your passionate sweaty review Geoff! I was considering to buy these speakers but 'too much brightness', (I heard somebody else about that as well . . ) is enough reason for me to look for something else. What would you think is a good alternative for these Adam speakers?
@DarkPa1adin5 жыл бұрын
But if you spend this much on speakers, won't you also buy sonarworks to calibrate your speakers?
@izakboom84875 жыл бұрын
@@DarkPa1adin I will check that!
@izakboom84875 жыл бұрын
@@n_dawson Thanks for your reaction, I will think about that!
@nads59074 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an excellent review! So wonderful to hear an honest and fair review on these monitors. Earned my subscription! I actually went to a store specifically to check out the A7Xs. I AB'd them against other models (Dynaudio, Neumann, Genelec etc.) and was underwhelmed by their performance. They seem as over hyped as their top end ;) Quick question. Have you ever listened to Focal'sl Alpha 80? Be grateful for your thoughts on this, since I'm unable to currently check out monitors right now!
@ManchesterMusic4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t actually. Just the shapes and SoloBe models. Thanks for the kind words!
@nads59074 жыл бұрын
@@ManchesterMusic Honestly your reviews are the best I've seen online. Well done! Since you really love accurate sound, I wonder what you'd make of Neumann's KH310s, or the less expensive (but good bang for the buck) Dynaudio LYD 48. Both worth your attention in my opinion. Looking forward to checking out your sound library reviews!
@ManchesterMusic4 жыл бұрын
@@nads5907 Lots of my friends absolutely swear by the Neumann KH series, especially their near field stuff. I asked them for a pair to review and they turned me down :(. But I'm hopeful that one day I can try them out!
@nads59074 жыл бұрын
@@ManchesterMusic The Neumann KH310s punch well above their weight. They cost 3k for the pair, but easily compete with higher end monitors like Barefoots and PMCs- which is what I think makes them so interesting for producers such as yourself. I'm sure when Neumann get wind of your channel, they'll send you a pair for review :)
@ManchesterMusic4 жыл бұрын
@@nads5907 Well, I've already tried and they shut me down. If you want to make some noise on my behalf, I'd appreciate it. Maybe hit up their Twitter or something. No pressure.
@matrixate4 жыл бұрын
Wow...I had a feeling someone was going to bust the hype. Thank you so much for this fantastic and review. I truly believe what you said is absolutley true, not actually having heard these for myself but it all makes sense now. These are exactly what someone would need as an addition to a studio, but not as a substitute for their workhorse monitors. For me, that would be my combination HS8+Avantones. I like the fact that you said they are bright....I could definitely use that for catching artifacts in the highs, just like the Avantones for the mids. To be honest, I'm probably going to buy a pair for that reason alone and add them to my home studio. This sounds like something I really need. By the way, I do a LOT of post production with RX...so these look like a necessity for me. Thanks again brother.
@AndyNicholson4 жыл бұрын
This was my (brief) experience with these monitors too, the lows were nice and clear, but the tops were too distracting - went for a pair Kali LP6's instead, absolutely love them.
@TheDezedez2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review!!
@Ellzwerfmusic3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've been watching many reviews on this and I was kind of thinking the same thing. I am the type of engineer who once the flattest possible response available and I was leaning towards the speakers to be honest but you're kind of changing my mind. I currently have the Yamaha hs7s and they sounded very dull on KZbin comparison videos and that's where my suspicion of the Adams not being as flat as the Yamahas and you kind of clarified my suspicion so thank you
@BoboRenthlei2 жыл бұрын
Are a7x assembled in china?
@brianfeuhtinger32675 жыл бұрын
There is something that I was thinking about when i was checking Composer cloud and listening to Your Video., Let's say I try The Composer Cloud, I get the licensing, The plug-ins needed and then Get all the instruments I want and need and they're burned to Disc, IF I let the subscription run out, Will I Still be able to use the instruments that I've downloaded ?????, The subscription's Annual cost I believe is over $300.00 so If I'm Dead-in-the-Water(No Subscription-No Play) because I let the subscription run out, Why don't i just Bite the Bullet and get ''Hollywood Orchestra Gold ??? Sorry for Copying this comment and pasting it in a more recent Video, the Composer cloud video is a couple of years old and probably forgotten.
@ListerofSmeg20065 жыл бұрын
This is answered in East West's own FAQ: What happens to my compositions if I cancel my membership? Nothing will happen to your compositions if you cancel. Anything composed during your membership will be yours to use as you choose forever. You simply won’t be able to access the instruments as before to create new compositions. We suggest you render (bounce) the instruments in your compositions to your digital audio workstation before any cancellation.
@TheBjjninja2 жыл бұрын
If you think these are bright how do metal tweeters sound
@ManchesterMusic2 жыл бұрын
Not sure. I have beryllium tweeters on my Focals and they're bright but not piercing.
@kelvinteokiatuan66353 жыл бұрын
Hi Geoff! Any impressions on the T7Vs and the T series?
@ManchesterMusic3 жыл бұрын
Haven’t tried em!
@donaldghazi23923 жыл бұрын
Would you choose Focal Shape 40 or Adam A3X as a mono? Basically will be mixing (djaying) in a closet and wall mount it right in front of me on top...
@JohnOShaughnessy3 жыл бұрын
those Adam A3x's are seriously good, deceptively so, from such a small thing! They work very well in small enclosed spaces.
@kokainkalle45273 жыл бұрын
Adam also offers a wall mount specifically for the A3X (and other small Adam speakers), which makes it look like they are 'flying'. I have one A3X wallmounted to the wall and they sound and look superb.
@itsallinyourhead96734 жыл бұрын
Yo bro! I noticed this review might not cater to me because you’re referencing these against monitors clearly out of my price range, but from yamaha hs8’s you think these would be a good upgrade?
@ManchesterMusic4 жыл бұрын
Man, I’d be rich if I had a dollar every time someone asked me about those. Never tried em tho...
@itsallinyourhead96734 жыл бұрын
Manchester Music it’s all good I ended up buying the a7x’s and they were worth every penny lol
@danielrockwater68294 жыл бұрын
Dynaudio Lyd 7 are a good option :3
@JohnOShaughnessy3 жыл бұрын
you've got these? I've heard them and kinda like them.
@W0LFGANG113 жыл бұрын
Hey!! I watched both the videos for the Adam A7x and the Focal shapes I actually own the A7x but have an opportunity to send them back to get the focal shape twins what is your opinion between the shapes and the ax series?
@W0LFGANG113 жыл бұрын
My room is on the smaller size but my room is treated really well and I also use sonarworks to calibrate
@halcyo3 жыл бұрын
I would love a review on the Focal Shape Twins as well. I’m kind of in that Shape Twin, Adam A77x, Dynaudio lyd 48, $1200 per speaker max budget, but want a bigger/3 way design kinda price range. You’re one of the few review guys who I KNOW is being honest because you’re not afraid to shit on a piece of gear’s flaws. You should be do doing new reviews as often as possible- you’re a fantastic reviewer!
@ManchesterMusic3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude. Getting speakers to review is another matter. Not every manufacturer or brand is able to send them to be or frankly even wants to. But I really enjoy doing them.
@jacobalexander5414 жыл бұрын
Great to have an honest opinion on what"s good and clearly; the bad too.Morely important, for the layperson. Tq chap.
@gurtana3 жыл бұрын
This review is quite surprising - it goes against the grain of most of the other reviews I've seen. Has your opinion changed since? Have Adam contacted you about this to suggest a set-up? Also, if these monitors are disappointingly bright on their highs, what is a good alternative overall monitor pair that you'd recommend instead?
@ManchesterMusic3 жыл бұрын
My opinion hasn't changed since this review. I reached out to Adam upon posting and they didn't have much to say back, beyond acknowledging receipt of my message. They're a great company. The Focals I own (SoloBe) are less harsh and I've heard great things about Neumann's KH series, but haven't played with them just yet.
@gurtana3 жыл бұрын
@@ManchesterMusic I'm curious to know whether you think that perhaps you've mixed so much on the SoloBe that you are so familiar with their sound that the A7X would definitely sound harsher/brigther by comparison? But for those not familiar with the SoloBE, would they notice the harsher top end? Sometimes what our ears atune to over hours and years makes the difference in preference. What sort of music do you mix, btw? And can you see a scenario with a style of music that the A7X would be better suited for?
@ManchesterMusic3 жыл бұрын
@@gurtana I've been in a lot of rooms with a lot of different monitor set ups, and personally I've had the Solo's for a while, but if you've been to my channel you'll notice I've reviewed other monitors too, like PMC and other Focals. I mix all kinds of stuff, and no matter what the genre you'll want a neutral pair of speakers. Also, I reviewed the Adam S3Vs which do not exhibit a 'hyped' high end. In my testing, I was balancing the A7s between the SoloBe's and a pair of matched NS10s, over and over. Funny enough I reached out to a mastering engineer friend to ask him "is it just me or at the A7s very, very bright". His response "They're notoriously bright, in fact anytime I get a mix and the high end is dull and needs excitement 9/10 times it's because it was mixed on A7s". What he's referring to is that the A7s naturally boost high end to the point where the mixer assumes the top end is adequately bright, when in reality it's not; the speakers colouration misrepresents brightness. All that being said, this is just my opinion. I'm a random KZbinr. You should go find a pair and listen for yourself and make the determination on your own. If you truly want the A7s, go buy them, you'll probably be happier with them if that's what you really really want.
@540dell3 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on the Hedd type 07's?
@Deffcolony4 жыл бұрын
What speakers should I buy for music production not too expensive atleast under the 1K of price also want to use Dolby atmos i really need advice because I am movie sound designer/sound engineer
@inmerstate4 жыл бұрын
Everyone hears different. But from my experience; I've owned KRK 6, Adam A7X and Yamaha Hs8. My opinion is that you can't go wrong with the HS8. And the price is not very expensive.
@Writtenmirror4 жыл бұрын
Which did you choose in the end? I'm in the same boat but haven't been able to test any speakers because of covid 19
@Deffcolony4 жыл бұрын
@@Writtenmirror Adam A7X and they sound really great i bought 2 of them also the bass is nice but for a really really low bass you need to have a sub woofer
@Writtenmirror4 жыл бұрын
@@Deffcolony Nice I've never owned monitors so it's been tough making a decision without hearing them...
@FaithfulBM4 жыл бұрын
If the A7Xs where too bright, why did you get rid of your Yamaha NS10s?
@ManchesterMusic4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t.
@crayzmusic4 жыл бұрын
These are mor high end but what do you think of barefoot microstacks? Have you heard them before, looking into buying but not many people can answer questions about them
@ManchesterMusic4 жыл бұрын
Nah I’ve never used Barefoots stuff. Seems to be everywhere tho
@crayzmusic4 жыл бұрын
@@ManchesterMusic ha worth a shot, thanks for quick answer, would love to get your opinion on them, am unable to test them because i live in a small city but a lot of major studios swear by barefoot and the microstack looks like it covers all bases for the price. Your vids about investing in monitors kind of pushed me to make the jump, all of my gear for my new studio setup is high end and wouildnt make sense to skip out on that after hearing you, thanks again , just discovered your channel but already a big fan
@crayzmusic4 жыл бұрын
going to have to really treat my room because of them more than normally probably, going to look through your vids if you have any on room treatment, if you dont im sure im not the only one who would love one from you, trust your no nonsense opinion
@jimsanger5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised, trust your judgement Geoff
@steelesaldutti3 жыл бұрын
Cool video. Would get some more light in there
@djvar944 жыл бұрын
Honestly? You said you did everything you could have possibly done to get the best listening experience possible from them, yet when you have compared them towards your other monitors you haven't bothered in tweaking the 3 knobs on the back of the A7Xs. And then you complain that the tweeters sounded far too bright, far too overpowering. But you haven't bothered to manually trying to make them sound more close to your other speakers. So either your ears or even your room or maybe even your monitors placement might have played a role in that all together. When using speakers especially from different brands you need to calibrate each and every one of them, being with just using the adjustment knobs on the back or with a room correction software like Sonarworks Reference 4. Your complaint like someone else said here in the comments too would have been fair if the manufacturer gave you no option whatsoever for you to make changes to the speaker in terms of tonal balance, but since there are 3 fricking knobs on the back of the Adam A7X, a low shelf, a high shelf and a tweeter level, well I think that on its own is already a very powerful set of tools for you to make your monitors sound just right, even without necessarily using Sonarworks Reference 4. Disliked this video's for this reason.
@Avedis-G5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this review! I did have a question/thought though… From all that I’ve read, seen, and heard about these speakers the thing that comes up most about these tweeters is their flat honesty. I’ve heard shimmering, incredibly crisp and out of this world frequencies. To me, and I admit I’m new to this in some regards, I want that honesty. Highs kill me anyway from a touring/monitor mishap so I’m very sensitive to them. I’m also a midrange lover (I’ve got a Boogie Mark V) and agree completely with your assessment. I’m curious as to how exactly it was covering up those mids? Were guitars, hh’s piercing and not crunching through? We’re the highs too high when you did your car test? Thanks!
@ManchesterMusic5 жыл бұрын
Imho mids were masked by the highs , not severely, but enough for me to notice. They’re perceptible, sure, but a tweeter shelf adjustment on the monitors themselves is required for the mid range to articulate properly i’d say.
@Avedis-G5 жыл бұрын
Manchester Music gotcha. Flat is flat is flat so if you’ve got to tweak it out of the box... maybe not. Hmmmm. I may have to hit up the Pro Audio dept and take a live listen. Thanks again!
@Writtenmirror4 жыл бұрын
Here's my question, how do you get manufacturers to send you speakers? Is it with an understanding that you must review or some other stipulation? Also how long are you given them for or is it with the view to you paying for them if you like them? I'm genuinely intrigued please take no offence from me asking...
@nicholastoo8585 жыл бұрын
Been hearing about them being bright is different forums, glad that you could confirm. Can you review any Genelec? Word is that they are very accurate.
@ManchesterMusic5 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Too mhm. I’d love to review Genelecs, but I don’t know anyone over there.
@MANUVICENT4 жыл бұрын
buenas pues yo tengo unos alesis m1 active mk2 desde hace 20 años y ya les toca un cambio los tweeter estan pelin jodidos y me habia enamorado de los a7x y todo el mundo que si los mejores monitores de estudio 2019 que si esto lo otro , en fin y ahora veo tu analisis y me dejas un poco CHOF yo los quiero para pinchar techno y para produccion musical y son 1.000 € que me jode un poco
@leemski3 жыл бұрын
Let's put it that way: IT IS NOT AN HONEST OPINION about #AdamAudio A7X - IT IS JUST AN OPINION, AND YET VERY SUBJECTIVE ONE. This presentation is about "Manchester Music" own ears, own space, own speaker placement, own taste. The only disappointment here is not about the monitor's quality, but about the way a personal disappointment is presented like it should be the final and only way to see those Adam's monitors. Truly, totally wrong way to make a statement about any kind of products. Thumbs down. And I do not have A7Xs if you ask me. Use your own ears to choose what please you. Use audio monitors soft/hardware calibration for proper setup, use room treatment, proper placement in space you have, and so, you'll be all happier and most efficient while mixing.
@ManchesterMusic2 жыл бұрын
My opinions aren't dishonest. But I agree that my video shouldn't be anyone's 'final word' on the A7Xs. Listen to a diversity of opinion and voices but it's critical that folks use their judgement when making such a substantial financial purchase. If you can, get into a speaker store or see if they'll let you rent them for a day to try out in your own space. Monitors are like shoes: just cause you see everyone wearing a pair doesn't mean they'll fit your feet perfectly..you have to try on a few to find the right ones for you.
@leemski2 жыл бұрын
@@ManchesterMusic Hi, my response was based on what @Ali Bekir Kılıçkaya says: "(...) thank you for your honest opinion" I wanted to point out that your opinion is just an opinion. @Ali Bekir Kılıçkaya uses words like you're the honest one, and the others are biased or dishonest, or we cannot trust in their opinions. Also, you compare $749.99 (each) Adam 7x to as much as twice the price $1,499.00 (each) Focal Solo Be 6 (28th of September 2021Sweet Water price) which is a substantial difference - obviously not the same price category. So, as I am a curious guy, I went to a specialized shop with a cello player, with a very fine ear (obviously haha) who also knows sound treatment and audio engineering. And we've listened to many set-ups, ADAM 7x and Solo Focal included. And ADAM 7x where in his top 3 choices. Solo Focal was not on the final choice list. So you see, it's all personal opinions.
@ManchesterMusic2 жыл бұрын
@@leemski Cool
@7kudos Жыл бұрын
Original Adam a7 tweeters vs the Adam A7x tweeters. A7 originals had shorter stroke tweeters to allow the bright high end to mellow out in the room with distance. Your disatance of monitors has to be at least 2 meters away or 5-8 feet. It worked for me with both versions cause of the build quality, being to rigid. So like a race car built to last you got to lower the rev's by pulling the distance back and lowering the Db on the high end so that these near fields will work for you. Don't be like a BMW and wear the parts out faster. The a7x is much like a BMW. Factory setting doesn't mean riding it out like a f1 car.
@amplifier23 жыл бұрын
Very, very good!
@scottlowell4932 жыл бұрын
I have not read anything about Adam that would make me buy them over Focal, Genelec or Dynaudio. When I see reviews, only the die hard fanboys consider them flawless. I can ascertain that Focals (shape for example) are better in every aspect. Fact: ribbon drivers crossed to dynamics have more issues than dynamics crossed to dynamics. Upper midrange usually suffers. They end up overcompensating to mask the problem area. Additionally, I find ribbons a specific taste. That is, they are more diffuse and less pinpoint than dynamics.
@MufasaMK3 жыл бұрын
U the best.
@antondoty55523 жыл бұрын
As an owner of the original A7 monitors (no X, purchased around 2004), I've been very much against the sound of the A7Xs since hearing them the first time. A rapper/engineer buddy of mine with a great room bought them a few years ago, and from the first listen I found them very brittle compared to my A7s' smooth but revealing top end. Also the bass is super boosted (possibly the 2 ports instead of 1) and gets very muddy very fast. While the original A7s aren't a shining picture of a professional monitor (looking to upgrade to the PMC Result6 thanks to your review!) I think they're much closer to neutral. The A7Xs remind me moreso of the sound of friends' KRK Rokit 5s and 7s with that falsely extended and muddy low end and extra bright top.
@ManchesterMusic3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@cjepino4 жыл бұрын
These or the Focal Shape 65s?
@ManchesterMusic4 жыл бұрын
Focal
@Tephnos4 жыл бұрын
@@ManchesterMusic Any chance of trying out the Shape Twins?
@LongshanMusic5 жыл бұрын
Still BS-What stores require before returning a speaker isn't evidence of the "running-in" claim. This has been tested. Love your vids!
@exodusvelo4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, I appreciate it. Still, I´m tired of watching adam reviews, everyone says a different thing. Not gonna buy anything high budget anymore, all have flaws unless you go genelecs apparently, so I will switch from yamaha hs7 to adam a5t, at least those are cheap.
@cristiancristeamusic9847 Жыл бұрын
Adam a7x or focal shape 65 ? What is better?
@adelkazi4 жыл бұрын
so subbed
@rayb3000 Жыл бұрын
They ARE too bright at first. You didnt break them in long enough. It took about 3 months for mine to break in.
@mrjenkins44312 жыл бұрын
I was looking for Avenged Sevenfold lol
@PangaeaMusic3 ай бұрын
they are not too bright...that was a urban myth created. what happens is they have weak lowmids which then makes the highs pop up. They have insane quality mids and high clarity but if you work with heavy bass music you ll have to find a way to bring up that lowmid which is a variable based on the room you work on, a mix of acoustic treatment, speaker placement and the eq control room at the back. They are very good speakers but they are kind hard to tune in.
@PangaeaMusic3 ай бұрын
but anyway discontinued and no ideia how the new model is.
@allIhaveISMusic14 жыл бұрын
Did Adam pay for this?
@ManchesterMusic4 жыл бұрын
Pay for what?
@mikeraz5943 жыл бұрын
You want them to be sharp and piercing so your mixes aren't sharp and piercing, This is mixing 101.. Stick with x-box bud
@ManchesterMusic3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment!
@crimenreason35433 жыл бұрын
I call bullshit
@johncarlin4553 жыл бұрын
Just because he doesn't like these doesn't make them bad monitors you bunch of lemmings.....geez. Use the monitor that helps you go your work best....for crying out loud....lmfao.
@SurrealisticEvening4 жыл бұрын
Yeah yeah, "they are too bright", like it's something that can't very easily be fixed with a curtain or a small carpet! Like there exists the performance of a speaker alone, regardless of the room and it's specific acoustic properties, inside which the speaker performs. Listen people, be done once and for all with all the useless internet reviews of audio gear, with all the utterly useless demos of speakers in whatever stores, be done with all the ignorant subjective evaluations that cannot be replicated, hence they can't form the ground on which the very formation of an opinion is possible.
@ManchesterMusic4 жыл бұрын
Wait, so your take is “high end too bright? Throw down a Persian rug!”
@SurrealisticEvening4 жыл бұрын
@@ManchesterMusic Pretty much yes, if that's your only problem with a set of speakers. I mean, you hear people, mostly coming from the so-called "audiophile" ranks, complaining about the top-end of monitor speakers sounding harsh or too bright, or that these kind of speakers are not for music listening e.t.c. At the same time, these same persons listen to untreated rooms with uncalibrated, way over-priced pieces of furniture like Harbeth, for Heaven's sake, but think that they are entitled to make ill-informed statements like these. The high frequencies, like everyone knows, can indeed very easily be managed with minimal effort. The real hell begins from the Schroeder Frequency (unique to every room, need to be specifically calculated) and below (roughly, I think, it's around 300 Hz or so in most cases), there you have huge waves canceling each other, standing waves/bass boosts in one place, huge dips in another, a real mess which smears the perception of the complete frequence range, and not just that of the first few octaves : you can't have an accurate representation of the mid and high range, if you don't get your lows right. And that latter is the harder thing to do, since it requires a huge amount of acoustic treatment, sufficiently sized and built basstraps in every corner and so forth. It's like you have 80 % of the thing fucked up and you complain about the tiny 5 % regarding the tweeter. Getting the perspective straight on this one is valuable, in my opinion. After all, you can switch the HF EQ on the back of the speaker down 2 or 4 db, no? Let alone the fact that ribbon tweeters are in general much less fatiguing to the ear over long listening sessions over others, say the "traditional" dome-shaped for example. So, thanks for your attention sir, and excuse me if in my first comment I came off like a feisty jerk!
@ManchesterMusic4 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty proud of the treatment in my room, nothing close to that of a mastering engineers spot - not that your want that level of absorption when mixing - but it’s pretty good with the bass traps, side panels and what not (you can see in other videos I’ve made). For nearly a week I’d been A/B-ing the A7s against my Focal SoloBe’s and everything from 5K - and up on the Adams was piercing comparatively. Which is surprising. I’d tested the SV3s not a month early and had no problems with their tweeters, in fact I found them pretty silky. Yes indeed you can adjust the “tweeter level” EQs on the back, which I mentioned in the video, but at A7X’s price point, and given their heritage, I expected an more even tonal balance. But hey, just one “random internet reviewers” opinion.