Review: Jura S8 Automatic Coffee Machine

[@rs3333333]

Marc does the best videos! Appreciate you guys!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Glad you like them and I appreciate your comment! Marc

[@jford1755]

Thanks for the great videos. After watching so many of your reviews: 1. I have landed on the S8, I was torn between it and the Z6 which I think is discontinued . 2. I now hear your voice in my head whenever reading a coffee product descriptions....

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey JF, You are welcome and sorry about the voice in your head. The Z6 in aluminum is still available: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/super-automatic-espresso-machines/products/jura-capresso-impressa-z6-p-e-p Marc

[@CrazyAboutVinylRecords]

Jura produces truly excellent super-automatic espresso machines. I have owned an S8 for a while and really love it. On Friday I ordered a Cool Control Unit from WLL to complete the set up. I'm not sure I understand why some so called "purists" are down on the Jura super-automatics. I've owned a number of higher end dual boiler and lever semi-automatics, and most recently bought a ECM Synchronica with flow control. I think the S8 makes a fine cup of coffee. What it lacks relative to a good semi-automatic with a manual process where you have total control, it more than makes up for in of ease of use, convenience, and repeatable results. The Jura is in my home office so I can enjoy a cappuccino or latte while I am working and don't have time to make drinks on the ECM Synchronica. The thing with the Jura is that it takes some tweaking to get the results that you want. Don't expect perfection out of the box. Thankfully, the S8 is very customizable. The default program for a Cafe Latte, for example, has the coffee strength set at half way, 3.0oz of espresso, and 10 seconds of steamed milk, which leaves my 10oz latte mug less than half full and the ratio of espresso to milk isn't right. So I adjusted the program to max coffee strength, 3oz of espresso, and 30 seconds of steamed milk. Perfect! With those changes the latte I get from the Jura is comparable to the drink I make on the Synchronica...sans the latte art. I am very good at texturing milk with the steam wand on a semi-automatic and the Jura S8 comes surprisingly close. The story is a little bit different when pulling straight shots of espresso. The Synchronica with flow control is far more capable since you can pressure profile your shot, producing a range of flavor experiences from the same coffee. But having said that, the Jura holds its own and can make a very respectable shot of espresso.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Z06, Thanks for sharing your experience. Excellent break down of the difference between semi and super-automatic machines. I bounce back and forth between the types on a daily basis. Use a lot of semi-autos at the office and usually have one at home for long-term evaluation. Also at home I have a Jura ENA Micro 90. My wife and daughter love it and I take a long coffee to go made on it every day. Less than 2 minutes from turn on to out the door with coffee in hand. Jura does make excellent machines. I like their designs and the Jura experience is all about convenience. In the studio I have access to just about every semi-auto available in the US. Flow control as you mention is amazing and if you watch my videos you know the Synchronika is one of all time favorite dual boiler machines. Incredibly well built and the best finish detail in the business. Thanks again for you detailed comment. I'm sure it will help others! Marc

[@mostafafeteha1915]

Hi Mark...which one do you recommend Jura S8 or Z6?

[@eclexian]

I bought one of these around a week ago, and I’m really enjoying it. I have fiddled with it a bit, to figure out how to get a 10-ounce coffee (my standard mug size in the morning) with a 16-gram dose of grounds-the strength I like. Here’s the trick: If you want that 10-oz/16 gram combo, just program the single Coffee to maximum Coffee strength. Then, program the 2x Coffee product for a 5.0-oz Volume. When you want your 10-oz coffee, put the mug in the middle, beneath both spouts, and tap the 2x Coffee (on the main menu if you haven’t moved it). Voila! Now you’ll get 10 ounces of water through your 16 grams of coffee into one mug. Mmmm... 😋😋

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi David, Thanks for the tip and your feedback on the machine! Marc

[@semmes5342]

Just got it the coffee is second to none

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi SM, Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the S8's coffee! Marc

[@tomothytravels]

We just bought the new S8 Inta, thank you for this video, was a great guide to getting to know and use our new machine!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey tt, You're welcome and thanks a whole latte for your comment! Marc

[@changingparadigm]

Thanks for the review. I purchased the piano black. I have the Bluetooth device. How did you program it to use Siri to brew a coffee

[@laurasouthard1214]

Thank you for the review! The only thing I’m having issue with is the coffee size, can you only go up to 8 ounces for a coffee?

[@MwgaGeorge]

Hey Mark I worked it out after watching your vid again. And also used the app on iPhone. The adapter for Bluetooth came with the machine. My only bug with machine is the tray the cups rest on. made of plastic and not very solid. The Jura machine that this one replaced had a metal tray, much firmer. Other wise excellent machine, well worth price.:)

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hoi GT, Glad you got it worked out! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the machine. Cup trays... I've used Jura machines with plastic, metal and they even had one with a glass top a few years back. Glass was my favorite - just don't drop it! Marc

[@gideonhartmann1770]

Well, we bought one and literally day after water start escaping. We brought it back and were told that the pipe from the water tank to the heater was broken. Maybe the machine is Swiss made, but looks like the pipes are made in China. We took the refund and bought semi automatic Sage. Very happy

[@dahliachalabi2082]

Could you share with me the settings for your large latte? I’m trying to customize a drink for when I leave the house in the morning and I want to use my travel mug. Thank you!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi DC, Thanks for the question. For the large latte I programmed 120ml of espresso and 35 seconds of milk froth. Additionally, I had my grind set at the finest setting, highest strength and temp setting for espresso. Hope that helps! Marc

[@dahliachalabi2082]

@@Wholelattelovepage yes! Thank you very much, your review was so good you convinced me to buy the machine!

[@simonkakon]

I have a question that I couldn't find any reference to: Some machines 2X coffee is basically using the same grind amount and pours twice the water. Can you elaborate how the S8 works? is it grinding a full pack for any drink regardless? When you choose strength of coffee what happens in the back? is it less coffee grind?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi SK, The S8 increases the amount of ground coffee as selected by the strength setting. Maximum amount ground is for a 2X beverage is 16g. It does not perform a second grind cycle for a 2X beverage. All Gaggia machines do perform a second grind cycle and some newer Jura machines do.

[@peterf.7112]

To use the JOE app do I need to purchase the smart control as an accessory or is it already installed on the Jura S8?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Peter, The Jura Smart Connect does not come pre-installed on the S8 but is available here: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-smart-connect-bluetooth-adapter Marc

[@peterf.7112]

@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you for your help

[@AndrewRae-w1m]

Excellent review Marc, thanks. I am keen on the S8 but probably won’t use the app, so my question is whether it is possible to create an individual new coffee recipe on the machine display - I.e. “Andrew’s Cappucino” or can you only re-program the recipe for the existing displayed name?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Andrew, Thanks for the kind comment and question. You can copy a product. That duplicates any product, for example to create a variant with a new product name and individual settings. Hope that helps! Marc

[@rrijecanka]

Hy, just bought Jura E8 and I see that milk is going not easy, it’s ok but I know it should be easier… I don’t have this refrigerator from Jura, I put milk in the glass… I’m getting good scum but the sound is showing that it not like in your video… why is that?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi rr, Thanks for the question. So as I understand your frothing is not as good as you think it should be? Most milk issues are caused by dirty frothing components. Keep everything clean. Shouldn't be any difference if not using the refrigerated milk supply. Also know some milks froth better than others. We were using whole fat milk in this video. Lower fat milks and/or non-dairy milks generally do not froth as creamy and are less uniform in texture. Marc

[@rrijecanka]

Hy, thank you for your answer. I think it’s bcs of the oat milk (it’s denser), and the usual milk (fat or without lactose) are making ok sound. It’s not dirty bcs it’s new machine. And I’m cleaning it every day. I think it’s oat milk 🙂

[@mohammedfa9177]

Why the machine used second for milk? and how i know the amount of milk by second ?

[@HibsMax]

Can you tell me if this can fill a travel mug? It looks like there isn’t enough room. If we want to replace our existing coffee maker with this, it has to fill a travel mug without using another vessel to fill it. Thanks.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi HM, Clearance under the main coffee dispensing spouts is 4.5" (114mm). If you need more clearance you might look at the Gaggia Accademia which has 6.5" (165mm) clearance. The Accademia also has a boost function which runs a second grind cycle to keep the strength up when making larger cups: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-accademia-espresso-machine Marc

[@DarkmanzDecantz]

Hi Marc, First off Ive been looking at a superautomatic for several years. Jura just seems like the best. Im debating btw the z10 and the s8. The z10 doesnt really fit into my budget, but the s8 might. Are there any big features i would miss out on with the s8? I would mostly use for americana, and latte?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi DD, the big feature on the Z10 not found on S8 is true cold extraction process. Produces real cold brew flavor. If you'll be using a machine mainly for Americanos be aware the S8 does not have it on the menu. You might have a look at the recently updated Gaggia Accademia. It's about the same price as the S8 and does have Americano on the menu and using the machine's boost function it makes incredibly good espresso. Beyond that it has programmable milk froth density, a wonderful UI and it's one of the only machines that's wrapped entirely in metal except for a beautiful full glass front. Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIu6hGZulK-am5Y More info: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-accademia-espresso-machine Marc

[@DarkmanzDecantz]

@@Wholelattelovepage Very interesting! I had not looked at the Gaggia previously. Now I'm kind of on the fence. I have an opportunity for an S8 at $1600. In your opinion is the gaggia worth the extra $$. At the end of the day I'm interested in the quality of the coffee, AND the longevity of the machine. I have heard you have to send the jura in every 2 yrs for service, and the academia (new version) just hast been around long enough to prove longevity.

[@DarkmanzDecantz]

@@Wholelattelovepage PS, I recently got a rock in my Baratza Vario, and it killed the motor, so now I'm really screwed! All I was thinking was "what if that happened to the superautamatic I'm going to buy"

[@john65ify]

is there a way to set the S8 to auto turn on in the morning?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi GG, No there is not. But from pushing the power button to ready to brew is typically less than one minute. Marc

[@dvanderbeek]

Can you share the settings you used to make a large latte. The preset is so small? Much appreciated.

[@kingtittyjames]

How do you make the latte to go? Do you have to change another product?

[@CindyChandley]

Mark Do you always use whole milk ? Can you use 1/2 and 1/2? Thoughts?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi rb, I prefer whole milk but have used 2%, skim and non-dairy in Jura machines. I have not used half n half. It's a little thicker so not sure what results might be. If you already have the S8 it will not hurt anything to try. Marc

[@brittanycarpenter8179]

Hey Mark, does the s8 offer a self cleaning mode? Thanks for all your info!

[@yvescrepeau5955]

Hi MArc, I just added a 2023 version of the E6 to my coffee bar , takine delivery on Monday

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Nice! Marc

[@kuldar.]

I really enjoy your channel! Thanks!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Thanks for watching! Marc

[@seachange0111]

HI, I have a Breville Oracle at home (not the touch). It makes awesome coffee, but for work I am wanting a super auto machine for time saving and not having to clean up as much afterwards. Will a machine like this make as good a tasting coffee as my Oracle which obviously is only semi auto... but makes the best coffee I have ever made at home. I've had Gagia and Delonghi super auto's before, but they don't come close to the Oracle. I am hoping that the Jura is right up there with it. Thanks for the many great video's I've watched of yours.

[@leosee7588]

Very good question! Can’t wait Mark comments! Nice machine

[@jasonp.1374]

I just got the S8 about 2 weeks ago. I'm loving it, but it seems your crema amount is greater than mine. Could that be due to the beans you're using compared to mine, the coffee settings, or both?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Jason, Happy to hear you are loving the S8! It may be the beans and/or settings. I was using Maromas Orphea: www.wholelattelove.com/products/maromas-orphea-whole-bean-espresso It's one of my favorite Italian style bean blends and gets wonderful reviews from our customers. It's an easy coffee to work with in semi-automatic and automatic coffee machines. Highly recommended for those newer to home espresso and looking for some crema and nice balanced flavor. I do most of my brewing on semi-automatic machines. When using a full automatic bean to cup hear are the settings I start with. These are regardless of manufacturer: Coffee strength: max, Grind: finest setting, temp highest setting. On a machine like the S8 I'd set volume to ~1.5oz/45ml (if getting buckets of crema include in measurement and go to ~2oz/60ml). Some coffees may choke a machine when grind setting is set to finest. If that happens no big deal just back of the grind setting a notch or two from finest. Hope that helps! Marc

[@jasonp.1374]

@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you for the advice! I will try it out and let you know!

[@KF-dn4gs]

Hi! Just purchased one. What’s your favorite coffee bean?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi KF, Thanks for your question. My current everyday coffee bean is Crema Wave: www.wholelattelove.com/products/whole-latte-love-crema-wave-whole-bean-espresso It's a bean blend of 100% specialty grade Arabica coffees that's micro-roasted roasted locally. If you like classic Italian style bean blends you'll love Crema Wave. Learn more about Crema Wave and 4 more of our favorite coffees in this video " 5 Coffees to Try in 2022": kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGWZcnSGh7qJma8 Marc

[@MwgaGeorge]

Is there any way to set up 2 people with 2 different settings for a cappuccino. I've got 1 setup, but my wife likes it a lot milder?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi GT, Guessing from your other comment you worked out another version of the cappuccino on the phone app for the wife. Another option is to program a latte macchiato with same parameters (lower strength). Both the capp and the lm do the milk first so you can make essentially the same drink. Marc

[@karinmarzullo8501]

How do you change the caffe latte volume in programming

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Karin, Press and hold on the beverage you wish to program for 2 seconds and you will be presented with option to change drink parameters. Here's a link to the S8 manual which describes in more detail: us.jura.com/-/media/global/pdf/manuals-na/Home/S8-2018/download_manual_s8v18_NA.pdf?la=en&hash=F400B8CE866D16A6EA02A988ABA14D92560E5A37&em_force=true Marc

[@Keithers82]

Thanks for the great video. Yeah I'm not sure how to search comments, so I'll just ask. You demonstrated the iPhone, is this compatible with an Android?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Keith, The Jura JOE app is available from Google Play: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.toptronic.joe&hl=en_US&gl=US&pli=1

[@shawnandrews8387]

My wife and I typically take a 20oz travel cup of coffee on the road in the morning, currently we use two Nespresso pods to achieve this. Is there a setting on the Jura S8 that can achieve that volume of coffee?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Shawn, Wow that's a lot of water through 2 Nespresso pods! Max single coffee size on the S8 is 8oz. If you select 2 coffees, you can brew into a single cup for a max of 16oz. Do be aware the 2 cups brewing happens through 16 grams of ground coffee with the machine set to full strength. Most would consider 16g used to make 20oz cup a little light. With the exception of a couple of the newer high-end Jura machines they all do a single grind cycle when selecting 2 cups from the menu. If you want a strong large cup on the S8 you'll want to do 2 single cup brewing cycles so you get 2 grind cycles and a max ground coffee dose of ~32g which is more reasonable for a finished 20oz cup. But maybe you'll be good with the lower coffee dose. Nespresso pods usually have ~6-7g of ground coffee each. If you want it stronger you might consider a Gaggia machine. Select 2 cups on a Gaggia and it automatically runs 2 grind cycles. The Gaggia Cadorna Prestige has Jura like features, lower price and does the 2 grind cycles when 2 cups are selected. Max volume per single coffee on that machine is a little over 8oz: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-cadorna-prestige The new for Q4 2022 Gaggia Accademia is a luxury level machine at similar price to the S8 with even more features: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-accademia Hope that helps! Marc

[@GregSimon]

Marc, do you need to swap out the nozzle every time you want hot water? Or can hot water come out of the main nozzle?

[@LVXIX]

Yes!

[@melissa4455]

I’ve been wanting to know this answer also. The water comes out of the frother on my E8, but it’s not a nice stream of water. It spits and splatters a lot. Do I need to use another nozzle when I do water?

[@SJL2506]

Great review as always Marc! I am considering a J8 or an S8. My question: How does one determine the grinder setting on the S8? If I am understanding correctly, the J8 offers on-screen grinder setting suggestions (and the S8 does not). I am contemplating the significance and price difference between the two. Thoughts?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi M, thanks for the comment and question. Here's a link to my full review of the J8. Link cues to point covering the grinder. Spoiler... it's not a screen programmable grinder: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ_LpoqMn7Wde5osi=BKSoReIsfLga1oOj&t=534 The S8 has a dial for grind adjustment under a cover at top rear. Hope that helps! Marc

[@SJL2506]

Thank you very much!@@Wholelattelovepage

[@KF-dn4gs]

Hi! I’m really enjoying my Jura S8. I always place a cup when the machine is rinsing but the tray is always filled with water. Do you know why?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi KF, The machine does do internal rinsing that goes straight to the tray and not through the spout for some processes. Marc

[@marekjiripotuznik2675]

Hey guys, wanted to ask: we will be getting an automatic for the office and I suggested the Gaggia Accademia 2022, because I´m a Classic Pro owner and I like the brand. However, we might be getting a Jura S8, much to my dismay. Which of those two machines would you say performs better? Even personal preference would be appreciated. The slightly higher price tag of the Gaggia is not an issue.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi MJP, Not sure where you are, but here in US the new Accademia is currently priced below the S8. My preference is for the Accademia. Using the flow control on the Accademia plus the Boost function it's made the best espresso I've ever had from an automatic machine. There's more flexibility making milk drinks on the Accademia. Carafe is simpler/easier than the pickup tube used on the S8 plus you have per drink programmable froth density and the option to manually steam. I like prefer the UI of the Accademia which show all drink parameters and allows one to easily adjust before the drink is made and save as a new drink when it's done. Hope that helps! Marc

[@marekjiripotuznik2675]

@@Wholelattelovepage Hi Marc, thank you so much for getting back to me on such short notice! I´m located in the Czech Republic, where the Accademia is sold at around 43K CZK and the Jura around 40K (so about a 3000 CZK or 150 USD difference). I will definitely pass this on to management, thanks again for this and all the videos you make, they´ve been a big help on my home coffee brewing journey 🙂

[@dsheppard8492]

Just replaced my Empressa F8 with the S8. I have a question regarding the "2xCoffee" function that I hoping you can answer. When I make a single cup everything's great. But when I make two cups, they taste weak. Almost like the machine is dosing coffee for a single cup instead of two. The total ounces in both cups look right, but the coffee is weak. And I don't hear the machine grinding twice for two cups or for any extra length of time. I checked out the used puck and it looks exactly the same size as for the single cup. Thanks for any help.....

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi D, When you make 2x the amount of coffee ground remains the same so you're splitting it to 2 cups instead of it all going to one.

[@polarbear353]

I just realized what I'm getting myself for Christmas this year, thanks Marc!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi PB, You are welcome and merry Christmas to you! Marc

[@chykcha]

Bought this machine partly based on your recommendation, thanks. My milk drinks come out watery and espresso from that spout tastes differently. What’s going on?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi c, Thanks for the question. Regardless of which spout the espresso comes out it's all brewed in the same unit so should be the same unless settings like strength, temperature or liquid volume are set differently. By watery milk drinks do you mean too milky? if so try programming more espresso and or less milk for the drink. Jura machines are very good at not adding water to milk when steaming but that quality can be affected if frothing components are in need of cleaning. hope that helps! Marc

[@chykcha]

@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you for your response! I will try to play w the settings more.

[@matthewfuino2624]

Great demo, thank you!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Glad you liked it and thank you for the comment! Marc

[@jennyzhao6969]

Thanks Marc-great review! I just bought a S8 after watching your video last week. The machine works great but I noticed that there are excessive Amy of water in the drip tray. This morning I measured, for a 2.5 oz of espresso, there was 1.5 water in the drip tray, is it normal? Thanks

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Jenny, Thanks for the kind comment and question. Some water in the drip tray is normal. Amount may vary depending on drinks being made and internal cycles of the machine. 1.5oz is within normal range. Marc

[@jennyzhao6969]

Thanks!

[@annmarienormile1330]

Hi I’m really torn between this and the breville Oracle touch ? I basically will mainly use this for espresso and a regular cup of coffee and occasional cappuccino I’m not a pro by no means and would not be to particular between taste as I am upgrading from a kuerig I have been leaning towards the breville until I recently seen this any tips

[@KalaniJon]

Hi Marc great review as always. I heard you prefer the Gaggia Accadamia over the Jura S8. For me I am not ready to pck either one of them. I love milk based drinks. Coffee drinks from timet to time. Maybe you could of help? Which machine would you choose and some reasons and tips would be appreciated. BTW for me price is not a factor. Thanks.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey MG, Thanks for the kind comment and question. Both are very nice machines. I do think there's more bang for the buck with the Accademia. I tend to do far more coffee/espresso than milk drinks and I have much better control of those on the Accademia with flow control on the spouts and the Boost function which runs a second grind cycle and can do things like add a sweeter ristretto shot to an espresso, Americano etc. I drink a lot of Americanos and the Accademia is by far my favorite automatic for those. I also appreciate the full metal wrap of the Acccademia and the glass front is slick compared to the all plastic housing of the S8. If you do lots of milk drinks you can attach Jura's refrigerated Cool Control to their machines for high capacity milk source that's ready to go all the time. I do find cleaning Jura's pickup tube milk system a little more involved and that cleaning should be done daily. The carafe system of the Accademia does a basic clean of the milk carafe by pushing the spout over and running steam through everything leaving the carafe ready to go back in the fridge and it's good for a day or so. Eventually it will require a deeper cleaning as well. Jura machines do not have to be descaled if you use their in-reservoir filter as directed. The Accademia will need that regardless of filter use. It's not hard to do. Just did that on my Accademia today. Jura machine has slightly higher water capacity and the brew unit is not removable. It's cleaned with tabs dropped in through the ground coffee bypass doser. Same with Accademia but brew unit is removable and should be removed and rinsed weekly. When all is said and done maintenance requirements are fairly equal between the machines. The Accademia does have 4 levels of programmable froth density per drink. Current S8 we have has a manual lever for changing between steamed and frothed milk. I'd choose the Accademia based on value, build and being more coffee than milk drink oriented. That said, I have a Jura ENA 8 at home right now and had a Jura Micro 9 for a few years before that. I have no problem with the coffee from that and I like it's compact size. Here in the studio the Accademia has been a daily driver since last fall. Hope that helps! Marc

[@nasseralharbi5448]

Thank you for the video but i need to ask is there a difference between S8 and S80 also which is better and did you recommend the E8 i mean is it better than the S machines?

[@stevep9691]

Hi Mark is there much difference between the ENA8 and S8 for price difference. Hot coffee is what I crave for, previous seem be luke warm so a very hot coffee is key for me, I did see you suggested the ENA8 over others? Thanks Mark and keep up the great reviews

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Steve, Thanks for the comment and question. The S8 has higher capacities than the ENA8, touch screen control and adjustable milk froth. Coffee brewing process is essentially the same between the machines so picking one over the other is a decision typically based on desired features and aesthetics. The ENA8 for example is a smaller machine with more contemporary design elements. Here's a link to a side by side spec comparison of the machines: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=MTU0NjAzOTgyMDM0Nyw0NDkwMzA2NTg0NjMw These machines will produce a similar temperature coffee. Be aware no super-automatic machine will make boiling hot coffee. They brew internally at 195-205F. By the time the coffee reaches your cup the temperature drops by ~20F with additional variation based on ambient temps and starting cup temp and material type. If looking for a machine that produces hotter than average in cup temps have a look at the Gaggia Cadorna Prestige. It's one of the few machines I turn the temp down from high to medium for coffee. Beyond that it has features like color screen, true Americanos and flat white, milk preparation order flipping by drink type. A bunch of features typically only found on much more expensive Jura machines. And, the Gaggia Cadorna Prestige is priced below the ENA8. Check it out here including in depth video and owner reviews: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-cadorna-prestige Hope that helps! Marc

[@cireasa85]

What would be the best grinder setting for milk based beverages? Thanks in advance for the reply, and keep up the good work. Your reviews really helped me into picking the jura s8

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi SV, Thanks for the question and happy to help. When making espresso for milk based beverages I always set to the finest grind setting. If for some reason the machine chokes (cannot brew) then back off to a slightly coarser setting. Marc

[@gregghilani9812]

Does the S8 make an Cafe Americano?

[@pringlw]

I love this machine. I only wish there was a one touch Americano but I can still get there in two steps.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi BP, Thanks a whole latte for sharing your love of the S8! Marc

[@edob9539]

Can you make Americano with this machine?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi EB, While the S8 does not have a one-touch Americano on the menu you can make one by making an espresso and then adding a programmed amount of hot water from the machine. The Gaggia Cadorna machines do have one-touch Amricanos on the menu. Check them out in this video if interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/moe0hZyhrZqMpsU Marc

[@ginnytr]

Does the Jura bluetooth connect work with home assistants like Alexa or Google Home? Or only on phone?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Ginny, Thanks for the question. Here's a link to information regarding compatibility of the Jura Smart connect: us.jura.com/en/homeproducts/accessories/JOE?US&US-en& Marc

[@ginnytr]

Thank you for the link. Wow, this is one of the worst rated apps I've ever seen for android. Better if have an iphone. And no it won't work with home assistants (Alexa, Google Home), only bluetooth from phone or tablet. Bluetooth means need to be relatively close to machine. Still considering it, though. Also need to program your drink on each device you want to use.

[@drtron1507]

Does it have a water pass through to make americanos? (Even having to make two touches).

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Yes it does! Or, check out the Gaggia Magenta or Cadorna machines which do programmable Americanos in 1 touch. Marc

[@chuckhust749]

I really like the touch screen, ipad integrability, the fact that it can clean itself, and several other features. I am considering purchasing 2 super autos for our coffee stand in order to increase product consistency and increase the number of potential candidates for employment since they will not require as much training vs a semi. My question is: Do you think the Jura S8 or a pair of them are built well enough to handle the workload in a commercial setting? We are open from 5am-3pm weekdays and 5-5 on weekends. If 1-2 of these units Isn't able to handle the work load, can you recommend another unit that has a touch screen, ipad integration, self cleans, has a filter, compartment for pre-ground so we could easily do decaf drinks, and has a milk chiller option. Our girls would LOVE the ipad option that would allow them to load the que with their orders!! PS: We run a bikini stand so super auto is the direction we want to go. Finding young ladies that look the part and can work a semi with ease is not always as easy as it sounds...

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Chuck, Thanks for the question. The S8 is intended for home/office use. It is not a commercial machine. Jura does have some professional level machines like the Giga W3: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/super-automatic-espresso-machines/products/jura-giga-w3-professional The W3 while not a commercial NSF machine is rated to produce 120 drinks per day. It also has larger bean, water and used coffee capacities. Again this is not the type of machine typically put into commercial service. Here's a link to a selection of actual commercial rated super-automatics: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/commercial-products?_=pf&pf_v_brand=Concordia&pf_v_brand=Franke&pf_v_brand=Rancilio%20Egro&pf_v_brand=Schaerer They get pricey quick! Marc

[@flavioinzirillo4858]

Hi Mark, have you measured temperature in the cup? This machine checks all the boxes, my only concern is I like my flat whites hot. I seen your video of the cadorna, but looks wise doesn’t do it for me.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Flavio, Thanks for the question. The Cadorna tends to make hotter milk compared to other machines. I have not measured the in cup temps of a flat white on the S8. I can say milk coming from the spouts will be in the 125-145F range. A bunch of variables affect milk temp. Like temp of source milk, ambient temps, etc. Most super-auto machines are tuned to produce milk temps in the range given above. This because that temp is where milk has its highest apparent sweetness due to heating. It's the same range well trained baristas steam to. For hotter milk drinks a couple of things to do. Preheat the serving cup prior to making a drink, additional heating in microwave after making drink. Marc

[@flavioinzirillo4858]

Thanks Mark, one more question, the ena 8 and s8 heat milk to same temperature?

[@mohammedfa9177]

i have jura s8 machine i can make latte art by the milk system of jura or not ? if yes can you explain it in video please

[@LeeMcArthur]

Hi all. The S8 arrives next week, and I am super pumped. One thing I am trying to figure out: How to extend the range of Bluetooth in the kitchen so that I can order a coffee from the bedroom in the morning. It seems sort of short-sighted of Jura to limit the app connectivity to Bluetooth and 2/3M of distance from the machine. I know the app has a lot of other features not related to making coffee - but, given they have the "orders" option in the JOE app - you know they were heading in the right direction! Has anyone figured out a way to use the JOE app from other rooms in the house, or to use an assistant like Alexa to make a cup of coffee? Thanks!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Lee, Congrats on your new machine! I believe you will find the range is greater than 2-3 meters. Depends on your device running the app and its capabilities but I've been able to use it at more than 10 meters. I have other Bluetooth devices which work at 15 meters like iPhone/AirPods or Bluetooth speaker. Marc

[@jarradrichardson3539]

Have you done a video on the cool control container ?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Jarrad, It's been used in a number of video videos alongside Jura machines but I have not done a video with the Cool Control as the main subject. More info on the Cool Control here: www.wholelattelove.com/products/cool-control-34-oz Or, if in US give our experts a call at 585-924-7170 for more info. Marc

[@bjchin1]

Hi Mark, how do you make an Iced Latte with the Jura S8, is it best just to pour espresso shots over cold and iced milk, or is it better to make a cafe latte and cool it down and pour it over ice?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Bryan, Thanks for the question. Have to be honest I don't do iced lattes but I'd go with espresso shots over cold iced milk. That would present well as the espresso streaks the milk. Marc

[@marlogeorge5477]

How do you do a travel size plain coffee with the Jura S8?The coffee comes out of the middle that has lower clearance. Is there a way to route it to the other spout?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Marlo, You'd have to use a cup which fits under those spouts. The other spout is for milk drinks only. Marc

[@marlogeorge5477]

@@Wholelattelovepage Marc, Thank you so much for getting back so quickly with a response! Thank you, also, for such an informative presentation on the machine’s use. It is very helpful.

[@drtron1507]

Hi! Great video! Is that the Chrome Model or the Moonlight model?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi SG, Thanks for the comment. It's the Chrome model! Marc

[@bethschoenberger1886]

Hi Marc! I sell Jura machines at a kitchen store in Oregon. A customer came in today and said there is so much steam from the coffee and milk that it fogs up the touch screen and the touch screen loses its sensitivity and won't work. He has contacted Jura customer service but they have not been helpful. I've been doing a little research on my own but to no avail yet. Any suggestions or ideas?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Beth, I've used just about every Jura machine made in the last decade including recent models with touchscreen operations. Honestly not a problem I've run into. For videos I'm often making multiple drinks back to back and any condensation (rare) on touchscreens quickly evaporates. Any chance the customer is using in a very humid environment? Taller cups could be conatinin g and focusing rising steam towards a screen. Short of better airflow near the machine, best I can advise is wiping any visible moisture from the screen prior to use. Marc

[@bethschoenberger1886]

Thank you so much for your reply Marc! That is the first time I've heard that too. I will pass that information along. Thanks again!

[@bethschoenberger1886]

By the way, I watch all of your reviews and they are very informative!

[@paul756uk2]

Great review Marc. Jura was the brand I instinctively went to even knowing little about bean to cup machines and this review has endorsed that. I was going to go for an E8 but can't resist this one! I've seen reviews of other brands but this one just seems to resonate with me.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Paul, Thanks for the comment! I've used just about every automatic bean to cup machine available. My favorites for value are the Gaggia Accademia and Babila and many of the Jura machines for design and ease of use. Currently have a Jura ENA Micro 90 at home and use the Babila daily in the studio here at work. Marc

[@greatmusicgoodfeel826]

I am 2 months in with my new Jura S8 with the milk option cooler large and loving it daily. Taste, Ease,Style,Coffee time to enjoy consistency every cup of Java made to taste. Nice feeling EVERY morning . My 3rd but my first Super Auto. For sure the right choice .

[@paul756uk2]

@@greatmusicgoodfeel826 Great choice. It's a lovely machine.We bought ours just before Christmas and we've been more than happy with it (and so have our family and friends)! We have the small cooler and glad we went for that rather than just the jug or thermos option.Only issue has bee that we seem to be getting through filters very quickly. We're on the 7th and don't drink huge amounts. Around 2 or 3 cups a day for 2 of us but Jura have been really good and they've sent us 6 filters free and other bits. They want it back when things get back to normal because they think the metering isn't working properly. We're based in the UK by the way.

[@simonkakon]

@@greatmusicgoodfeel826 Hi the Milk cleaning seem to be a pain, is it necessary to follow all the steps?

[@ErikKruse1]

Been dreaming of a machine like this and am pretty much set on Jura, but after watching your review, I'm thinking I shouldn't wait til retirement age to invest in this kind of machine!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Go for it!

[@jtuds]

Is there a secondary compartment for normal coffee beans so you don’t have to make your drip style coffee with espresso beans? Also, you say this machine is at the high end of Jura’s mid range. What’s above this model?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi JT, Here's a link to all current Jura models arranged in ascending price order: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/super-automatic-espresso-machines?_=pf&pf_v_brand=JURA&sort=price-ascending It's a common misconception that there are specific beans for making espresso. Any bean type can be used for any brew method. I make longer regular cups of coffee from beans I use for espresso too. This Jura machine uses Puklse Extraction Process - PEP when making espresso and turns that off when making larger cups of coffee to avoid over-extracting the beans. Marc

[@rvhextall]

Hi Marc, great review and we did buy this machine a month ago on the back of it and it has been making some lovely coffees so thank you. I do however have a question that I have "Google'd" and can't find an answer to, maybe you know the answer... The machine rinses every time you turn it on and off and every 15 minutes it seems. It rinses from the middle double nozzle. We don't really use this as we make oat milk coffees most of the time so why does it rinse from the middle unused nozzles and therefore, 1. Waste water and 2. Use your filter more than necessary when you haven't even used the middle nozzle? It looks like it's totally clean water coming through so doesn't look like it is doing anything apart from wasting water and your filter. It makes me want to make all my coffees through the centre nozzle and then just add milk foam either before or after the coffee from the nozzle on the right. At least then the rinse process is doing something! What are your thoughts please?

[@robertleckman140]

Hello, Marc. I am interested in the Jura S8 but I am told that the temperature is not that hot and that I probably would be better with an Italian type machine. Watching your demo you seam to drink your cappuccino very quickly confirming the heat problem. Do you have any suggestions for one who loves very hot drinks?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Robert, Thanks for the question. If you want complete control of temperature of milk then semi-auto Italian machines are they way to go. No push button convenience with those like you get on the super-autos but if you are willing to do the work and have a bit of skill then they are capable of higher quality espresso and milk textured and heated to your preference. Another option is a super auto with automatic frothing plus a manual wand like the Gaggia Accademia: www.wholelattelove.com/products/baratza-sette-270wi-conical-burr-grinder or a Gaggia Babila: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-babila-one-touch-coffee-and-espresso-machine With those machine you can have automatically frothed milk or do it manually as hot as you like. Hope that helps! Maec

[@robertleckman140]

@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you for the information. I like your reviews, they are always improving my knowledge, thus improving my favorite beverage.

[@littlebit670]

Is it OK to descale a Jura even if using a filter?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi James, Yes it is okay. But as mentioned not required if using a filter as directed. Marc

[@galenbarnes1116]

Hi Mark, Just unpacked my S8 and my milk system with professional fine foam frother does not look like yours in the video. Your milk tube comes out of the side and mine looks like it comes out of the bottom. However, the machine tells me to insert the fine foam frother which looks like it would attach from the bottom. Thanks for your help.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi GB, Unless you have an older model I'm not aware of the milk tubes always go in the side of the frother. There is a removable piece of the business end of the frother which inserts from the bottom. Marc

[@galenbarnes1116]

@@Wholelattelovepage Marc Thank you. Jura helped me figure out the new machine. Happy mornings now.

[@cassiedulany8268]

I'm trying to make a decision between the white E8 and chrome S8 what are the biggest differences? Is the E8 mostly plastic?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Cassie, Here's a link to a side by side comparison of the machines: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=MjMxMDgwMjIxMDg3MCwxOTY3NTI0MzQ3OTU4 Heads up, like most all super auto machines both are mostly plastic. Big difference with the S8 is touchscreen operation and more drink options. If looking for a machine with a full metal jacket. About the only one out there is the Jura ENA 8 Massive Aluminum: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-ena-8-espresso-machine-aluminum Marc

[@bjchin1]

Hi Mark, overall, which machine would you get. The Jura S8 or the Gaggia Babbila?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Bryan, Thanks for the question. That's a tough question. The S8 is a lot more expensive than the Babila! I think the answer comes down to features that are important to you. Both machines do a fine job. The S8 has a more modern user interface and the ability to change milk froth density with the lever on the milk spout. I used a Babila as a daily driver in the studio for about a year and liked it a lot. It does not have adjustable froth density out of the milk carafe but does have the manual steam wand if you want to go to latte art quality microfoam. Also really like the flow control on the coffee spouts of the Babila. Very useful if you're like me and switch between straight espresso and long coffee. Restrict flow for espresso and increase flow for long coffee. The S8 accomplishes much the same thing using pulse extraction for espresso beverages and turning off the pulse for long coffee. The Babila is a more solid build IMO and the Jura is about convenience of opertion. Use the in reservoir filter and no descaling. Also no brew group to remove. Use a cleaning tablet inserted into bypass doser for cleaning the group. I don't do a lot of milk drinks but prefer the carafe system of the Babila to the pickup tube used on the S8. The Babila's carafe does a steam cleaning when the spout is pushed over leaving it ready to go back in fridge until next use. You still need to take apart for a more thorough cleaning 1x week or so. The Jura does a quick clean of the milk components but should really have a deeper cleaning after use every day. It's not hard but a little more involved. Don't know if I'm helping much and in case you missed it here's a link to my review of the Babila: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4WYgKCcf9eDf7M Marc

[@serbianfinest1]

Jura s8 or saeco xelsis need help choosing the better one which one is better and which one has more or better options

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi sf, I prefer the S8 and you can see it in 3D/AR here: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-s8-chrome-espresso-machine Better design, far easier to use and a lot more features including optional smart connect to control machine and make custom drink with Jura's J.O.E. app for smartphones and tablets. Marc

[@serbianfinest1]

@@Wholelattelovepage thank you for the reply so the jura s8 is better over all and u think it easier to maintain and clean than saeco right.

[@ramsayzaki]

@@Wholelattelovepage I am also comparing these two. The ONLY thing that concerns me about the Jura is the milk cleaning process. I need something easy/quick and Jura's process with their cup/chemical seems overly complicated to me. :-( Mark... thoughts?

[@dano9176]

Hi Mark, leaning towards the S8. Why is there hundreds of dollars difference in price based on the color? Are they not all the same machine?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Dan, They are all the same machine. Not sure why the price difference. Must be some variations cost more to produce. Regardless of color function and capabilites are the same. Marc

[@cleorarichmond7231]

You have some great reviews! I’m looking for a machine and you have made it too hard with all your wonderful reviews...so...which machine would you say is the best for quality of espresso and quality of machine? Anywhere between $1500 and $2500?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey cleora, Thanks for the kind comment and question. So here's a link to every machine currently in your price range: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/super-automatic-espresso-machines?_=pf&pf_p_price=1500%3A2500&sort=price-ascending Of the bunch my all around favorite is the Gaggia Cadorna Prestige. Has features of much more expensive Jura machines. IMO it's the best bang for the buck and espresso quality on par with all the others with possible exception of the Gaggia Babila which has flow control on the spouts and better grind setting range for more fine tuning of espresso. Hope that helps! Marc

[@PaulAdrianTeam]

I have the same Jura S8 .I don t have the option for latte to go

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Adrian, Are you sure it's the same S8? A previous version of the S8 has a dial to control milk froth type. That machine did not have the latte to go option. Marc

[@floatingbricks7411]

Hi mark, really love your reviews I am looking at buying the s8 thanks to you. Could you please tell me with all your experience what would you choose between the Jura s8 or the breville Oracle one touch? I really want a fully auto but don’t want to be disappointed if you know what I mean. Thanks so much in advance mate. Cheers Dan

[@georgesargiss6730]

Jura vs gaggia prestige Price is not a issue Which is a better unit in your opinion ?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi George, Thanks for the question. IMO if you are more of a straight coffee or espresso drinker I'd go with the Gaggia Cadorna Prestige - it can make true Americanos. If you are more about the milk drinks then maybe the Jura with its adjustable froth density. That said the Cadorna Prestige does have more milk drink options Marc

[@playingwithunow]

Hi Mark, Our Jura Impressa J9 just gave up the ghost after 6 years of excellent service. I’d like to replace it (it’s going to be my husband’s birthday gift) and would like to know if you think this would be the best upgraded replacement for that machine? Thanks, and great, informative video!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi playing, Thanks for the question. If you liked your J9 you will like the S8. It's a similar machine with upgrades like better frothing, upgraded grinder, Pulse Extraction process (PEP) for deeper espresso extraction and intelligent water system for no hassle filter replacement. With those new features it's a step up from the J9. Marc

[@playingwithunow]

Whole Latte Love Thanks so much, Marc! I will get it for my husband.

[@gabbysandoval-flores3788]

Hello Whole Latte Love - Just got the Jura S8 and loving it! I want to create a new item like you demonstrated for Large Latte to Go and wanted to ask what were your settings? what was your coffee strength, amount of water, temperature, and amount of milk?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Gabby, Happy to hear you are loving your S8 and thanks for the question. My personal preference is to always do espresso at full strength and highest temperature, depending on bean type used I have my grinder set at or near the finest setting. Amount of water and milk depends on the cup. Traditional latte is 1 part espresso to 5 parts milk. So if using say a 12oz/360ml cup use 2oz/60ml espresso and set milk timing to nearly fill your cup. A bit of trial and error with finding the right milk timing as milk type and froth setting affect in cup volume. Hope that helps! Marc

[@HYGGE263]

Is jura s8 is appropriate for home use, making 2,3 cups coffee a day?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey AT, Thanks for the question. Yes the Jura S8 is very appropriate for home use and can easily do 2-3 cups a day. Actually can do far more than that! Marc

[@jamiepapirnik3434]

Morning, can I make a Cortado using the Jura S8? If not, which Jura machine will? thank you

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Jamie, Thanks for the question. The S8 does not have a Cortado on the menu but it does have a flat white which uses a similar prep method. One can program a 2oz/60ml espresso shot followed by about 1oz/30ml of steamed or foamed milk on the S8 to make a cortado. Marc

[@jamiepapirnik3434]

@@Wholelattelovepage thank you

[@johncandido2241]

That Jura is Awesome.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi John, Thanks for the comment! Marc

[@johnf1973]

Hi mark I have recently purchased this jura s8 machine which is great however I'm struggling to get the coffee water and milk ratio for a cafe latte do you have any any tips for getting the perfect drinks form this machine.i have the coffee bean strength at 9 beans but I feel the taste is a little weak,maybe too much milk or too much water.?? I'm trying to make a large latte to go. Even do a video on on various drinks on this machine for the perfect taste would be great. Thanks.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi John, Thanks for the request. A typical Latte uses a 1:5 espresso to milk ratio. Sounds you might be like me and prefer a beverage which features the espresso more than the milk? My favorite is the flat white which typically uses a 1:2 ratio. A few tips... For a stronger/bolder espresso set the grinder to a fine setting. Set espresso strength to max. You can get a latte with more espresso by making 2 into a single large to go cup. Don't know your cup size but let's say your using a 10oz/300ml cup. setup a single latte to make a 1oz/30ml espresso plus 4oz/120ml milk. That'll get you to a 1:4 ratio and brew it 2 times into the same 10oz cup. Another option, make a single espresso into cup then make the latte over top of that. Marc

[@johnf1973]

@@Wholelattelovepage ,hi Thanks for your reply and info on the S8 . I'll mess around to get the best drink. 👍

[@johnf1973]

Hi I meant to say earlier that I've noticed a metallic metal taste from my coffee. Have you ever experienced this?

[@Ayeayeaye614]

Brand new machine why does it tell you to clean the milk after 2 coffees?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi df, Thanks for the question. If you made a milk drink it will always ask you to clean for hygienic reasons. Marc

[@musomaster9027]

Hi it looks like the espresso is run through very quickly. Can you slow down the rest of extraction?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi MM, Shot timing does not apply to automatic machines like it does to semi-autos.

[@fozya.h.a5062]

Can i make tea 🍵/ black tea or tea with milk with this jura s8

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi pt, Thanks for the question. The S8 can output hot water for tea brewing. Then you could add either steamed or frothed milk - even progrsam the amount of milk you want. Marc

[@fozya.h.a5062]

@@Wholelattelovepage what about putting tea powder in to the mechine instead of coffee powder?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

@@fozya.h.a5062 not something I’ve tried nor heard of anyone doing.

[@urgedmoon]

the future is here ! How much extra money for the blutooth ?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi u, Thanks for the question. Here's a link to current pricing for Jura's Smart Connect: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-smart-connect-bluetooth-adapter Marc

[@urgedmoon]

@@Wholelattelovepage Hi Marc! Thanks for the answer and the review. Its brilliant and very informative! Uhm one last thing do you think If I get the connector is it possible for me to install it by myself? Thanks in advance

[@nurhansayan4202]

Hi can u please tell me the difference between S8 vs S80 thank u

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi NS, Thanks for the question. They are very similar and in fact share the same manual. S8 is just a more recent version of the machine. To the best of my knowledge the S8 replaces the S80 model designation which is no longer made. Hope that helps! Marc

[@brianjoitescu]

Just purchased the S8 from you guys. I'm trying to get my settings right for a 16oz/473mL to-go caffe latte. My current settings are: Grind size: 1 click from finest setting Coffee strength: 4 out of 5 beans Volume: 3.0oz/89mL Milk: 45 sec. of whole milk Temperature: High What would you change, if anything? My goal is to fill the cup to the brim while providing the right flavor. :)

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi J, Thanks for your patronage and question. 16oz is a large latte! IMO your grind setting setting is perfect. I tend to go with highest strength setting when making an espresso or milk-based espresso beverage like a latte. Latte's are traditionally made using a 1:5 espresso to milk ratio so you're on track with 3oz of espresso. It comes down to personal flavor preference but if I were making that large a latte I would probably use 2 brew cycles to up the espresso intensity. So I'd setup the programming to make a 1.5oz espresso plus enough time on the milk to get a total of 8oz. Then make that two times. Another option is to brew a single strong espresso of 1.5oz. Then program your latte to make another 1.5 oz of espresso with the same milk setting. In the end tune to your personal flavor preference. I personally prefer milk-based beverages with higher espresso to milk ratio like flat white or cortado in the 1:2 - 1:3 espresso to milk ratio. Hope that helps! Marc

[@mterry3788]

Sorry if this has already been asked but... Does the machine really clean itself after every drink after 15 minutes of it not being in use and require a cup underneath or can you let it go into the drip tray? Also is there an auto on feature so it's already warm by the time you come down stairs for work? Cheers! Also one of the best product reviews I've seen to date!! Subscribed!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Matt, Thanks for subscribing, your kind comment and question. The machine does a rinse cycle on startup and shutdown to help clean the internal coffee circuit. You can let this rinse go into the drip tray. Some people will put a cup under the spouts to catch the rinse but it's not required. No auto on feature on this machine or any other super-automatic I can think of. When you power the machine on it warms up for about 30 seconds, does the rinse and then it's ready to use. Marc

[@donnellbryan3265]

Does this device work with Alexa or Android phones

[@fozya.h.a5062]

Where should be the sugar added???

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi pt, One would add sugar after drink is made. I'm not aware of any non-commercial super-auto machines which add sugar. Marc

[@thefonz7838]

Thanks mark very detailed information helped me understand this machine. This is a great machine ! And by the way MARK YOUR A STAR !

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Brad, Thanks for the comment! Lol, not a star...just have a passion for coffee! Marc

[@canadianbear6009]

Hi Mark. I just recently purchased the Jura S8. It’s been said that if you’re going to make an espresso you turn the grind setting to fine & if you’re going to make a cup of coffee you set it to course. What about the rest of the coffees ? Like a macchiato or a Flat White ? Jura should make recommendations as to how to set your grind settings for each of the coffees that they have listed on this machine.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi CB, Many Jura machines use a pulse extraction process when making espresso and do not use PEP when making regular coffee. I have a Jura ENA Micro 90 at home which has the PEP feature. I make both espresso and long coffees on the machine and leave the grind set to fine for everything and let the automatic PEP on/off take core of things. My espresso extracts well and long coffee does not get over-extracted. On Jura machines with PEP it will be used automatically by the machine for espresso based beverages like the macchiato and flat white. With that there no need to change grind size. Marc

[@danachiu2714]

This is helpful, Marc...We just got our S8 a couple weeks ago and I use a mix of Lavazza whole beans (1/3 Super Crema; 2/3 Dek decaf) in the hopper. When making an espresso on maximum bean strength setting, it tastes a bit sour, but adjusting the grinder down to coarser settings I'm not able to get rid of the sour taste...any suggestions? At this point, is it the beans?

[@bd89117]

Hi Marc, thanks for the great review and pushed me to invest in the Jura S8. What an awesome machine!! I have one question for you. I purchased the smart connect and hooked it up through my iPhone. I want to be able to make a cup of coffee from bed in the morning. Can I turn the machine on from my iPhone? Obviously I have to have a cup under the spouts to catch the coffee. I notice when the machine turns on it rinses the mechanism. How do I avoid the rinse from going in my coffee cup before I brew? Thanks.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi b, Thanks for the comment. You cannot turn the machine on from your phone. For the BT to work the machine must be on already. You might be able to leave the machine on night before so it's ready to go in the morning. It has an auto shut off feature with max on time of 9 hours. Marc

[@shelleyfl]

I have the opportunity to buy a preowned one for $400 from a private seller. Is this still considered a good machine? Any red flags I should look for?

[@shelleyfl]

Actually the one I'm looking at is the IMPRESSA S 8, used $400. Still a good machine?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Shelley, That's a fabulous price - in the to good to be true category which would be a red flag for me. But you never know. I'd want to know about how much the machine was used and how good the seller was at doing the routine maintenance. The machine with proper care should be cable of well over 10,000 brew cycles. Most common cause of problems in this type of machine is failure to use the water filter and then failing to descale when the machine alerts it's time to do so. If the in-tank water filter is used and changed as requested by the machine then descaling is never required. If seller says they always used a filter (and you believe them) then scale build up in the machine should not be a problem. Other important maintenance is using the brew unit cleaning tablets when the machine advises to do so. I'd ask if this was done. If answers are good and you believe the seller then it might be a good deal! Marc

[@shelleyfl]

@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for your response . Hard to know- he said he purchased it from an estate auction 5 years ago and reportedly had little use. Then he used it for 2 - 2.5 years before upgrading, approx 2 cups coffee/day. It's been sitting for last 2.5 years. With all the variables you mentioned, I think I'll pass! Thanks!

[@marcusbuckman2871]

@@shelleyfl Sounds like a wise choice! Marc

[@buckaroo1504]

Anyone knows how to program an americano on the S8? Thanks in advance!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey buck, The S8 does not have Americano as a one touch drink. But you can make one in 2 steps. Make an espresso then add hot water from the machine over the top. Typical Americano is 1 part espresso to 2 parts hot water. So program your espresso to say 2oz/60ml and program hot water to 4oz/120ml. You can adjust volumes to suit your taste preference. For the Espresso I set the grinder to its finest setting, strength to max and temperature to high. Here again you can adjust to suit your flavor or strength preference. Hope that helps! Marc

[@rickgardner8254]

Marc, I have the exact machine and milk cooler used in your video. Is it possible to use heavy whipping cream vs milk or half and half in this system with good results? I just purchased the machine today and had little luck with the various milk drinks using the heavy whipping cream. What are your thoughts?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Rick, Nice setup! As you've discovered automatic frothing does not do well with heavy cream. It's designed to produce best results with regular whole fat milk. Marc

[@iSarpedon]

Thank you for the review. I’m currently using the Gaggia Brera, but I feel it’s time for an upgrade. How does the thickness/richness of the espresso from this machine compare to the Brera? Also, can this machine dispense a cup of plain hot water (my Brera is often used for tea as well)? Thank you again.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi IR, You are welcome! Espresso from the S8 can be a hair richer with Jura's PEP brewing process which pulses water through the coffee for deeper extraction. You'll have more control of strength as well. Marc

[@jjs8046]

I own S80 and in my opinion, that version is simply better-looking.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi JJ, Thanks for sharing your opinion! Marc

[@CrustyCurmudgeon]

Fantastic presentation Marc - a couple of questions. It appears that the S8 doesn't have a setting for an Americano. Could you do that in two steps, first creating an espresso under the center taps and then adding hot water on the right side? Also - if you rename a menu item, does that new config become a new option in the menu, or does it just replace the original? Finally, if there were two or more people using the JOE app on their phones, but linked to a single S8, could they all create their custom mixes for their drinks, and the S8 would adjust accordingly? Hope that makes sense. Thank you!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi CC, Thanks for the the questions and your kind comment! Yes you can definitely do an American in two steps as you describe. I have an older Jura ENA Micro 90 at home and do exactly that. Renaming would replace the item renamed. If two or more people are using the machine only one instance of the app can connect to the machine at a time. But you can have your own drinks stored within the app which do not affect drinks other have stored on their device/app. If you want a machine which does true one-touch Americanos have a look at the Gaggia Cadorna Prestige: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-cadorna-prestige It does not have app control but has 4 individual user profiles on the machine so you can store 4 variations of each drink. The Cadorna Prestige is our daily driver in the studio. Makes wonderfull milk drinks including true double shot flat whites using up to 23g coffee dose. Marc

[@CrustyCurmudgeon]

@@Wholelattelovepage Marc, I just took up your recommendation and placed an order with you for the Cadorna Prestige Zebrano. It was high on my list before you mentioned it in your comments, but after a few weeks of research that helped me refocus and decide. Looking forward to the new toy!

[@mohammedalmatalqa7954]

Plssssss find me a solution im from qatar and i want 3 machines but in the website they said that can offer only 120V but i need 240V .. they give me a link for UAE but as politics cuz im from qatar i cant order from UAE so what to do Pls someone find me solution as all converters do not recommend to work with coffee machines

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi MA, Try locating a dealer for your region here: www.gaggia.com/worldwide-en/