REVIEW - MOZA Racing Vision GS

[@RyKnocks]

Fanatec has had this wheel in development for like 3 years now lol. Probably priced 3x higher too. Great job Moza for pushing the envelope!

[@snippidippi]

Was thinking the same 😂 thought like 1500-1900€ for that fanatec wheel. Their buttonbox rally wheel is at 700€ and that's insane for a simple wheel like that 😮

[@matthieuhuegi807]

Unfair copy! Moza, which is a photography hardware maker enterprise at first, is producing Fanatec gears since years now. When they decided to jump onto the Sim Racing market, they slowed down Fanatec’s productions, and copied what they were producing for them. They don’t deserve anything except being effective in the production. Copy is a common thing in the history of Chinese productions.

[@snippidippi]

@matthieuhuegi807 not really unfair as fanatec have showed teaser pictures of their wheel in a 3 year time and haven't created it yet so was pretty easy grab for monza

[@matthieuhuegi807]

@@snippidippibecause some parts were produced by Moza (indirectly).

[@matthieuhuegi807]

For those who don’t know, the shape is inspired by Porsche’s Vision GT steering wheel. (Which is not a problem, as there is no competition)

[@MILITENTREBEL]

Wow how is this out befor the Bentley rim from fanatec 😂

[@boostedmedia]

Fanatec have told me they want the software to be as near perfect as possible before releasing it. There's a few things on the software side that could use some refinement on the Moza VGS :)

[@1armbiker]

@@boostedmediaspeaking of Fanatec, what exactly is going on over there? I saw their inventory problems seem to mostly be resolved on their site, but did that Corsair deal go through, is that under litigation or review or something?

[@boostedmedia]

@1armbiker I’m honestly not sure but they’ve told me there will be news in the next few weeks.

[@RyKnocks]

@@boostedmedia Software can always be refund via software updates. Fanatec left themselves open and Moza swooped in. I can’t imagine there’s a big demographic for what’s likely to be a $1500+ wheel.

[@lee986]

​@@boostedmedia LOL...Based on Fanatec taking YEARS to fix the firmware for their DD wheelbases, if we're waiting for the Bentley wheel to be 'ready' before release they'll probably have changed ownership from Corsair to Moza before it gets released 🤣🤣

[@AyaxRo]

WOW!.. So glad Im sticking with MOZA.

[@V-Racing]

I think if the Moza badge wasn't on that wheel, then it would cost 1000+ dollars

[@Sithhy]

I mean, if Fanatec were to come out with theirs, it would probably cost twice as much

[@FcoEnriquePerez]

@@Sithhy And have twice the RMAs lol

[@NPCLiam]

Awesome video, Will. I absolutely love how this wheel is looking. Seems like MOZA is stepping out into a different design language and I can't wait to see what kind of fun comes from people putting that dash customizer to work. Cheers, man.

[@ekisofh2]

I wonder why they didn't just use inverted wheel input for screen rotation instead of the gyroscope, it probably would have been much smoother

[@boostedmedia]

Would mean it would only work with Moza bases

[@Sithhy]

Most likely so that they can keep compatibility with other wheelbases

[@stefanschuchardt5734]

Use both methods?

[@JayKBra]

Damn, I love this thing... Shocked at how well they put it all together, first Moza product for me. Tickle me genuinely impressed... Thanks again for your product walk thru video, that vid put a bow on the post-installation set-up experience for me. Cheers, Jay

[@aker2KK]

thanks for thee review, WOW, what impressed me the most is the dash editor. that's really cool, i hope it becomes avaiable fo the dash screens and fot FSR-f1 wheel as well. And good for MOZA they have been releasing good products like this wheel, the truck wheel and the Flight controls.

[@SingermanRyun]

Okay, I’ve always scratched my head about the obsession around the kislux book totes and their practicality, but this one is adorable!! Congratulations

[@hie104]

Moza Is so ahead of the game now, the innovation they have brought to our hobby is insane

[@silvercarbin-q8666]

chill brother chill

[@thumpermike269]

If only the GS was a universal wheel.

[@mrmidnight32]

I swear people who say this have never used Moza, or have never used anything else comparable. Moza is price comparable. It’s a budget base and wheel that was overrated NM wise from the get go to sell based off numbers. They have their place but I hate that people over hype it like crazy cause again that’s all they’ve used or act like they change the game when they dont

[@filipivan5125]

@@mrmidnight32 u are not wrong. But before Moza came into the market the budget racing was fanatec or no DD.

[@Gizfreek]

@@filipivan5125 could we all just be happy that competition brought us awesome hardware in the last few years, it's good to have brands trying to one up each other all the time.

[@aracerofsorts]

Th reviews, the quality...all top tier stuff. Just think the studio is too dark makes it a little hard to see the products.

[@taylor_mills]

Great review, Will! Thank you! I don't think the wheel is for me as I prefer the realism of a proper formula rim and such but it is a gorgeous wheel and it's really impressive that Moza developed and released the Fanatec Bentley rim before Fanatec rim. I think the one point we disagree on is the lack of SimHub support. Whilst I agree exclusively having to use SimHub perhaps isn't ideal, I do feel like Moza are missing out by not having that as an option. Personally, I want the ability to push the dashboard I use in iRacing to the screen in a wheel and you can't do that with Moza right now. If have to essentially make my own version. I'm hoping it's something they change in the future so it's doable but for now, that lack of SumHub functionality does have me looking elsewhere.

[@boostedmedia]

Thanks mate. I agree with you. I think it’s good that it doesn’t rely on Simhub, but it would be nice if it was an option.

[@baaaastiii]

There are some Vision cars in Grant Turismoa which have a wheel equal to this one. Nice review and good job from Moza!

[@rchatte100]

I've used fanatec stuff for approx 15 years. Seriously thinking of switching to Moza. 3 yrs + and no Bentley wheel!

[@WaskiLP]

So this half finished wheel is better than having none? Would you buy this with the amount of lag the screen has?

[@rchatte100]

@@WaskiLP It's not half finished, the lag is minimal, you dont notice while racing as Will said.

[@WaskiLP]

@@rchatte100 when you don't notice the lag you don't notice the screen generally which makes it useless in the first place

[@Arguyle20]

​@@WaskiLP you look at your screen on entry and exit? You are not listening. The screen rotation feature is actually very innovative and as far as I know, the only one on the market.

[@MomedicsChannel]

The Bentley wheel ended with Bentleys GT3 program

[@Arguyle20]

Wow. I'm impressed with Moza. I won't personally buy it just because I already spent top dollars for another 3rd party wheel, but I like the innovation look on this one. I have Moza R12, KS and RS on a secondary rig and I love it! They really have a nice looking wheel for all driving type, at a fair price (a.k.a. lower than competition). If you look to start simracing, i highly recommend Moza!

[@GRAS_gadgetsRepairAISimulators]

I'd like to see a round wheel with the round display.

[@viatrufka]

For me all those features those pricier steering wheels have are mainly for show. It's always better to show any racing information as an overlay on your main screen. Looking anywhere else than the most distant racingline point makes you slower.

[@RJR981]

have you had the bentley wheel for a while Will? or was that recent just looking for some hope that it will be released one day soon haha.

[@boostedmedia]

I've had it for a few months now but don't have software so havent been able to use it at all. Its just been sitting in the box the whole time.

[@RJR981]

@@boostedmedia Wild bit of kit mate sucks your not able to use it. that must be painful haha one lucky man. momo said it should've been released before Christmas last year. fingers crossed its this year.

[@X1erra]

Simagic may have the better motors but Moza's got the drip, and they're usually the first to come in the price range, like the KS wheel, and now GS Vision. Whoever's holding for that Bentley wheel have a strong alternative now, and it's customizable too! :)

[@GridGladiator]

Tbh seeing more of Mozas products and how their pricing goes it’s really making me want to switch to them from Fanatec when I upgrade from my CSL DD 8nm

[@kartzzy6101]

this seems like a slightly worse gt neo with a cool dash display inserted.

[@boostedmedia]

That’s a pretty accurate assessment

[@likilikiki]

Good or bad it's a bloody sexy wheel.

[@rudyg323]

Such a beautiful steering wheel. I wish Fanatec had this wheel. The Bentley Vision they have looks cool but not as cool as this one on my opinion.

[@kevinstevens3429]

I like the idea of the gyroscopic display. I have a GSI Hyper P1 and it is an excellent wheel, but I always felt it foolish that the display turns the direction you turn the wheel, even the real F1 wheels with displays do this. It made me by a fixed DDU for my rig to go with my other rims. I’m surprised a Gyroscopic display hasn’t been implemented sooner.

[@lugs118]

The price is far higher than it should be for quality of materials. Fake leather, squeaky springs on the analog paddles, hollow sounding shifters. They need to get the basic stuff better rather than just adding lights and screens.

[@Sithhy]

I mean, if Fanatec were to come out with theirs, it would probably cost twice as much for the same quality of materials

[@lugs118]

@@Sithhyhaving escaped from the Fanatec eco system I wouldn’t be interested in their Bentley wheel, but you are probably correct about costing twice as much. The Fanatec Magnetic shifters and Advanced Paddle Module are better than the Moza equivalent.

[@groundhabit6408]

Been waiting for this review

[@CANheSE3me]

I really would like to have a review of the Simagic FX-Pro I have been looking for it on your channel and looks like it has not been done yet. Something we can do? New to the sim world and looking to buy my first wheel. There isn't a lot of Simagic FX -Pro wheel reviews out there.

[@boosivemotorsportofficial]

It's actually quite cheap. I bet the Fanatec version is at least double the price of this.

[@Takovacs]

The major feedback I always see about Moza screens is wanting SimHub compatibility. It doesn't feel the plus that it is made out to be here to be within the Moza ecosystem alone.

[@SimBunker]

With todays tech, there's really no need to rely on a gyro to centre the text while steering. The physical display could easily stay put, and the wheel rotates around the display, slip rings have been around for years, could have implemented this just to have that polished finish of a perfectly level display at all times.

[@hacim7100]

Or even digital rotation based on wheel rotation

[@CRE4MPIE]

How are the tumbsticks ? I bought a FSR wheel and one of the sticks broke within a week of using it. Instead of using some cheap plastic they coulda done machined allumunium, i mean especialy at that price point ?

[@Julf-]

That wheel looks SO much like an upgraded GT Neo

[@Mako19298]

Hi. I have a question: does the Fanatec extreme steering wheel match the Fanatec GT DD Pro base?

[@robinjobidon]

I would like to see you try the mvh bash pro h shifter. A crazy unit that need to be knowed! Plz, take a look!

[@kevinstevens3429]

Don’t like the wheel design, but I do like the idea of the gyroscopic display. I have a GSI Hyper P1 and it is an excellent wheel, but I always felt it foolish that the display turns the direction you turn the wheel, even the real F1 wheels with displays do this. It made me by a fixed DDU for my rig to go with my other rims. I’m surprised a Gyroscopic display hasn’t been implemented sooner.

[@ArtyI]

Are you going to be looking at the Mercedes F1 replica wheel when that comes out? I won(?) a bet and have to order one now

[@KCnoob7]

Please always mention whether we are reuired to run the software in the background for full functionality of the peripheral. We already have so many apps running while simracing that the manufacturers that require us to have it running despite an integratet storage should be called out for it. Now I am pretty sure that moza hardware always needs the software running, but it still would be nice just to make a short mention.

[@robertcarr4172]

Geez it looks awesome

[@vandrayketv1316]

Omg it’s so beautiful 😍 I have to have one!!

[@mihalis1010]

@16:37 I have been having the same issue with my KS in iRacing. Not sure what's causing it. I was having issues with the new telemetry functions they've recently added as well. Haven't tried it in ACC yet.

[@TheFrontyer]

Should be at least half the price

[@Sithhy]

I mean, if Fanatec were to come out with theirs, it would probably cost twice as much

[@TheFrontyer]

@@Sithhy No it would not. Fanatec is peiced pretty fair, at pr with or less then Moza is at the moment. If fanatec did that wheel I am sure it would be in the same range. Regardless whatever another company would do is irrelevant. The relevant factor here is the wheel, its features and the price for them. This wheel is basically a KS, but with a small screen, for three times the price of the KS.

[@jevgenijbogdasic7165]

It looks more like a Fanatecs Upcoming Project Porsche Vision GT steering wheel rather than bentley only similarity to bentley would be the oval screen.

[@tigerbalm666]

Dam, that is wild!

[@StoneHillRally]

I wish Moza would have an usb option so you can use the wheel on other DD bases 😊

[@Sithhy]

You can use it on other wheelbases, you just need to buy their adapter kit

[@Manc268]

hope they proiritised build quality over the flashy lights..

[@TheRealTyphon]

It’s Moza the build quality is very good across all the products I’ve used for its price.

[@Trouble_F1]

We got the goofiest sim wheel before gta 6

[@Gizfreek]

Looks good but I'm not a fan of that kind of display on the wheel. Is is as laggy as shown in the video or does it only look like that when filmed? 60Hz is not that great when it comes to fast movement BUT having a screen on the wheel is not my prefered option so who am I to judge?

[@boostedmedia]

It’s as laggy as it looks in the video.

[@shebert29]

I follow your channel, I've always liked your reviews. But unfortunately you don't have to deal with Moza's after the sales customer service, because the products you review are sent to you at no charge. I personally bought the R12 base about 2 weeks ago, when it arrived, one of the mounting holes would not allow the provided screws to be used to mount it. This is a 12nm wheel base, so I would think, using 4 screws would be safer than 3. When I contacted Moza about this issue, their response was, well sorry Quality missed that on a $600 base, but you go ahead and keep it for your use. When I asked what does keep it for my usage mean?, they offered me an SR-P lite brake upgrade kit. I don't own an SR-P lite pedal set, so then they offered me a 5% discount on my next purchase. I'm told them, keep the discount, I'm done with these games, I just want a fully working R12 base. So I told them as well that I will comment on every single KZbin video about Moza Products unless they rectify the problem. So please don't delete my comment, let others see it, so they know what kind of service they may get after they purchase Moza products. Thanks again for your videos.

[@herlegz6969]

Now if that could plug into a DD+ base for Gran Turismo 7 and see it in PlayStation VR, that would be Aaeewweeeesome!

[@V-Racing]

You can probably achieve that using a 3rd party adapter that tricks the wheelbase onto thinking you are using a fanatec wheel

[@herlegz6969]

@@V-Racing they're just basically USB connections, seems basic electrical engineering solutions should exist.

[@Sithhy]

You just need to buy the silly expensive Fanatec adapter so that you can attach other wheels to it & then buy the Moza adapter kit so that you can attach this Moza wheel to your wheelbase

[@herlegz6969]

@@Sithhy sexy expensive fanatec adapter didn't find anything when googling. Got a part number?

[@Sithhy]

@@herlegz6969 It's the Fanatec Podium Hub

[@farquaf.4417]

Crazy looking wheel, idk how to feel abt it

[@9PoLkovNik9]

Can you please make a video simagic ds-8x VS moza hgp

[@SpatialDragon]

I am 100% Fanatec and love it. That does not mean I have to hate Moza or need point out that they don't release a new wheel each month like the Fanatec Derangement Syndrome guys are shrieking about Fanatec. That is all stupid and does not help anyone. Let Moza make their PC and Xbox maybe wheels and bases. That creates more equipment which should bring all the prices down. BTW, this wheel does not look anything like the Bentley wheel. Plus it does not even say Bentley.

[@Alienixon]

work with r3 base?

[@Gjohn28]

I’m intrigued

[@BadWallaby]

The refresh rate must be super low on that dash lol

[@massimo3860]

MOZA BE AWARE, i bought the r9 wheel and ks wheel kombo plus the srp wheels, other than paying more than 100euro for shipping they declared the wrong value of the product to customs and now im facing a fine!!

[@NIKO15618]

but I don't think the center screen is much use

[@m4onboard]

U that think look stunning m8 , but totally useful on VR , Moza better that Fanatec at the moment ?

[@Sithhy]

Seeing what Fanatec has been going through recently, I'd say Moza or Simagic

[@Mancitydiehard]

I would switch to moza if they didn’t only have the tiny crappy wheel for console. Their eco system is just better than Fanatec not to mention they have secondary dash screens.

[@Ryzza5]

That rim costs as much as my Fanatec CSR Elite wheel with Clubsport pedals.

[@Sithhy]

I mean, if Fanatec were to come out with theirs, it would probably cost twice as much

[@johnhemelrijk]

Can you tel me wat wheels have throttle brake support

[@nick-dm3if]

This will be the least sold wheel lol

[@veizii6096]

someone help!! ive been stuck deciding bewteen moza and simagic

[@Kryptix0III]

cool

[@calirprios]

Fanatec is doomed 😂😂😂 Moza has been around for 2 years and my friend who is just starting out sim racing asked what should I get for long term (he has tried my setup and likes it) and I screamed MOZA😂

[@T_FALCON]

We got a Gyro Dash before GTA6.

[@JWM-oz4os]

Hey Will, could you please do some NASCAR Road Racing??

[@schnurrfpv4594]

I like the screen and color of it but the shape is weird.

[@O-Friendly]

The only thing that holds me back from buying Moza. Is the fact that it's not compatible with PlayStation without a 3rd party hardware. I would toss my Fanatec if Moza was compatible.

[@bl41rr54]

Will the dash maker be coming to the FSR wheel ?

[@boostedmedia]

Apparently they said on their discord that it’s not going to be compatible due to hardware limitations.

[@bl41rr54]

@@boostedmediathat’s a real shame seems like such a great thing that everyone has been wanting

[@bl41rr54]

I wonder if it’s a built in limitation or a software limitation

[@f1ibraaa]

That was quickkk

[@CaptHotah]

Still no ps5 compatibility?

[@tonyf9076]

Looks like an old Cessna yoke...

[@Pedster9]

Ngl but the Bentley wheel looks better imo.

[@Mysta-Kun]

I'm sorry but the fps difference between your cameras are geeking me out 😭

[@boostedmedia]

Was wondering if anyone would notice. We just upgraded our main camera, previously both were 4K30. Now the main camera is 4K60. Might have to do the B camera too.

[@bobbyosborne2375]

The sim racing market is getting a bit oversaturated. When it crashes, and it will, there will be some absolutely killer deals out there.

[@TheRealTyphon]

And why would it crash exactly?

[@chrissyboy7047]

​@@TheRealTyphon bad driving 😂

[@RolandsSh]

This looks more like a hypercar steering wheel than a race car steering wheel.

[@51im]

Had to check that my playback speed was set to normal. 😂

[@bersanguzel2263]

I LOVE IT ! :D

[@Messiane]

Its very very expens !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Nick_Kearney]

Hey Fanatec, where's the Bentley wheel? lol

[@marekm6523]

Fanatec, where is your Bentley wheel? 😂

[@gyujinyang2680]

this kind of display somewhat useless if your eyes are not aligned to the display and that is why we use ddu mounted upper side of steering wheel

[@eNeruRacing]

No offense, but this should not be more than 500-550$ price range.

[@tooeasy1100]

Yeah but why is it reversed? Why is the bottom handle at the top? 😂

[@f3rny_66]

calling the lack of simhub compatibility a positive is.. a take I guess

[@boostedmedia]

No. I said it’s good they’re not relying on it entirely. Of course it would be nice if it supported it.

[@drconflict629]

It's incredibly ugly and expensive for what it is imo. No clue who Moza is targeting with this thing when you can get an Asher mclaren wheel for a similar price.

[@asSIMuNation]

Granted it's novel but.. Style is polarizing, price is a no no, software needs a lot more refinement. Summary... It's a miss

[@JoeBlo2]

Amazing looking wheel, but Simagic and Fanatec >>> Moza bases at this point.

[@ChrisSuperTube]

This says it all: "MOZA is the first sim racing hardware manufacturer with a proprietary UI customization system. It offers 10 presets and complete freedom for users to create their personalized UI dash displays." Proprietary. 10 Presets. Not freedom in my view. No Simhub, no buy for me.

[@Sithhy]

You can create your own dash for this wheels' display so that's a pretty good chunk of freedom instead of being locked to just one layout

[@billbaggins1688]

Way too expensive for me. I would like to see a developer offer up a wheel for VR users - because all the lights and rev meters, and on this one the speedometer etc, are wasted on VR users. Make a comfortable wheel, go easy on the buttons and dials, and make it affordable. You will find a market for it.

[@frozezone22]

Why not try the simagic gt neo

[@mattymatte6289]

If this is too expensive IDK how I feel about my hyper P1 🤣

[@Jarek_iRek]

No one will make a wheel " for VR users". It's a dying technology with less users every year.

[@dhruvb38]

That’s what the KS wheel is

[@billbaggins1688]

​@@dhruvb38ya, true.

[@funhobbiesunlimited]

🔴🏁🏎️💨🎉👌👍

[@TrevHowsonDemon82]

What's this Tesla looking thing.

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Hate this design lol

[@JK.Productions]

*Cries in Fanatec ecosystem

[@MinnieYan]

It can be directly connected to a PC via MOZA's universal adapter

[@JK.Productions]

@@MinnieYan true, but I already have a Formula 2.5 and a Porsche GT3 Podium. I could sell them, but I still enjoy those wheels.

[@bodasafur6078]

This wheel should be priced similar to the gs gt wheel or even the fsr wheel but asking £750 is insane absolutely not worth it add on top the flunkiness of moza products its not going to hold up well in terms of longevity . For the money id sooner get the gs wheel the cm dash and still have £150 in my back pocket . £750 is just a disgusting insult .

[@dauntae24]

310mm ruins this wheel for me on paper.

[@BadWallaby]

I'm not a fan of the design. Might be good but it's hideous.

[@BadWallaby]

The rotating DASH is a waste of money. You are either looking at a screen or in VR. Pointless in my opinion...just like a quick release...

[@AndrewWebster33]

wheel looks terrible

[@isaiahschell]

Use your words

[@AyaxRo]

It's amazing.

[@taxi615]

Weird shape

[@labounti]

Have you seen the Valkyrie or AMG one wheel? It's of that style

[@taxi615]

Yeah doesn't make it look better lol