Review! The NAD C316BEE v2 Integrated Amplifier!

[@Audiorevue]

The best thing about it for me is that its the only amp under 500 that for me really plays and showcases tonal color and timbre. Its brash to be sure but given the right speaker and you hear wood and metal and feel and aurally see the strings being played.

[@svalbard01]

What are a couple examples of the "right speaker" in your opinion?

[@Audiorevue]

@@svalbard01 well I've always thought that probably one of the best pairings for NAD amplifiers is dali speakers, or Klipsch for that matter. They are both different sonically but they both pair well with a 316 bee.

[@Audiorevue]

@@svalbard01 oh by the way the way that you put right speaker in quotation makes me think you're a bit taken aback by my use of that phrase. That's of course the tragedy of using comments or text messages as we do for modern communication, so much nuance is left unsaid and more and more statements are left to singular interpretation. I suppose all I was saying was that it's a fantastic amplifier, and probably one of the best sonically that I've heard for the money, it gives me what I want to hear. A lot of other amplifiers don't at that price. Now granted some of them do things better and have more features but none of them really present that true tone to instruments and music that I enjoy listening to. The only downside to the 316 that I've found is it's volume control is a bit wonky. Essentially it doesn't give you much range for low level listening, I tend to be a low level listener and you either have it at 7:00 and it's perfect volume or you have it at 8:00 and it's so loud it's shaking the windows. That's my only real criticism is that there is no fine gradient to the volume level. But other than that it's perfect

[@svalbard01]

@@Audiorevue Thanks for the reply. I've never tried Dali speakers before.

[@reubensingh1430]

What about q acoustic 3030i

[@gcahill51]

The BEE of NAD’s BEE series of components pays homage to its designer Bjorn Erik Edvardsen, who also designed the storied 3020 integrated amplifier that put the company on the map three decades ago. I believe this was the last amp he designed before his death. A fitting tribute

[@loknut6614]

I Got a C315 (this amp predecessor) for my 18th birthday. That was in 2008, still have that amp and not looking to change it any time soon. I love my NAD amp

[@jpegovitch]

LOK NUT 661 happy birthday! Sorry about the 12 years delay!

[@snuffpappy]

Bought one today with the matching cd player. In my opinion it's the best of a vintage amp in a modern package. It has the best detail and "reveal" of any amp I've ever owned. Nothing gets lost in the mix - everything has distinct character and personality. It has a bit of a forward sound - for example some male vocals sound a little chesty, but it's not uncomplimentary, just a warm presentation. The tone controls add minimal effect but I find bypassing them is fine; bass is unexaggerated with lots of tonal quality and musicality, opposed to boom. High end is natural and pleasant on the ear. ( I have Martin Logans). For $500 canadian its a bargain audiophile's amp.

[@45LiveRecords]

My Nad C316 BEE V2 is paired with some vintage Tannoy T125's and Garrard turntable. It sounds absolutely wonderful, warm, rich, and powerful. And considering the cost of the amp and speakers (used price about £75-100), it's excellent value.

[@donnystrife1908]

I have a NAD 326bee. I really enjoyed it. I also had a peachtree and marantz. The NAD was the stand out. NAD is the gateway drug!

[@aubreymatodlana924]

Hi, Donny. Where did you buy it, I am also looking for it

[@donnystrife1908]

@@aubreymatodlana924 I bought it at musicdirect but that was a few years ago. I do see them up for sale on ebay and audiogon. I'm sure you will find one. Enjoy!

[@aubreymatodlana924]

@@donnystrife1908 Thanks so much Donny, I will check

[@oaklandtobangkok]

Currently with my 3rd NAD in 40 something years. Loving my NAD 6400 PE.

[@FanOWater]

I'm still using an NAD 3155 bought new in 1985. quality stuff!

[@avih7311]

i still have the 7155 Receiver (same as 3155 only also with tuner) from 1985 and still like it :)

[@AdamGeorgeLL]

I think this is one best amps for the money. I had a c316 V1 and went to Musical Fidelity m2si hoping for a small upgrade. Got virtually the same quality of sound for double the price.

[@dontcare563]

I remember back in the late 70's NAD was way ahead of many companies for the value of what you got for the money. Can't speak about that today!

[@dougg1075]

Big transformer reminds me of amps of yesteryear, which means it’s probably all you will ever need. As usual, great review.

[@ShellstaTube]

There's bigger - ATEOTD it's a small to mid powered amp and will have it's limitations.

[@workaholic7600]

I've been waiting what seems like for ever for a NAD review. I own the step up from this, the 326bee Wich offers sub & pre out. I love it. I had it paired with a set of Klipsch quartets and I felt like I was in the same room wile the band was playing. Have Sence moved up to using it as a preamp. One thing for sure, I will never forget the first listening experience. For me the 2 were a match made in heaven. Thanks for the review!!

[@Motorheadwilly]

Have a 316BEE V1 - connected to Elac 2's - love it with a Schitt DAC and Apple Music renders of Jazz, Smooth and lofi - so smooth, so rich - agree with your review

[@SpikeoutBattleStreet]

Even though I'm not buying an amplifier right now, reading your review is so beneficial. Now I know what speakers brands produce warm sounding speakers which is my favourite.😀

[@hi-fihaven2257]

Another piece of great gear with a great price tag. Really like the minimalist aesthetics, nice and clean. Great back panel layout. Great looking build quality, with decent power.

[@tomwright4984]

First time buyer myself. Got one of these today to go with Monitor Audio Gold 100s and a NAD c 558. Pleased with the purchase and the beginning of my audiophile journey

[@ZeroFidelity]

Congrats Tom! Enjoy the great sound!

[@kerbyfab]

That’s a great system... enjoy.

[@tomwright4984]

@@ZeroFidelity Thanks! Definitely thoroughly enjoying it. Learning a lot from your channel. Much appreciated

[@tomwright4984]

@@kerbyfab Thanks KerbyFab! It's pretty awesome!

[@oaklandtobangkok]

WHOA! Big thumbs up for that setup! 'Music wipes away the dust of everyday life".

[@shuckylad]

I’ve just purchased the new NAD M10. It’s my first experience of a NAD product. I’m very impressed with its sonic abilities.

[@ShellstaTube]

M10 is considerably higher spec. The 316 is a stalwart at it's level/price ...but not really comparable.

[@shuckylad]

ShellstaX yes totally, my point was the M10’s sonic signature is similar to what’s he’s describing in this video. But probably to a higher level.

[@ShellstaTube]

@@shuckylad 👍

[@wiebl5266]

Sean, you are on the roll and on fire! Crisp, clear, useful info, insightful without the philosophical clutter. Thank you. Oh yeah, price, wattage, ohms, and perhaps include the product most unique feature - hammered out early.

[@mecheng1977]

Wow this amp really sings. I always thought my Paradigms with the soft dome tweeters was more of a mid stage sound. This amp really brings them to life, incredible detail and soundstage compared to my Denon receiver. When paired to a bright speaker with a bright recording it sounds very forward.

[@jaym9846]

Refoamed a +20 yr old pair of Infinity RS6000 that was collecting dust and while open, rewired the dual woofers in parallel (originally connected in series). Picked up a used BEE for $150. Was pleasantly surprised. Love bass and drums and this combo satisfies. Have yet to push it loud enough to distort in my 16x16 living room.

[@dougg1075]

So many great memories of NAD, like Coca Cola, it’s guaranteed quality:)

[@rudolfsimon8801]

Coca Cola is cancer

[@greymurdock2]

Best review! Explained well with no beating around the bush.. thanks for posting!

[@mnpv7812]

Just picked one up, sounds great through my 90"s Boston VR 950's. Plenty of clean power for my mid-sized room.

[@ravensoulmetal8466]

Thanks for the informative review, as someone taking their first steps in to audiophile gear I'm buying this amp.

[@DrHarryT]

You want REAL equipment, then go to someplace like this... www.guitarcenter.com/Live-Power-Amplifiers.gc

[@raffiequler7510]

@@DrHarryT Yes, nice garbage amps.

[@ajc389]

I am watching this review with the sound going through my C 31BEEE.

[@GustavoRuizpsicologo]

I've bought to replace an Onkyo 9010 and it works pretty well with Wharfedale, cause those are warm speakers and not forward ones. I just use it for listen CD and vinyl, not films. Thanks for your review where I'm returned once and again now that most reviewer are promoting Cambridge stuff against this tiny and quality beast.

[@dezafinado]

Curious... which Wharfdale speakers are you using with this Amp? Do you prefer it to the Onkyo? I also have the Onkyo 9010 and it's hooked to JM Labs (Focal) Aline 3.1... and (on rotation) the Wharfdale Denton 80th Anniversary. They both sound great. Alines have deeper lows and sparkly highs while the Dentons have tighter lows, slightly rolled-off highs and sweeter mids. I wonder if the NAD C316BEE would sound better with the Wharfdale Denton?

[@michaelmityok1001]

This was a truly 1st rate review man, practical insightful AND educational - you can learn a lot about hifi just by reading between the lines.

[@harryt988]

I like that you review “affordable” gear !

[@DrHarryT]

Don't see that often...Someone with the same name and initial as myself.

[@dougbenjestorf280]

Always Loved NAD Thanks for the review

[@Merlin-wo1kj]

I've always enjoyed NAD for their no nonsense approach.

[@jogmas12]

Merlin check out Cyrus electronics for no non sense

[@ChrisStoneinator]

This is about the only NAD product NOT filled with nonsense. It's filled with cheap crap instead.

[@TheFonkzilla]

I love this amp! I actually had the iota sa3 but didn’t like how the sound changed after burn in so I sent it back...I found it to smooth. This Nad though has a nice natural sound with better clarity & is a lot better for driving a groove along as well as rock & metal.

[@mecheng1977]

It is a very lively and revealing amp, I love it

[@jrockofages5413]

...and I had just made my mind up for the Iota...can you elaborate just a bit about the post-burn in sound that you didn't like? greatly appreciated

[@TheFonkzilla]

@@jrockofages5413 After about 70 hours the sound changes so much, it’s like it becomes a different amp, very smooth as I say, the highs rolled off very flat bass not very good, over all looses its dynamics. Sure you can always change things with the Eq or maybe brighter sounding cables Like QED silver anniversary or using a CD player that has more sparkle. Sound staging is good on the Iota playing Queen A Kind Of Magic with all the panning stereo effects sounded amazing. But it was as I say so smooth & rolled off in the highs after burn in I couldnt live with it. Would have to system match carefully I would say.

[@jrockofages5413]

thank you Fonk...any suggestions? what did you go with?

[@TheFonkzilla]

​@@jrockofages5413 No worries J Rock....well I went with the NAD 316 Bee v2, which I much prefer & keeps a much better sound after 70 hour burn in. I’d recommend it with natural sounding speakers, nothing to clinical, Dali Oberon 1 is a dream match ....I haven’t looked back & just enjoying my music now! ✌️🎶

[@johnmcquay82]

My first NAD was the C370. I loved that thing, could be bridged too. I also had the C270 power amp, so bi-amped my TDL RTL2 speakers...that really did sound good in it's day. :)

[@YannickKhong]

cool bonus section :) thx for sharing your thoughts!

[@ITalkTechie]

Cheap price doesn't mean cheap quality, which you proved in this and many other reviews. Really liked an honest review without bashing a product because of low price. Liked the bonus section. You answered my question in that. :) I would like to have your review on McIntosh MA252. I am considering it to get it for my Focal Aria 936 pair of speakers. Please provide me other alternatives to that amplifier as well.

[@domnech]

Great review as always! Bought this about a month ago. Very impressed. Maybe not enough bass for my liking but the bass is very articulate as you stated. The only gripe I have is the feedback you get when you switch to MP and you do not have a phone/mp3 player hooked up yet. Kinda jarring. Also the volume knob does not need to be cranked at all to get high volume. I can only turn it up by a quarter and it shakes the house. You were totally right in stating that this is an entry level model for people just getting started.

[@RFIDemocracy]

I have the previous generation 316. I picked it up new from Visions for 321.00 CAD a couple of years ago when it was on sale while nearing end of product life. I too have owned a few different NAD amps over the years. My speakers are 93dB sensitivity so this amp is more than sufficiently powerful enough for my 283 sq' living room.

[@carolineleonard8214]

Another great collection of thoughts. Back in the day the original was my first proper amp separate. I think it was short lived because I went over to the Audiolab 8000a in the early 80s (still on of my favourites of all time).

[@rotaks1]

Cool review. As usual, I learnt a lot. Thanks Sean!

[@nebilb.6362]

Thanks Sean! You helped me make my buying decision for this amplifier coupled with a pair of Magnat Transpuls 1000 speakers (together with a NODE streamer). Love the sound for the budget. A great synergy in my listening room!

[@victorpirsoul3979]

Hey Sean, I've been into the audio hobby for a while and I currently have the first version of the NAD C 316BEE paired with the KEF Q150 speakers and an SVS SB1000 sub in a 740 sq. ft. open floor plan, 1-bedroom apartment. The combination is brilliant. I'm glad to see that all went well and that you're feeling better. Thanks for reviewing this piece of gear. I hope you get the chance to pair it with the KEF Q150 speakers as well. I took your recommendations on the AQ cables and I went with the Golden Gate ICs and I used the Type 8 speaker cables with BFA/BFA connectors. I'm running 14/2 tinned copper wire from furez cables from the binding posts on the back to the speaker level inputs on the sub. The synergy overall is really nice. I had a few folks over from the Polk forum to hear the setup and their summation was that it sounds, "stellar." I was glad they were hearing what I'm hearing!

[@urakis]

Cool! I just bought a pair of Q acoustics 3020, this might be my next integrated amplifier.. Thanks for the great review. :)

[@tango_gru]

Hows your experience with the match up of Q acoustics and this Int-Amp ?

[@-x21-]

I brought an original C316BEE to an audio store. They showed an Audiolab 8200a integrated on a pair of Castle Knight 5. The midbass was bloated and slow. Swapped to the NAD and suddenly the speakers tightened up and got more lively.

[@crispincrunch2453]

That NAD dynamic headroom tho, definitely makes for a surprisingly lively, dynamic and fun listening experience. The authoritative snap crackle & pop of transients, toe-tapping pace, rhythm & timing. legacy NAD 3240PE + Pioneer BS22 speakers + AntiCable speaker wire = one of the best 6 months of my life when I needed to get back to basics and take a break from me reference system. #goodtimes I never quite got the same finesse experience from the C316BEE, both times I bought it. I actually think the true descendant of the 3020 is the *D3020*. Much more neutral sound signature but still delivering that dynamic & fun NAD house sound.

[@ZeroFidelity]

Sometimes it's nice to break off from the rat race to enjoy a nice, affordable system. As for the D3020. I had one here. It was alright. hehe

[@crispincrunch2453]

🤔 true, at that point $ might as well get the Vista Spark (for those with high-efficiency speakers)

[@crispincrunch2453]

@CLAGMAN1000 In my personal experience, quality control seems to be an issue for NAD. The first D3020 I bought sounded terrible. (V1 with the blacked out remote keys). The next one I bought many months later sounded much better (V1.1 with white remote keys). I noticed the same thing about warm-up, which seems odd for a Class D amp. And the exponential readout in dB for the volume is kinda annoying to adjust yer thinking, I agree. Or did you mean the feel of the physical volume knob?

[@jamess7589]

I know this review is a bit aged now but I pair the NAD 316BEE V2 with the Sound Artist LS3/5A’s. It’s a very good combo for sub £900. 😊

[@barneywee514]

Another great review. From your articulation, I think you've settled the doubt that I have, about the version 2 of the 316BEE. The older version has a laid back mid range and the bass is... darker. Overall it's warm sounding. But I think the power has remained the same. So they have adapted their products to match current needs, the trend have changed. Thanks again for doing what you do.

[@wiebl5266]

Design wise they are simple and old-fashioned. But those that care about the sound quality and reliability, then NAD represents great quality and dependability. It pairs well with brighter speakers. In fact some speakers pairs well with most amps, but shines with a particular amp, and sometimes it takes a while to get a good match. The NAD pairs well with most V set speakers; it works very well with Klipsch. I'm very happy with the NAD C316BEE.

[@saratoga863]

mmg magnepan speakers sing with this amp!!! sound s clean & fantastic!!

[@scottlowell493]

As bad as the C316BEE V2 name is, the industry lost it's collective mind naming a/v receivers. "The Model THX-RXV(II)mk102-7.2LCR10002REVB"

[@Nccr3-ht8gm]

This is a great little Amp and the phono stage is vary nice

[@nizodizo9549]

I have paired Polk Rti-A1's and a cheap Polk sub woofer with the V1 version with great success.

[@jariol]

My last NAD product was 3020 got it when I was a senior in high school in 1979. Also had a Dual turntable, Carver M400, Sansui SE7b, Nakamichi 470z and a pair of JBL L100. Gave all except the JBLs to some guy who was here fixing my washing machine about 10 years ago. The guy didn't even know what I was giving him. The JBL speakers were sold about 8 years ago in excellent condition for $50 pair. If only I could for see the resurgence of classic audio

[@raffiequler7510]

Jariol, you obviously hate music. Idiot.

[@paulm1303]

i'd love a video where you go through the top 5 integrated amps in the $400-$750 range. I'm trying to find something that covers all the bases (phono, digital, bluetooth) but also has good functionality and of course great sound. Pairing with Klipsch RP 600M's. I'm finding it hard with the huge range of options available!!

[@1alexjorton]

Paul M I’m in the same boat (I don’t have the Klipschs yet, but I’m getting them early next year.) Based on great reviews I’m considering the outlaw audio rr260 (something like that) but it is ugly and on the high end of my budget (and yours). If you haven’t heard of it you should check our Steve Gutenbergs review

[@ghgjftythnhcfghdty]

Steve Gutenberg has a review here on KZbin where he raves about this NAD driving the RP600m's, says the combo was very special and just "blew him away".

[@karabennemsi1923]

For the offered price this amplifier is highly recommended.

[@jorgenavas6704]

Hi, friend! How are you? I follow you always and I learn a lot from you. Could you clear up an existential doubt that I have if you are so kind, the Nad316 is a stereo integrated amplifier and the Yamaha s301. What are the differences between stereo and digital? And if I add the Ifi Zen One Signature which is a Dac to both. Which one would serve me better and get the most out of it musically? And yes, I also attach the TV to the DAC through the digital input. This is how it helps me listen to music via stream, CD and watch movies. Greetings from Argentina!

[@roberterickson4736]

Have a NAD 3045 from late 70's. Just waiting for a guy to replace outputs. A great amp.

[@hillelbrandes1488]

Nice review. The one reason I didn't buy it, is because it doesn't have pre outs and main ins; not even a sub out.

[@jeffreymakuch2493]

They reserve those functions for the next step up in the line, the 326BEE. Similar idea, all-analog integrated amp, with a bit more power and the functions you're looking for.

[@hillelbrandes1488]

@@jeffreymakuch2493 Yup, I know. But the original 3020, my first hi-fi purchase, sure did! (Pre outs, main ins). Seems to me, the 326 is more the direct descendant of the 3020.

[@wildehildeschwabischesosse32]

i play the NAD C316BEE v2 with linn basik and customized speakers. for this money the best you ever could get in my opinion, very dinamic, very clear natural sound, i love it so much , got it for only 230€, TOP!!!!

[@Justwantahover]

I have a NAD C356BEE amp and I also have a Jaycar MOSFET amp that cost a third the price of the NAD. And not only is the Jaycar twice as powerful as the NAD, it also Schiits all over my NAD in sound. Best bang for buck ever.

[@cnhhnc]

Nice review. Didn't expect the NAD to not have the old house sound. I have some older NAD integrateds/power amps and I'm a sucker for that warmer sounding power. I find that they pair well with some Elac B6.2s I have. Tone that top end down just a smidge which really helps. I find them bright on other pieces. Jones tuned that treble up higher than normal. You don't hear that on the cheapie Pioneers, or, on the UniFi B5s from what I gather. From your review I think I'd lose it if I ran a set of Klipsch on a C316, lol! But I bet the Pioneer SP-BS22lrs or 52s would sound pretty good on this as a nice budget system!

[@pierrebordeleau5188]

have the nad 316 bee with new paradigm atom se speakers and just perfect for apartment.. very good sound good bass mid and high..

[@carolineleonard8214]

Correction and apologies. The NAD 3020 was my first quality separate. Cheers.

[@25-8]

I’m so happy you got to review this amp! To get back to you, I moved my speakers 3 feet away from the wall and everything between them and what a difference it made! I am loving these Klipsch speakers, they sound good with anything you play with them. Do you think the NAD amp is a better amp to bring more liveliness like you say it sounds for these Klipsch speakers? I like the Emotiva TA-100 but I am really considering the NAD amp if it’s true like Steve says lol... I have heard the Emotiva amp may be a bit “bright”... love the review, great video as always!

[@eddynord4790]

And thanks for a great review as always.. cheers

[@knivesandfire1]

Great review. I really wanted to consider the C316, but no sub out. That said I’m looking at the C368 (review, please?) and Klipsch RP-600 combo. And since you mentioned the original 3020, I scored one from a seller in local Craigslist for $100 USD and this amp is amazing.

[@wadez1000]

The v1 is also a great amp and usually cheap when used.

[@RumbleBones]

Took about 6 months for the NAD 316BEE (V1) to "break in." Really came to life. Can't explain it. (Using 25 year old Polk book shelf speakers.)

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

Good for small bookshelf speakers tower speakers need more head room more power but thanks again Sean never disappoint !

[@sudd3660]

that's not exactly how speakers work, as a general rule maybe but generalixing is not good practice. i would say that all speakers benefit from headroom so hundreds of watts is the way to go if you can. that said, 30 watts let you play loud enough on most speakers, its the small speakers that could require most watts and go below 85db sensitivity, tower speakers usually plays louder for each watt.

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

sudd no I was saying it's good to have head room you use a true 30 watts out of a 40 watt amp then your thd level will rise up and you'll have a higher distortion level compared to a 100 watt amp at 30watts and yes a true clean 30 watts is load but a lot of speakers now days are at 6 ohm and below 90 db

[@markostendorf1122]

Informative review.... appreciate the technical details....

[@hong-enlin4651]

If you bought some mid-fi speakers like JBL studio and you want to do 2 channel for audio, it's pretty much NAD vs Audiolab vs Cambridge audio integrated amplifier to match. There are not a lot of other options if you don't wanna use a Japanese receiver.

[@ProjectOverseer]

The original NAD (New Acoustic Dimension) 3020 Amp had musicality and great imaging. Build was awful though lol Sold truckloads in the early 80's.

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

Agree that the build quality was awful but I also felt the sound was overrated. Sales were driven by all the reviews. The 3020 doesn't live up to its reputation.

[@ProjectOverseer]

@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt The sound was overly warm, but like I said "it had musicality" ... It opened the door to HiFi for many on a limited budget back in what would become the golden age of HiFi. In the late 70's to very early 80's I spent 18 months of my youth working for Sevenoaks HiFi in London. It was during this period the HiFi bug bit hard. After going through various upgrades, my first real HiFi consisted of a lovely pair of AR9 speakers - huge sound from these large dynamic speakers. I had a Revox reel to reel and an Linn LP12 turntable. Audiolab power/pre ... The list becomes long after that. Loved those times though 😀

[@beetleything1864]

My first serious amp

[@dreamdiction]

@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt The original NAD3020 had a speaker protection system which muddied the sound. The speaker protection system was omitted in the Mk2 version so they sound better.

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

@@ProjectOverseer I admired the original AR 9. By the late 70s I had a Yamaha CR 3020 receiver, three Yamaha B2 amps, C2 preamp and Yamaha YPD 8 and 10 tables, 12 AEI speakers, Technics SB E100 speakers, Braun subwoofer with two 10" drivers. I was 18 years old and then I decided to get serious about audio.

[@realist915able]

Listening to video on my NAD 310 stereo integrated amplifier.

[@geraldoram2453]

On a recommendation I bought the NAD but compared to my Arcam Alpha 2 it disappointed. So it just sits in its box. Perhaps one day when the Arcam gives up I’ll try it again.

[@Poguesong]

I have an arcam alpha II. Can you tell me, what speakers you use it? Regards

[@duantorruellas716]

Great review , yeah nads ok . I remember the 3070 and the 310 . Back then they were warmer sounding true. I haven't heard anything after the vintage stuff but it was good to hear you say they have a bit more midrange nowadays because that was what they lacked in the vintage amps.

[@angelotig]

Love NAD!!!

[@jpegovitch]

Outstanding job with the review! I have to replace my 3240 (suffering from wear and tear). Loved the sound, it was indeed not neutral, a bit forward, my old Triangle column speakers are hard to drive so it worked well. Hesitating now between 316 and 356. I appreciate the inclusion of a phono stage in 316, no need to add an extra box. By the way you didn’t comment about the phono stage quality... Also I am now confined in a 15m2 room for listening (plus a staircase when I open the door for a cathedral effect!), so I guess I do not need the extra power of 356. I am thinking that with the budget saving I might upgrade my phono cartridge from Shure N95 to the next level... Again thanks for the in-depth review.

[@Newrecordday2013]

Cranking em out!

[@ericelliott227]

Interesting review. I had a NAD unit on my long list at one point (not this one). This is actually good for a smallish room too. I agree, smart move on NAD's part. Yeah, forward sounding speakers, had you mentioned Paradigm back when the Studios were around I would have said, "dude, what are you talking about"! Having heard the new Personas twice (their expensive flagship speaker) the question becomes, "Paradigm, what the hell were you thinking"? The Studios are near the perfect speaker given that there is no such thing as the perfect speaker, but the Personas to me sound thin and timid at standard listening level and grating at louder level. I didn't know we had similar listening levels. I'm a low volume guy as well, which to me means I'm not an audiophile because I still have great hearing partly due to not playing at audiophile levels. (I have run out of some rooms at trade shows before because they could not work the volume knob).

[@kostasrestas]

NAD + DALI is one of the best match...

[@TheFonkzilla]

yEs!

[@tango_gru]

Which Dali Speakers have you tried this with ?

[@TheFonkzilla]

@@tango_gru Dali Oberon 1. Great match!

[@-x21-]

NHT SuperOne 2.1s work pretty good too.

[@TheFonkzilla]

@@-x21- Haven’t heard of that 1...cool will check it out! Thanks 4 the tip!

[@danielpaulsen2574]

NAD c356bee with Dali spektor 6, is a pretty great combo

[@jerryjazzbo2845]

On the tone controls, the bass is at 50hz, not a hundred. The treble at 12 if not 10. The NAD 326BEE v1 was The Absolute Sound's Product of the Year 2011. Slightly on the warm side of neutral with bass slam and good PRAT. I hope they didn't change the sound signature on the current version if not refined.

[@ZeroFidelity]

The following info came straight from the horses mouth: Treble: ± 5dB at 10 kHz Bass: ± 8 dB at 100 Hz

[@xavierlanau4224]

I’m still using a new NAD c350 I bought in the 90’s with an external NAD pp2e phono preamp wich now is failing and should be repaired. Do you think is worth it to update my old NAD 350 with 60wats for this one with just 40w?

[@Adventure-Spark]

Can you add a subwoofer?

[@johnhpalmer6098]

Yep, very good review on the NAD (I just call it a NAD, not N.A.D.), however, I have its older sibling, the 7240PE receiver (the receiver version of the 3240PE integrated) and like the 316, it's a powerhouse, though it CAN definitely go down to 2 Ohms and at that level, it can kick out 550W at clipping, and like the 316, its "nominal" wattage is 40wpc, but is more likely 60W instead, and it sounds it too. Made between 1988-1992 and has that bit of the warm side of neutral sound, but again, with that bit of a brilliance band emphasis for dynamics of both the micro/macro level, something you don't find with most receivers. The PE here stands for power envelope, which means its definitely has high current for all that headroom. Even the family resemblance is similar, though mine is a gray/black look, but of similar size. I run my NAD with some vintage ADS speakers that work very well with it. However, both the 3240, and 7240PE models have the jumpers for splitting the power section from the preamp section if you want to. If I do anything, it's move up to a unit, such as the vintage 1300 preamp with more inputs and go with I think it's the 2600 power amp section to do separates. As is, the stereo is definitely a fun unit to listen to.

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

This is where nonsense gets repeated online. The NAD 3240 puts out 250 watts per channel @ 2 ohms for 200 milliseconds (max dynamic power) NOT 550 watts at clipping. Big difference.

[@johnhpalmer6098]

@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Um, are you sure as NAD tends to be conservative in their power output so estimates are for 40WPC is closer to 60W RMS. Williston Audio Labs used an SMD amplifier dyno AD-1 test equipment to test for RMS and the ratings were double from what NAD published on the 7240PE, which at 8 Ohms gave him 83/80, left/right at 1.0% Distortion, burst dyno was closer to 217/204W at clipping. For 2 Ohms, this receiver cranked out (albeit at short bursts of a few nanoseconds) 511/498 W L/R. I run some 6 Ohm vintage ADS L810 speakers and they are a dynamic pair for certain. So I'm taking into account not what is published but what is well known by those that have actually tested these and this video is not that old so we're looking at a 28 year old, give or take receiver. So either way, it's a punchy and dynamic little bugger.

[@kvrhifi]

Good review as always and certainly I can imagine how it will sound.. Last part.. speaker and amp synergy really is key. If possible you can do one thing .. keep one successful speaker pair from each manufacturer those who got best reviews by average customers base. Example : Klipsch 600m Elac 2.0 B6 Kef ls 50 Dynaudio m20 Elac ub5 Martinlogan motion 35x Monitor audio silver 100 Svs ultra bookshelf’s When you review amp please test with all and let us know best synergy and recommendations. Likewise you can have 3 or 4 amps to test speakers. If you do so .. you become reference point for budget audiophiles

[@ZeroFidelity]

I'd love to do this Ravi, but there are three major issues that prevent most reviewers from doing what you described. The first thing is (1) Time. What you suggest would add weeks to the reviewing process. Even the boys who do this for a living cannot realistically get this done on a regular basis. And if time wasn't a factor, you then run into the second problem, (2) Logistics. Where exactly is someone going to store a dozen+ products and shipping cartons? And lastly (3) Most manufacturers wan't their stuff back. Well, unless you're a paid-off KZbinr that is - and there are MANY of those. Still, odds are you'll have to spend your own money on at least some of the gear, and that gets expensive very quickly. So yep, maybe one of the inspired KZbinrs wh do whatever it takes to make money will explore that route - but it certainly won't be me!

[@jeffreymakuch2493]

@@ZeroFidelity I was going to make a somewhat similar request...please list at least in the description which speakers you used for review. Presumably you use at least a few different speakers with different voicing, or easy or hard loads, or some other kind of variety to see if things remain consistent across different speakers. As a subjective reviewer, it's great to have your opinion on what matches better or worse with electronics.

[@sudd3660]

quite the bad speaker list, only bass reflex boxes. when there are better sealed options out there. ask any good sound engineer, ports and the lack of internal sound absorption and no acoustic suspension only to fake some more low end, you also reach woofer xmax faster and cant play as loud.

[@John_F898]

@@ZeroFidelity Also, just connecting one set of speakers is a bit of a pain. :)

[@mr.aleximer]

I have been given on as a gift but they say power switch condenser is dead. How to fix it?

[@kerkezz]

Not single words about alternatives....

[@iloveblue7920]

Not that kind of video, Didn't you see the title? Omg

[@Gary_M]

Sounds like it would pair well with AJ Pioneers or first-gen Elacs.

[@bickert19]

Not to bump a one year old comment, but thank you for posting this. I just picked up a used C316 V1 for $175 and ordered the AJ Pioneer FS52 for $199 a pair. My first system and I’m hoping it has a nice synergy.

[@venturarodriguezvallejo1567]

Nice "old British School" integrated. One question: this NAD is manufactured in Great Britain, or is it made in the Far East? I say this because in the past, British Hi-Fi brands were very proud in making at home their products, no matter the price point of them. They thought that having a close up control over their gear production guaranteed a better and uniform consistency in the final results (and perhaps they were right). A retailing price of roughly 400 bucks Last observation: at first glace it exhibits a clear layout and seems to be solid enough. If it sounds as good as it looks, it could be a "best-seller".

[@johnpereira6934]

NAD is a Canadian company owned by Lenbrook. Has been Canadian for decades. Probably safe to assume made in China.

[@-x21-]

They haven't make much in the UK. My 80s model was made in Taiwan.

[@NateEll]

Part of NAD’s secret sauce has long been Far East manufacturing. And as noted, NAD hasn’t been a British company in decades.

[@J0hnny8ravo]

I don’t know why people usually associate low powered amps with lack of dynamics. I got a fairly old Rotel ra-931 mkll that sounds way bigger than it’s specs. And i’m not going to replace the thing until it cracks

[@jabroni1498]

Love the functionality of my NAD C338, not many reviewers have reviewed them, would love to know what you think

[@amb3cog]

Great review. Interesting piece. Looks very well made for the cost. Maybe get some Q Acoustics 3050's, and whatever source you prefer. You'd be pretty well set in the right room, and for a decent price too . Only issue I have is the lack of a sub out. Not that I even use a sub, but I want the option.

[@ShellstaTube]

Some Subs have high level input for connection from speaker posts. E.g. REL T5i. Edit: ... or 1 step up to the 326 which has 2xsub outs and pre out.

[@amb3cog]

@@ShellstaTube I'm aware of the options, just don't like any of them. Don't want my signal going through anything else, unless it absolutely has to. And if I purchase something else with a sub out. It won't have to. I also don't like being limited in my choices of subs. This already doesn't have many options as it is (no DAC, BT, or tape output. So no recording, or EQ/processor hookup). The least they could have done was put a sub or Pre out, especially considering many people will likely be using this in a small room, or near field/desktop situation w/ small bookshelf speakers. That being said. It does appear they spent the money on quality components instead, which is great. Just don't think adding the sub out costs enough to risk losing customers over is all. They're probably thinking like you are. If someone wants it. They'll step up to the next model. I think many people will choose another amp in the same price range instead (of course that amp may end up being their own D 3020 v2 anyway). Either way. It's a no go for me right off the bat. And I would much rather lose an input, or two even, to get an output instead. Heck take away the headphone out even. That's fine with me. But that's just my take on it. Maybe I'm totally off base here? ✌️

[@ShellstaTube]

@@amb3cog 👍 Yup - trimmed down analog only to save on costs ... but I do think the speaker to high input sub is a good/best method for music - yes, convenience and more choice comes with RCA (but luv my REL). I have an Arcam A19 - also analog only but does have pre-out for sub or power amp. One of the benefits of such is that you can choose your own external DAC. Yup - more bits/cost. 😎

[@amb3cog]

@@ShellstaTube I've never used a sub. But I'm looking at the Rythmik L12. It has high, and low inputs. I'd like to be able to make my own decision on which one sounds best though. And I already own 4 external DACs, including a NOS Scott Nixon Tube DAC I love. I've actually never tried an onboard one, and I want to. In theory it should be better, all things being equal of course. With the direct connection (i2s?), and all. This is all hypothetical though anyway. This amp isn't really powerful enough for the speakers (Denton 80th Anniversary) I would use it with anyway. Seems they need a good amount of power to sound good, and maintain their dynamics at low volume. Thankfully I've got plenty of gear to use in the meantime, while I decide which way I want to go. Whatever way that is though. I would prefer as many options as possible. Sometimes the slightest little difference in a setup can be just enough to get you where you want to be. Choices are good. 😉👍 ✌️

[@jhbarcia]

ShellstaX are you shure you can match the rel t5i sub? I want to buy a sub but a very few of them have speaker conection to use with the 316. thanks

[@BOBspellitbkwrdsSMFS]

Thinking of purchasing a C375Bee and pairing with Kefr300.

[@ShellstaTube]

I have a C375BEE and have spent a bit of time with the KEF R700s. The KEFs are a brighter / more foward signature. You are going to get more bass from the larger cabinets / number of drivers of the 700s than the 300s. That said, the 375 will provide a fullness of sound well over the 316 due to it's power, so should go a long way to addressing the defficiency of the 316. Luv my 375. The KEF R series are real nice too. If bass is a little lean with the 300s but you don't have the space/budget for larger cabinets - you a. Have tone control (use moderately), b. (upgrade / later?) Could complement it with a small subwoofer (e.g, REL T5i). That'd be a real nice system.

[@BOBspellitbkwrdsSMFS]

ShellstaX thank you. I do plan on adding a sub. Right now I use an old AR sub with 150watts of power. The 300s are an amazing set of speakers.

[@ShellstaTube]

@@BOBspellitbkwrdsSMFS Piano gloss black? REL would match real nice 😎.

[@ShellstaTube]

PS: Sub doesn't have to be big - need fast response and lower levels to support the sound yet not intrude.

[@BOBspellitbkwrdsSMFS]

@@ShellstaTube i bought the white, my room is setup with white cabinet. The blacks were on sale too.

[@jimshaw899]

Thanks for this. My upcoming Klipsch 600s are gonna need a new amp. This probably isn't it. I need a subwoofer output and would really like preamp line outs so if I upgrade to a higher power in the future (Vidar? Blame Steve for that idea), I can keep using the integrated amp as a quality preamp. Thank all that's good that tone controls are back in fashion.

[@ZeroFidelity]

The Iotavx SA3 has whatcha need, as well as being a good match with the 600's. A review will be coming early next week. Extremely, highly recommended.

[@jimshaw899]

@@ZeroFidelity I'm trying to chase them to ground now. I can't currently find them on sale in the US. Look forward to your review. You might cover that issue. -THANKS

[@ZeroFidelity]

@@jimshaw899 As I understand it, they take on the consumer-direct business model and ship the product directly from the UK. I also believe they will soon have representation in the US and Canada. (service, returns, etc).

[@sharunmathew4825]

Nad c316 or Cambridge audio axr 35 which one best ?

[@danielbarrera6880]

the NAD is more powerful

[@oysteinsoreide4323]

The lack of sub out and pre out, means that you need a sub with speaker wire input.

[@freethot333]

PS Audio's Paul McGowan swears that that is always the way to go anyway. ;)

[@oysteinsoreide4323]

@@freethot333 I know that. But many subwoofers don't have speaker level input. So you need to pick wisely. I have binding posts on mine, but I use line level, because I have pre-out on my integrated amplifier.

[@oysteinsoreide4323]

@CLAGMAN1000 I don't agree with that. I want to have a sub, both for music and movies. Even with large floor standing speakers. It makes the bass become more full. There is always a roll-off in the bass regardless of what speakers you have. But of course someone might disagree with me, and that is fine. Of course it's possible to manage without a sub. But not for me.

[@freethot333]

@CLAGMAN1000 I "want" a sub! I could settle for maybe..10 Hertz capability at 120 db

[@enian82]

What about Elac Debut 6.2 .....Will this match well with the NAD 316 BEE v2

[@MrWopwink]

nice review and well said:)

[@iloveblue7920]

Good video, is this integrated amp better than its predecessor? thanks

[@marcgoldscheider6336]

Thanks for your vidéo I m french, but i tried to understand you

[@kiari1995]

me : 1.45 cm iq 5180 at alike speakers .... damn there is nothing about the controle and power of the 268 and 368 c sound damn its digital ... but damn thats controlled af

[@jacoblynch8636]

For anyone worried about the power specs on this amplifier please don’t worry Williston audio labs tested another model I don’t remember the model but it absolutely crushed the power output that it was rated at it was rated at 45 W and the lowest it would push was like 90 something Whitesburg channel and is he lowered the evidence I think it was pushing something like almost 200 W per channel by the time he got done with it and it was only rated 45 W per channel they highly underwrite their power