Review: Yamaha Allegro Trumpet, YTR 5335G

[@cdee6096]

Just received this horn for my son. He will be getting this for his freshman year in band after 4 yrs of playing. Thanks for your review- its the reason we settled on this horn. I really enjoyed your song as well!

[@JonathanMilam1]

C; Thank you. Yamaha makes some fine instruments; I hope your son appreciates this one. Good luck, thanks for your kind words, and thanks for commenting. :)

[@CarlyWaarly]

Hi Jonathan, we purchased a YTR 5335gsii thanks to your video, along with others, it is a beautiful trumpet to play and the valves are very slick and light. Thanks.

[@JonathanMilam1]

CSMedia; Super! Glad you all like the horn! Yamaha makes a tremendous trumpet. I honestly doubt that Louis Armstrong every had a horn made as tight as the Yamaha's are made. I hope the horn serves you well and you prosper greatly with it! :)

[@CarlyWaarly]

@@JonathanMilam1 Thanks, we have embellished with some spare parts from the 5335g ii, the trumpet looks terrific!

[@JonathanMilam1]

Ian; Thank you. I've got a long way to go - but I'm working at it and having a blast. Advice to help your range... Yes; I'll give you a few tips I've picked up. One of the great trumpeters of the 1900's, Rafael Mendez, said this, "...Scales, scales and more scales!" That's such a big part of playing. I start at the low Gb and do every scale up as high as I can go. Tongue, slur it, but do it as well as you can every time. Then I read a guy (at Trumpetherald.com) that said the one thing that helped his range most in college was lip trills and pedal tones. Take a C in the staff and slur up to an E in the staff and back down.... Do it in quarter notes, then eighth notes, then sixteenths; as fast and as slow as you can. Then play a low C - below your lowest Gb. That way your taxing your upper range (and building muscle with the lip trills up there) and loosening up your low range with pedal tones. I'll make a vid and put it up here for you within a couple days, ok? By the way - nice touch on the piano! :)

[@JonathanMilam1]

I've used a ton of different mouthpieces over the years. At one time I used a Bach 1, then a 2. For years I liked Warburton's 4 series, maybe like your Bach 3C. Finally, I started experimenting with smaller pieces and have liked them better. Ususally, though, the bigger the mouthpiece the better tone you get; deeper, darker and more volume. The 3C is used by some absolutely top pros - I think that's what Arturo Sandoval uses - and he may be the best trumpeter alive right now.

[@estebanjaviermalecki1809]

Según dicen los que saben que, las Trompetas Yamaha, que las series 5xxx en adelante, son todas buenas y muy buenas. Las serie 1xxx o 2xxx, son muy duras y pesadas como un adoquín!! Esas son de estudio; las que mencioné al principio son profesionales. Yo tengo una YTR6320S y la verdad es que es muy cómoda y liviana! Saludos a todos desde La Plata - Buenos Aires - Argentina!!

[@chrono5108]

I bought this trumpet for my freshman year of college (music major). From playing on an old rusty Getzen to playing this horn, I can definitely feel the difference and I am loving this horn. However, will this horn be acceptable in the next step up of concert performance? Post grad etc.

[@CarlyWaarly]

Thanks Jonathan, we nipped into Yamaha UK London yesterday after viewing several KZbin videos, including yours, in the prospect of purchasing the YTR4335 GS II, that we were set on. However, after comparing the YTR5335 GSII valve action and how comfortable it was in the hand, it felt right to bring it home. It is a YTR 6335 by all accounts less bell strucure, possibly why it is being discontinued. After not playing trumpet for some 45yrs on an old repaired, (Boosey & Hawks) that was much loved, despite it being welded, (purchased courtesy of an astute trumpet teacher) I had to chuckle in embarrassment in the limited amount of notes that could be found, thank goodness for a soundproofed booth. Will be starting from scratch but there was improvement within the hour, so patience is a friend and playing christmas carols, dance band and Jazz will be looked forward too. Thanks :)

[@JonathanMilam1]

Great to hear you found a horn you like! :) And welcome back to the trumpet; very nice to hear. I quit playing for most of my late 20's, 30's and early 40's so I can relate (a bit) to your comeback. I've had a blast even though the trumpet can be a VERY frustrtating instrument. Feeling great one day...Then quite humbled the next. :) I found a tremendous amount of wisdom at TrumpetHerald.com, loved the Forum sections and feel like I've made a good number of freinds from that site. TrumpetMaster.com is similar but it just wasn't quite for me what TrumpetHerald.com is (although a lot of guys are active on both). At any rate, welcome back to the trumpet family. Continued best wishes!!

[@CarlyWaarly]

Well we did purchase a brand new Yamaha YTR 5335gsii, it had to be returned as there was what appeared to be a 1/4inch circle of black mould on the inner valve so replaced. The second one developed some sort of patchy discolouration inside the valve brass area and started to have sticky valves despite cleaning. It was returned to Yamaha for inspection and without informing they lapped the middle valve that was felt unacceptable on a new instrument. The attraction of this trumpet was indeed the incredible and very slick valve moment but it came as a shock to have the valves sticking, never experienced that before. Until Yamaha sort their Monel problem out then they can not be recommended.

[@JonathanMilam1]

I'm very sorry to hear this! I've had a number of Yamaha trumpets, cornets and flugels, and never had a failurs of this magnitude. I'm very sorry to hear this!

[@2brok3dudes]

This is the trumpet I use and is is just as amazing as described only problem so far is when I put my valves in they don't always lock in the position they Need to be in, also spit likes to collect in my first valve slide and first valve

[@gordonwyper7324]

hi jonathan.. another great demo!. I am considering this a 2nd horn because the low price point.. but also, on all the demos, it sounds fantastic! Great work, cheers

[@JonathanMilam1]

Have you bought anything else in the last couple weeks, Gordon? I'm losing track - in touch with a lot of people. :)

[@alanartz]

Its there a difference between the standard 5335GSII and the Allegro 5335GSIIAL?

[@JonathanMilam1]

Alan, I'm going to guess there is, but I'm not really a Yamaha guy and couldn't tell you what it is. On some of their models Yamaha will change leadpipes, bell gauge (thickness of metal), some bracing stuff, etc. I actually have been playing more Bach stuff recently, sorry I can't give you exact details. Best wishes for a happy New Year!

[@JonathanMilam1]

Yes, I suppose I could. Most trumpeters think that's cool. In one video I do go to an F over high C; no need for much more than that although it can be fun. My family doesn't care a lot for high note playing; most folks that don't play trumpet seem to find the lower range a bit more appreciable. Thanks for the thought - I'll try and add some upper range for 'ya.

[@captainkronker3985]

I got this one yesturday and it’s really cool 🤗

[@JonathanMilam1]

Good for you! It is a nice horn indeed! :)

[@gordonwyper7324]

Hahah .. I’m working away at the moment so haven’t had the chance to try anything. In the meantime, I think I’ve researched just about every trumpet that’s ever been! Your vids are great research material ! I’m curious about this Yamaha . I know it’s an “intermediate “ model but it has an attractive sound quality

[@CarlyWaarly]

We had to return ours after a year, spent more time in workshop than being played, the valves started off slick but soon started to stick, despite meticulous cleaning.

[@fletchlivesdaily348]

Great vid. I am searching for a trumpet, in silver, for my 7th grade boy. He loves the band and is 2nd chair. He is currently using a cheaper rental and wants an upgrade. SHould we try to get an intermediate trumpet like this one, or spend more for a pro? Thanx

[@JonathanMilam1]

Great question! How much do you love your child? (JUST a little bit of humor!! [I've actually heard this when I was raising my kids - super tacky, right?[). Really, to me several things come into the equation; how much does he practice? This lets you know if he really likes playing - of course a pro horn is easier, therefore 'funner' to play - but if he doesn't practice much at all I wouldn't go overboard on purchasing. If it's going to be a long lasting thing, through High School, say, value is the key. If you can find a Yamaha 5335 or 4335 (considered 'intermediate horns') for $300 or less and they're in good shape - that's a good value. If you're looking at $600 or more for an intermediate horn and it were me - I'd step up to a pro horn that's used for ajust a little more $$ and I'd do that 100% of the time (in fact I almost never buy an intermediate horn but I was curious about the Yamaha in this vid [and it was a great value at a pawn shop]). Presently I have two pro horns for sale and they're an excellent value because they're from Europe and largely unknown in the U.S. They're Bach Strad 37 style horns made by B&S. One of the last horns I had from B&S I sold to a member of the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra for his son... Great horns, great value. They're silver, in very good condition, fine tone (pro horns), great valves and slides and very clean - I'm asking $795 for each of them. A similar Bach Strad (a more commonly known pro horn that is identical in build and quality) would cost you at least $1250 - more likely $1500. Food for thought, Fletch. I have a vid here at KZbin about buying used trumpets, you may pick up some tips there if you buy used. Keep in touch - feel free to bounce any ideas off me....And good luck! I have 3 kids that all played in school; flute, clarinet and violin. :)

[@earlyriser1861]

+Fletch Lives Daily. I second Jon's opinion. If he wants to stop after high school, an intermediate trumpet would be perfect for him. Vice versa if he wants to continue after high school. However, I personally think he should hold on to the student trumpet you guys currently have, but that's just me. I wish I had the Yamaha 300ADSII or Bach TR200S, since I was a sophomore and wish I would've been in marching band since my freshman year, but I digress. I would wait until he's a sophomore in high school to upgrade than right now, but again, that's just me.

[@MyTube6444]

James Duffy What kind of trumpet player makes a date on when to stop playing?

[@earlyriser1861]

Most people don't touch their instrument again after high school.

[@SightCentralVideos]

Fletch Lives Daily Absolutely! But before you spend money on a instrument, make sure he wants to keep playing. I have this trumpet and it is absolutely fantastic.

[@CarlyWaarly]

Hi there Jonathan, what is the difference between the YTR4335 and this YTR5335? anything noticeable that stands out rather than just the valve tops? Is the mouthpiece the standard 11B4? Thanks.

[@JonathanMilam1]

Greetings! It's been years since I had either of them and my memory is failing me as to any differences. I'm gonna guess that the 5335 is a newer model. The 4335 that I had must have been at least 11 years ago. To me, they were both excellent horns. If I didn't know and no one told me I would have thought them both to be pro models. Yamaha has put out some great horns - and these two models are certainly well worth the money. Sorry I can't be more helpful as to specific details. :)

[@2brok3dudes]

I use of this trumpet for high school marching band and I agree about the valves there so Smooth

[@JonathanMilam1]

Eric; Greetings. I use a smaller mouthpiece, it would be about the size of a Bach 10-1/2. The maker is "Marcinkiewicz" and I usually use his Shew 1.75 or 1.5. His 6-9 pieces are about the same rim but with a deeper cup and, I think, a slightly larger backbore. Lots of his, and other, mouthpieces, available at TrumpetHerald . com - a great forum for trumpeters. And yes, this horn is a fine player. Thanks for the comments!

[@DoctorTelefono]

i am currently looking for a new trumpet i am going to be 1st chair next year and am currently in high school the music we play is rather difficult as the standards are set high so i need a good responsive trumpet, do you have any suggestions?

[@2brok3dudes]

Jonathan Milam the 3c is great I have a very large mouth so I need the size of the 3c but I might get the Bach 1c soon the allegro still works great only two problems so far, for one spit seems to collect in my first valve slide and two spit collects in my first valve . Also have you ever herd of a mouth piece manufacturer by the name benge if so are they worth keeping because I recently found a benge 7c

[@JonathanMilam1]

Erich; Greetings. Eldon Benge was a great trumpet maker in, probably 1950's -1970's. He'd been, I think, the principal trumpet for the Chicago Symphony during his early trumpet making years and before. He and Schilke were friends. Anyway, his trumpets are renowned but were bought and the name continued to be used by UMC, the company that also makes King and Conn horns now. I've had some excellent Benge pieces; they can be very nice. The 7C is a good size; if one uses it you can go a bit smaller for screaming or a bit larger, like a 3C, for a nice, full, symphonic sound. I used to use a Bach 1, 1C, 2C and so on - but I've gone much smaller now. If you can handle that big a mouthpiece - they can yield a great tone with a lot of volume. Good to hear from you again, Erich.

[@2brok3dudes]

Jonathan Milam Yeah I have a 3c that is what I use mainly, I just found the mouthpiece in an old king trumpet case in our highschool instrument storage room. I just wondered if it was any good,from what you say it seems to be very good thanks for the help Also is there any way to get some springs for my ytr-5335gsal allegro that will make the valves a little harder to press , say give it a harder compression if you have any ideas they would be appreciated. Happy holidays from michigan

[@JonathanMilam1]

The Bach 3C is an excellent mouthpiece. It's just a bit large for me; I lose about too much range. I've always wondered if that's because of my mouth size, teeth and so on or if I just don't practice enough. Since I've started using a smaller piece (about equal to a Bach 10-1/2D or so, my range has gone up about 1/2 an octave. Still, I do like the bigger sound of the larger mouthpiece. Good luck with the 3C - it does yield an excellent sound when one can handle it.

[@krakens4]

where could I find a trumpet like this to get shipped to the us?

[@JonathanMilam1]

I found this one in a Pawn Shop in Houston. I consistently shop for horns at Ebay, Reverb.com and Trumpetherald.com. I almost never buy new horns; used horns are a much better value.

[@2brok3dudes]

Any tips on how to make the valves a little harder to push down

[@paulgrimm]

How does this compare to your Bach 43?

[@JonathanMilam1]

The new Strads, the 190's, are hard to beat in my opinion. Then again, I think the Shires Q records VERY well. It's been too long for me to compare the Yamaha Allegro... I've had too many nights since then. I got this Allegro (years ago, granted), in a Pawn Shop just outside Houston for like $250. It was WELL worth that, but I don't know how it'd compare to a 190. Bach went all out on these new horns, trying to recapture their dominance by putting their best design principles to work - and striving for consistency.

[@pauldance7387]

I’d like to get the sheet music to that piece...marvelous sounding b-flat trumpet.

[@pauldance7387]

Do you have impressions on the Bobby Shew, I was considering one.

[@JonathanMilam1]

Paul; sorry so long to respond. I'm traveling a lot and not keeping up as well as I should. I did have the Yamaha Shew horn and it did not work for me at all. Mine, like many, was very stuffy. I think the problem was the small leadpipe size. That horn really works well for some and really doesn't for some. Strange thing is - I'm not a big wind guy and it still didn't work for me. The mechanics of the Yamaha horns are excellent; I've had many and enjoyed their precise quality but the Shew horn was a model that didn't work for me at all. The Shew mouthpieces didn't work for me either; they were a bit large. I think his are near the Bach 3C size; I'm used to something between a Bach 10 and 7. Thanks for asking. Anything else - just post. I'll try to be quicker next time. :)

[@aidantraitran8334]

How much did you buy the trumpet for?

[@JonathanMilam1]

This was maybe 8 years ago; I honestly have no recollection what the paid for it. :)

[@JonathanMilam1]

Evan; Greetings. Here's what I think: Very few people, if any, in a blind test would be able to tell the difference between the tone of a Yamaha 5335 and a Yamaha 8--- series. Still, I've heard (just heard, no personal experience here) that some professors prefer their upper class students to have certain instruments. So, it'll probably depend on the professor you get and exactly what they want and what they pressure you to get. I think many pro's feel that their is a big difference between a starter horn, like a Yamaha 2335, and a pro horn, like a Yamaha 8335. Many pros (but not all) feel that some intermediate horns, like this 5335G, may play almost as well as a pro horn. Again, much will depend on who your instructor is and what they want. I almost never buy new horns for two reasons; 1 - they're awfully hard to break in (valves, slides, etc.) and 2 - they're just soooo expensive. I'm perfectly happy buying a used Bach Stradivarius for $800 - $1,000 but paying full price of $2,400 would bother me immensely. While I bought new horns when I was younger - I just won't do it now (unless it's a phenomenal deal and a really hard horn to find). I've bought several Strad horns from $400 to $800. So, if you're instructor wants you to buy a pro horn - you don't have to go new. If you choose to sell your Yamaha 5335 to get a pro horn you may only be a few hundred dollars to step up the ladder once again. Good luck, Evan; thanks for listening and contributing here.

[@2brok3dudes]

Has any one herd of a benge 7c before I recently found on and wonders if it is worth keeping

[@2brok3dudes]

What size and brand mouth piece do you use

[@ianwalker8409]

wow,Your pretty good i'm 13 do you have any advice to help with my rang the highest I can play is a B above the staff.

[@Prometheushighaf]

I think the title sound have an s at end not a g?

[@JonathanMilam1]

Actually, it should be GS. Apparently, the bell is Gold-Brass, which is an added percentage of copper to darken the tone. The S, as you mention, would refer to the 'Silver (Plating', but occasionally Yamaha fails to add the S. I only label the trumpets the way they are marked on the instrument. You are correct though, the S should have been present. It just wasn't. :)

[@Prometheushighaf]

@@JonathanMilam1 I'm learning so much about this. Thanks a lot, I'm new to it. I think I'll get this one after watching the video. It's a really nice size. Would it be good for beginners?

[@JonathanMilam1]

@@Prometheushighaf James, this is a nice trumpet. It's similar, in my opinion, to the 43-- series. They're both a step up from the Yamaha 23-- series, but they're not the pro models, which are 63-- and the newer 83--. I almost never buy new; I usually buy pro horns that are used for less than the price of new beginner or mid-level horns. It's your choice; a shiny, lovely, unused mid-level or beginner horn, or a used, maybe-not-beautiful pro horn that still plays well. :) Good luck, James. And you were right on about the missing 'S' to begin our conversation. It should have been there... :)

[@captainkronker3985]

I got this one for school next year

[@JonathanMilam1]

It's a very nice horn... Enjoy! :)

[@ThEKiinGundPriiNz]

i´ve got the trumpet und its really nice but you should try to play higher for your subscribers on a review^^

[@2brok3dudes]

I like a Vincent Bach 3c

[@pitgroove.37_66]

No, Yamaha actually still makes the 5335

[@JonathanMilam1]

Pit; Thanks for the info. Very nice horn. :)

[@JonathanMilam1]

Yes, Joe; I do. Visit this page and send me a message - along with your email. I'll send you a lengthy reply with some good ideas for you. If that won't work I can abbreviate my thoughts here, but please send me a message at the contact page at JonathanMilam . com (remove spaces) Glad to hear you've worked yourself up to first chair; that's good. I've run across a lot of ideas since high school but few of them are much different from what my High School band director suggested. Congrats!

[@deaddog21]

Thank you for this video. Your review helped me with deciding to purchase this horn. Hopefully, I haven't been scammed, but I purchased a "brand new" one, on-line from a company in Germany. Cost was right around $1050, which I thought was a pretty good deal. Again,... I hope I haven't been scammed. Will let you know the outcome. (The site was Thomann (dot) de . )

[@JonathanMilam1]

***** Dave; Congrats! Yamaha makes a very nice series of horns. I believe I recognize the Thomann name; if I recall they're one of the large European dealers with a very good reputation. I think you'll be happy with them and your horn. Keep in touch! :)

[@deaddog21]

Jonathan Milam To my surprise, the trumpet arrived in the mail today. It is very impressive. Good compression like you said, good sound, great tone. Thank you again for your video on this fine trumpet. These horns are selling here in the states USED , for more than what I paid for a brand new one from Thomann . Took about 2 weeks to get here, but it was worth it. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to email me. Dave

[@TheDatpussy]

Dave Wilson yea thomann is one of the biggest instrument sellers in europe so no worries if your buying from thomann, yea yamahas are really expensive over in the states.

[@CarlyWaarly]

​@@deaddog21 Hi Dave, we had problems with Thomann and stopped using them, you are lucky if all went well. We had to send our 5335gsii back and eventually purchased from Yamaha UK, London, that is just a quick bus ride away for us.