Reviewing a $3000 Board Gaming Table

[@ajeba98]

04:49 I think those measurements are backwards.

[@Shelfside]

dang, how did I not see that. Pinned your comment :) -Ashton

[@firechickenreviews]

Measurement I believe are for the external and not game vault area I believe as well: Lifted from their KS: External size: 39.4" x 59" (100cm x150cm) The Gaming Vault dimensions: 30.7" x 50.4"(78cm x 128cm) The Vault Depth: approx 8cm Height: 30.3" (77cm)

[@MrSomebunny]

There are some serious faults with this table for the price. A £2250 table should NOT have such large imperfections filled in with low grade epoxy that doesn’t even try to blend in. Not only that, that is a pretty sloppy job. Looks like they just slopped it on and called it good. It should at least be a 100% seamless epoxy without rough spots, but, again, a £2225 shouldn’t have such lazy woodwork. Look at that crack at 4:17 and how that epoxy job is so messy! They used a piece of wood that should not have gone into a £2225 table, epoxied it with the worst color imaginable that highlights the mistake, and didn’t even epoxy it correctly. Just bad.. Next, the base of that table should be solid. A thin wood veneer is lazy. They could have at least made that a solid 1/4 or 1/2 inch slab. If someone bumps the bottom of that table with their knee, there’s no protection for the play area and nothing stopping the play area from bouncing, ruining any game going on there. Poor design. It should at least an insert slot in some way or have something holding the play area firmly in place. Also, the prices for those accessories are extremely over priced and kinda sloppy (as you pointed out). Those take 15 minutes to make. That’s egregious to charge $72 for a slab of wood with a bracket screwed onto it. I would expect, for that price, the mug holders should be less deep to accommodate different size cups, there should be built in coasters in them, etc. and why are there differing corners.. For the price they’re charging? Come on.. this is amateur work Look, the table seems fine and functional, but tables costing £2225 need to nail the small details. This table does not nail the details for its asking price and it just comes off as amateurish. Not to mention, the design of the table is a bit college dorm room/ikea looking. Was kinda hoping for something a bit more stylish, but that’s just personal preference.

[@intrepidfool]

Yeah. The Wyrmwood MGT destroys this table for the same price point imo.

[@garylangford6755]

I don't get "gaming tables" which are tiny. Give me a 1.8m table at very least

[@intrepidfool]

@@garylangford6755 The table in this video is small due to the space available in their gaming area. There are all kinds of tables from tiny coffee tables to massive wargaming tables. Basically, if it exists as a normal table, you can probably buy a "gaming" version of it with a vault and topper. I hope that info helps.

[@mooseymoose]

The wood they used is common grade garbage too.

[@abshrhejjdkrksnf]

I have this table over 2 years now. I’ve worked with wood in the past and this table is very nicely made. We take the leaves on and off several times a day most days to play games, eat dinner, kids do homework etc. They work really well. I can leave games setup for later without blocking the table for use by my family. I’ve spilled drinks across the table a few times and the leaves caught it and drained it out underneath the table without destroying the game setup in the table well. Crumbs do get caught in the gaps but I usually just hoover quickly along the edges of the leaves when I take them off. As regards accessories, I bought too many but am glad to have them. Most important I think would be the leaf box to store the leaves, then the counter holders which fit a coaster perfectly and we use all the time to hold our cups of tea. The mug holders are not very useful because all our cups have handles so they won’t fit in. The side tables and iPad holder come in handy now and again. Sitting down in an evening at this table to learn a new game when the house is quiet and everyone’s gone to bed is a pleasure. I would recommend getting one if you think the price is ok.

[@Spilzu]

Time to become a board game KZbinr so I can get sent a gaming table

[@BoardGameDave]

Do it! 😂

[@wrath231]

Amen dude

[@willytyrion6010]

Worth it cause the price they are selling them is mounts of salary for most XD

[@MinistryProductions]

We have the Megan table but the large one. We have the extra height legs too as I'm pretty tall. We've played up to 5 player TI inside the table. Pretty crammed even on the large one. We have some of the accessories you have and some you don't. We didn't really see much practical use in the bits holder, so pro tip.. Put a coaster in it and use as a mug holder. BOOM! We love our table and use it all the time. Very happy with it.

[@Shelfside]

awesome! I think the coaster usage is good for the accessory tray. Or just use it for wallet/keys/phone haha. Cheers! -Ashton

[@NATOnova]

appreciate how you can still seemingly be honest and provide a balanced review with criticisms of the board despite being sponsored by them!

[@andrewdreasler428]

5:39 I had the same issue with my Duchess table. I finally got a sheet of 1/4" plywood and cut it to fit as a replacement for the two half-sheets. Then I had to use a router to thin the edges to 20mm, turns out the dimensions are all in metric, a bit of a surprise for what I thought was an American company.

[@jaredforsythe5432]

Nice review! A few things of note as a woodworking hobbyist: your friends' table with the 'not smooth' wood on wood connections, have you tried a coat or two of paste wax? then on the large tray accessory that had a loose bottom, conventionally drawer and tray bottoms made out of solid wood need adequate room in the dados for expansion and contraction so that's likely intentional.

[@jaredforsythe5432]

A little paste wax on the metal to metal connections can help them slide smoother too!

[@ordinarystrawstraw555]

I don't think I would ever buy a "gaming table" I could build one for way way cheaper. Also it's 90% just a table lol. So you are really paying a lot for raised sides, cup holders and a few other random small things. Great review. Love these accessories reviews. Especially one on very expensive items like this. It can save people a lot of money

[@igor3618]

I would only buy one if I was going to make a gaming room, and I definitely don't make enough money for that

[@naturesfinest2408]

Agree but dont. To make my own i need tools, space and knowledge. At the end of the day it would be "cheaper" for me to buy one than to go through the trouble of buying all the tools, living in a place to store and use those tools. And learning how to make it. Learning being the only part i could do almost where ever, space not as needed. That being said. If i am paying 3000 for a table i would go for one of the other ones ive seen. With lights and other things to make playing more convenient and an experience. 3000? It better cone with electricity to run through and plug in chargers, led lights for the sides, under, and out side the table. Customizable lights. I saw a self made one with a screen beneath the table to use as a map. That one would be the best. This specific table is definitely not worth it. One big thing is the cracks filled in with epoxy, ugly and definitely not for 3000. The side things are also way too much money. Wrymwood blows this out of the water for around the same price. I agree, though, if you can make your own, make your own. You can customize it to your needs and wants.

[@LordCyler]

My time is worth more than it would cost me to make one.

[@ordinarystrawstraw555]

@@LordCyler then you are a slow builder lol

[@LordCyler]

@@ordinarystrawstraw555 Or my time is just worth more than yours

[@igelkott255]

One thing I haven't heard anyone talk about in table reviews is because the accessories don't lock onto the rail, it seems to me if they're bumped you could end up with a spill. For example, suppose you're sitting at the table and you stand up and accidently bump the cup holder. Does it come loose and spill the drink all over? I've seen other tables that have a latching mechanism that seem like they'd be less prone to spillage. Oh, another common example would be dropping a game piece, you lean over to pick it up off the floor and then you're head bumps the accessory on the way back up. Anyway, thanks for the great review!

[@Shelfside]

Good question. They are actually really secure, so I didn't have any worries about bumping drinks side to side. BUUUT, I am still concerned about the bottom coming loose and that causing spills. Head concerns are definitely valid for the side table! -Ashton

[@billc8729]

Good review and I like pointing out the quality differences. The high quality board game tables like geek n son just last way longer, look better, and the vault is more utilitarian. When I ordered a board game table from the now defunct geek chic I got one of the largest available for twilight imperium. It ended up being 7’x4’ vault dimensions. It also was marginally more expensive. When paying over 5 grand another 300-400 for the larger size was worth it. I checked out geek n son’s website and they are similar offering a 4’x6’ for marginally more so that would be the way to go if buying yourself.

[@imbiginjapan2000]

I put this much into a Geek Chic table which I never received because they went belly up before we got our table. Fortunately my credit card company ponied up the refund. Ended up with a Carolina Game Tables. The first one had been I suspect hastily refinished by the delivery company which likely damaged it and the finish was trash. It bubbled and cracked in multiple places after a couple months. After voicing my concerns the company sent me a brand new table. While I could have done without the multiple trials I am pretty happy with what I got. It's our primary dining table but with enough room to keep a game set up inside it. The one big downside is it still uses the two piece topper. I Will add that CGT was superlative once I got back to them to report the finish problems. No arguments and personal response from the owners. 2 months and we had a new table which has held up for years now.

[@jimmyschwartz6186]

That's awesome, I'll definitely look up Carolina Game Tables, sounds like a great company to do business with!

[@imbiginjapan2000]

@@jimmyschwartz6186 Great, I'd say from a construction standpoint they are solid as heck compared to some of the other options out there, but at the expense of modularity. They are IMO the table option most directed at the mixed-use household who will frequently use it for everyday stuff other than board gaming. If you're looking for accessories like those highlighted in the video they don't offer anything other than fixed-position cupholders. The other 'odd' design point is that the short sides are very deep before they reach the well, meant to hold papers and books and stuff. I didn't think I'd like this but it turns out to be a good idea in actual use because you can keep reference materials and stuff out of the shared play area but easily on hand... but if someone is on the shorter side they may struggle to reach the well.

[@fa113nh3r0yt]

I looked at this and thought you were reviewing one of Wyrmwood's Modular Gaming Tables.

[@silvernomiko7617]

I think a lot of people ran with Wyrmwood's magnetic system.

[@fafum1272]

I bought a larger table a few years ago to make sure I had room for the bigger games and wargaming. I thought, foolishly, that maybe having the ability to leave games out underneath I'd play them more often. Not the case. Sadly without having a dedicated gaming room and group, it just becomes a surface to dump stuff on, which means dings and dents. Having cats means scratches on the surface. Takes up a lot of room. I wish I just got standard table size like this or saved the money and stuck with my old dining room table. I don't mean to doodoo on game tables, I do like mine despite what I just said. I suppose just to point out the obvious and make sure you really "need" and can accommodate one.

[@kuriakos]

I suspect the bottom of the component tray was slightly loose to account for expansion and contraction

[@volatilesky]

Yeah that's standard construction for cabinets, if that thin backed piece was glued in, there's a good chance it would eventually crack due to expansion and contraction, and good luck fixing that.

[@LastNameTom]

Cool, but looks too small for some of the bigger games. I'd hate to buy a $3,000 table only to find out I can't use it for all games.

[@SteveLEKORodrigue]

But, you must admit this table will fit most 4-5 player games. Obviously, there will always be a game that won't fit the biggest table. 😁

[@LastNameTom]

@@SteveLEKORodrigue you obviously haven't played Uno.

[@SteveLEKORodrigue]

@@LastNameTom : mega Uno tournament requires a gymnasium.

[@aBoogivogi]

We have a guy locally that mainly builds stairs. The equipment he uses is pretty much the same as what you need for large furniture so he also does a lot of tables. I'm pretty sure he could build this table for for less than 3000 grand. Also all the accessories you can pretty much make yourself using hand tools. You just need to find an aluminium profile that fit's inside the rail. I'm guessing that the rail itself is not custom built but an off the shelf component so it should be pretty easy.

[@Boxitron]

Anyone could build this table for less than three grand if you have the tools, but you need to buy the tools, pay for labor, pay for the design, pay for the wood, etc. $3000 for this table and accessories in the long run isn't that terrible, as it is only a bit more than a typical dining room table, with way more features.

[@seanhollowood1151]

Pretty sure you are wrong about that, espescially the first table. If you work in any trade you know the setup and design takes almost as long as the build itself. Also wanna point out that the price of furniture grade lumber is not the same as home depot prices. Nice clear oak is probably around 8$ a bf, do the math and add 50% because you can't get every length everytime. Things like the legs are even more expensive. Wanna also not that you are paying for their expertise and time. Not just the actual labor, as well their shop space, all the tools they have and so on and so forth

[@RiflemanTV]

I've seen plenty of "trust me bro, I totally know what I'm doing" DIY tables. I'd rather pay for a professional.

[@draheim90]

Well, 3000 grand is $3,000,000 so I sure hope he could build it more cheaply than that.

[@michaellathrop6285]

If you put a little paste wax on the wood on wood accessories I bet it would slide a lot better

[@thereal4579]

i built my 4x5ft game table with a 3 piece topper for 300$, solid wood. My minor issue was the topper has a slight slight warp but if i ever want to fix it i could just build another topper. but its a minor issue for me.

[@firechickenreviews]

Great review video :) Only quick noticeable thing you didn't discuss thoughts on having a table leg with USB charger. I personally opted out and was stoked when I reviewed the table to have the wireless charger which is hands down both my spouse and I favorite accessory. I am excited to do a follow up review when i get a chance as I bought it before planning to have a kid and have for the past year had a a young baby eat at the table daily. So far its been holding up strong but my little one is determined to put the table through the max stress test haha.

[@Shelfside]

Cheers! I originally had some thoughts on the USB charger, but then this charger is a prototype that isn't a good reflection of what people could expect now, so didn't want to delve much into that! Wireless charger sounds great :D The table is super durable, you'll be fine for your kid! Excited to be using the megan for a while -Ashton

[@myhandle527]

What's the thoughts on the mgt from wyrmwood?

[@gislo]

Pretty impressive review, very knowledgable!

[@Shelfside]

cheers, more table stuff hopefuly coming!

[@jessicaalvis7063]

Great review :) how deep is the game cellar with the felt insert in?

[@justacynic]

Wish I had paid more for a Geeknson than the Game Theory table I ended up with.

[@Broockle]

oh I thought that was MatPat related at first 😆 These tables look kinda deec tho.

[@44zeliow]

I bought a pool table that doubles as a dining table, it can comfortably fit 6 player TI4. It cost me € 2000 new here in The Netherlands.

[@naturesfinest2408]

Do you have a link?

[@44zeliow]

@@naturesfinest2408 vandenbroekbiljarts pool-table-lexor-dinner-brushed-gray. I cant post a link apearantly but if you search for that it will pop up. I have this one, but there are way cheaper ones if you dont care about the stone underlayer.

[@44zeliow]

vandenbroekbiljarts pool-table-lexor-dinner-brushed-gray. I cant post a link but search for this and it will pop up. I have that one but there are way cheaper ones if you dont care about the stone underlayer

[@zenster1097]

You should've reviewed the topper holder. That must be a must.

[@danielheble8800]

I may have miss it in the video(sorry) but do you like the maroon table mat on your old table or do you like the light blue color better

[@shortydancer]

3000 ouch. That’s almost half of what I’ve spent on boardgames

[@onejdc]

As a woodworker, I fully appreciate the time, design, and work that went into making this table. Having said that, the prices on the accessories is just gouging. The 'side table at $72.45 for a piece of wood (or several glued together) with beveled edges is ridiculous. It's what? 12"x18"? or smaller? Yyyyyeeeeah that's dumb.

[@mattbrady2697]

Great table, but when he said that the lip being 2.75 inches was tougher on their bodies I lost it lol

[@shortydancer]

Can I buy your old board game table? Lol. I’m serious by the way. I’m in LA but moving to SD soon.

[@Gorgrigar]

For wood on wood friction, you can use some waxing! :)

[@andrewdreasler428]

Yup, and decent paraffin wax is easy to find, either in a craft store (sold for candlemaking) or in a hardware store (sold as a screw lubricant). Judicious use of a hair drier helps the wax sink into unvarnished wood.

[@tomlajeunesse8622]

I feel like this table is pretty small for 3000, it’s really nice though

[@AmigaFanatic1980]

I love my Megan table, but yes trying to fit the nuts was difficult, i’m not looking forward to taking it apart to move it

[@dumas8112]

I found a simple position that made threading and hand tightening the lower bolt much easier. I placed the palm of my hand on the inside bottom of the table frame and used my thumb and index finger to place the nut. The bolt is actually opposite the back of your hand so you are threading the nut onto bolt in a much different hand position than usual, but this makes it so the leg is not in the way. I hope that makes sense.

[@AmigaFanatic1980]

@@dumas8112 I think it does, thanks for the tip.

[@shortydancer]

Dude I love these videos.

[@Josh-hz8vz]

Awesome review! I need someone to do a review like this of the Band Pass board game table, but so far haven’t found any. I can’t consider this one because I definitely would want to use as a dining table and water spill,crumbs getting in the topper would drive me nuts. Also those accessories are pretty bad.

[@imbiginjapan2000]

That design looks cool, but man... almost 7 grand for the base size once you add the dining top... better be amazing.

[@xczechr]

Just use a tablecloth.

[@Josh-hz8vz]

@@xczechr spending $3k on a solid wood table to throw a table cloth over it is just a waste. The whole purchase is frivolous to begin with but even more silly if you’re going to throw a sheet on it.

[@jamesmcclain5297]

anyone know what type of aluminum extrusion that is? wana add it to my table....

[@anamarieanderson]

I am trying to find something similar, the closest thing I found is aluminum floating shelf bracket system

[@audhen1]

it's from german manufacturer HÄFELE rail sku: 81420312 hanger sku: 81421922

[@audhen1]

@@anamarieanderson it's from german manufacturer HÄFELE rail sku: 81420312 hanger sku: 81421922

[@VGInterviews]

Not really a fan The biggest point I can give it is that it does look sturdy which is a sign of good materials and joinery knowledge, kudos to the designers on that front Something I really hate about these tables are the topper lids, whether it is 2 or 6 pieces I hate how you have to move everything and have a bunch of random wood in the corner of your room while you play, the bottom plywood being one single piece is good for flatness but the fact that it is just supported in 1 direction worries me for the future Personally not a fan of that color since to me it looks like you are playing on a picnic table but that is totally subjective and there are other colors (the 6 topper design doesn't help that) For me the rail is very distracting specially in that color and similar to having the lids on a random corner while you play you also have all the accessories either laying around or needing to always have them on the rails even if you don't need just so they don't occupy gaming space, the duchess' integrated system is so much better and slick in my opinion And WOW are those mediocre accesories expensive, over 70 bucks for an extra table that is just a small plank with no other features? 7 of those slabs are worth the same as a full duchess table lol Again, structurewise the table is great.... everything else fell flat for me

[@XxfieryfirexX]

Dream table. Could you guys review ark nova if it's not already planned

[@AlparslanKursadKagan]

i would use the cup holder more as a snack holder

[@davidrobertson1595]

I was thinking maybe I could swing this but around a 1000 dollars for shipping to the US so that’s a no. Definitely need to stay domestic for a product like this.

[@ryandude3]

Yeah, I just saw that shipping cost too, which immediately crushed my hope to get this.

[@joshuablake314]

So they ripped off wyrmwood?

[@mooseymoose]

Poorly

[@ScytheNoire]

Few too many production flaws and half-assery to get my money. Nice wood, but they don't seem to be as selective to get good wood as some others. Their accessory designs also seem to be be half-assed and not truly tested or properly designed. It's a decent table, but not worth the price, especially for the small size. Games keep getting bigger.

[@pfefferle74]

I don't want to sound smug, but if my 3000€ board gaming table had had an epoxy patch in it, I would have sent it back. For that much money you can expect flawless wood.

[@ryanbratley6199]

The filling of those cracks and imperfections is exceptionally sloppy - it can work with darker woods and for smaller imperfections but that large crack in particular you would expect to be graded out rather than just filled. The fact that they were happy to send this out on a table which was intended to be reviewed makes you wonder if normal, paying customers would potentially be sent even worse. The topper system is visually nice, but I have concerns that there would be serious waterproofing issues along the long edges since there's no gasketed join there. The accessory rail is frankly just ugly, and the accessories are visually way too thick - especially that mug holder - and there's a lack of consistent visual style to them.

[@jeremymurdock1285]

Why don't board game and DnD game tables have enough room for a piece of paper or notebook? I can't play DnD on a table like this without room for my character sheet!

[@dragonzord6615]

It really looks like it has a pair of USB chargers in the legs of the table, which would be pretty cool.

[@imilegofreak]

Shelfside? More like Tableside xD

[@piesandhiking4943]

I feel this channel should be renamed Tableside

[@panik28]

Honestly, between the 500$ Jester and this one, I would pick the Jester. The quality of life improvements are not worth 2500$ extra to me.

[@MrScrawnjuan]

Those accessories are super expensive for cup holders. How does it compare to the table you built yourselves? Way too expensive for the size.

[@mangoman1073]

Its the color that i dislike the most. Its like early 2000s kitchen cabinet color

[@ninjasownpirates]

I've never been able to wrap my head around why people love oak so much. That's exactly the vibe I get from it.

[@mooseymoose]

@@ninjasownpirates Check out Stickley furniture to understand what oak is all about….this table is garbage.

[@AustinLindstrom]

Maybe turn your heat up if you need a knit cap, a fleece, and a jacket on indoors?

[@Shelfside]

haha. So that room has TERRIBLE insultation and just wouldn't make sense to heat. Cheers! -Ashton

[@bartekpilson]

Damn bro this table on thumbnail looks more like 30$

[@josda1000]

Wish i was a rich man, i'd buy it in a heartbeat. Maybe i can sell all my old CDs from the 90s...

[@logiclust]

wouldn't pay $300

[@kasbakgaming]

A fair review, but yeah, probably not quite worth what they're charging. Looks like you're mostly paying a premium for the design with the aluminum track and accessories. If you've got no ability or interested in building your own table, then maybe it would be worth it to you, but speaking as someone who has a shop and does make furniture, it's way over priced and limited compared to what I can make myself.

[@worm1618]

Greennson MO seems to be: "hope the customer forgets they ever sent an email regarding quality issues with the table." One month after I sent an email, I still didn't receive anything back. Seems to be a common refrain when dealing with this company.

[@erupendragon7376]

Bloody hell 3K! I built a 6x4 board game table for 1200 that’s including a track saw and a miter saw $850 for both. The rest was materials and fact felt

[@argelfraster2]

So tldr, no it's not. For 3k you could make 4 tables, set them on fire, and still have enough to make a 5th. Especially since, based on the measurements provided, 4 people could only use it if the game they are playing doesn't take up much space.

[@AnthonyKopah]

Wyrmwood tables make both of those look like shit. 😂

[@dingo4ever]

It's true, love my MGT,

[@morpheus587]

Lol... that's $100 in wood...

[@stoyantenchev9135]

1st. :D Nice table, a bit pricey tho!

[@Shelfside]

Haha, thanks! cheers -Ashton

[@SuperPlastered]

$3000.00 for a table that is not all that special. This video proved to me that tables are too expensive for what they are.

[@koppfrosch7439]

this table is way to expensive. even a third would be expensive.

[@chancemcclendon3906]

every time I see a boardgame table that isn't wyrmwood I'm just reminded how far behind the industry is. In price, features, accessories, fit and finish. wyrmwood just wins so easily.

[@willytyrion6010]

10k minimum table LOL

[@Jon-G]

19:57 all you need to know. Another commercial pretending to be a review.

[@Acriwix]

@Jon G but isn't that how reviews work a lot of the time anyway? 😅 As in for example game reviewers get sent the product rather than paying for it themselves (unless you're a smaller/independent reviewer). Doesn't make it any less a valid review! Unless it clearly is biased/paid to say exactly what the company wants, which doesn't look to be the case here! Here, you hear both pros AND cons, and it has been in use for 4 months, to actually get a feeling for the product. Though I guess you could also argue ANY review is a commercial (even the ones where reviewer used their own money).

[@edackley8595]

3K for that....uhmmmm, NOPE.

[@BrotherMingGames]

YOU'RE SIX FOOT???

[@Shelfside]

hehe, Daniel is taller -Ashton

[@darillfow]

$3000 is insane for a table, what's more crazier is some people are paying that, have they lost their minds?! Stop supporting crooked business. You all should know better than that.

[@markhill3858]

gimmie a break .. you can get an antique table for less lol

[@donaldwirtz4731]

It's kinda boring. But nice

[@GotNoCharm]

You got ripped off bro. Should have bought a Wyrmwood table with better accessories.

[@dragonlance6027]

Yeah, thats a horrible place for card holders.

[@Unclebillyr]

looks like a wormwood wannabe

[@adesintra100]

this is basically a copy of the wyrmwood gaming table. you should not advertise this product....

[@OlivieroBrandenburg]

Wyrmwood ripoff table