Reviewing Finnair's New Non-Reclining Business Class Seat!

Unveiled in early 2022, Finnair’s flagship AirLounge business class seat onboard its widebody Airbus jets is a unique offering across the aviation industry. Indeed, its perhaps the only long-haul business class product on the market that doesn’t recline! Designed in collaboration with Collins Aerospace, the seat’s lack of reclining ability is most often what you’ll read first in any review of the product. This eyebrow-raising feature is one of a few noteworthy things you’ll experience with Finnair’s new signature premium product.
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[@magnustan841]

Very interesting product. No recline function, means much fewer moving parts and reduced weight and fuel burn. Let’s see if other airlines instal similar style seats as part of their sustainability programmes. Also, even a toddler can differentiate a “2” from a “9”, so that was definitely a lame attempt at getting a last minute upgrade… 😂

[@JoaoPessoa86]

As someone who's had to deal with broken business seats more often than I'd care to mention: the fewer moving parts the better

[@ziplock8316]

He mentioned the raised support is motorised. I find that very unnecessary to simply bridge the gap between the seat and the ottoman. Rather a mechanically driven cushion would have been really clever. Plus, the lack armrest is absolute stupidity.

[@Pilot-2020]

As a finn myself and thus have flown on this airline I must say that I love it! While not being an exclusive airline like Emirates and Qatar Airways it still offers better service than most other medium-cost airlines.

[@thomasleerriem6872]

I'm a business class traveller, but would avoid this kind of hyped seats. I find myself using the reclining seat mostly in a half bed/half seat setting, ideal for watching movies. The motorized side controls United offers, are perfect for this. I can't imagine enjoying Finnair's business seats.

[@davidefinland6886]

Being half Italian and half Finnish: Finns takes great proud in Finnair. I have met many Finnair employees, and they speak in great terms of the company. On the contrary, Italians were continuously bashing Alitalia and I have met several Alitalia employees engaging in less than ethical behavior. Don't know about ITA. I guess that the employees are a great part of what makes a company great. For Finnair, I know that they will usually go above and beyond in order to make you feel welcome. Thank you Finnair!

[@toms5996]

As a Finn I hope you get pride in all Italian air companies. For us Finns - we take great pride in whatever we do. And if we do anything poorly - we want to know. Italy is such a beautiful country and a powerhouse in the European Union - why wouldn't you put effort to your Flight industry. (My parents who recently visited Rome from Helsinki were satisfied😄)

[@PakaBubi]

Good try from the other fella tryna taking your seat lol. Happened to me as well several times

[@JDFloyd]

Definitely an attempted “self-upgrade”. I have seen it at least 5-times in the past 10-years, and twice it was my seat they were attempting to “self-upgrade” to.

[@sarileena4838]

I flew with new Finnair Business Class and loved it! 👍🏻

[@CalifTom-p1i]

I just concluded a business class trip from LAX to Helsinki. This non reclining seat was very uncomfortable and the 3 throw pillows they include do not help. Granted...I have back issues and getting comfortable was a priority. On the way back, I flew British Air that had a more traditional design and was much more comfortable. The Finnair version cocks you off to a right angle so your legs and feet have the space to stretch out and lay down. The flight attendants were very good and the food was fine. I also love the 3 camera views of the outside included in the entertainment package. From the reviews I read online, I thought this Finnair seat version was going to be a break through. Nope...the curvature design of the back is difficult to get comfortable in even sitting up. Think of a bench front seat in a sixties automobile vs. the bucket seats they have today. The Finnair flight from Helsinki to Budapest was worse...a very old aircraft that revealed how many loose bolts there were when it landed in Budapest. I am done with Finnair.

[@Mia_Louiise]

Flying on a Qantas ticket with Finnair Sydney to Bangkok later in the year & looking forward to it.

[@niccolosun3416]

How did you find it? Flying the same leg in December with Finnair

[@charlesmoss8119]

I think the BA new seat (I guess shared with other airlines) is the best at present - very comfortable - you can close your ‘door’ so feel enclosed and angled for a great view out of the window for us sky gazers

[@CalifTom-p1i]

YEP...I flew British Air from London to LAX yesterday. Love that closing sliding door. However, they did not have the 3 camera views of the Finnair entertainment system which I gladly let go of for the more comfortable seat.

[@atrampabroad8318]

I suspect that part of the reason Finnair went with this non-reclining seat is that, at least before the pandemic (when they were planning/designing this product), the bulk of their long-haul flying was overnight flights. A big part of their business was Asia, and those flights are generally overnight in both directions, so the lack of recline for daytime lounging is less important. I would be surprised to see a carrier that does most flying over the Atlantic (where generally only eastbound flights are overnight) choose this seat.

[@toms5996]

As a Finn, I hope any reviewer gave feedback to Finnair directly. Finnair takes all feedback very seriously.

[@sainnt]

It should be noted that airlines don't lock the 787 window shades at night, as that would be absolutely pointless. They usually lock the shades on long daytime flights to allow passengers to sleep. As someone who enjoys looking out of the window inflight, I definitely don't like that feature when I have no control of it.

[@LongHaulbySimpleFlying]

This can't be said of all airlines, as some crews lock windows at night in advance of sunrise.

[@sainnt]

@@LongHaulbySimpleFlying I can see that, but even then that won't happen throughout the night flight. Also, even on aircraft with normal shades, the crew would sometimes ask all passengers to close the shades, and most passengers comply.

[@thethirdman225]

I've got a bad back and that didn't look too comfortable to me. I need the lumbar support. The extra shoulder width would be welcome but I'm not convinced. I'd prefer one that can be a Z seat too.

[@JoaoPessoa86]

100% an attempted self upgrade

[@ptfsrps6235]

definetely

[@IngoJot]

Nice review. Regarding cabin temperature at night (as shown at 11:15) I made the same experience during my HEL-HND flight last november. But the seats and the crew are great.

[@well-blazeredman6187]

Give me some blueberry juice, neat glassware and sailor-suited stewardesses manning the trolleys and I'll be happy.

[@verttikoo2052]

I took the flight 666 to HEL, but I really want to fly from SIN to HEL 🎉🤭 I love this seat ❤

[@yatinawaal6682]

Hi, Any updates on RIA, the upcoming new airline from Saudi Arabia?

[@heidirabenau511]

The only update I am aware of is that Tony Douglas left the post of CEO at the carrier.

[@yatinawaal6682]

@heidirabenau511 Ya there's been nothing after that news. Waiting for any updates

[@letlhogonolosekoto]

What's the name of the Song used in the 5:33

[@ptfsrps6235]

HOW IS THAT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE CONFUSING 9 FOR 2

[@MH-gh]

@ 3:55 Yes definately a “Self Upgrade”🤦🏻‍♂️❗️

[@MH-gh]

LoL didn’t know u did flight reviews (1st one I’ve seen for you) Great video though covering an interesting product😊

[@markhalliwell1489]

Finnair is Oneworld, could have used Qantas British Airways or Qatar lounges

[@ptfsrps6235]

yeah attempted self upgrade

[@paulc4302]

I think its a gamble.

[@ygt-cd3mg]

Non-reclining business class seat is just another way to cut cost. 1 recline seats are a lot more expensive than non-reclining ones; 2 recliner needs a lot of mechanical work it adds weight to the aircraft reduces cargo weight capacity or fuel efficiency.

[@ThePolaroid669]

Strange pronunciation of Changi and Kuala Lumpur

[@andyjames344]

Just flew on it, horrible hard, no in between it’s either sit up or lay down in full, gave me terrible back ache will never fly Finnair biz class again sadly

[@cabottaxi]

Bolt upright for 14 hours can't be that comfortable. We are all different sizes and shapes. Looks like sitting in a church pew.

[@ptfsrps6235]

confusing 9 for 2

[@ptfsrps6235]

that is so sus

[@dewanarayanad]

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[@Luke_Go]

I would appreciate it, if you were to blur out people's faces

[@thomas-xj1hs]

Unfortunately not a balanced review as its a freebie, sposored and paid for by finnair. WHAT'S THE POINT OF THAT??

[@UKabroad1967]

What a load of BS - y’all got paid by Finnair to review this so obviously will only say good things regardless. So let’s break down the FACTS: - please can you explain why a 14 hour flight has the EXACT same meal structure and food quantity as a SIX hour flight? The default Finnair J menu is One main meal with choice + one pre-arrival breakfast with ZERO choice and NO proper hot snack menu. Please can the brilliant staff and Simpleflying explain why the catering budget for a 14h flight is exactly the same as a 6h flight? We all know this is all pure cost cutting. Finnair can’t be bothered to spend a dime on more catering on longer flights. - please can you point out to ANY other airline flying 14 hours in business class that does NOT offer a choice for the second meal? Yeah you may be full from frozen processed quiche junk food but at the end of the day you got ripped off and served cheap food in business class. - No hot snack menu - for a 14 hour flight cold stale sandwiches are NOT acceptable in J as the only proper snack option . No matter how u want to spin it. So please open your eyes and start giving more open and honest reviews. Finnair business class food is premium economy at best, just putting cheap food in better plates like putting lipstick on a pig.

[@tomatotrain6692]

Remeber this was a night time flight where you are supposed to sleep for 6 to 9 hours

[@UKabroad1967]

@@tomatotrain6692 equally likely please remember they also serve this menu on a DAY flight (i.e. the return flights from BKK to HEL for instance). This is a 14h flight at the end of the day not every one will be on the same sleeping schedule etc. There is really no excuse other than the fact it is pure cost cutting. Of course the Finnair spokesperson will tell you this is all for sustainability reasons blablabla (aka in other words maximising the CEOs bonus pot)

[@Tuukkohakee]

How about you get your facts right? The normal finnair J class meal now offers and used to offer multiple options for each meal.

[@UKabroad1967]

@@Tuukkohakee how about you get your reading right? I clearly mentioned above the zero choice meal relates to the second meal only. Maybe you are fine to keep flying Finnair and getting ripped off paying 2-4k Euros and served frozen pies, let others vote with their wallet.

[@wga4139]

@@UKabroad1967 the video stated that the abrupt restriction of russian, belarusian and ukrainian airspace meant a couple of hours longer flight between HEL-SIN. Finnair has also a route between helsinki and tokyo and the same principle applies here. The cost-cutting was inevitable and this is finnair's way of coping with it. Why don't you give feedback to Finnair and not on KZbin because they can give better answers than random youtube users, including me :D

[@johniii8147]

Not impressed.

[@uuee6666]

Terrible review lol

[@TerryChimes123]

Can you lie totally flat ?