Reviewing Hoyt Formula Xi Riser & Formula Velos Limbs | Unboxing, Setup & Tuning

[@retunedas3390]

Like your authentic and professional explinations about all the setup, behaviour and feedback matters! Learn a lot from your videos! Thank you and stay safe!

[@hansomatic6830]

Mr. Kaminski, I find myself relying more and more on your channel for helpful information. Thank you for the detail. You think and communicate like an engineer, which resonates with subscribers like me. It is rare that I take the time to log-in and click the 'like' button but I try to do it for all of your videos. Here's to your continued success.

[@charlesaustin7353]

Excellent analysis of the difference between ilf and formula. Makes good sense. Thanks for that.

[@blackspeed69007]

Yes! Have been waiting for this one!!!

[@NPC-fl3gq]

Dude, you need to do some collabs to get your subs up. I can't believe I'm saying this again but you're still criminally under-subbed. Thanks again for the great content. I appreciate you're experience and advice.

[@ryanbon]

Great review as always... Never left with any questions by the time I get to the end of the video. Great job!

[@DustinLeroy]

more of this! this is awesome! love your review and shooting videos

[@williamwatson9781]

Finally working on my own bow, Mostly getting into it after I did an archery class in college, tho we didnt have any professional gear, we had some bare naked untuned recurves. No ad ons, no nocking points, 50 meters. Was hard but really fun, probably gonna do a minimalistic build on my bow as well as it was enjoyable

[@robert43g]

Would have never thought about the washer trick

[@archerybob1]

I’m just here for the party atmosphere

[@Robert-bv4vm]

Waited for this one for a while.

[@txd5904]

Jake this video is awesome!

[@skiessilver7933]

Jack you can add a little bit of draw weight by adding same amount of washers in the limb rocker pocket system. I do that in just for fun. But i don't now if it really works perfectly.

[@alexm2833]

Great content! Not sure about the pink though...yishh.

[@Spazmolitik]

Question about bare shafts 20:26 and 20:45 and 20:59 Why there is no "tape" on place where fletches should be to compensate weight of feathers? I mean FOC (front of center) will be different for your bare shaft in compare with your fletched arrow. E.g. fletched arrow has 10% FOC, and same bare shaft, without feathers "compensator weight" will have (assume) ~ 12% FOC. I just wonder, because in Ukraine EVERY archer has tape on bare shaft for compensating weight(keep same FOC), but when I'm looking on some USA/other archers they use "naked" bare shafts some times. What is the trick?

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

It’s not worth the time, it doesn’t make that much of a difference. My “final” best tune I don’t use bareshafts at all. I only look at grouping and make adjustments.

[@dpogle]

Do you think the Formula Xi will be updated any time soon?

[@onpoint99]

i always looked up to you and even copied your form. thank you. from PHilippines

[@christrolan8185]

Looking forward to seeing the 79😄

[@christrolan8185]

Ment 70

[@garyhiggins4315]

Jake, why don't you suggest to Hoyt that they increase the the amount of tensioning you can do to instead of using the washers? Or just putting in some dedicated washers to aid the tuning?

[@DevbratDalal]

Hi jake, Nice video very informative. Can you please tell me? How much does it cost to buy hoyt formula x1 riser including all needed accessories for the Olympics...

[@garyhiggins6718]

Hi Jake, I think I might have caught up with your videos, and I think they are great, keep up the good work! What I would love to see you do is a comparison video of equipment and tuning between now and 40 years ago! Perhaps in collaboration with Pace or Mackinney? Any chance?

[@fahlvfaust677]

Jake..actually, what happened to Finnish archer his velos limb was broken? I think this 1st time happened to Olympic archer's equipment failure..what we know, velos one of best limb from hoyt..does that limb too expose to heat for a long times before he used it...

[@akioutsunomiya4343]

how many pound do you use on this bow the alimbs????

[@jassonkhoo1223]

can ya do a review of the topoint unison aswell? its a cheap mid level bow, but it is getting a massive amount of praise for its money

[@dracus6877]

Jake, is it ok to drop your limb bolt two full turns down?

[@abcdefgh8530]

Hi Jake I am suffering from supraspinatus tendonosis in my draw arm from the past 8 months. Have been doing regular physical therapy and strengthening work and even got a cortisone shot. Nothing seems to help me out. Dur to this I have missed on 2 major National tournaments and international trials. Any suggestions? It would be of great help. Thank you

[@garyhiggins4315]

Hi Jake, when you ask us to comment on your form, it feels a little weird to me, with the level of my experience, commenting on the form of someone with the level of your experience, but if you feel that it would not be impertinent, will do! I thoroughly enjoy your videos, I think the best that can be said about them is that they take away the fear of trying something different, and impart knowledge in away that is simple and clear! Personally, I would not think of that sculpturally beautiful, sporting weapon as something for beginners to use, and putting 20 lbs limbs on her would be like putting the wheels of a beaten up old VW Beetle on a Ferrari Spyder!!! I know that limbs may come and limbs may go, but risers last forever, but really! There are limits! I personally think it a it of a let down that this top of the line Hoyt does Not come as standard with a wooden grip? I should think that in tribute to another great American shooting weapon, the grip should be made of curly maple? But that's just me! BTW, I am thoroughly enjoying your books, keep doing your video sessions, they are important to the Archery Community, and now I will stop brmding your ear!

[@b4bluey]

Damn !! You`re Good , >> Thank You

[@holgerheinrich2992]

Hi Jake! I've been struggeling with making my own grip over the past years every now an then, and because i am lefty there is not much to go to get a "just different" grip. Do you produce your grip mirrored for Winners risers?

[@InFerrumVeritas]

You can order a lefty version from RCore

[@turdboman]

How many channels do you get on that thing ??

[@Robert-bv4vm]

Are going to compare across companys?

[@christianrobertsson2620]

What is your opinion between the limbs smoothness? If you have the Mxt-10 vs Velos? Very interesting channel! 🙏😊

[@spaghettibadger647]

Just started using your low pressure point rcore grip on my exceed (red grip on the slate grey exceed looks great) Noticed it's cleaned up a few issues and highlighted a few more that I'm now working on. The only negative is that the anti-slip stuff is SUPER prominent and I had to take some fine sand paper to it to make it not rip my hand to pieces

[@popcorngenerator1925]

What material? I recently got a plastic R core grip and the anti grip feels amazing.

[@spaghettibadger647]

@@popcorngenerator1925plastic... but it was cutting into my hands after about 120 arrows and as I routinely shoot over 180 a session it was leaving me in bits until I filed it down a bit

[@spaghettibadger647]

It may be I was just unlucky, but I did end up sanding it down a bit just to get rid of the harshness and it's now the best grip I've shot. I just need to remember how to shoot now

[@anthonyda]

Mine is being delivered tomorrow, I hope that I'll like it and won't regret picking the LPP vs the other model for Olympic recurve x)

[@spaghettibadger647]

@@anthonyda lpp is the one I'm using, it's super comfy

[@Schett94]

Off-topic but how does he have his long stab mounted without a v-bar bolt? Do some long stabs come with longer bolts so you can go through the v-bar?

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

I use a quick disconnect. Similar to an eyebolt

[@electoplater]

great channel

[@tom9571]

Any reason why they don't make a 27-inch version? I love my 27-inch formula riser...

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Profit and difficulty maintaining tolerances.

[@Poisonieer]

Hey so I've been giving my epik a shot vs my axt and it's odd cause my epik dosent feel nearly as responsive as my axt. (15" w/6oz x2 30" w/9oz no extension) I was wondering if there was a way to fix that.

[@Poisonieer]

42# long 47#atf

[@karlhagen960]

Maybe the washers created a disconnect between the limb bolt and limb changing vibration and feel. I use the Win&Win rubber washers and they reduce vibration and noise.

[@TracyPicabia]

That's exactly what I was thinking. They would act as very small dampers

[@archerry6457]

Got a link for these washers?

[@michaelhenschel4356]

Why don't you change BH for micro tuning? I find that when my arrows are slightly weak or stiff, changing BH by +- 1/8" can make the difference.

[@46luskbrady]

BH changes other parameters like nock height

[@michaelhenschel4356]

@@46luskbrady BH effects pre-load. Assuming that BH is set within the right range to achieve correct pre-load of the limbs, on the "micro-tune" level BH will interact with nock separation. You can tune an arrow to a given bow setup (limb poundage, BH, etc), but if you have an arrow, which you don't want to change (like Jake has), BH will have an influence on the tune. Ideally, you want the nock separate from the string when the arrow has just completed its first oscillation and is straight at that particular moment. The arrow oscillation frequency is primarily determined by the spine and point weight, the time the arrow needs from release to nock seperation is determined primarily by bow weight (energy stored in the limbs) and the location of nock separation can be adjusted within a small range by the BH. It's pretty complex.

[@46luskbrady]

@@michaelhenschel4356 you asked why he did it. I answered based on what he says in other videos. Weather he is right or wrong I do not know. What I do know is that he won 2 silver medals at the Olympics. That will do for me

[@amirhosseinadavoodi8063]

The best

[@grantmiller6570]

The cicadas are not an issue, don't worry 'bout it.

[@zacharypayne5213]

Admire hoyt continuing with the formula series. But, in saying that the benefits of ILF outweigh the formula

[@thong0128]

what are benefits of ILF vs vs Formula?

[@christiankarner3539]

@ILF - Many different brand’s to choose from. Pricepoint from very low to very high. Greetz

[@lavatun]

Ilf is simply more versatile.. More limb/riser combinations possible..

[@fabianmac-namara8371]

"not in California", what is that about?

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Everything in the states “may contain or did contain materials that are potentially known to cause cancer in the state of California”

[@archerry6457]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery so is it the OG nanny state? 😏 Libtards. Sounds like Brighton.

[@azzlaziz]

If you do want to sell the 27" Xceed off do tell :D

[@rolandwillems1]

No other bow for me than a Hoyt bow! USA!

[@christiankarner3539]

Limited thinking 🤔

[@ZephrusPrime]

Win&Win knows your location...😋

[@ddeboy002]

This stuff is just too expensive for the everyday shooter. It's interesting though.

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

I have a box sitting here from Sanlinda....

[@higorcobesa7288]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery can't wait to see your review from Sanlida. Using for 2 years now... I'll not say my thoughts about the bow 'cuz I REALLY wanna see if we feel the same hahaha

[@InFerrumVeritas]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery that I’m very interested in. I have some rather strong opinions on their limbs that I’ll keep to myself here (although they’re on Reddit if anyone is curious).

[@ddeboy002]

When u you do more than 3 sports equipment gets expensive. Bowling golf billiards archery and sugaring.

[@yannikessarios2103]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery Some say the Vaultage limbs are rebranded WNS FC 100...

[@electoplater]

they are not polished they are bead blasted

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

They still usually (in the past at least) hand buff to deburr and then bead blast with this new matte finish.

[@Markus__B]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery in Sjef´s factory tour video, they don´t seem to hand deburr and bead blast but tumble finish the risers.

[@mandibaum7375]

@@Markus__B tumble finish is as good for climbing equipment as for risers or rims, because there is no direction as blasting with any stuff, when the parts are solo in the tumbling drum.